What's your favorite Final Fantasy game?
Are you looking forward to XV?
V or VI.
No, I havent been able to get into a post-6 Final Fantasy besides somewhat enjoying XII.
IV
Yes I am, but I'm not getting my hopes too high.
Tactics and VII for mainline
Kinda, but the new demo fucking sucked.
>>334244638
VI and hell yes.
Couldn't enjoy a single FF in years otger than XII.
Just like him actually >>334244738
But i bothered following XV, it looked interesting. No regrets, shit may not play exactly like a Final Fantasy but every other aspect of this game screams the franchise's name.
>>334244638
V
Yes
ffxii
not really
>>334244638
>>334244972
Wicked
>>334244935
what
XII IZJS for comfy gameplay, Type-0 for some fast-paced action
Definitely looking forward for XV. Gameplay feels similar to Type-0 which I love, albeit much slower and requires more thinking than smashing buttons.
>>334244638
Warning: you need to be more creative when making these threads or mods are going to start deleting them because they're similar to generals.
My favorite is XI. My least favorite is XIV.
aah yes, it was back in 2003 when i still had the "going into games" machine to go into games with... let me tell you, those crystals make you see things and do things you can really later regret. also the townspeople are mad if you rape any of those dancers, however they will flirt with you being an inside-gamer. did you know that chocobos smell like dead leaves? dead leaves and bird urine. also I don't know how the fuck we didn't ever just die when those bomb things self destructed, the fetid pieces of their quickly rotting bulbous bodies splattering us with stinking gore.
>>334244935
wat
>>334244998
sense
VI
The series has been pretty much dead to me since X (and it was a huge part of my childhood starting with the first game in 1991), but XV does seem like an legitimate effort to make it up to the fans they've lost.
I'm not enthused about the characters but they're okay, and the setting and story premise have caught my interest. I'm mostly worried about the combat, since I don't have a PS4 yet and can't try the demo.
>>334244638
IX these days
Yes, I'm looking forward to playing.
>>334245128
>mods
>giving a fuck
lmao
>>334245243
pic related happens to XIV shill threads
>>334244638
II, IV. VI, and X were my personal favourites. I pretty much enjoyed everything inbetween. X-2 and XIII-2 most notably. I currently play XIV every fucking day.
Got the XV demo with my Type-0 pre-order. Seems purdygud, pretty stoked for the launch.
>>334245316
Shit taste.
>>334245363
If it werent for anything in the xiii series you wouldn't of bothered, anon.
I always get pissed on for that.
>>334245302
should tell yhem about the 10 billion "cozy" dark souls 3 threads that keep popping up
I haven't enjoyed any of the games since IX, and XV is not only the most intriguing title since then, it also comes out on my birthday, so I'm not sure what to think about that.
VI is a personal favourite of mine. It was one of the first I played in the series.
>>334245443
It might be because you like II.
>>334244638
VI
No, Final Fantasy just isn't a series for me. For some reason FFVI is the greatest thing ever to me, VII, IV and Tactics are good too but every other game i've played in the series felt somewhere between mediocre to bad
>>334245302
>2015
>>334245443
II is buggy as fuck. IV is okay. VI is overrated as is X. X-2 is cringe. XIII-2 is at least better than XIII but not by much. Type-0 was only worthwhile if you could play online. XV is shit.
>>334245561
hello nintoddler
>>334245619
>XV is shit
That's weird, it's not even out yet.
>>334245539
It was a very fuckin solid PS3 game.
I'm not saying the whole series was good, but -2 was pretty alright.
>>334245452
Shit always happens with new meme games.
>>334245569
XIV threads are deleted pretty often now.
>>334245668
You can't directly control anyone but the main character. It's shit and shouldn't even be called final fantasy.
>>334245728
>It's shit and shouldn't even be called final fantasy
Sane should go for XIII, XIV, XI, XII, and LR then.
>>334245728
>You can't directly control anyone but the main character.
>XV
wot
>>334245806
pretty much
>>334245848
He's gonna say gambits don't count.
>>334245806
I'm not dismissing XV yet myself, but to answer your comment, yes.
>>334245806
The MMOs generally get a free pass because there's at least someone controlling other party members. You could directly control everyone in your party in XII.
>>334245848
>>334245871
Gambits don't count unless you can switch directly to your other party members. If you can't do that then they're very simply assist characters instead of full-fledged members of your party.
Final Fantasy is a series about an adventuring party where everyone is important. If you demote characters to assist status they lose too much importance. They're basically just along for the ride. It's one of the biggest examples of how Final Fantasy has totally lost its mojo.
XII. No. It's without a doubt the worst demo I've played. Every single element was bad.
>>334245728
You can give them menu commands like in any other FF while Noctis plays with action RPG Gameplay, the entire point of it being called Active Cross Battle is because it's a cross between those two systems, Action RPG for Noctis while command menu inputs and strategy set ups for the other party members.
