Anyone who claims to beat a Souls or Resident Evil game without a guide is lying.
Heck just finding covenants and many areas requires a guide.
You don't need covenants to finish the game.
Darkwraiths in DS1 maybe, but the rest are nothing special unless you're a scrub.
>>333835063
You dont need a guide for that area. You just look at the particles falling from the ceiling and whether or not they land in front of you.
I didn't even know you could die in Dark Souls when I beat it
I didnt use a guide for the entire game, but I did play almost everything completely blind for every game. Ive mamaged to beat them all.
I'll use a guide if Im completely stuck, or want to find a very specific item or something.
>>333835445
>I don't use guides but I use guides
>>333835321
you could stumble upon it pretty easily though.
the moment you realize you can defeat 4kids right after sif before you place the lordvessel, you're pretty much in the covenant
>>333835063
How was these guides made then?
>the modern gamer is so dumb they can't beat classic RE games without a guide
>>333835063
i finished DS1 yesterday and didnt use a guide, but i did get tips from friends.
that being said, i started ng+ and got to sen's fortress in a few hours. and i'm using an achievement guide now, because i had no fucking idea about things like "you cant talk to frampt to get in this covenant" or kneel in front of gwyndolin's fog gate.
also, i didn;t cheat on my first playthrough, but i'm cheating now. mostly just giving myself souls to upgrade all those goddamned weapons and also giving myself more large titanite shards n shiet
>>333835063
>Resident Evil game without a guide is lying.
Found the casual
And this is why there are no puzzles like RE's Plant 42 chemical puzzle in games anymore, casuals.
tl;dr wait a minute that card is all down to people like you.
Kill yourself
I wouldn't really call it a guide, but I constantly look up progress routes on the wikis. Not because I get stuck or have trouble, but because I'm always paranoid about missing stuff, and if I'm not looking up where to go I'm always worried I could be missing a secret level, and once you're on a wiki, it's very hard to not look up anything else leading to a slippery slope of looking up content. It's happened in all 4 games, but I'm planning on using all of my self control to force myself to stay off of anything Dark Souls 3 related until I beat the game.
>>333835824
I'd be embarrassed if I needed a guide to make the V-Jolt. The chemical combination is literally written on the wall. Or was it in a book? It's been a while.
>>333835063
I hope when you say RE you reference the first one. Only that was hard but even so if you need a guide you are a filthy casual.
>>333835063
I beat RE2 and 4 without any guide, what the fuck are you talking about.
Dark Souls is a convoluted mess though, I agree. The game would be a hundred times better if you could atleast find maps of areas in chests.
>>333835063
> being this bad
> this dumb
> this young
I bet you've never beat a zelda game without a guide faggot. If your even old enough to remember ocoraina of time.
>>333835434
You can't die. That's the whole point of the curse of undead.
>when shitposting fits the thematical concepts of the game.
>>333835983
It was on the wall. You just had to do basic math. I figured that shit at 8 and autists here can't at all today. There was only one game of that era you needed a guide for and that was Discworld.
>>333835063
>NOOO!!! ALL PLAYERS MUST BE AS BAD AS ME!!!!
Jesus Christ. Also, covenants aren't required, you dumbshit and that stage in your pic isn't even that hard, if you observe first and not be a moron rushing in, you'll see that droplets will splash on the invisible floor.
Goddamn modern gaymers, I guess this is the result of an entire generation being spoiled with their hands being held and playing too much CoD. I hope you're not one of those idiots thinking the souls series is a hardcore game.
>>333836056
Why does it say "You Died" whenever you lose a boss battle?
The only game I refuse to believe people have beaten with a guide is La Mulana.
>>333835063
>I can't do it so no-one must be able to.
>>333835515
he is clearly refering to the guidance offered by our lord and saviour jesus christ
>>333835859
>but because I'm always paranoid about missing stuff
Keep telling that youself, you fucking casual. That's what 3rd and 4th gameplays are for at best.
>>333835063
>talk to cat
>yes
>convenant entered
?
Getting a review copy for a Souls game is the best feeling ever
>Who is that
>What the fuck is this
>Where the fuck am I
And nobody will believe half the shit you say. And then when more people get their hands on the game, you realise how much cool shit you missed first time through.
>>333835063
Resident Evil is pretty easy man Why would you need a guide?
>>333836220
But it really is why, because in Dark Souls if I want to eventually go for 100% achievement I'll have to play 2-3 times on top of that. But yes, that's what I'm going to remind myself to stop myself from using a guide in 3.
>>333835063
found this by myself m8
>>333836639
Are you serious? The fire is literally calling for you. How is that even remotely a secret, you fucking cuck?
>>333836141
To answer this question, we first have to determine what the "you" in YOU DIED means.
