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Reboots done right general? or a thinly veiled R&C remake
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Reboots done right general? or a thinly veiled R&C remake general, if you're more inclined to it

Sony is really pushing the boundaries in terms of graphics with their exclusive games. It's amazing what they can do with the PS4, which isn't even a high end machine.
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I really want the remake to be good, if it does good we might get new Jak and daxter games or sly Cooper games. Other than that, I'm looking forward to the great humor like the original game had
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>>333883062

I got a review copy and it's great. I'm so happy, because I really didn't like Sly 4.
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>>333883062
>wanting another Jak game from Naughty "mature games for mature gamers" Dog.

They've forgotten what fun means. I'd rather them not touch what was once great.
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>>333883062
>new Jak and Daxter

You'd be better off wishing for a cure for cancer. They're "too mature" for stylized games.
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>Sony is really pushing the boundaries in terms of graphics with their exclusive games

Yeah, their pre-rendered bullshots are amazing!
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>>333884080

It doesn't have to be Naughty Dog, they could give it to another 1st party studio, like Sony did with Sly.

>>333884116

In-game, son.
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>>333881507
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>>333884638
More like top is ps4 and bottom is pc.
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>>333881507
>4 hours game
>30 fps
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>>333883654
pls tell me the music is good
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Did they gave up on making game-rendered cutscenes? They're just a bunch of mouthing muppet dolls loosely syncing with the voices. What happen to the cartoony facial expressions of the PS2 games? Even the Future games had something going on. What the fuck, Insomniac.

I'm still gonna buy this game. But fucking hell, that was stupid.
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>>333887109

I really enjoy it, but some people don't like it because it's more orchestral now.
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>>333887201
Took a toll on the engine
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>>333887201

Cartoony faces are still in.
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>>333887201
The movie came about because Insomniac has been trying since the first R&C to make a playable Pixar movie. Like that's been their goal all along. So now they're getting the chance to make a Pixar-tier film to accompany an equally pixar-tier looking game. They're probably over the moon about it

pun intended
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>>333887201
>muppet dolls loosly syncing with the the voices

man i was so hype until i saw that. I was gonna fucking suck up my mustardrice pride and buy a ps4 but that shit.... its fucking inexcusable.
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>>333887637
they were making a film at the same time, you know

the two things are very large timesinks
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>>333881507
>game not out
>game not shown in finished state
>no one finished the game yet
Why the fuck, are you faggots praising games before ANY of that?
WHY?
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>>333887742
they shouldnt have let one fuck the other up though. Like, the animation was one of the best parts of the original games, why remake it if you're just gonna fuck up one of its most charming features?
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>>333884263

>It doesn't have to be Naughty Dog, they could give it to another 1st party studio, like Sony did with Sly.

Sanzaru's not a 1st party studio

And Sly 4 happened because Sanzaru wanted to make the sequel (just like how a couple of guys wanted to make Hardware: Rivals and the new Shadow of the Beast reboot and those happened)

Sony's not gonna throw the IP at a random studio; if some studio is interested in making a new Jak, it'll happen only then
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>>333888169
I don't know if you noticed but the other 99% of the game looks fucking gorgeous. So I'll live.
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>>333887280
What a shame, the levels had this sense of chaos when you're thrown into a blazing firefight
>>333887280
It's always been that way, it was just the one or two off levels like Notak - Canal City that a techno beat to compliment the sound
https://youtu.be/oy8OFqP2O-c?t=1h41m27s
>>333887637
Allow me to break your childhood
https://youtu.be/unpTCMpXQnw?t=16m14s

For real though, I see the potential out of this game and I bet it's real fun and all, but I wanna shake someone down for letting this slide. Also the card system gimmick sounds like a horrible idea. Just make the gold weapons appear somewhere else since they took out the OG level where it was originated. And I'll be happy collecting gold bolts for them.

Anyone feel like they modernized/casualized this game to the ground? It's like it was made for DSP-type of players who couldn't go past a single level without dying. The health from venders I found extremely unnecessary.
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>>333888201
why don't we just make it? we as in /v/
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>>333888417
I realized I replied to an anon twice in the same post. I must be fucking retardedly mad today.
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>>333888069

It IS out for some of us. It's really fun.
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>>333888417
Of course they did. The target audience is going to be mainly kids who saw the movie.