>>334246138
No it has nothing to do with everyone being important, you have literal skipable party members in older FF so it's never been about everyone being important
You give menu commands to your other party members while Noctis has action RPG combat, it melds both the story and gameplay.
>>334245640
I'd rather be a nintoddler than a faggot who waits 10years to play a game where you run around in a field with your boyfriends for 100 hours
>>334244638
I'm super excited. I loved the demo so much.
>>334246220
Which in turn makes Noctis the primary focus at all times, where in other Final Fantasy games your other members get equal amounts of attention.
It's like the people developing XV never played a final fantasy game before.
>>334246138
All your characters were just pawn pieces in turn-based games. They have as much involvement as the guys in FFXV, as you can command then. The only difference is you can only physically move around as one character which is also the care with every other FF.
Only weird thing is you game over in Noctis dies.
X
>>334246386
I think its more about each game doing something different, rather than forcing convention.
>>334246138
>>334246386
>it's not FF because I said so
>>334246374
>>334246401
>Noctis dies = game over
Not final fantasy.
>>334246446
You don't do something that drastically different after 14 games plus spin offs. It's lazy and a total fuck you to its predecessors.
XII, Tactics, and VIII
Hell yes. In many ways it looks like my dream game.
>>334246549
Nice counter argument.
>>334246561
>not Final Fantasy cuz I said so!
>>334246401
>The only difference is you can only physically move around as one character which is also the care with every other FF.
Walking on the map? That comparison makes as much sense as if I refuted this by pointing out you can move all your party members between rows in battle.
And the party travels together anyway. Some of the games even have your party follow you around instead of jumping into your pocket.
>>334246628
Final Fantasy has always been about change. It's SE's franchise, and they can do whatever the fuck they want with it.
Get the fuck over it you self-righteous fanboy.
>>334246561
Lets all do the same thing until we go out of business.
>>334246682
>you can move all your party members between rows in battle
HOLY SHIT WHAT DEEP INVOLVEMENT
>>334246386
And? It's like you don't know that every FF is different and that the entire point of AXB is that Noctis is using his unique weapon skills and abilities because he's the Prince while everyone else is his support in the story and that's reflected through the gameplay where they have different input method than Noctis does.
Gladio, Ignis, Prompto, Cor and the other members that join have menu inputs and a dedicated ATB bar to give them direct commands like in other FFs as well as AI strategy set ups and their own growth systems.
While Noctis has his Action RPG playstyle with direct action based inputs and combat making use of his full spectrum of combat abilities.
This melds the story and gameplay together.
>>334246138
You give your characters commands in FF. You do the same in XV.
Kill yourself.
>>334246561
Daily reminder for you "not muh FF" fags. Even the creator of FF thinks you're full of shit.
>>334246561
Yes it is, sorry autist
>>334246867
B-BUT IT'S NOT LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME SO IT'S NOT THE SAAAAAAAME
>>334246138
>Gambits don't count unless you can switch directly to your other party members
Why does it matter? You couldn't move around during battle during other FFs. You equivalent of moving rows is making them defend.
You still give them commands for specific things you want them to do.
You nostalgiafags are so retarded.
>>334244638
All of them have their good and bad qualities.
I feel like IV and XII were the most fun.
Yeah I am, not gonna get hype for it but the prospect of it probably having a better story over XIII makes me a little happy.
Summons are also my fetish.
>>334246630
Name one other Final Fantasy game in the main series that gives you a game over if the main character gets KO'd in combat.
>>334246706
So after 14+ games they now decide to be lazy and not allow you to play everyone in your party, and that's somehow a good change?
>>334246718
If you need something to blame for Square going out of business you don't have to look any further than XIV.
>>334246797
>It's like you don't know that every FF is different
Not THAT different.
>ATB introduced
Everyone got an ATB bar.
>Gambits introduced
Everyone got AI gambits.
>Switching mid-combat introduced
Everyone could switch in or out.
>Action combat introduced
You can only use it with one character. You only control the main character directly.
This is the main issue, and why it's not final fantasy.
>>334246845
But you can't control them directly.
>>334246867
Sounds like he's giving excuses as to why he's being lazy.
XI is my favorite. Second favorite is probably IX.
>>334247097
No one can be this oblivious to how hard they were BTFO, give it up BTFO-kun.
>>334247097
>Name one other Final Fantasy game in the main series that gives you a game over if the main character gets KO'd in combat.
LR
>So after 14+ games they now decide to be lazy and not allow you to play everyone in your party, and that's somehow a good change?
All you could do for other characters is give them commands during combat.
Gambits are the exact same thing.
>>334247049
>Why does it matter?
BECAUSE IT'S FINAL FANTASY
Everyone in your party matters. They're not simple assists. They're companions, comrades, friends, pals, BFFs with GFs.
