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>>333841154
Aged like milk
>physics puzzles
>story slowed down the pacing far moreso that in Half-Life
>Pistol sounds weak as fuck
Came out in the same year as infinitely superior Painkiller and Chronicles of Riddick
>>333841154
not fun
looks bad
plays bad
no story
baby puzzles smashed into a bad shooter
and you fags wont shut the fuck up about it
>>333841154
>Find a flaw
3rd installment
>>333841484
Are you retarded?
>>333841154
>The vehicle sections are way too long
>Annoying physics puzzles early on
>Cliffhanger ending
Still god tier though
>>333841154
Combat.
>>333841154
Flaws? There are plenty:
Those stupid-as-fuck hunter bots where you have to catch their darts on something and throw it back at them to kill them efficiently.
That shitty final mission in episode ? where you have to throw giant sticky bombs onto the walkers.
The fact that there's no HL3 to wrap things up.
>>333841154
too much driving
shitty weapons
seesaw puzzles
shit story
shit characters
>>333841154
>less weapon and enemy variety than HL1
>worse AI and gunplay than HL1
>worse community and mods than HL1
>no true final boss
It's not a bad game, but I do feel like it having the Half-Life name propelled it up more than it deserved.
>>333841154
He doesn't talk.
>>333841716
>shit story
I disagree
>>333841154
It didn't expand on the story enough. Pretty fucked up stuff.
+ God tier atmosphere
+ God tier music
+ God tier pacing and level design
+ God tier grav gun
+ God tier mecha doge
- Shit tier gunplay
- Shit tier graphics
- Shit tier puzzles
- Shit tier driving
- Shit tier Alyx
it has nothing to do with half life 1 and yet the game is full of characters you supposedly know and you're hailed as a messiah of sorts
>>333841714
>Those stupid-as-fuck hunter bots where you have to catch their darts on something and throw it back at them to kill them efficiently.
Literally the best enemy in HL.
>That shitty final mission in episode ?
One of the best encounters in the series.
Your taste is truly terrible.
>>333842082
>>333841782
what is this "gunplay" meme everyone keeps spouting? You click the left mouse button and the character shoots, this is how it happens in every FPS, how can one be better than the other?
Not even baiting, just explain what's good gunplay and bad gunplay, Giving examples should suffice.
>>333842496
Something like Doom has good gunplay. Deus Ex has bad gunplay. It's about how mechanically satisfying the weapons are.
>>333842496
>what is this "gunplay" meme everyone keeps spouting
The weapons didn't have the same feel/sound nor punch as in HL1.
>>333841341
fully rendered
>>333841154
...it's shit.
Opposing Force was better.
>>333842496
Are you literally retarded?
>>333841154
Driving around the map to get to missions is a little tedious, as well as the car handling feeling wonky and unsatisfying, some of the physics puzzles are honestly kind of crap.
Great game though, Ravenholme is still fantastic and the guns all feel great. The graphics have aged fantastic, the only real complain I would be is that textures are high detail but don't really mesh with the lighting all that much, it's a game that looks great in screenshots but shows its age in movement.
>>333841154
And here we go...
Friendly Reminder:
>Linear
>Scripted
>Weak guns
>Harder difficulties, enemies are more bullet spongey.
>Enemies are dumb as rocks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WqAmuSXEQ
>Gravity Gun is a gimmickgimmick ['gJmJk]
n
1. something designed to attract extra attention, interest, or publicity
>pseudo-cutscenes
>At least a third of the game is driving.
>near non-existent story
>cinematic experience
>railroady
>did absolutely nothing new
>only helped with making the FPS genre into a stale piece of shit
>>333842803
>mfw Valve will never bring back the superior Adrian Shephard
Kill me
Shitty cut scenes and dialogue
>>333842646
this. the only satisfying guns in hl2 are the revolver, crossbow and pulse rifle
>>333842973
Shotgun for me instead of the pulse rifle, which I kind of hate (low ammo, huge fixed spread makes firing it so random past short range).
>>333842496
Good - FEAR, Unreal Tournament, Turok 2 loud and with a feeling of connection and impact. Lots of visual feedback that promotes the impression of using a powerful weapon.
Bad - Half-Life, Psychotoxic, Blood 2 tin cans dropping on the floor and minimal animation or sense of power.
