Can a game be good if it's popular? by nature, popular games are games that pander to a large crowd and therefore are as bland as possible. They can't excel in any single field because if they do, it alienates some other demographic of player.
I honestly can't think of a single really popular game that can be considered good.
>>333835238
define popular. There is/was plenty of good games which had millions of fans like D2.
>>333835327
If people like it and have fun, it's popular and therefore shit
not all popular games are made to ponder to idiots
for instance, mario 64's skill ceiling is so high,
>>333835417
I like you anon, what does it tell us about you?
>>333835417
your mom is very popular.
Popular games as a rule will attract the worst kinds of people. That's not to say less popular games don't do this, but look at shit like CoD with its screeching teenagers as an example.
>>333835417
>it's fun
>therefore it's shit
Are you the same guy who said "fun doesn't exist" ?
what is in that bottle
>>333835721
>screeching teenagers
It's like you have never seen rage threads on /v/ or /vr/ were people openly confess to breaking controllers and on lesser ocassions their pc peripherals.
Sims 2.
Not all popular games are popular because they cater to the lowest common denominator, the vast majority are but not all of them.
>>333835789
granny's peach tea
>>333835456
only because the people that still play it have genuinely got aspergers and play it 12 hours a day and have been for 15+ years
>>333835831
but those are literally teenagers and the very same kids. not the guy you are replying to btw.
>>333835756
fun is just a buzzword people use instead of logically explaining why a game is good
>>333835417
>if people like it and have fun, it's shit
/v/, everybody
>>333835831
I'm the guy you're replying to. I've been here for more than a decade you faggot your argument is cancerous.
>>333835938
>logic
>explaining
>buzzword
>explaining subjective opinions
kek
>>333835238
Everything you just said after the first sentence was so wrong it gave me acid reflux. It hurt to read
>>333836050
I am not the guy you are replying to, you didn't disprove his argument and posted an ad hom, were you 3 years old the first time you came here? kek
>>333836128
This post is pure cancer.
>>333836190
>gets found out
>butthurt as fuck
>hurr durr
wew lad.
>>333835878
yea, but that proves it is good. yet it was still popular
>>333835892
Well yes, but getting surprised that "cod kids" are the only dumbfucks in gaming is quite elitist. Same place he posts on has them too.
>>333835238
>by nature, popular games are games that pander to a large crowd and therefore are as bland as possible
>I honestly can't think of a single really popular game that can be considered good.
Jesus you people are full of shit sometimes.
>good
Subjective
>popular
Relative
>>333835238
Are you even trying?
Dead Space
Sim 2
WoW
Age of Empires
Baldurs Gate
Half Life
Left 4 Dead
Civ V
Tetris
Witcher
GTA
Demon/Dark Souls
Mario
Megaman
SmashMinecraft
Need for Speed
MGS
Okay I took the bait, what now?
>>333836554
true but still a logical fallacy. Also you are assuming a lot of stuff you cannot even know right now. /v/ is full of faggots, probably more than the average cod game as you can mute the shitters there and still enjoy the game. If you "mute"/ignore/filter people here you are left with threads about niche indie games, even somewhat known indie games get shitposted to death.
>>333835238
All popular games are good before the normies hop on and ruin everything, and the youtubers, and the patches drop, and the community gets toxic, and a competitive scene is formed, and twitch, and then more patches and ten cent, micro purchases, etc.
After this happens then we have a shit game i.e
>League
>COD
>GTA 5
>CS Go
>>333836873
>all popular games are good before they become popular
>>333836873
If you really think these games are 'bad', you sure as hell didnt play many video games son. After a franchise gets so much money, and the production costs are so high, it becomes nearly impossible to make a really 'bad' game.
>>333837382
GTA is the only on the list that is even good or decent. The rest is literally shit. inb4 butthurt assfaggot baby.
>>333837218
>>333837382
by he time they've been fiddled with so much, they're practically a different game
>>333837459
GTA is ok, the online is complete garbage compared to launch, but that's only because the offline wasn't fiddled with as much
>>333835456
I-is that a TAS run?
>>333836607
>Dead Space
>WoW
>Any Valve game
>Need For Speed
>MGS
>Good
>>333837597
so we are agreeing with each other? Also online was garbage at launch, nothing worked and 6 out of 10 players had their accounts reset with no compensation due to glitches.
Not on /v/, everyone here are fat hipsters.
>>333837382
you're joking right.....
>Rust
>H1z1
>Grav
>DayZ
Tetris is one of the best and most popular games ever made.
>>333837817
Don't those all combined have less budget than GTA 5 just spent on marketing? Not sure but this seems like a bad joke where someone implies that Rust is an AAA game on par with GTA 5. You should have listed "being ripped off with imaginary ships - the game"
>>333837465
Maybe and maybe you dont like that, I dont even look at another COD anymore. But these games are playable. If someone gifted me the newest COD and I had to much free time, I could play it 2-3 hours and have a decent time.
A really bad game is something you cant even finish, because it angers you how badly the game is made.