You newfaggots need to lurk more and go back and actually play the other games, something the XV developers failed to do.
>>334247097
>You can only use it with one character. You only control the main character directly.
XIV reboot does that shit and an MMO has been the most final fantasy there has been in a while
>>334247232
lmao
>>334247232
So again you don't know anything about FF and hinge your definition of FF on a single specific thing that not every FF even follows.
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IT'S OUT
>>334247228
>LR
>main series
Not main series. X-2 isn't part of the main series, either.
>Gambits are the same thing
How many times do I have to explain to you that you could literally switch to the other characters and begin moving them around? You can't do that in XV.
>>334247283
You're retarded.
>>334247337
>not every FF follows
You mean only XV doesn't follow it.
>>334247232
>>334247097
This autist is still kicking and screaming? Might as well say an FF isn't an FF unless it has a blank slate personality devoid nameless protag like FF1
>>334247346
>>334247283
The way your post is structured makes one read it as you thinking that XIV is a lot like the older games, and I have to disagree. The classes play barely like their older iterations and more like they were ripped from casualized WoW clones.
VIII.
Yes.
>>334247424
Why does that matter when you can still give them direct menu commands like in older FFs?
>>334247424
>moving them around
If you mean by changing rows, you're a complete moron.
I agree that Versus should never have been a mainline entry , but your arguments right now are extremely retarded. They hat least have a reason for Noctis being important, as all their powers come from him.
>>334247424
I'm retarded because I'm right?
It's literally crystals, warrior of light and saving shit with final fantasy monsters in it.
What exactly else is there to a final fantasy game? It's not turn based and it's not tactics.Is that what you need? A turn based system?
>>334247346
What the fuck?
There wasn't even a release date last I checked the week or so before!
>>334247346
>double digits
nope
>>334247554
Because you can't directly control them like you can the protagonist in older FFs.
>>334247575
>If you mean by changing rows
You never played XII did you.
>>334247583
XIV is literally the cancer that killed Final Fantasy.
>hurr let's make a WoW clone
>>334247674
You could only move one guy at a time in XII. you still had to rely on the gambit system like you do in XV.
>>334247525
Except I'm not saying that, I'm not talking about gameplay which was not, in my mind atleast, a factor that made a final fantasy game a final fantasy game. It's all the setting and the story because Role Play is the key behind the entire genre in general.
Look at Dissidia, it's a Final Fantasy game+ and it doesn't follow the turn based systems of the old games.
>>334247742
And you could switch to any character in your current party if you're in combat. You could make any character the party leader. It's a game about a group, not an individual and the combat system reflects that. That's the main difference.
>>334247424
XI doesn't, XIV doesn't, in XIII you can only give input to one character ever.
In XV you control Noctis with action RPG playstyle while everyone else has menu commands that you can give them plus their own AI strategy as well as coop moves, team attacks and what not
XV is a mix if two different RPG styles into one which is why it's called AXB, you have as much control over your other party members as you do an FF1-10 party member because you have menu inputs, and for Noctis you have the highest degree of control for any one character in an FF has ever had which along with his weapon switching makes him even more diverse than any whole FF party alone.
You really need to stop sperging out, you are literally arguing for less freedom and control.
>>334244638
I would have been ready to rob a bank just to play XV/Versus XIII 4 or 5 years ago but Squeenix is taking way too long to release a game that doesn't even look like it will be worth the wait.
>>334247674
>XIV is literally the cancer that killed Final Fantasy.
No you faggot, when you start going hurr dis is not muh ff that's when you kill shit and it's literally not for anyone else but yourself. It happened for XI, XII and XIII despite how many people liked them and is still happening retroactively where people will go on a shit on great games like IV and VI.
You're the part of the fanbase that's the cancer killing rpgs.
>>334247674
You can give them direct menu inputs like FF1-10 characters
>>334245728
>You can't directly control anyone but the main character. It's shit and shouldn't even be called final fantasy.
lmao
Every time there's a single change, it's all of a sudden not FF anymore.
First it was 8 because of the setting, then X because no real world map, then XI because it's an MMO, then XII because offline MMO, then XIII because hallway, then XIV because MMO.
Final Fantasy XV is as much of a Final Fantasy as any other entry.
Nobody cares what you think. The people who made Final Fantasy call it Final Fantasy, so that's what it is. No matter how much you whine it won't change that.
>>334247834
And?
>>334245728
Nigger even Sakaguchi agrees that XV is the true nature of FF, you mean fuck all, Sakaguchis word is law.
>>334247834
so again every character is a blank slate - if that's what made FF great for you I feel bad for you
>>334247097
>Sounds like he's giving excuses as to why he's being lazy.
Okay so now I know you're 100% shitposting.
