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Why does /v/ say the PS2 is the best console of all time?
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if you only focus on the negatives every console is the worst console of all time
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You trust reviews?
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What did you hope to achieve by making this thread?
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>>333850925
So you're literally implying the ps2 is better than the colecovision, atari 2600, snes, genesis, and ps1? fucking CLASSIC consoles with TIMELESS games?

most ps2 games are outdated, clunky, and ugly now. super mario world, zaxxon, and beamrider feel like sliding on a glove.
no you're wearing fucking nostalgia blinders.

there are still millions of games coming out that get consistently high metacritic scores, user reviews, and steam reviews.

far cry 4, witcher 3, bloodborne, klaus, halo 5, rainbow six siege, street fighter 5, sunset overdrive, forza 6, forza horizon 2, shadow of mordor, dyig light, mad max, smash bros wii u, donkey kong tropical freeze, batman arkham knight, etc. then there's kingdom hearts 3, final fantasy 15, last guardian, dragon quest xi, yakuza 0, gravity rush 2, uncharted 4, gears of war 4, for honor, gran turismo 7, ace combat 7, ni no kuni 2, star ocean 5, etc. coming out.

Many of those ps2 games in OP pic are regarded as "hidden gems" and "classics" here, but they're really a bulk of clunky shit compared to the stuff coming out now. you're just too fucking blind to see and have no foresight for the future.
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>10 years after it was replaced by the PS3 people still gets mad over the PS2

Success breeds jealousy
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>>333851053

Did you seriously make this thread just for the opportunity to post this half-baked copypasta?
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This was the time when 7/10 wasnt a bad review
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>>333850796
holy fucking cherry picker.
I could fill a book full of shitty PC games, doesn't mean PC is shitty.
Ps2 was a great console.
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>>333851136
that doesn't explain how the ps2 is "THE BEST CONSOLE EVARR XD"
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>>333851153
Yes it does, there's no such thing as "best console" or "best gaming platform", its all undeniably shit. Stop this meme.
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>>333851153
no it was not. ps2 and ps1 created and pioneered he "movie" trend with narrow, cinematic games with lots of cutscenes. see mgs2 and mgs 3.
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>>333851053
again you're cherrypicking good current gen games. I could just as easily cherry pick good ps2 games.
Also you're comparig games from 15ish years ago to games today. No shit the technology is going to get better.

>Hurr durr the movies from 1901 are technological garbage compared to 2016

thats you.
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>reviews don't matter
>Unless they align with my shitposting

Why is /v/ so utterly disgusting?
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>>333850796
>implying most of the games on the list aren't original or creative.

Most games that are different/quirky/original/criative tend to have low review scores, this isn't anything new.
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>>333851215
Its the best due to the hundreds of games that arent in the OPs cherrypick image
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>>333851215
>XD
Literally everything you just said up to this point and everything you will say has now been without meaning
Good job
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Because a ton of PS2 games are actually good and are reviewed by casual cucks who don't play video games, plus it has a truly massive library full of most genres you have access too. Plus, there were a wide breadth of franchises that experimented in the PS2 era, like YGO and Duel Masters actually making attempts at decent games. It's the exact reason why I personally say the NDS was the best console ever made. A lot of fun games, a lot of experimental games, a lot of hidden gems and well-known classics, and a massive pool of titles to explore out of pure curiosity.

>>333851053
>BUY A PS4 PLEAAAASE
>I NEED OTHERS TO MASTURBATE OVER MY GREATNESS

I'm genuinely sick of other PS4 owners at this day and age. Owning this console is a blessing, in that a ton of great titles are indeed on their way, and a curse, because I have to be associated with legitimate retards like you. I'd advise you consume shotgun salad and spare this board your non-stop shitposting.
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>>333851262
>its all undeniably shit. Stop this meme.
then why are you on /v/? shouldn't you be on /b/
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>Cherrypicking: The thread
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>>333851327
>won't even admit that the ps2 was a great console

Your opinion isn't even valid. you must have not owned one or had no friends with one.
I'm sorry your family was too poor to afford it.

Also if you blame the ps2 for "pioneering movie trend" You're also fucking stupid, because thats not the consoles fault.

Also if that's all it takes to ruin a game for you then you're a miserable person. I'm so sorry for you.
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>>333851262
>all gaming platforms are shit

Why are you even on /v/
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>>333850796
>less than 3% of the entire library

>>333851053
>using high metacritic scores, user reviews, and steam reviews as an actual indicator when it comes to finding "hidden gem"

you are fucking retarded.
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>>333851423
I didn't say get a ps4. I'm saying the games out and coming out right now on average are better than a bulk of the ps2's "hidden gem" library. Witcher 3 alone blows out any fucking game on the ps2.
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>>333851262
>it's all shit

Yep, the average /v/ user
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It never stops to amaze me how different the scoring systems became when last gen started. Before PS3/360 it was rare to see games get 9/10 across the board but suddenly every gme with some money behind it was getting it.

I feel like lately it's getting back on track with more games scoring 70s and 80s.
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>>333851720
>Witcher 3 alone blows out any fucking game on the ps2.
Ahahahahaha nope.
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>>333851710
then explain to me precisely how any game on the ps2 is better than bloodborne, forza 6, or witcher 3.
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>>333851458

I really wish emulation for that game worked.

