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>Glorious led
>2,5 cm mono speaker, better than the Wii
>Great build quality
>Touchpad makes everything better
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>>333822340
It feels a lot less plasticy than the DS3, it also has real triggers. That said the Xbox 360 has the better controller.

A for effort
B for innovation
B+ for overall quality
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>>333822449
>It feels a lot less plasticy than the DS3, it also has real triggers.

I wish I could plug my Dual Shock 2 and use it on my Ps4

Fucking worthless controller
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>>333822449
the 360 dpad is a joke.
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>>333822510

What games you need a d-pad?
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>>333822574
fighting games
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>>333822510
And if that was the primary control method, I'd agree that would be an issue, but even with the DS3/4 the D-pad is ignored outside of being 4 more face buttons.
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i think it's comfy to hold. i use it alongside with the 360 on my pc
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>>333822615
>playing fighting games on pad
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>>333822615
>not using a fighting stick
Okay, next you'll tell me you use a dance pad for space sims.
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>>333822615
Tell me 1 reason not to use the 25-30$ madcatz fighithing controller SFIV edition
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>ds4 battery
>4 hours
>wii u pro controller battery
>80 hours
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>>333822574
And game with movement on a 2d plane.
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>>333822340
DS4 is good just the analogs tear easy and the triggers r2/l2 have fucking snapped, they do feel plasticy as well
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>>333822574

Anything 2D
Menu navigation
It's all objectively better with a dpad
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There are still brand new SFIV mad Catz controllers where I live for 15 bucks

Don't tell me you don't have 15 bucks anon
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>>333822685
I still don't understand why the battery life is so short. That fucking LED light can't be using that much power.
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>>333822772
>Menu navigation

WOW

That's why you need super precise D-pads!

:-)
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>>333822834
it was never the LED, it's the touchpad. it's active the entire time the controller is on.
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>>333822574
Every game?
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>>333822834

Simply: low quality battery made by a low quality factory in China
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>>333822340
the bottom middle one is smiling!
You canĀ“t prove that the xBone controllers is THIS happy...
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>>333822510
No, a joke is usually funny to at least some people.
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Xbox one you can use rechargeable AA batteries
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Gen 2 duel shock 4s have fixed the flaky thumb stick rubber. Just like Gen 2 xbone controllers fix the bumpers.

Between then i'm taking the Xbone controller for anything that uses mostly analog inputs and DS4 for 2D games that are mainly played with the D Pad

On a side not how the fuck does Salt and Sanctuary not let you use the D pad for movement?
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I can't play games that heavily use R1/L1 (Dark Souls) on an 360/xbone controller. Just naturally gripping the controller my fingers rest on the triggers, and I find it a bit uncomfortable to keep using bumpers.

The inverse being true for triggers. If the game is trigger heavy I hate using the DS3.

Never tried the DS4 yet.
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>>333822853

It's significantly more efficient and ergonomic to make a minimal tap on a dpad than pushing the whole joystick up or down
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>>333822340
I wish more games used the Led and Speaker effectively. I loved the LED flashing red white and blue during the broforce victory fanfare.
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>>333822853
The problem is not that itĀ“s not super precise, but that itĀ“s fucking terrible, you press up and it goes left.
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>>333822574
What game doesn't need a D-pad?
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>>333822834
They make the controllers a dime a douzen. So does Nintendo but that just shows how even cheaper the ps4 was made.
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>>333822990
>more efficient and ergonomic

Anon...
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>>333822670
>using a fighting stick when hitbox exists
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>>333823015
Every game since 5th gen consoles.

Be less stupid.
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>>333823067
lol but most games have some functionality tied to the d-pad
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Sony can choke on a big fat one with their proprietary, non user replaceable 5hrs of battery life controller. Least MS has the decency to use AA batteries
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>>333822340
xbox elite controller is better

not even compareable
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>>333823039

prove me wrong faggola
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How is the steam controller? Im thinking about getting one to play some games with
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>>333822685
Wii U pro controller is goddamn glorious.
I use it everywhere I can and it's great on PC with the Toshiba bluetooth stack and WiinUPro which is a hassle, but I'm ok with it.