>>334247834
>only my autistic definition of what ff is true!?!?!!
Awwww
>>334248119
You mean the man behind The Spirit Within fuck him
>>334248301
No I mean the fucking creator of Final Fantasy.
>>334248119
>they took away control of other party members concept and kept it for the 7 Remake
This is disgusting. Honestly. If you're going to make this a mainline game at least make it good. Literally nobody wanted 7R to be an ARPG.
Sakaguchi and Tabata are going to do a livestream in 3 1/2 hours
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv258122776
>>334247880
The MMOs get a free pass because for the most part SOMEONE controls the other characters. Not all the time, but most of the time. XI introduced companions late in its life span, and you had a good amount of control over it. Still a bit of a no-no. XIV introduced it early during its reboot and it was total shit.
XIII is shit who cares.
>XV is a mix of RPG styles
And that's fine, the problem is that the mix causes you to only ever be able to directly control the main character making the others less relevant. It's what separates XV from good final fantasy games.
>>334247880
XI is my favorite FF of all time, I don't know what your problem is.
>>334247962
>>334248137
>>334248204
But you can't control them directly like you can the main character, like every other Final Fantasy. It's lazy design.
>>334248012
I'm sure getting a lot of (You)s for an opinion nobody cares about. I never said that about any of the other Final Fantasy games. That's called a strawman argument.
My theory about why you guys are so upset about this is sort of why people would get upset if I said that LeBron travels way too much (he's a cheater), or that Derek Jeter isn't the best Yankee shortstop of all time. Youngfaggots have this need for their generation to be relevant, and that goes for new Final Fantasy installments too. The truth is that XIII, XIV, and XV are all shit compared to the golden age of Final Fantasy. It's brutal truth.
>>334248014
And ur a faget
>>334248119
>argument from authority
>>334248278
>no argument at all
>>334248448
See >>334246867
Did you not watch the XV uncovered event? Literally the first thing that happened was Sakaguchi walks on stage and says XV is true FF
>>334248509
No they don't, you were proven wrong, deal with it autist.
When did you realize Final Fantasy was dead? X for me.
Don't bother replying if you hadn't figured it out by XI.
>>334248509
>It's lazy design.
I'm actually not gonna argue this as I agree.
But it's still a Final Fantasy game no matter how much you protest.
>>334248649
Show me the post where I was proven wrong.
6 or maybe 8. I think 8 was the first one I played, so I always remember that one the best.
Definitely looking forward too it, although I just realized I haven't beat 13 despite trying from the start a few times. Just got bored. Hope this is better.
>>334248509
You can give them menu commands just like you do characters in FF1-10
>>334248714
>And that's fine, the problem is that the mix causes you to only ever be able to directly control the main character making the others less relevant. It's what separates XV from good final fantasy games.
>>334248695
Everyone disagreeing with you and raping your gaping ass hole
>>334248574
>Sakaguchi walks on stage and says XV is true FF
Like he was paid to do. He's just sucking SE's dick because his solo games bombed hard.
>>334248713
You really need to play XIII in small bursts. That's how I got through it. Very small bursts.
>>334248650
It's funny because it's alive and kicking anon.
Maybe you just grew out of the stories square liked to tell. XI, XII and XIV were fun and even XIII was fun in its really stupid way.
>>334248774
They can disagree all they want, it doesn't make them right.
>>334244638
VII and yes.
>>334248695
You proved yourself wrong by stating your saying XV is not FF is just an opinion, so trying to come off like it's fact is pretty much retarded.
>>334248350
Yes I fucking know that he's also a fucking hack,if square didn't keep his ass on a leash FF7, would of been abomination.His last 2 games also showed how much of hack he is,and look at him doing shotty mobile.Matsuno and IIto were the only good directors that Square had
>>334248803
Only underage think that. This thing which parades itself as Final Fantasy is something different, you just don't realize it because you hadn't been born yet when FF6 was released.
>>334248854
It doesn't do what every other final fantasy before it did, thus making it not really a final fantasy game. More like Call of Fantasy, or Devil May Fantasy. Fantasy May Cry. Something along those lines.
>>334248762
This argument makes no sense.
You have 4+ members with equal input method from a menu like other FF games and that is because they are normal people with basic skills
While on top of that you have even more control with Noctis and his action RPG system with his unique skills, abilities, actions and so on, because he is the one with the powers.
No one gives a fuck about your braindead contradictory definition of FF, FF has never even been defined by the combat system to begin with
>>334248971
Okay.
>>334248997
Except if Noctis dies it's game over, so the other characters don't mean shit.
not ff lol
>>334248778
No because he's said so on his own in interviews before when the interview had nothing to do with XV, nice denial though, XV is a true FF by the creators of the franchises own definition. Nothing you say matters, not even your "hurr le appeal to le authority" meme
>>334248954
>XI isn't the best game ever
kekarino kiddo
>>334248997
>You have 4+ members with equal input method
>>334248997
>4+ members with equal input
>equal
No, they don't have equal input because you can't control them as you would the main character. Do you know what "Equal" means?