>>333842803
Nah
>>333843172
The only gun that feels good in UT is Flak, though?
>>333841154
its not me in the cover
>>333843172
Thank you, a proper answer.
>>333842850
(You)
>>333841235
played it last year, only thing that feels aged is how how enemies receive damage
>>333843248
All the guns feel good in UT if you learn to use them properly, the rocket launcher feels fantastic.
>>333842950
Of course they wouldn't. There's no may-may value in a soldier but beardy-weirdy scientist man with glasses will get reddit's peckers moist.
Unskippable cutscenes where two people just talk back and forth for ten minutes.No, being able to jump around and throw shit at everybody doesn't make it not a cutscene or alleviate how annoying they are, fuck off.
>>333843248
The snipah has a nice kick imo.
Also the animation of the weird blue laser gun thingy makes it look less dangerous than it really is.
>>333842082
>graphics
it was mind blowing for it's time
>puzzles
retardedly simple puzzles are a stable of the series.
>driving
>inblygn
>alyx
>not liking the daughterfu
>>333843325
>2004
You're just projecting now
>>333843431
I remember sniper in Unreal actually feeling pretty strong. I also liked Lighting Gun in 2k3/2k4 purely because the headshot animation was funny.
>>333843334
There is no cut.
They are not cutscenes.
Regards.
>>333843489
Staple, anon, I don't think the game has stables.
>>333843172
>Good
Painkiller, all the weapons feel absolutely orgasmic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQiCk3d4sro
>>333843520
They're asking about a continuance of the series, not Half-Life 2's original release.
>>333843603
>>333843601
>unskippable psuedo cut scenes arent cut scenes
are you retarded, anon?
cause you sure as fuck can't skip past that whole dialogue bullshit in Kleiner's Lab, nor can you skip past the bullshit when Barney reveals himself at the beginning, not to mention there are quite a few other spots where you are forced to listen to dialogue.
Perhaps you need to replay this piece of shit again.
>>333841154
>Find a flaw
nosequel.webm
>>333841154
cliffhanger ending
>>333842803
Opposing force was shit
>>333843982
OpFor was really good though.
>>333843982
literally the only thing shitty about OF was that shitty boss.
>>333843172
You forgot KF. All guns are god tier satisfaction.
not enough weapon variety
>>333843826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0hCa47sRjI
soon, anon
>>333843172
stalker and new vegas have excellent gunplay
>>333844132
Not that guy, but even the fucking pistol in KF sounds a hell of a lot better than the entire HL2 weaponry, with maybe the exception of the Pulse Rifle.
Weapon variety is shit. The gravity gun saved this game's ass.
>>333843172
>talking shit about blood 2
red is definitely your color
>>333844418
>The gravity gun saved this game's ass.
>>333841484
>>333844246
>new vegas have excellent gunplay
kek
hl2 has wonderful graphics, a breathtaking artstyle and excellent gunplay. It easily looked better than the other best looking game at the time, Halo 2, and ran wonderfully. This is objective truth.
>>333844738
>the other best looking game at the time, Halo 2
wait what
what about Doom 3, Far Cry, Max Payne 2
>>333844561
You mean that the game is shit anyway or that it's great regardless of the gravity gun?
>>333844738
>hl2
>excellent gunplay
top fucking kek
>it's 2004
>Half-Life 2 releases
>is painfully mediocre
>linear as shit inb4 linear is bad, if right it's not
>scripted as all hell
>"interactive" cut-scenes
>combine AI is on par with Wolfenstein 3D's AI
>gravity gun gimmick
>gets GOTY from many sources for 2004
>gets "Game of the decade," while many other superior FPS games released during 2001 - 2010
Why was this game considered good at all?
>>333844905
gimmick gun didn't save shit, despite HL2 being your first FPS you fucking baby.
>>333844508
The weapons in Blood 2 sucked balls compared to Blood. The transition to 3D over sprites was not kind.
>>333844738
gunplay wasn't really good, neither was hl 1's
new vegas has extremely satisfying ballistics, no so much for lasers, but ironically, that's how lasers would act RL.
>>333844837
DOOM 3 has great effects but the graphics looked weird
Why does everyone hate the physics puzzles? I always found them to be pretty fun and a good break from action and combat in the airboat sections.
>>333841154
Made by Valve, the only company that's actively killing gaming.
