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Allright, i can't.
I just can't.
How the fuck does people do this shit without exploiting the game's mechanics?
Using greatsword btw
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git____
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Just use a summon you fag
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>>333886380
you could always git gud
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>>333886380
git gud scrub
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>>333886380
fuck it, just do co-op op, no one's gonna know :^)
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>>333886380
>How the fuck does people do this shit without exploiting the game's mechanics?
gitting gud
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>>333886380
what's wrong with exploiting the game?
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honestly the boss isnt that hard, its the run thats killing your mood. the run is the fucking worst and longest out of any souls game so far. who thought it would be a good idea to sit through two loading screens and run for 3mins straight?
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>>333886380
don't kill one until the other cat only has a fraction of health left

then kill it before it goes super saiyan
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>>333886980
>>333887050
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>>333887090
I'm in the covenant of champions, and melee only
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>>333887252
>git gud
my statement still applies lord of the cocks
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>>333886380
I used the rapier, because apparently it's broken as fuck when it comes to dishing out damage.

I beat it just to say I did, cos fuck all this area, never again
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>>333887235
>summon the 2 NPC white phantoms
>run to the bossfog while they distract the rapehorses
>balck crystal them out and fight the boss
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>>333887252
then leave the fucking covenant you tryhard faggot
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>>333887239
so this is just a rehash of Biggie Smalls again?
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>>333887393
nah, Super Smough/Super Ornstein completely reheal when you kill the other one
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git gud is bullshit NEETs spout every time to try and humilliate somebody that doesn't waste his entire life behind the monitor or tv like them and they are also usually 15 year olds with 13 ms reflexes
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>>333887383
this only works in ng and ng+, any higher and they either die too fast or you aggro too many horses.

having to summon to make the run even bearable is trash design regardless.
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Great community you got here, Soulsfags.
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>burning yourself with DaS2 when 3 is around the corner
Just uninstall the game.
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>>333886380
I beat it with a greatsword OP. I had the two NPC summons but they got nuked early on into the battle.
Just keep at it and stop getting discouraged. Roll into their attacks and keep them at a medium distance.
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>>333887753
>having to summon to make the run even bearable is trash design regardless.
because you say so? the areas were designed with summoning in mind

summoning is a mechanic of every Souls game
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>>333887790
community went to shit with das1
des community was fucking awesome
everyone was a massive bro
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>>333887790
DaS fucking ruined everything with it's epick memes
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>>333887835
>I had the two NPC summons but they got nuked early on into the battle.
that's sounds like a lie

they nearly have as much health as the boss, and they constantly heals themselves (and you)
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>>333886380

why does dark souls iii look like a ps2 game?
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>>333887790
>anything on /v/
>indicative of normal people
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>>333886380
Use that one item that double your damage
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>>333888063
because good graphics take effort
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Honestly this boss is a good time to use those brightbugs you've been storing up

Doing the most damage possible to the first cat is super important, use a weapon that does a lot of damage quick, battleaxe or ice rapier work well.

Play cautious once there's two on the screen then exploit the openings and mash attacks, use elizabeth mushrooms do negate any damage you might take
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Summon, the fight(and area before it) were designed to be done in co-op.
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>>333887381
I just want the sword you get with their souls
>>333887391
Are you retarded? I want the ring.
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>>333887872
>because you say so?
not really, these games are built for single player. the inclusion of a co-op centric zone was a strange decision.

i still would like your reasoning for defending the two loading screens and 3min run to the boss regardless if you summon or not.
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>>333887790
Most games have a shitty community. But yeah, this community is pretty shitty.
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>>333887627
seems someones salty about not being gud enough
git gud
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>>333888281
There's no defending it, it's bed of chaos level of bad.
At least it's optional.
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>>333887973
>that's sounds like a lie
Not going to pretend i played the DLC more than once but I did lose both of my phantoms rather quickly. Im also ass at the game.
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>>333887924
Enjoy your silky smooth community consolecuck
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Fire ice rapier +10
Old Leo ring


Also git gud
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Cant you just summon Vengarl and have him tank the whole thing for you?
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>>333886380
literally just summon, you sperg
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>>333888281
>not really, these games are built for single player. the inclusion of a co-op centric zone was a strange decision.
I disagree, and so does everybody who worked on DeS, DaS, DS2, DS3 and BB

>i still would like your reasoning for defending the two loading screens and 3min run to the boss regardless if you summon or not.
It adds tension to the bossfight. You made it all the way there and its going to be a pain in the ass to make it back, so you better not lose!