>>333837459
If League or CSGO bring up this feeling in you, then I would recommend you another hobby. Since beside your personal favouritehandfull of games, there will be A LOT of games wich you cant enjoy in the least.
>>333837749
I agree, but nah desu, my online experience at launch was amazing
>gate glitches
>everyone was a billionare
>rockstar social club money exploits
>Missions payed out a lot better
>animals were still in online
>no bad player lobby
>every one had all weapons and ammo basically
>Every one fucked with each other
>since everyone could be toxic, a lot of
>people were getting along better, simply because they knew they could all out each other if they wanted.
Then Rockstar fucked up literally the perfect combination for fun. Now it's just hackers running around in god mode killing everyone, and microtransactions
>>333838150
>If you do not enjoy 2 shit games with horrible communities and shit gameplay you should look for a new hobby
>nevermind that you enjoy thousands of actually good games every single day for over 2 decades
ok kid, I laughed.
>>333835417
> If people like it and have fun, it's popular and therefore shit
/v/ and /a/ in a nutshell
>>333838335
I am so glad that I didn't buy this game 2 or 3 times like some faggots did here.
>>333837817
>Rust
These games are streamer bait and cant even compare to the production value of a AAA title.
My best explanation for the great playerbase really is streams (and fans of these).
>>333838150
depends on your definition of bad anon. My definition of bad is below average. I could pick up a bad game and play it for 2-3 hours. I judge a game not by how much I can play, but how much I enjoy.
>>333838126
The tetris that most people play is different to the actually good tetris that only autists play
>>333835878
Yeah? Doesn't that apply to anything you can get really good/knowledgeable at?
>>333838470
Same thing is happening with Minecraft, They keep patching and messing with an already flawless game. If it keeps up it could turn into another GTA 5. Especially when they added Realms.
>>333838559
Nah desu, these games were pretty good before the newbies came. Just look at LOL season 2 compared to it now. The gameplay is much less versatile and much less rewarding. Same goes for all these games
>>333838873
Personally I got bored of minecraft after a few weeks or so. I think I just lack the autism and being 12 yo to enjoy it for a long period of time. Everyone who I know irl who played it years after release was a perma virgin turbo autist, says so much about the community.
Nah, usually popular games come from legitimate design that ended up resonating with people. It's the subsequent updates or sequels that end up pandering.
>>333838373
Well, its true. If you have such specific standarts, the thought that shit like Rocket League or ARK, wich are FAR worse, make so much money should make you rage everytime someone mentions it. Like that you cant have a happy day anymore.
>>333839139
>giving a shit about companies making money of idiots
>projecting this hard
you are one hell of a stupid autist, take your "standarts" and go read a book you halfwit nigger.
>>333839089
Im just saying that games like LoL or Dota are playable and I can understand when other people have fun with it, wich makes them no bad games in my opinion.
While I cant even understand how people can play games like H1Z1 i.e. for even an hour.
>>333839314
See, you sound like you're about punch your screen out of anger. Why get so upset about different opinions?
>>333839118
Let me tell you anon, before the Newbies, 12 year olds, and the Youtubers came. Back before the Xbox version, back when you started the game 12 minutes in and realize the novel "there is no tutorial, wtf am I doing" thought. And you spend your first night in a 3x3 dirt block fort to avoid the spiders and skeletons, and you extend it into a tree house and now you have a comfy lookout s the night light is the only thing lighting your tiny fort, as you're looking out watching the mobs spawn, waiting for the sun to rise. Minecraft was literally god tier
>>333839610
like I said, autists
>>333839363
those are all equally shit, also taste is subjective. Welcome to not being 12 anymore. Do whatever you want. Whatever is trash to one man is gold to another, see e celeb cancer.
>>333839610
That is exactly when I played it though, why are you preaching to the choir?
>>333835238
I feel like this particular piece of shitposting nicely sums up /v/ as a whole. If we could squeeze some off-topic discussion in here too, we could really cover all of the bases.
>>333839363
LOL and Dota are pretty gud, so I do agree with you. but comparably to previous seasons the gameplay is a LOT less luster, and rewarding. Making it comparably bad to older players, such as I
>>333839801
>pretty gud
wew lad, sure is underage in here
>>333839801
Yeah well then we pretty much agree on that.
>Giving wards for free
>>333836873
League was going down the toilet almost as soon as closed beta ended.
CoD Advanced Warfare was good.
GTAV is great.
CSGO is just representative of what Valve does now, that is, fuck all. It's an outsourced HD remake with a few idiosyncratic changes from the original plus hats.
>>333841668
>CoD Advanced Warfare was good
>>333842601
It had jetpack bunny hopping with lasers and basketball. Yeah it was good.
>>333835238
Paper Mario 64 was popular
Paper Mario TTYD was popular
Now off yourself
>This thread
Wow you really are a bunch of contrarian faggots. Off yourselves.
At one point, sales might have been a decent indicator of quality, but that is no longer the case.
>>333842919
This is why trying to have a serious discussion about anything in this shithole is a waste of time.
