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Is there any chance that this ends up being a surprise flop?
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Is there any chance that this ends up being a surprise flop? Similar games in Paragon and Battleborn look DOA.
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>>333884918
How big of a flop we talkin' about here?
http://steamcharts.com/app/273350
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>>333885149
Evolve supposedly made money for the publisher, it just had zero legs whatsoever. I doubt its budget was that big either.

Overwatch just seems positioned as the next big thing and there's something about it that doesn't sit quite right that I can't put my finger on.
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Most of these 'surprise flops' these days are games that were shitty but people still bought by the truckload.

To be honest the most surprising flop in recent memory was Halo 5. Last I checked the shit hasn't even reached 3 million and the playerbase fucking hates it.
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It's made by a company with an insane loyal following and has a bunch of streamers advertising it constantly, so I doubt it'll be a flop.
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There's no chance it will be a flop.

It's from Blizzard, it's a solid game(Nothing amazing or nothing too awful) and it has waifus.

It won't flop, as much as you guys want it to.
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>>333885440
I read the first part of your comment and it left me thinking and I also could only think of Halo 5 as the only real surprise flop (well, and Skylanders Superchargers, but that's a different situation). Evolve/Titanfall made money and iirc both had surprisingly modest budgets.
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It will flop like HotS flopped.
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>>333885648
>>333885758
Does their loyal following extend into a completely different genre to their other titles and away from PC? It's a leap into the unknown imo.

Again, something doesn't sit right about this game, and I can't quite put my finger on it.
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>>333886291

Absolutely.

Look at Hearthstone. Even HoTS(Though it's not big on twitch) has a lot of players.
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>>333886291
>Does their loyal following extend into a completely different genre to their other titles
Probably, they're insane after all.
> and away from PC?
Why does it take them away from PC? It also has a PC release and it'll probably get more updates then the console version like TF2.
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>>333886587
Because FPSes as a genre are way, way bigger on console than PC.

Plus doesn't shit like Diablo run on a potato? Different circumstances.
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>>333884918
I been playing paragon since release. Its different from other mobas in a sense that it kind of combines the need to grind out cards. A hearth stone feel but slightly rewarding and worth the grind. I imagine they will add a lot of new cards later on and more heroes not sure about overwatch or other games. But i played every other moba alphas betas etc to since wc3 dota.
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>>333886291
Blizzard shills are like apple followers
There re no games outside of blizzard games for them, it wont flop
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>>333887103
I just think the audience for this sort of shit is wildly different from their other shit.

I also think this sort of shit is a tough sell at $60.
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>>333887517

It's $40.

The $60 is collector's.
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>>333887517
It's 40.
The sixty dollar thing is a special edition with skins and other extra's for their other games.
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>>333887662
>>333887669
Hmm, really? I just looked on Amazon and assumed that was the price. Looks like Blizzard are savvier than I gave them credit for.
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This is Blizzard trying to stake a claim in the ASSFAGETS world and that's always a greasy move to make. Especially when they're unofficially trying to usurp TF2 as well. Even with all the marketing and Blizzard's good name there's always the chance it just won't catch on.
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>>333887838
Er, from what I recall console versions are $60 regardless, and PC has a $40 version.

It's somewhat weird, considering the $60 on PC comes with stuff for other Blizz games.
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>>333887838

This is just the AUD prices, which are roughly equal to $40 and $60 equiv.
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>>333888064
We're back to the oldschool of PC games being significantly cheaper? Crazy. Still, $60 retail online-only console title is a tough nut to crack imo.
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>>333888064
>$60 on the Xbox One and PlayStation 4
>60 bucks for the version that is less likely to get updates
Why?
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Wait, is it 40 dollars on consoles? I'm a poorfag so I need to know this.
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>>333888352

Consoles. It's probably some kind of standard that everyone has to follow.
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>>333888280
They already announced no paying for new characters and maps, so that's a plus.
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>>333888352
Because they have to pay the console manufacturers a large licensing fee to publish on their platforms.