Kessen 1 and 2 were so fucking good. Never played Kessen 3.
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>>333850796
ps2 is just generic party based, turn based jrpgs with inferior multiplatform ports and shovelware.
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>>333851840
that's not an argument. construct an argument as to why any game on the ps2 is better than witcher 3.
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>>333850796

because it was faggot

get the ps2 and snes library, you'll be playing awesome games for a LONG time.
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>>333850796
It is honestly because the PS4 is the most popular console so /v/ is filled with so many fucking kids screaming about how Playstation was always the best.
When everything was pretty much 50/50 PS3/360 it was as bad and you could get a discussion about any game. But now the owners are offset and the One is only really selling in the US. I couldnt even get a Halo 5 thread on release to see how good the game was and I don't even have a Xbone.

>>333851423
Most journos back then were veterans of the industry and reviewed fairly because there wasn't so much money circling around. Review scores inflated, that is the real problem.
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>>333851720
you're comparig games from 15ish years ago to games today. No shit the technology is going to get better.

>Hurr durr the movies from 1901 are technological garbage compared to 2016

point is, at the time they were great. I felt good purchasing games during the ps2 era rather than feeling like shit buying games now because I know they'll shove dlc down my throat and the games are taken wayy to seriously.
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>>333851959
THISSS!!!!!

THANK YOUUUUUUUU!!!
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>>333851997
Shin Megami Tensei 3 alone is better than the Witcher 3.
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>>333851997
I found ps2 more fun. I've played through the entirety of the witcher 3 and dlc. I can tell you that I'd much rather play ratchet and clank up your arsenal.
I'd also rather invite friends over and play splitscreen war of the monsters than sit alone at my computer playing witcher 3 on a saturday night.
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>>333852004
the snes is overrated as well and overstuffed with jrpg's. for a console to be "the best", it has to have a diverse library and excel in each genre. genesis and dreamcast fits that category.
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>reviews

You're basing your opinions on people who give 9/10s to shit like Skyrim, Gone Home, The Witcher 3 and Dragon Age: Inquisition.
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Why are people replying to an obvious baiting thread?
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>/v/ hates the PS2 now
This board is shit.
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How do we stop the metacritic cancer, bros?
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>>333852169
in what way? repeating the same small choice of activities in the small pool of environments? poor writing with very stilted, flamboyant, and hammy dialogue? then dungeon-crawling in the same environment for the entirety of the game?

how in the world is persona 3 better than witcher 3?
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>>333850796
Kids who grew with PS2 already grown-ups, so majority of main /v/ audience says about their first console as the best console.
Kids who browse /v/ now won't even look at CV or Atari 2600 which mentioned >>333851053, they'll rather say what the shit they are. Whatever, I see more kids complaining now how SNES and Genesis are bad.
Wait ten more years, we'll have PS4 as the GOAT console. We can't do anything with it.
And the 4th gen is the greatest.
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>>333852365
lol I fucking hate you Playstation faggots rewriting history. Everything PS is shilled here so hard all day and the one time it isnt you bitch and moan. This is what happens when there's a literal PS4 monopoly and the only competition is the small as fuck PC gaming community.
>>333852482
Report Metacritic Threads.
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>>333851997
Superior musical score, better developed combat mechanics, more interesting characters. The only the The Witcher 3 has over Armored Core games is graffix and writing, and neither of those are particularly impressive in a video game.
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>>333852482
idk, you tell me.
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>>333852575

Oh look, it's a Dreamcast hipster.
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>>333850796
>wasting so much time to make weak bait
Holy autism batman
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el oh el
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>>333850796

You ever see a Nintenyearold so assblasted they spent an hour making a terrible shitpost?
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>>333852646
you are saying things that you prefer. that's not an argument. construct an argument.
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>>333852562
>SMT 3 and Persona 3 are the same

Almost got me, mate. You're good.
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>>333850796

>someone actually took the time to make this shitty image
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>>333852650
fuck yourself, kirby was fun
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because
>muh childhood

Gamecube had way better exclusives, even if there were less

Gotta admit though, Mercenaries 1 was on it and it was fucking great
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>>333852776
>a bad port is the third highest rated ps2 game
wew lad
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>>333852776
>sequels to franchises that were better on the ps1
>dudebroshit
>sports
>movies
>weebshit
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>>333850796
at least a quarter of those games are good, though?
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>>333852989
and xbox original had even better exclusives.
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>>333853054
how? construct an argument?

why does your opinion fucking matter?
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>>333850796

And I had way more with with these 'mediocre' games than I had with most modern "9/10" games.
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>>333852838
preferring witcher 3 is also not an arguement.
Saying witcher 3 is better is an opinion
Saying witcher 3 has better graphics is fucking stupid because it came out 14 years later.
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>>333852838
>You are saying things you prefer.
As are you, by saying "They aren't as good as The Witcher 3".
>That's not an argument
Yes it is, just as much as yours was.
>Construct an argument
You first, maybe I'll learn something today.
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>>333853239

Are you for real?
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>>333853006

>metacritic decides what games are good!
>those don't count, they're not good! It's about what the game is about, not the score!