Valve...
...Convinced Bethesda to implement paid mods since they get a 30% cut of every transaction.
...Introduced, popularized, and promote micro transactions because as I said eariler, they get a 30% cut of every transaction of games that aren't theirs, otherwise they get the full amount.
...lets the fans crowdfund the price pool in DotA 2 and CS:GO and takes 75% of the money for themselves.
...wants you to pay for incomplete games.
...avoids paying tax, contributing to U.S.A.'s shitty economy.
...didn't give refunds until EU forced them to implement it.
...has been found guilty of violating and denying consumer rights in both EU and Australia.
>but muh steam
Just because they made it easier to get games, it doesn't mean they aren't killing gaming.
>but muh ea killing gaming
EA only makes shitty sequels to your childhood games with money making gimmicks learned from Valve.
>le PRED shill
CP Projekt Red and the other companies are shit, but they aren't killing gaming like Valve.
>>333844246
Nv has shit gunplay
>>333844914
>I visited wikipedia because im a underage faggot
FUCK YOU
>>333845039
You forgot
...will implement paid mods in the future, even if you want it or not.
>>333844246
Not sure about Stalker, but...
>shithesda games
>good gunplay
Yeah, no.
>>333844914
>>>333844738
>>hl2
>>excellent gunplay
>top fucking kek
>>it's 2004
>>Half-Life 2 releases
>>is painfully mediocre
>>linear as shit inb4 linear is bad, if right it's not
>>scripted as all hell
>>"interactive" cut-scenes
>>combine AI is on par with Wolfenstein 3D's AI
>>gravity gun gimmick
>>gets GOTY from many sources for 2004
>>gets "Game of the decade," while many other superior FPS games released during 2001 - 2010
>Why was this game considered good at all?
Shit opinion
>>333844914
Valve has had many dick-suckers.
Steam's atrocious launch meant they had to tell themselves it was worth the trouble. Doom 3 sucked dick as well so it wasn't as if there were an immediate strong contender - at least in the scripted FPS category until Fear appeared.
>>333845208
>New Vegas
>Bethesda game
ayy
>>333845097
It's actually kind of average. The base is pretty bad, but some powerful guns are really satisfying to use, which averages to, well, average.
There's a reason every "gunfu" thread has a couple of NV weapons. People like them.
>>333844989
My first game was wolf 3D though. And I played the original HL several years before the release of 2.
I like HL2 though I admit is has aged like milk on a hot summer day. HL1 aged like fine wine though.
>>333845246
You got some pretty shit taste in vidya, valvefag
>>333845291I probably was confused with FO4, my bad
>>333845404
>shit taste
No u
>>333845462
>>333842496
>>333843172
For good gunplay on Source, you should try E.Y.E.
>>333845540
Valve has literally never made a bad game
>>333845587
Not "guns" as such but Dark Messiah put HL2's combat to utter shame.
>>333841484
Seriously. This this this. Good game but these 16 year olds think it makes them look cool to dickride it into oblivion.
>>333845689
They'll dickride Oblivion too.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/naxAuHH.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
is there a worse gun in any game?
>>333841484
>>333845689
You're both retarded
half life 2 sucked, it always fucking sucked, this isn't neo /v/, this is the truth
>>333845603
Mediocre =/= bad, you fucking retard
>>333845789
>this is the truth
It's your opinion
>>333843172
>Psychotoxic
Hnnnnng.
>>333845905
>>333845786
take the goggles off, nigger
>>333841154
*Ahem*
SAMEY FUCK ENEMIES
NOT ENOUGH GOD DAMN UNIQUE ALIENS AND SHIT
NO ALIEN DIMENSION HOPPING
LITERALLY DUDES OF WITH GUNS THE GAME + ZOMBIES
WEAPONS THAT STOCKPILE AMMO AND NEVER GET SPENT
TOO MUCH GIMMICK GUN
AGE OF CONVENIENT EXPLODING BARREL ON ENEMY PATH
NO LIVING ALIEN GUNS
CROSSBOW SHOEHORNED IN
COCK TEASING THE FUCKING ICHTHYOSAUR
NO GIBS, NO FUCKING GIBS
HAMFISTED RELIANCE ON PUZZLES USING GIMMICK GUN OR PHYSICS.