The only real issues I have is:
>Digital triggers
>Weak-ish rumble
>Power button when it should just be part of the home button

apart from that, it's God-tier.
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>>333823131
The bone controller still uses fucking AA'a?
Holy shit, how fucking backwards is M$?
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the xbox charge kit is quite expensive but I have like 12 AA batteries here
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>>333823209
Gotta buy that play n charge kit for an extra 15 bucks goy!
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>>333823153
>$150 controller is better than $65 controller

wow who would have thought?
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>>333822685
>4 hours
You can set the LED light to minimum, you know?
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>>333822340
what do people do to their controllers to make the rubber tear?
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Felt clunky going back to a DS2 after using 4 for a long while. Sticks still holding well after 2 years. LED light is dumb and the touchpad thing and share button can be done without.
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>>333823067
How do you change weapons in shooters?
How do you change gears in racing games?
Equipt items and spells in rpgs?
How do you play anything without using the D-pad?
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>>333822772
Normie friends navigating menus with D-Pad triggers me every single time baka desu senpai
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>>333823291
use them, the early version of PS4 controllers used shit materials so eventually your thumbstick would begin to tear. It's nothing a cheap cover on eBay can't fixed though
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>>333823009
Do you have autism or why cant you operate a simple stick?
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>>333823209
>>333823246
These fucking arguments again. I blame iPhones for making people think sealed battery packs are a good thing.

Using standard sized anything is always good esp for batteries. In 5 years when them cheap batteries start not being able to hold a charge i'll just need to slap in to fresh rechargeable AA .
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I bet no one in tgis tgread has tried to physical turn off the light in the controller.
It's insane how much the battery improves with it off.
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>>333823360
***ANALOG STICK, I meant the analog stick.
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>>333823164
It has a severe learning curve, and requires setup and tweaking for just about every single game you use it with. If you can get over that it's a pretty cool controller. Good for stuff like GTA where you're switching between driving and on foot aiming and stuff, or space combat games where you can use the joystick or gyro for flying and the trackpad for menu navigation of your ship systems and shit without needing to swap controllers. The sheer amount of customization means you can tweak everything to exactly how you want it too.

Basically, only get one if you have the patience to learn how to use it.
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>>333822617
So if it's not primary it can be shit?
Also it's primary for 2D games and emulation.
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I fucking hate that I can't turn off the LED when I'm using it in a dark room.
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>>333823358
Using the one on the 360 pad which does all of that easily, as well as having better everything else. Did you forget what the argument was about?
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>>333823523
Open the controller then and turn it off.
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>>333823563
I'd rather just cover it in electrical tape.
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>>333823289
It's not about led it's about touchpad.
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>>333823358
- The Y button
- A button
- radial wheel
kekaroonie senpai
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Xbox One Wireless Controller 3.5mm Jack Version

(No XBOX ONE Headset Adapter Required)
Key Features
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>>333822981
Used for switch items, spells, and weapons. I do wish can switch the dpaf4 and analog functions though.
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>>333823563
>Void a warranty on an already problematic controller to fix an issue that shouldn't be an issue in the first place
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>>333823046
A keyboard is better. Used to play fighters and sidescrollers with them.
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>>333823416
>Implying the same doesn't happen to rechargeable batteries
By the point you lose charge, a new controller is cheaper than all the money you spent on fucking AA's.
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>>333822897
>>333823594
Does the touchpad really draw that much electricity?
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>>333822685
>Wii U Gamepad battery
>4 minutes
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>>333823416
>Wii U Pro controller literally has a panel to replace the rechargeable battery
Come to think of it, all Nintendo gadgets with rechargeable batteries have a philips head screw secured panel to replace the battery

AA batteries are cancer and the quicker they die, the better.
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>>333823648
Hitbox is literally keyboard with superior buttons and layout.
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>>333823594
Even then, setting the LED to minimum gives me more than double that time.
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>>333823630
Then turn it back on if you don't want it to be broken.
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DS4 is the worst controller.
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The DS4 has replaced my 360 controller as my main PC controller. I still use a Wii U pro controller for emulation, but for any other games that need a controller, it's DS4 all the way.
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>>333823692
>Implying it's not the same battery life as dualshit 4
>It's running a screen and still has comparable battery life to your shit meme pad
Nice memeing
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>>333823650
Rechargeable AA's aren't expensive anon. Cheaper than the battery packs and charging cables Microsoft shit out for 360 and bone controllers, plus they have many potential uses.
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>>333823650
>than all the money you spent on fucking AA's.