Ratchet fans will coast through it obviously, but on Challenge Mode or Legendary it could be good.

are there more skill points?
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>>333888201
>Sony's not gonna throw the IP at a random studio
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>>333888069

pic related
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>>333888267
I noticed and appreciate it but just.. i can't.

>>333888417
>Allow me to break your childhood

you sick bastard you got me to watch it again
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>>333888919
>Spic
Disgusting
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>>333881507
Nice. Now let's compare their frame rates.
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>>333888417
>Allow me to break your childhood
>https://youtu.be/unpTCMpXQnw?t=16m14s

What am I supposed to be seeing here?
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>>333881507
>done right
Barely acceptable. Their tying it too hard to the movie it gets in the way of the clever game design and polish it originally had.
>card system for minor buffs and RYNO holoplans
>Zurkon
>weapons are given to you based on how much ass can you kick per second than to be situational to the enemies you face and approach you make
>you will never have a valid reason to pull out the visibomb, suck cannon, or taunter when you can cheese with the standard formula shotgun, pistol, and bomb combo +zurkon shitter
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>>333889481
Nah I'm a curry nigger. Get it right.
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>>333890194
>you will never have a valid reason to pull out the visibomb, suck cannon, or taunter
I thought those 3 weapons were removed from the game to make place to meme weapons like Zurkon and pixel gun?
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>>333885383
Are you stupid?
The foliage is horrendous
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>>333890241
>Portuguese
Nah senpai, you're a spic.
Most likely a BR monkey.
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>>333885383
NEVER EVER
>>333885562
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>>333890194

what's wrong with the holocards
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>>333890157
Ouch. The writing and animations in the cut scenes are terrible.
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I didn't know it was a Reboot, might actually get it since I never played any of them.

>>333885562
30 fps is fine.
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>>333890393
Not him, but that's spanish, retard.
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>>333890241
How long would you say the game is?

Were the claims that the story is fucked because it assumes you've seen the movie and glosses over scenes from it true?
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I haven't played an R&C game since Up Your Arsenal. Would this be a good way to return to the series?
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>>333890157
the dead faces in the dialogue scenes.

If you played the originals you would know know
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>>333890556
I don't see how it's any worse than any other cartoony platformer.

Maybe I just have low standards. Which would explain why I'm still able to enjoy video games unlike 99% of /v/.
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>>333890645
No
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>>333890645
Yeah, definitely.

You should look into playing the PS3 Future Trilogy too if you like it though, I think they're all on PSNow if you don't have one.
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>>333890609

That's portuguese, though.

>>333890621

I'm the one who posted that pic. The story isn't fucked because the movie will have a conventional storytelling while the game is told from Captain Qwark's point of view.
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>>333884638
Is it just me or does it look like the PS3 games?
Difference is ToD and aCiT ran at 60fps
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>>333890756
Sweet, that was my only real concern.
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>>333890621
>>333890756

I also don't know how long the game is cause I'm still at the beginning.
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>>333888069
Because paid shills keep making this Same thyread with the Same bullshots
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>>333890870
No, it's because they've already played the fucking game because they got it early. You'd know that if you'd read the thread nigger.

>>333888919
>>333888736
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>>333890825
It's just you, I only finished replaying the Future Trilogy + Nexus last month and the new game looks far better based on released gameplay footage - crisper picture quality, better lighting, higher res textures, etc.

30fps is noticeable in comparison tho, but for me it ain't a deal breaker.
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>>333890693
The original's humor was pretty much for all ages, but this reboot's humor seems targeted at children.
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>>333890825

Tools has aged hard, Crack less so.
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>>333890756
>That's portuguese, though.
Being from fucking Portugal I would know if it is. Stop being retarded.
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>>333881507
You've grown up OP, you're not their target audience anymore.

Don't be surprised if the game disappoints you.
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>>333885562
The demo ran at like 20, maximum. Physically uncomfortable. Shame, R&C collection on ps3 is great.
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Why is it that every single thread about a new game on /v/ is filled with people who have no interest in or plans to play the game trying to kill the hype and shit all over everything for the people who are actually looking forward to it?