>Every single main installment of Final Fantasy other than XIII and XV allow you to control every character as though they were the main character
How is stating a simple fucking fact being contrarian? Because you don't like it? Again, do you know what the word "contrary" means?
>>334249116
Yeah exactly. Like he was paid to. His word means nothing anymore.
>>334248825
Ok anon it's OK, XV is true FF and no one agrees with you or your autistic definition. Shhh babby don't cry
>>334249101
I have beaten hundreds of bosses with the MC dead and the one living character spamming Jump or Invisible Moon or something.
It's a legitimate strat but m-muh casualized combat system. This is why turn-based combat is superior BTW.
>>334248971
But not every FF does what you are claiming so your own argument makes no sense.
>IX released on steam
oh man, I wonder if it's worth it, it's been years since i played this game
tell me, do PC ports of FF have a history of being good or bad?
>>334249278
Name one that doesn't. XIII doesn't count because hallways.
>>334249297
I'd wait for feedback to be honest.
>>334249101
You don't die on 0 hp, you have two HP bars and can revive when on 0, it's like in mother 3 hp you have time to recover
>>334249315
>XIII doesn't count because
lol fuck off
>>334249101
>Except if Noctis dies it's game over, so the other characters don't mean shit.
Not him but that reasoning is short sighted and dumb and has no heavy impact on the story being told nor the place it's being told.
What part of Role Play in Role Playing Game told you the entire party had to die to get a fail state? Because it's literally making you one character for immersion purposes and your character dying signifying you dying is also an immersion tool.
>>334249297
The screenshots look good. About the same quality if-not-better than emu.
>>334249403
I win.
>>334249315
>XIII doesn't count because hallways.
>>334249403
Besides which in the short time I spent with XIII (time I regret) I controlled other characters directly other than Lightning. Even XIII got it right.
>>334249173
Do you? Can you not read?
You control Ignis, Gladio, Prompto, Cor and the other members equally through a command menu
While separate from that you control Noctis with action RPG combat
You are wrong
>>334249232
Aww poor babby can't deal with his autism
>>334244638
Fucking FF 12 was the only good Final Fantasy that didn't have a broken as shit combat system,that didn't allow to counter enemies to the end of fucking time
>>334249403
>>334249486
Besides which in the short time I spent with XIII (time I regret) I controlled other characters directly other than Lightning. Even XIII got it right.
So again, name one Final Fantasy that doesn't do that.
>>334249530
Fuck off retard. You're not addressing my argument at all.
>>334249530
I think what he's talking about is that you do not control them from the action perspective, which is dumb because that implies all FF games are turn based RPGs and not just RPGs like Dissidia, XI, XIV and now XV.
>>334249315
XI, XIII, XIV
>b-but those three mainline FF don't count!?
>>334249641
In the MMOs someone controls every character in your party. You can control other characters directly in XIII. Try again.
>FF always been about change
>people declaring what is and isn't FF
lmao no wonder you faggots are so entitled
>>334244638
IV or VI, probably, but I really enjoyed XII when I sat down and gave it a chance.
I'm curious about XV, I enjoyed Duscae though it was a little bland. Not totally sold on it yet.
best isometric tactical jrpg ever
>>334244638
Bravely Default.
Nope, I'm looking forward to Bravely Second.
>>334249710
That's not ogre battle.
>>334249598
Dissidia, You can't control your assist, you can only give him a command to go like in XV but they do what they do.
>>334249727
>looking forward to a shitty game
My favorites are:
12
9
Tactics
4
No real order except 12 being in 1st
>>334249674
>every other final fantasy
>every character is equally important
>XV
>only the main character is important
>>334249754
Not a main part of the series. We're talking about 1 - 15
But for the sake of argument you could control almost every character in the game.
>>334249767
I said I'm NOT looking forward to XV, pal.
>>334249598
No it didn't, in 13 you only ever give commands to one character ever in battle
Switching who party leader is changes nothing because you still only input one command for one character ever
In XV you have full spectrum action RPG with Noctis while menu conmsbd inputs for all your other party members, you can give direct commands to all your party members only it is equal command menu inputs for Ignis, Gladio, Prompto, Cor and whoever else joins, while its action RPG combat for Noctis.
>>334249671
So you don't know how the MMOs or 13 work
>>334248971
>Nearly every FF attempts dramatic changes to the formula
>XV isn't a real FF because it attempts dramatic changes to the formula
>>334249816
>Not a main part of the series
You never read up on that and how it's literally apart of the FF1 timeline huh?
For the sake of argument you can control them, but not in a flowing way during battle, you have to get out of the battle scenario and switch over and not be able to use other other assists directly.