PC games being significantly cheaper than console games used to be standard practice.
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>>333884918
No.
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>>333886291

Half of the OW cast is blizzdrone-tier easy. They understand very well that the FPS can be a brutal genre for casuals, so they did a good job to make the game easy and satisfying enough for casual crowd.

Even the hardest characters are still far away from being as hard as the TF2 core classes Scout, Demo, Sniper, Soldier
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>>333888418
Nope which is weird.
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>>333888526
It's standard to rip-off console users? Jesus I genuinely feel bad for consalefags.

The absolute worst part is they'll probably force the updates to be DLC like they did with Valve.
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Doesn't matter how good the game is

If blizzard's name is on it millions will buy it.
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>>333887103
Spotted the Nostralius cuck.
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>>333888635
Console manufacturers DLC/patch rules have changed since last-gen, in part because Sony never gave much of a shit about it and now they dominate. It's why every game gets a zillion patches before they work properly.
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>>333884918
It can't, the Blizzard fans are too strong for any of their products to fail.
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>>333888635
>It's standard to rip-off console users?
blame the console manufacturers that make publishers and developers pay a huge fee to make games for their worthless paper weight.
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>>333884918
The big name people who've played it have said good things, so no.
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>>333888783

SMITE and Warframe console versions are only a patch behind so that's pretty good.

But Blizz has said they're balancing the console version seperately. It's going to be slower paced and what not.
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>>333888635

>It's standard to rip-off console users? Jesus I genuinely feel bad for consalefags.

They're the ones responsible for paid gaming online, controller FPS (and therefore the death of the genre), obsession with realistic graphics (which killed distinct artstyle games like Okami), etc.

I don't want to start the shitposting and i don't hate people who have consoles from this or last gen, they're in general ok, but never ever feel bad for them. They're responsible for a fair share of the cancer from the industry, even if they didn't mean it.
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>>333888975
>But Blizz has said they're balancing the console version seperately
i am actually glad they said this.
console FPS should remain seperate or else they are going to ruin shit on the PC for the very short lived console generation that buys an FPS then plays it for 2 weeks and then moves on to the next thing.
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>>333888975
Usually FPS devs balance for console and you get fucked up massively OP weapons on PC that are never fixed (e.g. the fucking Smart Pistol in Titanfall)
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Going to be unbalanced shit. Blizz are retarded when it comes to fixing anything. Expect to see FOTM classes and nerf bats every month forever.
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>>333886291
>Again, something doesn't sit right about this game, and I can't quite put my finger on it.

It's not a coherently designed game. IIRC everything is scrapped from a failed MMO.

Just looking at the characters I can kind of tell what they do, but that's not saying much. They're so busily designed and samey that I just don't really care.
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>>333884918
There's no way. Mechanics, design, porn, community involvement (streaming)... it's all there. I have no idea how it will do competitively though.
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>>333889454
>I have no idea how it will do competitively though.
fuck "competitively", how long until people realise pretty much nobody gives a shit about that? Capcom just figured out how many people give a shit about the "FGC"
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>>333889454
only time will tell
so far only LoL and TF2 faggots get pissy saying this game is just even more casual

but only retards take their opinions seriously
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>>333889178
>>333889363

http://www.pcgamesn.com/overwatch/overwatch-balanced-separately-for-console-new-heroes-being-tested-internally

Here's a post about it. Basically they don't want console balance to harm the pc balance.

Like nerfing a character because of their aim when turning on PC would harm consoles, or vice versa.
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You have the guaranteed market of Blizzard fans, and the temporary market of TF2 fans and disillusioned TF2 fans who may or may not stick around.

No matter what, it's going to make a massive, massive splash that will probably let Blizzard break even. Might have some longevity to it as well.
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>>333889178

>Lacking customization so there won't be a huge disparity between consoles and PC
>Console maps designs are designed to be compatible with consoles (controllers)
>Hero skills and weapons designs are designed to be compatible with consoles (controllers)

It's just PR talk for the gullible. The core of the game is designed for consoles, just some small tweaks are going to be made for consoles.