Do you want the game to be like Super Meat Boy? Instantly transporting you back to the bossdoor every time you die?
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>>333887383
why wouldn't you just keep them around for the boss?
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>>333888734
self-imposed challenge, mostly
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>>333888713
>Do you want the game to be like Super Meat Boy? Instantly transporting you back to the bossdoor every time you die?

This is what millennial gamers want.

They want you to instantly respawn at the boss door, and not recover any of the HP they lost in the fight, so they can just bang their head against the brick wall until it eventually falls over.
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>>333886380
Not defending the choice, the this is a co-op boss OP, same with the blue smelter demon, and the gank squad. They were intended to be co-op, and people who don't have the DLC can even co-op for those bosses.
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>>333886380

All the DLC is pretty much avoidable and not worth the frustration.
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>>333889010
Millenials want to overcome adversity through struggle? The fuck are you on, you can't even keep your memes straight
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>>333889064
how the hell was Cool Blue Smelter designed for co-op? There's only one of him
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>>333889130
gotta disagree, anon

the DLC areas were much more fun than anything in vanilla DS2
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>>333889220
>Millenials want to overcome adversity through struggle?
More like the illusion of struggle
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>first time getting to the outskirts
>barely manage through the hell hell just to arrive to this shit
>die
>again get to them
>die
>getting real tired of this shit
>die

and then i died some more until the raindeers were extinct, and even then i died.

then i realized i was in the champions covenant and after leaving it i assfucked them with powerstanced greatswords
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>>333889434
is that like the illusion of fun?
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>>333889324
Not him but, so far eleum loyce has only been a bunch of bullshit enemies that has heat detecting attacks.
This doesn't make the game fun or good.
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>>333889521
>people having fun in a different way is an illusion
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>>333886380
>dying in souls games
/v/ really has gotten extremely casual....

i remember when /v/ used to have I Wanna Be The Guy no hit speedrun challenges. modern /v/ probably doesn't even know what that game is.
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>>333889521
more like your illusion of a witty comeback
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>>333886380
Get the first one as close to half as possible without triggering the second one, wait until it does it's retarded magic where is spawns those spears over it's head, then run behind it and do as much damage as possible before the second one spawns.
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>>333886380
That shit was easy. Beat it on my 4th try. The second one doesn't even attack until the first one's almost dead. All their attacks can be dodged via i-frames.

Getting to the boss is the real pain in the ass, the bosses not so much.
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>>333889534
The mobs of enemies can be a little tiresome, but the level design in the DLC was stellar. It really reminded me of DeS.

And honestly, they're endgame areas. If the enemies were pushovers then it wouldn't be very satisfying. Throwing multiple enemies at you and forcing you to multitask and use the environment against them isn't such a horrible thing.
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>>333889534
How about those ice porcupines?
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>>333889492
You don't immediately join champion's covenant? Then you went and fucking LEFT IT?

Just how bad are you at video games?
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>>333889010
>banging your head against a brick wall is somehow worse than running a mile only to bash your head against a brick wall

Are you fucking retarded
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>>333889829
> and use the environment against them isn't such a horrible thing.
This is what I did like about the DLC. A lot of encounters seem bullshit but almost every encounter in every DLC has a way to use the environment to your advantage.
>>333889869
This is an exception. Fuck these little retarded pricks.
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>>333889968
No, but you clearly are if you don't understand the difference.
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>>333889534
the creative NPC invaders were my favourite part

I loooooved that you could use a Giant Seed and get enemies to attack them. That could have been an oversight on B Team's part, but they really came through
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>>333889010
Are you really fucking middle-aged?