LOWERED AMMO COUNT, USE THAT GIMMICK GUN FAGGOT!
CONVENIENTLY PLACED UNLIMITED AMMO CHESTS, LOWERED AMMO COUNT FAGGOT!
ALL THE COOL SHIT HAPPENS OUT OF GAME
MUGGING CONSTANTLY WITH REFERENCES TO HL1, HERE IS THE SAME CROWBAR FROM BLACK MESA I KEPT IT ECKS DEE.
WEAPONS JUST AMP UP INSTEAD OF ADDING PRACTICALITY AND NEW TACTICS TO THE PLAYER. AKA GUNPLAY NIGGER! HL1 HAD IT!
>>333846019
Shit... there's actually someone else that remembers it...
>>333844837
far inferior artstyles bought them down.
>>333841154
90% of the guns are shit
physics puzzles when the physics are fucking trash
story is shit
worse than hl1
good music but it never plays
annoying characters like elyx
ladders are worse than in hl1
Having to stand around during in-game cutscenes. I was just hopping around during them looking like an idiot. There also needed to be more ayys
>>333846373
How is the story shit?
>>333845587
I'll second EYE, Croon SMG is something that needs to be experienced by anyone who considers himself an FPS fan.
>>333845784
Pistol in HL2 is worse!
>>333846186
The only original part of HL2 artstyle is Combine architecture, though? And you're getting into the territory of opinions, MP2 in particular had striking noir-ish visuals.
>>333846373
>good music but it never plays
That's actually a very clever thing they did. I wish more games done that.
>>333845039
Underrated post
>>333846158
>>333846158
Only ever had the demo where shit falls to the ceiling in cyberspace, would have played the full version, but was only15when it came out and it was rated 16+ round these quarters.
Many twitchy faps were had to my not-Roguefu, though.
All that really bothered me was that areas were fucking huge but there were only like two guns that were any way decent at long range and they had limited ammo. Every firefight was plinking at 3 pixel height enemies 56 miles away trying to get the stupid ass spray patterns to cooperate.
>>333841154
>airboat section drags on for way too long
>>333845192
Are you retarded?
They said they weren't gonna do that after massive backlash
>>333846556
>Pistol in HL2 is worse!
This, a thousand times this - that pistol was such a piece of shit, felt like i was using a cap gun, BB gun, or maybe a pellet gun.
I mean shit man, HL1's pistol had that feeling of power to it, a whole hell of a lot more than HL2's shitty pistol.
>>333846973
>tfw Highway 17 also
for an FPS game, there sure was a lot of driving.
Not that it wasn't fun taking down the Hunter Chopper in the airboat section, and going off those jumps with the Nitro in Highway 17, cause it was...they just dragged on a lot longer than they should have.
>>333847064
https://archive.is/G4TDO
>>333847150
The pistol in HL2 is actually pretty okay when you fight metrocops before Anticitizen One (they actually receive a HP boost in that chapter) and headcrabs... but being okay vs. two types of enemies is pretty hard to justify.
Pistol in HL1 is pretty shit too, but it has a "basic long ranged weapon" niche. Pistol in Black Mesa (2012), the free version that's still available for download, is hilariously powerful, it's accurate as fuck and you can spam it by mashing attack button.
>>333841154
End on a cliffhanger that will never be resolved.
>>333841154
Forced linear gameplay with no freedom
![mesabook[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9yNMX0J.jpg "mesabook[1].jpg")
we can all agree that this is the best half life game right
>>333848630
Yeah when it's finished
>>333848630
Not until Xen is released, no.
>>333848103
>Forced linear gameplay with no freedom
>flaw
pick one
>>333848630
Until valve makes half life 3
Yes
>>333841154
Its generic as fuck
>start game city section
>sewer section
>boat section
>boat with air craft bosses copy pasted
>decent horror section
>car section
>car section
>car section
>still the car section
>shoot down copy pasted poop spaceships
>go to prison
>all prisoners afk freeze
>go back to city even though you never revisited any other area making it awkward
>fight spiders
>enter penis towe-
>blue gravity gun
>very fun penis tower section
Its a fun game but overrated
>>333846674
If you've got access to an XP machine it might be worth tracking down. It's *really* strange. The gunplay is shit, there's loads of collision issues and it's a largely incoherent mess but it still has this strange kind of charm for all the bizarre settings and situations it takes place in. You'll be able to fap over the main menu as well.