It'll probably be a fun but dumbed down TF2, don't have high expectations to be the savior of the PC FPS genre or anything remotely like that.
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>>333889646
I miss early TF2. Now that was a great casual FPS until Valve ruined it by filling it with junk. Shame they listened to whiners about crits too
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>>333888138
I could have sworn it was 59.95 a few months ago

damn dollar prices
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>>333884918
>Similar games in Paragon and Battleborn look DOA.

Because they're always being compared to Overwatch. Overwatch is the big contender here, others similar in any kind of way are out performed.
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>>333889797

Exchange rates and the fact Blizz IS gouging us $15 on both editions regardless of our dollar value.
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>>333888352
>Remembers Console TF2 back in 2007 and waiting years for an update that never came
>vietnam_flashbacks.wav
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>>333884918
>Is there any chance that this ends up being a surprise flop?
None whatsoever.

It looks like shit, but there are too many Blizzard fans for that to happen.
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>>333889770
>small tweaks
>limiting sensitivity to bastion on console
>limiting sensitivity to all characters at a lower cap to that of PC
yeah no, take your console shit and stay the hell out.
it won't be long till PS5 comes out and you faggots are forced to leave and none of the games will be compatible
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Will there be an open beta for overwatch? I need something to cleanse my hype a wee bit.
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>>333890089

May 3rd is open beta.
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>>333885379
>Millions of copies sold
>multiplayer only
>playerbase DROPS 70% to 2000 after a MONTH

Wow, the average must be playing 1 round before shutting it right off and uninstalling
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I think the games the OP mentioned would do better if so much hype didnt surround overwatch.
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>>333890067
Honestly, the console version is probably the better game than the current PC version, that's how much Valve fucked the game up.

>>333890274
Used copies are everywhere for nothing. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. It feels like Watchdogs is the only non-annual franchise to have more used copies clogging up shelves.
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>>333890394
Actually, thinking about it, a comparison: Evolve is literally the new Brink. Every fucking games shop has a ton of copies of Brink that they can't get rid of.
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>>333884918
I've been in Paragon alpha since November of last year. It wouldn't be DOA if it wasn't so goddamn slow. Like I feel like the gameplay was designed for alzheimer's patients. The gameplay is SO SLOW, it feels like I'm wading through waste high peanut butter.

Conversely Fortnite is amazing and Overwatch is pretty fun. Battleborn is objectively shit.
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>>333890703
Well, Paragon is by Epic. Have you played UT lately? That's as slow as shit too.
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>>333890089
Max is a cute ! CUTE !
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>>333890845
>Have you played UT lately? That's as slow as shit too
Nah I play UT as well nightly. It is plenty fast in the mutator matches I frequent.
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Paragon is already dead, I hope Battleborn isn't DOA though, the beta is really fun when you can actually fucking get into it. Overwatch seems pretty solid too.

Kind of rooting for both in the hope of one of them spawning imitators.
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>>333891956
I've never been as confident about a game bombing as Battleborn.
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Nah. Blizz will make their money back with preorders alone by the time open beta ends. Besides, they have massive amounts of people that will buy anything Blizz makes. Strangely enough, these people seem to also really fucking hate Blizzard.
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>>333890845
Which UT? 99 is fairly fast, 2k4 too, IIRC UT3 is pretty slow and I don't know about the new one.
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>>333884918
>game made by blizzard
>coming out on PC,PS4 and Xbox one
>advertising going crazy

If 1 thing is 100% sure is that this game will make millions, doesn't matter if you like it or hate it.
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It could flop. HotS did.
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>>333892103
You're probably right sadly. It's by far the least hyped of the games releasing around this time.
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>>333892676
hots didn't flop its just isn't big as dota or lol
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>>333884918

These threads feel like Blizzard interns fishing for potential problems with their new game. It will flop as a esports discipline, intern.
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>>333884918
I doubt it desu, it's a fun game and it has a strong waifu foundation. It's not going to get huge but it'll be like TF2 and chug along for a long time with a steady amount of players.
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>>333892676

HoTS makes so much revenue, it's hardly a flop.