Just pull the trigger already you fucking queer
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>>333890076
Checkpoints should never exist then, good to know
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>>333890076
Its just an arbitrary amount of progress that is lost upon death.

You really are dumb
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>>333890204
only casuals need checkpoints, havent you beaten a fucking castlevania or ninja gaiden game? you die and restart the level, run out of continues and restart the game.

dont be a baby bitch ass casual faggot.
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>someone is having trouble on dark souls
>"git gud xD"
Nice fucking one reddit, really great community you have here.
At least Bloodborne community isn't this cancerous.
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I was watching MANvsGAME stream the other day, he's doing an all bosses SL1 run. Someone on the chat asked him if he usually use drugs while playing games for a long time, he almost immediatelly shut down his stream.
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>>333890286
That would be fine is games were designed with a flat or gradually sloping difficulty level

But because that is boring shit, they aren't.

So to avoid the pain of playing through really tedious, easy levels, you're allowed to start farther in the game.

Only someone who enjoys the feeling of bashing their head against the wall would feel the marathon of the shitty early game is worth it.
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>>333890115
>>333890204
>>333890278
Found the 15 year olds.
You're welcome mods.

I'll bet you're just as butthurt that you cant pause the game to read a text.
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>>333890367
The bigger the community becomes, the worse it gets. That's how communities works, you can't escape this rule.
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>>333890512
Pull the trigger faggot
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>>333886380
>same week the DLC come out
>put my sign down and someone summoned me to the frigid outskirts or whatever the fuck it's called
>we literally got fucking lost in there, fighting reindeers nonstop until I finally died and who knows what the fuck the host did after

Didn't even bother to do it on my world, shit was terrible.
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>>333890502
all you've done is prove how casual you are

thanks for the collage of your dumb posts though, my plugin shows anonymous poster id's on boards where they aren't visible so i picked all yours out.
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>>333886380
>meme weapons
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>>333890431

he actually admitted he was using drugs

probably still is desu
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>>333890595
But I'm enjoying life.
You're clearly not if you have nothing better to do than sit on 4chan and cry about how hard games should be easier for you.

Do you need the illusion of success because your real life sucks so bad?
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>>333890559
oh yeah, because the babyfur community was so great when it was just a couple autists jerking off in their garage
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>>333890606
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>>333890704
He is but he doesn't talk about it out of shame, he's also been in severe depression ever since his wife left him. One of these days he'll end up killing himself.
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probably the worst designed boss in the entire series.
almost zero visibility for most of the run to it.
4 horribly overpowered mini bosses just to get to the fight.
two bosses at once.
It is a decent coop fight. but a horrible solo fight.
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>>333890748
Pull the trigger faggot
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>>333890431
I accidentally stumbled on one of his streams, he sucks at Dark Souls why is he even doing that?
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>>333890758
How did you managed to translate what i said into "all small communities are great". Terrible.
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>>333890842

so what happened exactly, did she cheat? fucking cunts

>2016

>dating or getting married

depression sucks though, I got over that and wouldnt wish it on anyone.
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>>333890890
>he sucks at Dark Souls why is he even doing that?
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>>333890115
>>333890595
>>333890863
>being so mad that you become a broken record
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>>333890778
son, i'm 32 years old, i've had a somethingawful account before it cost money. i was in raspberryheaven irc with moot before 4chan was made. take your casual reddit shit outta here kiddo until you can beat I Wanna Be The Boshy without getting hit once.
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>>333891015
Pull it
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>>333890959
He cheated, actually.
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>>333890758
Nice strawman, you fucking faggot.
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>>333887252
That doesn't absolve you of getting good faggot.
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>>333890959
She cheated on him because he was using meth, she also owns half of the MANvsGAME brand, so they're basically in court battle now.
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>>333888734
They will be pretty much dead by the time they get to the boss, but will still give the boss an hp boost.
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>>333891116

well shit.

why get married if you want to fuck around anyway?
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>>333889010
You do realize that banging your head against a wall until it falls over is how Dark Souls is done, right? Does it really matter whether you have to trudge through boring shit that you already passed? Imagine if every time you died in Super Meat Boy, you had to restart the chapter. Is that what you want?
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>>333891498
Where was the video games in this post
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>>333891053
>32 years old
>Still posts on /v/
Wew lad
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>>333890959
She left him for using drugs, I mean she had a reason but was bitchy about it, she also took his cat and since she owns half the MANvsGAME brand is also demanding half the income he gets for the stream. He's basically the new Brendan Fraser.
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>>333891478
>Imagine if every time you died in Super Meat Boy, you had to restart the chapter. Is that what you want?