I swear for all the bitching about SJWs /v/ does they act just like them.
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>>333890157
Look at the in-game cutscenes. No real animations than just them mouthing out-of-sync dialogue and standing in place, the unnecessary camera shots going back and forth between the characters even if they aren't talking or even making any ACTUAL EXPRESSIONS AT ALL.

It's lazy. Not even the pixar like cinematography they were aiming for either.

>>333890376
And you see my point. They'll take out resourceful thinking out your arsenal for more gag and flashy toys.

>>333890447
Another collectible side quest to make you fetch for slight buffs on weapons, bolts/raritanium rate, and the RYNO. "adding" more unnecessary gameplay time.
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>>333890602
>30fps is fine

anon please, your judgement is clouded by the mass of 30fps slideshows being released this gen
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>>333890986
Yea Yeah shilly shillerson. Im sure thats why you made the Same thread 4 Times Today, using the exact Same bullshots and arguments every time
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>>333881507
>>333884263
>>333884638
>>333887201
>>333887398

Looks great. Might be time to get a PS4.
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>>333891232
>30fps

dude get out of here
average big budget game clocks in at around 22fps tops
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>>333884638
I feel like the bottom one should be more impressive than it is
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>>333891138

Holocards are random drops outside of the RYNO set. You'll probably be able to find them all by playing through the game normally. It's hardly an issue.
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>>333891342
true
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>>333891135
First day here? There are over 90% of hype killer threads in this place everyday. Just build your own expectations based on what you've seen, unlike most of these people.
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>>333891135
It's what we do here. /v/ exists for shitposting and insulting each other, typically on topics that have nothing to do with the video game the thread was started about. /v/ is not for actual video game discussion.
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>>333891372

I think it looks pretty good.
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>>333884638
is it weird that i like the older trees better, they are reminiscent of something out of a looney toons set.
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>>333890756
>>333891074
Wait, I'm retarded. That's definitely BR portuguese, we don't use that word so much here
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I hope Sly Cooper gets this treatment for his movie.
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>>333888850
But those kids aren't stupid, I played and beaten R&C 2 when I was around 7 or 8, there's no need to suddenly dumb it down as of 2016.

>>333891296
Wait for that rumored PS4 upgrade rumor. I hear it has higher specs and storage space or some shit, then get yourself some other exclusive while you're at it.
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>>333891559

What is written in your PS4 covers?
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>>333891575
You mean retcon everything, remove half of the content and made on the cartboard box budget?
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>>333891575
I doubt it will, unless the Sly 4 crew have been keeping it hush hush and an announcement comes at E3.

Which would be pretty fucking cool, admittedly.
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>>333881507
I wanna get into the series.
What's the best way?
I have a PS2 and a PS4.
No PS3.
Anything on PSN?
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>>333891501
Meh
Looks about as good as Knack.
I find it funny how Insomniac's Xbone game looks so much better.
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>>333891783

Sly is getting a movie in 2017, so it would make sense to get a Sly reboot announcement this E3. Actually, they might wait to see how well R&C does before spending money with Sly.
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>>333891849

Original Trilogy + Deadlocked
I think the Future series and Nexus are on PSNow
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>>333888856
Those guys were ex Insomniac and had previously made two kind of okay Ratchet and Clank games. No one knew they would screw up THAT bad.
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>>333891849

Why don't you start with the reboot which is made for people like you who want to get into the series? If you enjoy it, then you could go back to the original trilogy and PS3 one.
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>>333891684
Só na
And a retarded little icon in some games saying it has subtitles or voices in portuguese to boot
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>>333891849
Play the OG trilogy, then deadlocked (basically release order excluding the psp spinoff ports). Come back in a month or so and then ask if this remake game worth it or judge it yourself.
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>>333892243
Cool it comes out in 2 days.
I'll probably buy it digitally.
Hope it's fun.
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>>333892221
Do you guys say "a consola" or something?
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>>333881507
>Reboots done right
>Its been downgraded to 30fps
No
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>>333892221

Does reading "somente para" feel really weird to you? Because that's what I feel when I read "Só na" in your cover.
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>>333892439
Obviously? Consoles are girls, it even ends with A in consola.
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>>333892439
Yeah. "a playstation 4"