It's just not big on twitch.
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>>333892503
there are people who do the same thing to GW products.
they hate them as a company but they like their products
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>>333885379
It's the design. Everything just seems way too floaty and disorganized. It has no clear theme
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>>333893557
The modest ardent dedicated fans are often the biggest and most vocal critics. It's a bit weird. Abusive relationships, I guess
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>>333890394
>Honestly, the console version is probably the better game than the current PC version, that's how much Valve fucked the game up.
uh, no, it's not. not even close.
nice meme though
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>>333893686
most vocal critics yes.
but considering they are like now the #5 on the popularity of mini games and still dropping many other people are feeling GW's stupid business practices.
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>>333894352
Much of the content makes the game worse, just piles of complete shit, which has massive drowned out the quality content they added early on.

Plus Valve never managed to solve the fundamental Demoman/Soldier balance issues that have existed since day #1.
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>>333894731
You are fucking retarded. You're literally trying to say here that a version without core class features like moving buildings or airblast, with 500% less playstyles with no unlocks, with a fucking HUNDRED less official maps, less voice lines, less gamemodes, less fucking everything and a million gamebreaking bugs that were never fixed is better because you don't like cosmetic hats. You are an absolute fucking moron and I despise you.
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>>333894987
It's not just cosmetic hats, it's the endless shitty weapons and awful maps that fuck with the gameplay and has totally killed the community. Valve has taken arguably the greatest multiple FPS ever made and turned it into a genuinely awful game, single-handedly demonstrating the problem with F2P and "games as a service".
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>>333887517
>I just think the audience for this sort of shit is wildly different from their other shit.
Do you think people said that when they made an MMO out of an RTS? Or a card game?
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>>333895223
No, you're just an idiot. The game is better than it has ever been.
I can understand people complaining about games like WoW getting worse, but TF2 hasn't changed in gameplay since release except for getting better and getting more content but faggots like you will still keep parroting bullshit because you love being a hipster and belonging to what you perceive the cool club while everyone else is having fun.
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>>333884918

It's a flop in spirit but Blizzdrones will buy it and billions in DLC dress-up costumes

Never underestimate the whipping power of waifushit
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>>333894987
Where in his post does he say the only content he dislikes is the cosmetic hats?

And personally yeah I'd also pick vanilla TF2 over its current version, despite it having received a bunch of good additions throughout the years (not airblast and movable buildings though, fucking christ).
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>>333886278
So it'll be the third tier FPS game like Hots is the the third tier assfaggot?
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>>333895223
>has totally killed the community.
>Third most played game in steam
>Maps are made by community all the time
>One community project is being planned to be a possible update
Define "dead".
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>>333895496
TF2 added a ton of garbage weapons, awful maps (literally the only good community map is Steel, and even that really needed design tweaks by professionals to improve navigation) and poorly-designed cosmetic garbage and weapons fucked the look of the game. Quality over quantity. The only people playing it re F2P players, who are notoriously awful people because of demographics, flooding the game with kids and Russians.

I can't believe people are defending TF2 in 2016. What Valve did to an amazing game is a fucking travesty.
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>>333888352
>>60 bucks for the version that is less likely to get updates
Except Diablo on PS4 and Xbone are still getting updated at the same time as PC.
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>>333895496
I dropped the game sometime in 2013 because the way the game was going, am I a hipster even though I enjoyed a lot of the updates even past F2P?
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It's by blizzard, it basically can't flop, even if it's trash.
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>>333885974
i want her to sit on my face!
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>>333884918
Considering a shit fuck metric ton of people signed up for the beta, no, this won't "flop."
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It's trying pretty hard to be a TF2 killer, and I've noticed that the hype has died down a lot. So I'd say so.
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>>333896242
The game is alive but the old TF2 community has fucked off, replaced by awful people who like the game that TF2 is in 2016. The type of people who play CS/DOTA. TF2 probably had the best games community of any game in its first few years because the cartoony nature and cost put off all the tryhard asshole and kids.
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>>333896321
You just got bored of it and got bitter over the years of being a virgin.
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>>333896321
>The only people playing it re F2P players
gee, guess those half a million gun mettle passes sold were just everyone's imagination then
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>>333897250
There are a lot of people playing it but they're awful people.