>>333841154
Original game was leaked and they butchered up
>>333842939
>going out of your way to define gimmick
>trying to imply that "1. something designed to attract extra attention, interest, or publicity" is in any way a negative attribute
if you justify why it's bad I'll tell you of this underground game that only kool kids know about
Why are people saying hl2 gun play sucks. It feels amazing to move and shoot and the physics amplifies the visual impact on enemies.
I replayed the game last month and the first metro cop you kill falls down the stairs in a way that still impressed me in 2016.
>>333841154
Alyx doesn't have a fully modeled vagina.
>bad gunplay
>implying the magnum and shotgun arent some of the most satisfying vidya guns of all time
>implying i didnt get my shotgun fetish from hl2
>>333849148
It's only generic because everything copied it for the next ten years.
>>333849518
The engine is good
Its just how they used it
The best part is with the super gravity gun(replayed the game with just the super charged gun via console)
>>333841154
>unskippable scripted scenes
>close to no exploration
>gimmicky physics puzzles
>few enemy variety
>only good weapons are the crossbow and the magnum
>awful vehicle sections
HL1 is a better game
>>333841154
>Pacing
>Shitty driving sections
>Overuse of what is first fun physics puzzle but end up being an annoying gimmick
>Some guns felt like peashooters (but some other weren't so that's okay)
>Braindead AI 10 miles under what was promised/shown on gameplay showcase trailers
>>333841154
Shitty buggie level.
>>333843489
>it was mind blowing for it's time
No it wasn't. It was very good, but both Far Cry and Doom 3 were released before HL2 that years. Doom 3 was praised for lightings and tons of tech, FC for its graphics. HL2 was praised for its facial animation but rest wasn't mindblowing.
>>333850301
Why do people always forget Max Payne 2? Came out in 2003 and was beautiful as fuck.
>>333841154
There are no flaws to game that has a crossbow that shoots red-hot, burning rebar
>>333843172
why would you use "play" when you mean sound effects and visuals? the word play implies that it has an impact on the gameplay when like that other anon pointed out you're still just pointing and clicking
>>333850301
HL2 was praised for its gripping narattive and atmosphere. It was one of the first PC games to feature cutscenes that enabled the player to move around during them and treated the player character like a normal person.
>>333846125
>WEAPONS THAT STOCKPILE AMMO AND NEVER GET SPENT
>LOWERED AMMO COUNT, USE THAT GIMMICK GUN FAGGOT!
Which one is it faggot?
>>333851234
>>WEAPONS THAT STOCKPILE AMMO AND NEVER GET SPENT
Pistol, SMG in the second half of the game.
>>LOWERED AMMO COUNT, USE THAT GIMMICK GUN FAGGOT!
Magnum, crossbow, RPG (somewhat understandably), OSPIR (less so).
>>333841154
Its annoying fans and the mute protagonist whos like hes getting ordered around by just listening
>>333851229
"Cutscenes were you moves around"
You mean waiting for a retarded event to start so you can move on.
>>333841154
My biggest issue with Half-life 2 was that they went from HL 1 which had a ton of really cool and interesting different monster enemies to nothing but headcrabs, zombies, and what amounts to generic human soldiers for 85% of the game.
Antlion part was good though
Sluggish pacing. Too much time is spent in the blander levels rather than the cool ones.
Pretty much started the trend of being too diverse with it's gameplay mechanics to kind of forget about its FPS roots at times.
Not enough spooky gman.
>>333850896
The feedback and response provided do affect the mechanical process and how it's perceived though. A weapon that may sound and look shit would be less appealing to use when performing the actions that make up the mechanical gameplay. More enjoyable weapons make for more memorable gameplay. If it didn't affect the gameplay or matter then you wouldn't have weapon visuals and sound effects.
>>333841154
The game takes a MASSIVE plummet in quality somewhere in Sand Trap.
Ravenholm is overrated.
>>333853002
Don't talk shit about nova prospekt, my nigger.
>find a flaw
it'll never be concluded
>>333853113
Hands down the worst section in the game, my nigger.
>>333853546
Nah, close combat in the game was actually not that bad, plus they've gotten the rundown prison aesthetics right. My only problem is that antlions are OP.