I don't play shitty casual games like Super Meat Boy, but to answer your question, yes.

If you have failed, then you should have to restart everything.
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>>333888063

that's dark souls 2 anon.
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>>333886380
I am also doing a DS2 playthrough, and just finished this boss today.

Get the 3 NPC summons. This includes Vengarl, which means finishing his side quest in Shaded woods.

Next, look at the sun. Turn to the left, such that the sun is on your right and your shadow is straight out to your left, if not slightly behind you. This ensures you are going the correct direction. Have a shield with 100% physical resist and good stamina consumption equipped.

Now walk to the west, holding your shield out when the blizzard is up. When a horse charges you, counter-hit immediately and stay near him to avoid his stupid flying bullshit. Let Vengarl rip it to shreds while the other two companions fuck each other.

Repeat this all the way to the Pharros water pool, take a breather, refill health, and continue to the boss.

As others have stated getting both bosses down to ~10% before killing one is ideal. If you can't kill the other before he bloodlusts, stay the fuck back and wait for the buff to die off.

Done.
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>>333892059
>If you have failed, then you should have to restart everything.
That's arbitrary. If you have proven that you can overcome an obstacle, what is the value of repeating it (other than artificially padding out the game's length, or sucking up quarters at the arcade)
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>>333892217
you haven't overcome anything though, or you wouldn't have died
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>>333889064
>the gank squad
Just use a twin blade and they go down like bitches.
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>>333891892
At the very least you could've fell for my
>image.jpg bait
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>people say summon NPC's
>they cause the second boss to aggro at 80 percent health
>each swipe does 30 percent of their health
>they get killed quickly and leave you to face two overpowered bosses
Honestly, the way I did it was to always wear the blessed King's Crown so I wouldn't have to worry about hollowing. Then I respecced as a a sorcerer/pyromancy and just try to outnuke them. If you're lucky, you can get one of them to 25 percent health before the other one steps in, then it's just a matter of landing a few more blows and it's one on one, which makes it really easy.
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>>333892059
Okay, the next time you play a Souls like game and you die, your character is deleted.

Restart everything right?

Yes, I know, the Witcher already did this
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>>333891892
>You're not allowed to do anything else during the day, and cannot multitask
Spoken like a true mong
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>>333889950

>how bad are you at video games

pretty good honestly, but this is just bullshit and i never even had any problems with the game even though i've beaten it on champions covenant on my first playthrough.
maybe i was just feed up with the game, anon.

>lol a video game gave you trouble LOLZZ xD

pls go
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>>333892391
More like sprint 10m 20m 30m etc up to 100m and if you don't break 10 seconds at 100m do it again
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>>333892281
>Get an A on your first exam
>Get an F on your second exam
>Hurr, that means you should repeat both of them
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>oh shit maybe i'll get a cool reward for this incredibly obnoxious boss
>the reward is you being sent back to the beginning
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>>333892281
I know right, hurdles get reset if you hit one
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>>333889950
>You don't immediately join champion's covenant? Then you went and fucking LEFT IT?

wat
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>>333886380
get a real weapon
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>>333892391
Okay, the next game you play as an immortal, and you literally cannot die. Even when you lose all your HP you just explode and stand back up and keep fighting the boss, also the explosion hurts the boss. If you're trash at the game, you can literally throw yourself at the boss until it dies.