Memes and shitposting aside, I honestly prefer the look of the original Versus XIII. Not because I'm a Stella waifufag or anything but because everything looks much more polished and you could actually control your other party members. I kind of wish they did just release it on PS3 as Versus XIII instead of rebooting it and spending many more years on unnecessary tweaks of the game. I'll probably end up checking out XV anyway but I'm not getting my hopes up nor am I in a hurry to play it.
>>334249674
It's one faggot anal pained that XV offers the most control any FF ever has for Noctis
>>334249816
You're not baiting me, pal. I don't care enough about your subjective opinion.
Why so much love for FF12? Thought you queers hated that game.
>>334250000
Fuck you and your quads you sniveling shit.
>>334249959
Thanks for this pointless post.
>>334250000
12 is the new hipster choice.
>>334250051
Sorry my bad, let's all go back to throwing shit at each like retarded chimps instead of trying to have a meaningful discussion.
>>334249407
This.
>>334249816
But they aren't, you don't give commands to anyone but a single character in FF13, same with 11 and 14, in 13 no matter what you can only ever give commands to one character in a battle.
In XV you have action RPG gameplay for Noctis plus command menu inputs for everyone else, you can give commands to everyone in the party just through different methods, FF has never been about being equal stop fucking pretending it is or as if that is the single identifier towards being an FF, by your logic any turn based RPG is FF
>>334249872
>Switching who party leader is changes nothing because you still only input one command for one character ever
I didn't play much of XIII because I used it as a frisbee after about 50 minutes of walking in a straight line, but I distinctly remember controlling snow.
>conmsbd
Are you okay anon?
>still not addressing my main argument
Okay, here's the last time I'm going to spell it out for you. You cannot directly control everyone in your party in XV like you can the main character, just like every other Final Fantasy game. This makes the other characters less relevant by default.
>>334249920
So please explain to me how other people aren't controlling other player characters in the MMOs. I'm fucking dying to learn, because I clearly never played XI for hundreds of hours.
>>334249932
And? You're supposed to make an argument.
>>334249952
You could still control them directly. And even if it is part of FF1's story line it's still a sequel, like X-2 or XIII-2. Not a part of the main series.
>>334249993
Then stop replying. I love (You)s but this is getting out of hand.
IX is my favorite, but VII is a close second.
The first demo was rad - I liked it more than anything after X.
The second demo was crap though - played like a bootleg Kingdom Hearts.
I'm moderately hyped, will most likely buy it the first day it's out.
>>334250193
> And even if it is part of FF1's story line it's still a sequel, like X-2 or XIII-2. Not a part of the main series.
This is where I know you're just bullshitting.
Final Fantasy is not yours to even brand as what is and what isn't. Each game is a different game and a different final fantasy. Just because you don't like a playstyle doesn't mean it's not FF. You know exactly what final fantasy is and are playing the fool because if not, you really don't know what final fantasy is.
>>334244638
VII, not only my favorite of the series but one of my favorite games in general.
And yeah I am, much more than I am for the shitty excuse for a FFVII remake.
>>334250452
>Final Fantasy is not yours to even brand as what is and what isn't.
I never said it was but if we're going to talk about the main series then obviously we're going to be talking about Final Fantasy 1 through 15. We're not going to be talking about Mystic Quest or Chocobo Dungeon or Dissidia and so on.
Spin offs are spin offs. Sequels are sequels. It doesn't make them worse games or less relevant, they're just not a part of the main series of games.
It pains me seeing you faggots argue over this shit while I was growing up with the series and loved almost every game in it as much as the other one (except for XIII obviously). Why can't you fucking enjoy games more than you enjoy forcing your retarded opinion and trying to decide which game is now 'hipster's choice'. Fucking idiots, just burn your useless fucking selves.
Reminder not to trust FFXV-kun's lies.
>>334250364
See >>334250387
In 13 you only ever give commands to one character in battle at any time, it doesn't matter who the party leader is because in battle you can only give commands to one character EVER, you don't give commands to the other nehvers in 13, you only give commands to one character in battles ever no matter what
In XV you can give commands to ALL your party members in battle, for Noctis its with his action RPG system while for Ignis, Gladio, Prompto, Cor and whoever else joins you can give them menu commands during battle, you can give them all commands during battle only it's different method of input for Noctis and for the other party members, but it is still commands for all your party members in XV during battles
Also you are now backpedalling and trying to talk about party leader now, in FF7 you can't walk around as Tifa, or Aeris, or Barrett, or Yuffie, or Vincent, or RedXIII etc. So I guess FF7 isn't a true FF now.
Your entire argument is full of shit, you just said you wouldn't respond anymore si if you do then I know you are a shitposter talking out of your ass.