>>333835063
>RE
>Need a guide
Maybe 1-3 but RE4, 5, 6 are fairy easy, even the Cateye and 6 dead guys are not hard
Beat bloodborne without a guide.
Beat that nurse thing and Gherman on my first run. Didnt die to either of those. Died a shit ton to other bosses though,mostly Vicar Amelia.
>>333835063
I beat ds3 3 weeks ago when guides didn't even exist.
>>333836737
yep of course that's why i was one of the first to find the trophy for that covenant when i wasnt even rushing through the game and wasn't even close to first on any other trophy
right....
Anyone who has the game early, where does 3 fit amongst the other Souls games? Right now my rating is:
Dark > BB > Demon's > Dark 2
Keep in mind I haven't played 3 yet. Is it good?
>>333837058
Most people were too busy doing real stuff like pvp and not exploring the world like a cuck.
>>333837058
>i was one of the first to find the trophy for that covenant
LOL
>>333835063
>Playing RE: Code Veronica X for first time.
>Ending the game you must set a password in a terminal
> I don´t know it ... try: Veronica
>It worked
You don't need a guide to finish any of the Souls games
They are however more fun with a guide. The 'exploration' aspect of souls games are easily the worst and least developed part.
>>333837229
Wow I thought I was the only one who did this like this too. The game is called Code Veronica I wonder if that's done on purpose.
>>333836047
What's Zelda?
Finished all REs without reading anything (haven't played 6, though, and the MP spin offs).
>>333837469
6 will break you and make you use a guide.
>>333835063
>"finding" areas
you just go through all areas as you play through the game. There is nothing to "find".
>>333835149
/thread
Finding all secrets in these games most likely requires a guide or at least a lot of talking with friends, but beating a souls game isn't that difficult because they're usually pretty linear.
I've beat DeS, DS, and Bloodborne all just by playing the game.
>>333836018
>can't internalize maps
Get out casual
>>333835576
Not really, you'd probably still talk to frampt.
>>333835389
not to mention the fact that people usually leave a lot of messages here
>>333837984
>playing online
>>333836121
>>333836018
I just played RE1 for the first time through the HD rerelease and what you guys are saying disgusts me. V-JOLT was an enjoyable puzzle and that other one with the billiard balls was pretty cool to. Also, fairly straightforward as fuck but still made you feel like you worked for something. This idea that people are beating these games without guides is very disturbing to me.
>>333837547
Uwotm8? RE6 is even more linear than 5. There's literally zero backtracking and the weapons are all literally in front of you along the way. If you miss any you're just running around like a blind fool.
>>333838084
>not playing online
>>333835063
>crystals covered in messages
well that was easy
![U7Ghu2s[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/qjiRohF.gif "U7Ghu2s[1].gif")
>>333838160
I use the Internet to look up what weapons I pick up are worth upgrading.
>>333836827
You see, understanding the basic concept of "You" is not an easy task. It took me 12 hours to find the definition of "You" and what can we do to use it properly. In this case "You" is regarding to your own life form. So when the game said "(you) DIED". It means, you died. But what is "Died?" Before we can get to that it's time to learn about the purpose of life, eternity and the universes...
>>333838619
So you got a black knight weapon and removed all the fun from the game?
>>333838619
>>333838754
That is not what he said you fucking autist, holy shit. People like you make me hate this fucking fandom
>>333835063
but if no guide who write guide?
>>333838991
what
If he's only gonna upgrade the strong weapons he'll eventually only end up using the strongest, no?
>>333839145
The guys that made the game obviously know all the game secrets.
>>333835063
>he didn't throw down stones
lmao
>>333838182
you need to be 18 to post on this board
Beating a game isn't the same as 100%-ing it.
Finding certain covenants and secrets is hard, but the main storyline is straight-forward
>Resident Evil
I don't know what's hard about this one, it's much more linear and smaller in scale than Souls games.
Stop being a casual, OP. You sound like a casual teenager
>>333838991
sounds like you're just bad at the game kiddo, git gud casul
games not even that hard honestly
>>333835063
>Resident Evil
I did it as a child. Are retarded?
>>333837058
Good job taking virginity of that trophy, man. 2pro4me.
>>333835063
Jus explore you double nigger
Souls games eapecially have people writing hints on the fucking ground, for godssake
Did anyone ever get Aeris's final limit break without a guide?
>>333838695
Nah, man. You are making it too simple. The you can refer either to you as a player, which would make sense, since I am pretty sure the player character isn't seeing giant floating red letters.
Which would mean, you as the player died while playing the game. Which wouldn't even necessarily mean you as a real life human loses life functions, but the you died in the role of the player.
Or it refers to the player character, who is clearly undead in the game, because he is trapped in the curse of undead like most everybody else.
It may be promising to think of YOU DIED, not as died in the meaning of cessation of life, but something metaphysical. For example the phrase "hope dies". No biological death here. But the cessation or suppression of emotion.