>>333892550
Kinda. We use somente, but it's unusual and somewhat old fashioned
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>Reboots done right
Not with that dialogue, or that FPS.
This is one of those games where you can actually notice the difference too, it's not like it's an rpg or something. You actually have to move around a lot.
You want a reboot or remake done right look at REmake, still the best example of a remake to date.
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Doom
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>>333893616
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>>333893732
You can't just dismiss any kind of criticism with shitty reaction images. If you have some counter to it then feel free to say it. Otherwise you might as well admit I'm right now.
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>>333893846
the more you post the more stupid you are
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>>333894050
kek, glad to see you can't defend yourself. Aight.
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>>333891959
>>333891783
Yup, and Sucker Punch has been hush hush since Fetch DLC last year. So they have been making something, and a big return to finish the Sly IP off for the movie would be a good send off
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>>333884116
>comparing two completely different scenes in different lighting condition and different wetness.
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>>333891074
>somente
That's not even a word in spanish, it's "solamente".
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>>333884116
>>333895543

It doesn't even matter, because they're all from pre-rendered cutscenes
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>>333891135
PCucks shit post because they can't play the
game, so they convince themselves that the game is shit and they are missing nothing.
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>>333890747
>I think they're all on PSNow if you don't have one
>PSNow
>paying $10 to rent some shit for a few hours
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>>333896498
Pre-rendered or higher-res models? Naughty Dog is known for doing a lot of cutscenes in-engine using touched up textures then switching back to lower quality models after its over.
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>>333898139
On the Ps3 they did. But they have made no mention of this in the few trailers or interviews so far.

Most people are going off the trainwreck that was Order1633 which all the trailers showed in-game engine rendered cutscenes, just not on a PS4 but on a higher spec machine in-house.
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Hope they bring back Slim Cognito for the next reboot.
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>>333888069
F
Rip in peace.
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>>333900432

Slim's already in the reboot.
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I just pre ordered the game.

Loved playing it as a kid
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looks pretty shit desu senpai
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I saw a stream earlier, looks great and
>you can make pretty much everyone dance, including tanks
Gonna buy it when its out
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>>333891939
It looked better while being boring and annoying. Not even my 5 year old liked Sunset Overdrive.
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>>333901201
Aww, your wife's son didn't enjoy it?
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>>333884116
go back shoving mario's dick up your ass faggot
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>ps4 gets a new exclusive
>stale greentexts start popping up left and right
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Why is this allowed?
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>>333901657
/v/ will keep forcing the ps4 has 1 game meme for a long time, just like ps3 has no games meme
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>>333901870
DELETE THIS

Seriously the PS2 came out 16 years ago. It was the weakest of its gen (not really counting Dreambaby).

16 years later, with like 40x the amount of RAM, on Hardware that is the strongest of its generation, a "supercharged PC" if you will. How is it unable to run a cartoony game, a SINGLE PLAYER game like that at only 30fps?

How? Are Insomniac even making it? Their philosophy always used to be 60fps, at least until Sony seemed to tell them to stop.

Well at least the game looks nice.
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>>333887201
>they didn't bust their asses doing amazing Pixar quality facial animation for unimportant npc interactions

Am I supposed to be disappointed? The syncing is good enough and the graphics still look incredible. Stop expecting the world from developers.
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>>333881507
wait theres a new ratchet and clank coming out? i thought there was a movie but theres a game too? i hope its good. ratchet and clank was one of my favs as a kid
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I own and have completed the trilogy, I will own deadlocked tonight, I own size matters, I own the future trilogy and nexus. Any other games I should play?
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>>333902140
the hell are you talking about, the dreamcast wasn't weak
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>expecting the framerate to be solid
>especially after into the nexus ran at a silky smooth 10fps constantly
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Have the R&C games aged well? I remember playing them a long time ago and want to replay them.
What's the best way to play them?
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>>333887201

Looked it up and... wow. Hype is kill
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>>333902709

The first lacks all the improvements the later titles brought, but is alright on its own.
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>>333902468
I heard secret agent clank wasn't half bad.
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>>333894050
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>>333902709
The first game has aged kinda poorly, but starting with Going Commando I think they're still fun and look reasonably good.

Simplest way is to get the HD trilogy on PS3, then grab the Future games for dirt cheap since all but Into the Nexus are at least a few years old.
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>>333902284
>Stop expecting the world from developers.
I'm expecting the same quality and effort given the small breaks in action the was present in a 10+ year old series. This was just pathetic on their part.
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