See also: Counter-Strike, which is undeniably hugely popular but attracts cancerous assholes like flies to shit
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>>333897250
>Didn't take part in Gun Mettle
>Cases were selling for like five bucks each
>Decided to take part in Tough Break
>Cases get sold for three cents if you're lucky
At least I was lucky enough to get the decent skins...I guess...
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>>333897403
so now you moved the goalposts from only F2P to only awful people? got any more bullshit you want to pull out of your ass?
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It's gonna be casual shit, but it's gonna be the most popular FPS for awhile. It hurts, but that's the way it's gonna be.
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>>333897550
They were like 20 cents at the start, but a day later they raised to more than a dollar. Fuck if I know why, I made my cash back anyhow.
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>>333885379
>HEY GUYS COME PLAY SOMETHING THAT ISN'T COD OR HALO
>NO FUCK YOU
>(insert game here) has flopped
Rinse repeat into infinity.
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>>333896730

bullshit

i started playing when i was like 10

around scout update

when trading came out i managed to make a few hundred dollars, shame the economy is rip now
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>>333896627
>trying to kill a f2p game with a paid game

Yeah that's really going to work.
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>>333897058
Not him, but no I did not, the game got significantly worse.
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>>333897831
jesus christ this post
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>>333897403
>See also: Counter-Strike, which is undeniably hugely popular but attracts cancerous assholes like flies to shit
you are the cancer
get good
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>>333897831
>16 years old
>Literally underage
Enjoy your ban kiddo.
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>>333884918
there's nothing surprising about it if it did flop. It wont because gamers are hungry and haven't learned that blizzard abandoned them years ago.
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>>333898086

maybe 11 or someshit

idefk when scout update came out

sure as hell wasn't 2011/12
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>>333898086
TF2 came out 9 years ago fucktard
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>>333897949
It's literally the same game except with a lot of shitty weapons that noone uses and hats.
>bb-b-b-ut the communtiy is dead!!!
No you just got older.
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>>333898076
I've literally hated CS and its community since I first played it in like 2002. I genuinely don't understand how it's still so popular in 2016, the novelty of faux-realism is long gone, and the mechanics are as dated as fuck.

I guess to a large extent "it's cheap and runs on a potato which appeals to 3rd worlders".
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>>333898181
Scout Update came out in 2009.
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>>333898448
>dated mechanics
That's weird, I could swear you are 12 years old but the 2002 part seems to imply you aren't.
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>>333898448
because its a really good team shooter
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>>333896531
But then you would smell her butt!
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>>333898448

counter strike is fucking cancerous

at least it's not dota though

>counter-strike: memorize one of two maps, then play the same thing a thousand times
>dota: memorize one map, then play the thing a thousand times

the worst thing is the cash farming
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>>333898565
The CS audience has always been primarily teenagers. I seriously doubt there's many people in their 30s still playing it.
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>>333898447
is there a video of this gif?
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>>333885149
>117 people online
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>>333898728
imagine the smell...
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>>333898448
CS is like broodwar and quake if you care about the more competitive side. The casual side is casual as fuck.

Coming from somebody who played the fuck out of just about every fps, CS is a black hole of shit you can constantly learn and improve on. Really tiny things you can learn and implement that will give you an edge.

Way the fuck better maps for more serious competitive play than Insurgency, RO2, and CoD pro mod.
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>>333898791
I play with a 30 year old, a 42 year old. I'm 26.