The YOU DIED could refer to the death of your driving force of will. Since our character is undead anyway and can't die, his HP should be more a measure of his Willpower to reach his ambition (what keeps most characters from going completely hollo), than of physical health.
Just beating them? Definitely not true. Maybe for not missing any items. Souls isn't that cryptic, RE is sometimes though. I doubt many people used guides for their second souls games once they were comfortable with combat.
But I beat Dark Souls 3 twice now and it's not out in the US and neither is the guide.
Only "help" I got was finding the darkmoon covenant, but I likely would have found it without a guide based on where it's located
How was i supposed to know the basement key description would lead me to the door it opens????
RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I just talked to my friend about it and we discussed our findings while playing it.
>that feel when I was the first person in the west to find Aldritch faithful and posted about it on /vg/
though a couple of japs beat me since I was invaded by them a couple times
>>333840605
I remember when I got that key that was the only door that was locked for me so I figured it had to be that one.
If you didn't use a guide for the skyrim door key puzzles you're lying. Hardest game ever.
>>333840917
Jokes aside, how was i supposed to know i could turn the items?
>>333836121
>he needed a guide to know to use fertiliser on the starched snake
>>333836639
Who is that?
>>333839225
But how did they find them without a guide?
How do you get stuck in Dark Souls? The things you HAVE to do are pretty clearly laid out. Only the optional stuff is cryptic.
>>333835063
no, you are retard thats the problem
>>333835063
Wouldn't the online note system constitute a guide of sorts? Dark Souls is designed around sharing information, so it would be weird not to use any sort of help.
I never used a guide in RE4, but that game is not nearly as obtuse as the earlier entries.
Do demon souls count?
>>333837090
ds>bb>ds3>demons>ds 2
>>333843150
DS3 isn't out yet though anon-kunnn.
>>333835063
Fucking casual. Try beating original Myst when internet was just a wet dream for most people.
>>333843596
I bought Myst when they ported it to the original xbox, played like 30 minutes of it then got my mom to drive me back to the store and returned it for Soul Callibur 2.
>>333835063
lol, a Leisure Suit Larry has more complex puzzles than any Souls game.
I think anyone that thinks the souls games are difficult needs to be banned from posting online. Its all the same exact shit for every single souls game and even bloodborne. I beat DeS without a guide and only died 9 times and I know that because it actually told you in that game. And DaS1 and 2 I beat dying less than 20 times each and same for bloodborne. These games are seriously 1+1=2 in terms of game design and difficulty.
>>333843205
Not for losers like you, actually important people have been playing it for weeks.
Not gonna lie, I used a guide for DS1. I feel ashamed.I still use a progress path guide to remember which areas and bosses to tackle next.
But DS2 I didn't, that game was linear as fuck.
The only really hidden things are Darkwraiths and Darkmoons. Which are pvp factions anyway.
The first because you have to "sequence break" to join it, the second because it's an item behind an illusory wall that you have to wear at a completely different area.
>>333843205
Trus me
>>333835063
post just proves how disgustingly casual gamers are today, i bet youd love an easy mode
Only time I've ever actually encountered pure bullshit in a Dark Souls game was in DS2. I was being killed by the poison medusa chick right and left because I had no idea that you were to destroy the windmill with a torch. There were no messages left there or anything to help me figure it out, and I ended up shelving the game for months because I just couldn't beat her otherwise. I highly doubt anyone's honesty when they say they just deduced that with no help whatsoever.
>>333840917
I remember when the game came out my roommate was stuck on the first one of those for like 15 minutes.
>>333845703
I honestly had to summon for her 2 runs before I watched some video that showed you could burn the sails.
>>333840917
Legitimately did those w o guide. No rhyme or rhythm just autistic amounts of trial and error, in all honesty there wasn't THAT much combinations.
>>333835063
To find optional stuff, sure, you'd be hard pressed to find every covenant without a guide.
I used one because I wanted to find the cool optional areas like ash lake.
But to beat the game? You definitely don't need a guide.
>>333845703
That got me too. I played offline. I had a suspicious something was strange with the windmill because I noticed the slight incline toward the base. But when I got close, there was no action pop-up or anything. Typically, when you can interact with an object, the option comes up. Like, even locked doors will ask if you want to open them, before the game informs you that they're locked. Or it will ask if you want to pull a lever, before it informs you that the lever is inactive.
So I figured there would be a pop-up, if I could do anything there. Also, the base was textured metal, so I didn't think it would burn. But honestly, I didn't give fire that much consideration.
Anyway, eventually I figured I was missing something, so I finally broke down and ask /v/ for the solution.
>>333835063
i found darkwraiths because i forget to give the soulvessel to the dumb snake on ng+
>>333835063
LOL