Pick one, and only one.
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One of the greatest hidden gems of all time was on the PS2. It was so great, it was a major part of the Xbox 360's design
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>>333852646
To be fair, Witcher 3 has strong acting and characters.

I still can't handle Japanese acting. In the USA we tend to care about naturalistic acting. We want people to behave as they would in real life. Japan is still highly influenced by stage and kabuki acting where everything needs to be played up and overly dramatic to "sell" it. It makes me want to punch characters and be like, "STOP BEING WEIRD. JUST BE NORMAL."

I'm actually speaking far less about voice acting than I am physical acting. Japanese acting is influenced by their theatre traditions that are based in Noh and Kabuki styles of theatre. It is similar to the western practice of Comedia Del Arte. Western society abandoned those traditions a long time ago, though, as acting began to focus more on naturalism.
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The PlayStation 2 is the best console to ever exist.
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>>333853407
well how are current games today that constantly get high metacritic scores bad?

How is The Witness bad? How is Forza 6 bad? How is Just Cause 3 bad? How is Bloodborne bad? How is Sunset Overdrive bad?
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>>333854134

How are any of the games in the OP bad?
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I bought a PS3 at launch.
It took until Demon's Souls (EU release) until I found a game that equaled the experiences I had on the PS2.
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>>333853673
I've grown to utterly despise American acting nowadays for that specific "STOP BEING WEIRD. JUST BE NORMAL" mindset, actually. Acting out emotions is always something they tend to minimize, and a charismatic character with a very vocal attitude is always as subdued and minute as they can possibly be. It's fine when a character is in a situation where it's just two individuals talking, but when you're in a dramatic situation with emotions flaring, mumbling to someone else before barking at them for two seconds does not feel natural in and of itself. I get this CONSTANTLY in Western media, and it's precisely the reason why I've grown to detest it.

I miss characters who were exuberant and exaggerated, considering these are often works of fiction that we're following, and people in fiction, as well as people throughout history, have found themselves behaving in a manner that would not be considered "natural". Especially considering acting "natural" only works in situations and scenarios wherein you are only behaving naturally. Video games are legitimately the LAST place where acting "natural" should be common, unless your characters are in such disinteresting scenarios that everything they do is commonplace. Even characters who battle monsters on a common basis will have plenty of reason to roar at them before the battle starts and laugh triumphantly when they win. But for him to just shrug off that hard-fought battle and spout a witty one-liner before flipping his coat and tipping his fedora screams "I WANT TO ACT LIKE A SUPER COOL DUDE!!!" rather than "I feel that this battle was pivotal, and want to make a note of it casually."
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>>333854408
Ridge Racer 7 was better than Ridge Racer 5 on the ps2, and that was released in 2007.
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>>333852989
>Gamecube had way better exclusives,
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>>333854485
>I like japanese video games because they remind me of my animes XD

well then maybe japan is shit when it comes to all forms of media.
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>>333855039
>animes
>ironic XD
>Japan blanketing when relevant amounts of acting are handled sufficiently in Japan and Europe, but not in America

I'd rather you just not reply than spend time making yourself have even less of an argument.
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>>333852646
>Armored Core
>good

clunky controls, generic animmu characters, repetitive mission structure, barren environments, and reused assets does not a good game equal.
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>>333855213
>Japan blanketing when relevant amounts of acting are handled sufficiently in Japan and Europe, but not in America
this is a lie.
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>>333850796

But all those games are actually pretty good and innovative.
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>>333855647
>clunky controls
git
> generic animmu characters
Nobody is generic archetypes in Armored Core. Most of them are barely even characters.
>repetitive mission structure, barren environments
These are true, but the franchise isn't made for dynamic story paths with tons of NPCs.
>reused assets
Very sparingly, honestly. The only things that tend to be common are random objects on maps like "skyscraper" and the textures on factory walls, which would be strange if they made each and every one of them absolutely unique.

Beyond that, you have no complaints.
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>some degenerate spend his time making an epik bait image you can filter with two clicks of your mouse
kinda sad, don't you think, anon?
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>>333850796
Two things

One, the PS2 had a massive libary for a console, it offically ended in what? 2010-2011?

Two
There was a level of "quality" control in most games due to the nature of the appeal

There wasn't much of a "Casual" audience as compared to now, so you had to market it with some actually impressive/innovative game design while also being fun

Now days you can slap together some shit you found off of unity's free crapmomanic and get a 90
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>>333856723
but how does what you mentioned make the ps2 better than the dreamcast, 2600, colecovision, genesis, or turbografx16?
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>>333856935
I never said it was better per say

I'd wager its better than some

If we are talking emperical data you'd have to find every review for each game and then deduce it by how many positive versus negative and then ratio it out of games


The problem is that isn't going to happen, since shit like colecovision didn't have a metacritic back then so you'd have to do some sort of math problem to properly ratio that out and alot of the games back then were homemade/bootlegged so it might be inflated
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fuck ps2
ps1 was way better

then again, fuck everything, pc master race
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