Higher levels of ranked, and esea has more mature people. The lower ranks and casual modes are infested with teenagers.
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>>333898447
So it's the same game, but covered with visual diarrhea and with a lot of terrible weapons (that people do use, so stop making shit up)

Don't forget the bad changes to core mechanics!

In a nutshell, you have no clue what you're talking about.
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>>333899230
>that people do use, so stop making shit up
Okay, so how does that make the game worse?
>Don't forget the bad changes to core mechanics!
Oh please do elaborate, I want to have a laugh
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>Will it be a flop
Look at HotS.
That's a total failure (is kinda fun on occasion), but it's still chuffing along. Blizzard fans will not let their shit die.
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Blizzard games dont flop.

The type of consumers they target will always buy their games. And although this isnt an enormous group of people, they are people who are loose with their wallets and love to pay for anything Blizzard shits out no matter how greedy or ridiculous it is.

Everyone else they have been actively alienating over the past few years with shit like the hearthstone paywall and WoW micro-transactions. I'd say they are right where they want to be.

TL;DR - they dont want people who arent retarded with their money playing their games.

Overwatch isnt going to break any sales records but they will stay make more than they deserve for the effort theyre going to put into it.
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>>333884918
If anything I feel it can't be applied to Overwatch.

I feel like Paragon and Battleborn will be DOA BECAUSE of how semi-successful Overwatch will be.
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>>333892676
>still around after months since release
>tournaments being aired on ESPN
>flop
yeah
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>>333899701
This

Blizzard has this shit down to a science. Their games literally cannot flop with the amount of precision their games are designed with.
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>>333885440
>>333885985
Street Fighter 5 is the most recent example. After SF4 gave the entire genre its second wind, the heavily anticipated sequel ended up being outsold by Pokken.
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>>333889454
Comp is screwed. MM games are 20tick while custom can be 60 tick.
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>>333900894
I only play 128 tick in CS over valves normal MM. Custom can only go up to 60? I can't imagine how shit 20 tick feels.
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Esports is such a forced meme, basically no-one gives a shit about competitive gaming, it's a tiny niche. I mean, fuck, it was more of a real thing like a decade ago than it is today.
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>>333899918
>Blizzard has this shit down to a science.

They really do. Their marketing sector is second to none. I remember reading a while back about how they hired psychologists to advise them or marketing strategies. And oddly enough, this was right around the time hearthstone started to gain popularity. Which was really intriguing to watch honestly. Its actually genius what they did with Hearthstone.

I'd guess that one of the pieces of advice the psychologist gave them was that its easier to milk and please a small group of retards than it is to milk and please a large group of intelligent people.
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No. Paragon and Battleborn are flops BECAUSE of overwatch.
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>>333901389
they are flops because they are shit
I knew paragon was DOA the moment I first watched the trailer, it's a game trying to capitalize on the moba trend but this time with LE EPIC graphics, which obviously will fail
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>>333897831

>i started playing when i was like 10
>around scout update

>fitting the stereotypical underage/NEET loser TF2/CSGO player that plays the steambux game, not the FPS game.
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>>333899370
I'm not that other dude, but are you seriously saying that shit like the beggar's bazooka, phlogistinator, and the universal weapon switch speed increase don't harm the game?
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>>333902048
Yes
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I am legitimately amazed that anyone thinks Overwatch is going to flop.

It's the same people who thought Hearthstone was going to flop cause it was too casual.
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>>333902207
except hearthstone is incomparable since it's free and OW is 60 burgerbucks
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>>333902385
I'm not saying Overwatch is comparable to Hearthstone. I'm just saying that /v/ is probably the last place to see an accurate prediction of the industry.
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>>333902207
But Hearthstone is garbage and is only popular because it's so casual. Everyone plays the same 3 decks so once you learn how to make good decisions then it's all down to draw rng.
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i don't really give a fuck about overwatch aside for the porn i get of it

i sure wouldn't pay $60 for it
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>>333901880
Battleborn is fun desu senpai
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>>333901254

a decade ago I think you still had Quake fags and you got get motionsick just WATCHING them play.