How exactly is this fun when you face no challenge and learn nothing?
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>>333886380
le epic gittus goodus maymay EXDEE!!
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>deleting posts from the best tripfag /v/ has ever had

proof that there are no original 2003 staff left

I'm Lanced Jack, and I approve of this message
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>>333887872
>the areas were designed with summoning in mind
>summoning is a mechanic of every Souls game
yeah if you're a casul
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>>333892742
Thanks for admitting that your arguing for bad game design
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>>333891053
hello witwix
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>>333893258
I was articulating what millennial gamers want.

I'm glad you've seen the light, and now realize the error of your ways
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>>333892054
The fuck? So he streams by himself, puts in effort and the bitch wants half the money just because she has a vagina?
Women are disgusting.
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>>333886380
I soloed every other boss in the game but I didn't even try to solo it after my first attempt it's such bullshit.
Two on one and it's at the end of a 1 mile run of other bullshit enemies, worst part of the whole game plus DLC, worse than Izalith.
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>>333894604
What's so bad about Izalith?
Hard mode: no bed of chaos
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>>333895245
neon orange everywhere
95% of the enemies are either dragon butts or retarded statues
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>>333886380
roll towards them when they attack
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>>333897012
at least the environment was interesting
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Allright op here.
greatsword, no armor, no shield and pine resin
that did the trick
i felt nothing after all these tries
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>>333888275
>I want the ring.

Then use Cheat Engine to get it like everybody else.
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>>333900027
you're a pathetic piece of shit
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>>333886380
>>333892165
>Get the 3 NPC summons.
Error number one.
DO NOT summon for this area.
First of all, summoning buffs enemy defense and poise and that includes bosses too. If you go solo, you can pancake the horses with a single R2 attack with a great club if you have the stone ring on. Chain pancaking makes dealing with the horses painless.
Second, the time when the second tiger comes down depends on how many people you have summoned. If you're soloing them, it doesn't come until the first one is on its last legs. But if you have lots of summons with you, it comes down almost immediately.
>getting both bosses down to ~10% before killing one is ideal
If you have no problems dodging both at the same time, sure. But I prefer to DPS down the first one ASAP. Because 1v1 the kittens are one of the easiest bosses in the entire series. They only have like three attacks with very obvious tells.

Also, another thing, if you make a beeline for the ring of the living from the last building, there's a good chance to avoid the horses on the last stretch altogether. There's an area free of the blizzard around the edge of the pit.
But If you stray to the left, two or more horses can spawn at once.
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>>333886380
>Using greatsword btw
don't

are you str? use the blacksmith hammer, upgrade it to +5

heavy weapons are cool and fun but they're useless against any boss that poses any threat, use quick weapons, get a hit in, dodge dodge dodge, get a hit in, repeat

you can't count on staggers against bosses, this makes heavy weapons a joke
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Recklessly and relentlessly attack the first one before the second one comes in. Heal up when it does. Finish the first one that's around 1/5th life. Easy peasy.
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>>333900961
You dexfags are hopeless.
I just killed this boss with FUGS on NG+ yesterday no problem
>dodge dodge dodge, get a hit in, repeat
Exactly. If you're against aggressive bosses and can only get one hit in, heavy weapons would do more than fast ones, even if the latter have higher dps in theory.
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>>333888713
>so does everybody who worked on DeS, DaS, DS2, DS3 and BB
Thats why every boss in every game is pathetically easy in co-op vs solo right?

>It adds tension to the bossfight.
I actually enjoy many of the runs back to bosses, but the standouts are terrible. Lost Izalith without hidden bonfire, Frigid Outskirts, Iron Passage.

The run to Lud&Zallen is boring and tedious. You have a rather neat mechanic that could have been applied to the boss but was squandered to just being a vision obstruction, and a mob thats quite strong unless you use heavy STR weapons to stagger them to death. Not to mention on the higher NG cycles if you cant kill the horses fast enough it becomes a suicide run to the boss everytime.

Most of the problem could have been alleviated with a secret bonfire in a cave or something.