>what starts off as a harmless Final Fantasy thread soon devolves into shitposting and autistic manchildren throwing tempter tantrums and flinging shit at each other
Oh wait, that's just literally every Final Fantasy thread ever in the history of the board.
>>334250765
Which one is XV-kun?
I forget, does Tifa and Cloud end up together? Is it canon? What about Zidane and Garnet?
Depending on the answer it will determine if I rank the games high or low
>>334250765
Serj pls
>>334250761
Because /v/ is full of edgy teenagers and emotionally stunted manchildren. In other news, water is wet.
>>334250863
Yes, yes and yes.
>>334250795
>Also you are now backpedalling and trying to talk about party leader now
It's been my argument all along retard. Fuck off.
>>334250856
This is XV kun: >>334250795
>>334250856
None, yesterday he derailed an entire thread on the subject though, saying that all Nomura meant with that phrase is that airships fly through the worldmap and that he never said you could control one
>>334250863
Cloud is a shit all the way up to the movie and even slightly beyond. Not sure about Garnet and Zidane.
>>334250856
It's from yesterday's debate whether Nomura stated if you can fly airships in Versus.
FFXV-kun tried to prove that he never said that and it was mistranslation which actually meant "there are airships flying over the world map", while anons who knew Moonese proved him wrong.
Now it's confirmed with an actual native speaker who resides in the official forums.
tl;dr - FFXV kun is a lying scumbag
>>334244638
X is the best everything after X is shit. This is the objective truth.
>>334250954
No it hasn't and you were proven wrong, since in FF7 you can't walk around as Tifa, Aeris, Yuffie, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent etc
There goes your entire argument.
>>334244638
VIII
Yes, maybe a little too much in fact
>>334250993
Fuck off compilation babby
What's the best Final Fantasy for someone who doesn't really like JRPG'S but wants to get into them?
>>334251092
>No it hasn't
Scroll up and read the chain of replies.
>in FF7 you can't walk around as Tifa etc..
Okay, so apparently I need to explain to you that moving around the map in Final Fantasy is a representative of the entire party moving and not just the party leader.
>>334250990
>>334250996
Was this the same thread where he trying to deny FFXV being in development hell by trying to convince everyone that XV and Versus XIII are two completely different games?
PLEASE SE BRING BACK THE FF WE LOVE
BRING BACK THE SENSE OF EXPLORATION
BRING BACK TRUE CHALLENGING BOSSES
BRING BACK THE MAGIC AND CHARISMATIC CHARACTERS
BRING BACK A GAME THAT YOU HAVE TO PLAN AHEAD THE BATTLE
BRING BACK FUN MINIGAMES
THAT'S ALL I ASK
>>334250990
FFXV-kun derailed a thread over the fucking buttons that appear onscreen for the PS4 version. According to him they aren't PS4 buttons.
>>334251224
>being in development hell
Not XV kun but XV's development was stunted by XIV.
>>334251149
One of the SNES games, or VII or IX, or X only if you have a high tolerance for unskippable cutscenes.
>>334251223
Oh look backpedalling
You don't walk around as Tifa etc in FF7 so FF7 isn't a true FF
>>334251269
What
>>334251296
And having to waste time and money on not one, but TWO sequels to XIII.
>>334251304
True or False: Moving the main character on the world map moves your entire party.
>>334251138
>Fuck off compilation babby
What? Cloud is literally a shit all the way up to the end of the movie. The Movie is canon in that universe and they don't work out his Murder by inaction guilt until the end of the movie.
>>334251149
13 then 4 then 9 then 7 then 12 then 10
>>334251370
True or false, you directly walk around as Tifa, Aeris, Yuffie etc in FF7
>>334251149
A friend of mine who hated Final Fantasy got into it thanks to Dissidia
>>334251440
>can't answer a simple true or false
I win.
X is the best. XIII is the worst. XII is also pretty terrible.
>>334251440
True or false, you are overweight, wearing sweatpants and currently eating something?
It's true. Don't lie.
>>334251495
>Can't answer a simple true or false question
I won, again.
>>334251149
Dissidia.
Do you like tactics games? If you do check out tactics.
>>334251553
I asked first.
>>334251371
Well that I can agree with. Thought you were parroting the "lol FF7 is emo XD" meme.
>>334251495
>Trying to win against XV-kun
You do realize you're part of the problem, right?
>>334251543
I'm actually fucking your mom right now, she said to to tell you to turn your gay anime weeb music down
>This thread.
You're all equally autistic, girls.
>>334251623
You just need to know where to draw the line. If he can't answer a simple true or false statement or address the main crux of your argument the conversation is over. I won't respond to him unless he comes up with something at least remotely valid.
>>334251495
Dude just guve up, you lost.