nowadays you have a bunch of neckbeards playing some shitty boring casualfest, and you ask yourself WHY? it's the same as an LP, except they're uglier than Pewdiepie who is a dreamboat and le so funneh xDDD!
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>>333889797
it's $60 on console and comes with the origins edition benefits

standalone PC version is $40
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>>333902762
nobody gives a fuck about it, the characters are unlikeable and the story is almost nonexistent and extremely cliche, the cinematics are kiddy dreamworks-tier, the gameplay is shallow press Q to kill everything in sight bullshit and skill-based movement doesn't exist
it's a casual game for casuals
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>>333886278

How did HOTS flop? It replaced Smite
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>>333902735
>and is only popular
ok
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>>333884918
>Similar games in Paragon and Battleborn look DOA

Why exactly does Battleborn look DoA?
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when was the last time that a game flopped because /v/ didn't like it?

isn't the opposite way more true?
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>>333901349
>Its actually genius what they did with Hearthstone.
Do you have a link that elaborates on that? I did not follow Hearthstone at all but I'm interested in how they marketed it.
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>>333884918
Overwatch is the game that TF2 players want to play now that TF2 is basically unplayable. It isn't going anywhere. It helps that the porn will always be relevant.
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>>333890067

And look what happened, consoles got the definitive version of TF2
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>>333886278

No you're a completely idiot. The MOBA market is completely saturated. The FPS market however is not.

Most of the people I know who love FPS have been waiting for something that isn't TF2 or COWADOOTY.

This adds more depth with classes/abilities.

This is going to be a wildly successful game. All of the issues most of you have brought up in this thread are mostly made up. I understand this is /v/, and we need to shit talk video games here.

Game is gonna do well. /Thread.
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>>333890242

May 3rd is open for pre-orders, may 5th is open beta (the servers will likely crash)
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>>333903363
HotS isn't even a flop. It's highly financially successful as stated in their quarterly reports.
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>>333903020
No it didn't, Smite is more populated than HOTS. It has a healthier twitch audience as well.
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>>333903298
OW is nowhere near comparable with TF2.
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>>333903470
/v/ literally only cares about twitch, e-celebs, and youtube popularity

if your game isn't touted around by all the e-celebs they follow, then it apparently flopped
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>>333903363
this is a shill if I've ever seen one
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>>333902735
It's garbage gameplay, but it's making fucking bank. It's basically a mobile game with polish, and it's pulling in huge revenue quarter after quarter. It's nowhere near a failure.
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what wrong with battleborn? I thought it was pretty fun
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>>333903514
Modern TF2 isn't even comparable with Orange Box TF2. Overwatch is closer to Orange Box TF2 than modern TF2 is.
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>>333903363
>Most of the people I know who love FPS have been waiting for something that isn't TF2 or COWADOOTY.

Oh yeah sure, they "love FPS" and only know about TF2 and CoD. Fuck right off.
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>>333903851
You are stupid.
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>>333886278

There is no chance this game flops. HotS isn't even a flop, and it goes against two of the most popular games of all time. I mean that is really something. And now Overwatch is releasing in a market that has no dominant class based shooter. Just like Hearthstone, Overwatch will have a monopoly on the genre and make insane money.
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>>333884918
no way jose
the characters alone guarantee at least a modest success
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I wonder if they'll notice all the porn. I wonder if they'll notice how well it promoted the game.
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since sc2 has a fan made vn should overwatch have one too
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>>333903784
Overwatch is being marketed better is all. I enjoyed the beta too but I can see it flopping financially
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I'd be surprised if it didn't flop.
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I believe to bump.
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>>333905257
There's no way it could though.
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>>333904938
>implying Blizzard isn't stealth-funding all the SFM porn patreons
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>>333905257
I bet its already made a profit off preorders.
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8 million people signed up for the beta, OP. I would honestly be amazed if it somehow didn't cross 1 or 2 million sales at least.
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