>Do you want the game to be like Super Meat Boy?
No, i would like decent runs back to the bosses, you seem to not care about the quality of the run back, which is literally all im saying here.
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>>333900961
Nigga, i defeated them with gs.
I can't play this game with any other type of weapon, i love to hit hard and multiple enemies at a time.
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>>333902573
enjoy your 5 second swing recovery timers
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>>333901331
>dodge, hit boss once, trying to dodge again, he hits me before I can roll again because of the retarded recovery time

no fucking thanks

also, dexfag? really? I just recommended the blacksmith hammer, probably the best str weapon against bosses, and I myself use it for bosses and I use greatswords against common enemies
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>>333902914
>could it be that I'm just bad at dodging?
>no way! it's the weapon's fault!
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>>333903092
I don't need to make fun of you, anyone who played any Souls game will be able to see how stupid you are for defending using weavy weapons against most bosses
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Everyone said they were hard, and though have to agree I must also say that I beat them on my first try, it just took a while to actually get to the fight
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I know your pain OP. My Jackie Chan run was stopped dead by 2katz. Never trying again.
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>>333903573
Yeah, everyone will be able to see how stupid I am for being able to hit bosses and dodge without getting hit using heavy weapons, and you cannot.
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>>333903752
The dragon fist sucks hard in PvE.
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>>333904108
I know. What else is Jackie Chan supposed to fight with though?
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>>333903573
>Brianna Wu cosplaying

absolutely disgusting
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>>333904108
actually it fucking wrecks "player" NPCs, I think it fucks with their AI or something

>>333904015
is this nigga serious
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>>333904442
You can just sprint counter clockwise to dodge the homing soulmass.
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>>333886380
I just solo'd them earlier today. They're not tough if you know the timing on the spinning swing and the lunge. Just sprint to dodge the magic, and backstep to dodge the AOE.

Also helped a few people kill them. Easiest either alone or with three summons, just don't lose trakc of the second cat.

Seriously, they have dick-all for health if you fight them solo, and with four it's straight up easy.
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>>333887239
the super saiyan doesn't last though, and one cat is way easier then two.

even super saiyan cat is half the difficulty of aava
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>>333904958
>half the difficulty of aava
They're literally the same boss, copied and pasted. How's it any less difficult? At least it has the buff, while Aava does not.
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>>333904673
The homing soulmass really isn't the problem, anon. But thanks for the unsolicited advice about a game I dropped a long time ago, I guess.
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>>333886380
They are extremely vulnerable when summoning their homing soulmass. If you stand under their front left leg you can hit them while all the missiles will miss.

Also rolling into them when they do the swipe pounce will put you under them so you can attack their back legs without getting punished.

As with every multi-enemy boss you never want to be greedy with your attacks and run yourself out of stamina. You need to have the roll ready at a moment's notice. Good luck.
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>>333886380
Kill the first tiger. Chug if you took Damage. Never let tiger 2 out of your range. Keep wailing on him before during and after super saiyan. If done properly you will only need like 2 swings to kill him after he goes full rape mode. If not you're fucked and you have to try again.
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>>333905203
Not him, but the fury mode only makes him hit harder and take less damage, he has the same attacks and same speed, so you just need to keep doing the same.
I actually killed him while he enters fury mode, you get like a good 5 seconds of hits more or less.
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>>333890286
You can't run out of continues in NG1 you assmouth
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>>333890286
>run out of continues and restart the game.
But when you do the game offers you the save code to enter the next time you start the game, which carries over all your progress.
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>>333890606
> my plugin shows anonymous poster id's on boards where they aren't visible so i picked all yours out.
prove it or gtfo, faggot
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I think icy town was my favorite dlc, it's a shame this area is so balls.

>empty pure white area
>cant see two inches in front of your face, mostly to hide the fact that the area is an otherwise bland empty shit pile
>infinite spawning enemies.
>3 minute walk
>boring boss

I know that they wanted to make the optional areas in the DLC much harder and more co-op focused on design, but all three of the co-op areas were so shitty.

>The boss are three random hallows with fifty trillion hp to make up for their bad AI

>The boss is just a boss from the base game, but now hes blue

>the boss is a boss from this DLC, but now there are two!

They could have really done something cool with the co-op areas, but instead we got afterthought poorly designed rehash shit.
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