>>334251618
No my literal stance on cloud after playing him as a kid and then again as an adult is that he is a shit to the people he apparently cares for and doesn't do a god damn thing to help the relationships around him until the end of the actual fucking movie when he's finally able to let Aeris and Zack go.
Tactics
Yes, the demo was more fun than XIII as a whole.
>>334249176
His consulting the FFXV dev team for more than a year without a single interview and almost no mentions of it whatsoever was a publicity stunt? Do you have any idea how delusional and crazy you sound?
Which FF has the best features? General gameplay? Story? Music? Design and style? Battle system?
>>334251762
My advice for you would be to stop trying to understand how shitty cashgrab movies with no effort put into them work.
>>334251632
Have fun with that. My mom is fat as fuck. Also, I hate weeb shit. The answer to my original question is true isn't it?
>>334244638
My favorite is XIII/VI. Yes, I'm excited for XV, I don't think it's gonna disappoint.
>>334251734
You can't answer a simple true or false question, you can't directly walk around as Tifa or Aeris etc in FF7 even though you could walk around as different characters in older FF, even older FF let you walk around as your other party members while condensing on the overworld to represent the whole party, yet FF7 you can't walk around as Tifa, Aeris, Yuffie, Barrett, Red, Vincent etc even though it would be the same representation
>>334251864
Which FF has the best features? X
General gameplay? X
Story? IV VI or IX
Music? XIV
Design and style? I'm not sure what you mean by this but I'd say Dissidia
Battle system? Subjective but I'm really feeling XV at the moment.
>>334251873
See >>334251936
BTFO
>>334251867
I'm not even talking about the movie either, that's just the turning point. He's a silent shit in the game too, even more silent and shit than what people think Squall is.
>>334251498
X is proto-XIII. Picking the lesser of two evils is still picking evil.
>>334251936
I asked first.
>>334251862
>Do you have any idea how delusional and crazy you sound?
nostalgiafags man..
>>334252039
He's hardly silent at all, what the fuck are you talking about? Squall outright told Quistis to go talk to a wall, Cloud did no such thing to anyone. Sure he was pompous and arrogant in the first disc but Squall literally can't even do so much as shake hands with another person.
>>334252032
The fuck are you on about bud? I don't give a flying fuck about walking around as some toon. I just stopped in to call a necbeard a neckbeard.
>>334251864
XI across the board.
>>334252083
Dude did you even read?
What does being a representation of the party change when in older FF you could walk around as the different party members while they all acted as the party representation, yet in FF7 you can't walk around as Tifa, Aeris etc?
FF7 isn't a true FF because you can't walk around as other members even though you could in older FFs
>>334251864
VII
>>334252083
>>334252236
Fuckin SAVAGE
Jesus Christ
>>334252165
We're gonna have to agree to disagree, Both of them were shits, but to me cloud was a bigger shit and left a bigger impact on me for some reason, given his crowning moment of shittyness to me was him letting Aeris get killed and then falling into the lifestream and coming out invalid.
>>334251864
>General gameplay?
V
>Story?
VI
>Music?
VIII
>Design and style?
VII
>Battle system?
X
>>334252236
>>334252305
It's a simple representation of the entire party. Example: There's times in VII where Cloud isn't in the main party, and thus you need to move across the world map as someone other than Cloud.
You're wrong, and you know you knew you wrong because you wouldn't answer a simple question. There's no greater sign of being wrong than someone who can't answer a simple question.
>>334252383
Well maybe try putting forth some arguments besides you personal feelings over the game and characters.
>given his crowning moment of shittyness to me was him letting Aeris get killed and then falling into the lifestream and coming out invalid.
You make it sound like he wanted to do that.
>>334252474
>Well maybe try putting forth some arguments besides you personal feelings over the game and characters.
You realize it's a game for immersion right? You could disagree with how I feel but this is all subjective anyway because what matters most is the feeling we take away.
I thought cloud was a shit, more so then squall was. And squall was a right asshole too.
>>334252052
They're completely different. X has far better characters and a way better combat system which to me is the whole point
>>334252680
Fair enough, but I'm still going to have to agree with you on that. Advent Children aside - I'll give you that much, it was totally unnecessary - I never thought Cloud was anywhere near as bad as the "lolemoXD" memes made him out to be. Sure, he didn't pay as much attention to Tifa as he should have, but at least he didn't outright treat her like shit the way Squall did to Quistis, which makes him much more likable even with his other character flaws weighing him down.
>>334244638
Either VI or XII. Tactics or Theatrhythm for sequels.
No. I was looking forward to XV until I played the demo, then lost all hope in it.
>>334252916
*DISagree lol my bad.
>>334252948
>sequels
Fuck, I'm still sleepy. I meant spin-offs.
>>334252429
Sorry but you already got BTFO you can't control Tifa, Aeris Yuffie etc on the world map or walk around as all of them even though you could for all your party members in older FF , your entire argument has crumbled