Anon...
AA batteries I have for 4-5 years , I paid like 30 bucks for 12 pack.
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>>333823759
Wii U pro controller is great on PC games, why switch to DS4?
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>>333823809
>implying I even play on the Weeb Station 4
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>>333823819
>plus they have many potential uses.
No, they don't. Fucking nothing uses AA'a anymore.
Even if by chance something does use batteries, it uses AAA's.
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>>333823864
Stick and button placement, mostly, and it's more comfortable for longer sessions.
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>>333823870
You're still wrong dumbass.
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>>333822340
My DS4 suddenly stopped charging a few days ago.
Just get a yellow light on the back that fades in and out.
Return it even though it's just 4 months old?
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>>333823650
What? 4 pack of Eneloop are 13 bucks on amazon prime shipped to my door. They are rated for 2100 Cycle, thats like what 11 years if you discharge and recharge them once a day? Also they are 2000mAh a pop (so 4000 for the 2 AA that controllers use) compared to the 1000mAh in the DS4. If Sony used AA the DS4 might be able to do more then 1 playthough of The Order without needing charge

>>333823704
But you still can only get packs from Nintendo (or a chink 3rd party)

>A batteries are cancer and the quicker they die, the better

Yeah because using something that is consumer friendly is cancer right?

>>333823748
I really starting to wounder if I had this same argument with you before
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>>333823819
amazon DOT comPlaystation-2000mAH-Replacement-Battery-Controller-4/dp/B00JFQ045Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460290510&sr=8-1&keywords=dualshock+4+battery

Neither are replacement battery packs. The point is 360 controller and bone controllers should have had rechargeable batteries built in.

So should the Wii Remotes
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>>333823916
Don't worry if you defend Nintendo online enough one day they WILL hire you and all your mommy problems will go away.
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>>333823884
>fucking nothing uses AA's anymore
Alright, pretend for just a minute that there's more to the world than video games, and then think about that statement.
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>Implying there is no good d-pad on the 360

>>333823704
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>>333823908
Fair enough. I disagree, but there's no need to argue.
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>>333822897
Steam controller has two and it has huge battery life. The battery has just a really small capacity.
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>>333823991
I'd rather use the wired 360 controller :)
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>>333823991
I'm 100% sure I had this argument with you before. You link some shitty 3rd party chink battery. Bet the thing is really 1/4 of what it's rated.

No matter what you say or do proprietary batteries are anti consumer
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>stupid glossy plastic holy shit
>fake trigger button
>vibrate like mini cellphone
>Right analog stick above buttons
>Bad input lag
>No audio jack

What is nintendo thinking when they create this abomination?
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>>333823991
Having to disassemble and void the warranty on a controller for something that shouldn't be an issue in the first place isn't the sign of a good product.
>The point is 360 controller and bone controllers should have had rechargeable batteries built in.
As long as they were easy to replace, sure.
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I really ought to replace the sticks on my dualshock 4 that suffers the launch issue, but been lazy as shit.

Where do you even buy official replacements anyways?
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>>333823929
...that's...what it does... while charging.
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>>333822834

inbuilt speaker
shitty touchpad
jewtooth
muh sensors
stupid light on the back
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>>333824271
But it doesn't hold charge even though it's just 4 months old.
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>>333824187
>hes never held the best controller
>he has no wiiu
>he doesnt know how good it actually is
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>>333824187
It looks like it has a decent d-pad, at least. But it's Nintendo, so I assume the x-input support is absolute shit.
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>>333824276
The dualshock 3 had bluetooth and the gyro sensors already. I'm not sure the touchpad, shitty speaker and LED would buttfuck the controller so bad. Fact is, Sony cheaped out and used a smaller battery. Only explanation.
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>>333823705
How do you move?

Why would you put a stealth game mascot on a fighting game appliance?
No excuses, that's MGS1
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>>333822685

Is the Dual Shock battery really that bad?

The xbox One controller lasts like 30 hours, no problem.
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>>333822853
Super precise would be nice, but I'd be happy with just a working d-pad
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>>333822671
Garbage that breaks really fast.
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>>333824492
My DS4 averages anywhere from 6 to 8 hours. It's a fucking joke.
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>>333824276
>jewtooth
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>>333824439
Even the DS 3 battery is already bad

Sony fucked up the DS3 and DS4
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>>333824489
>How do you move?
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>>333823934
>1 play through of The Order
But don't you just need to press the play button? I know for a fact the dualshock 4 battery lasts longer than 1 button press

You're right about the battery packs, but I've mostly found chink shit to be ok and if it dies, it's like a $2 hit to me and I can defs afford that.

I haven't had this argument before with anyone and never link shit. Not surprised though, I hate AA batteries
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>>333824402
>nintendo d-pads
not even once
>push down right
>press is slightly towards the upper portion of the right arm
>registers as up instead
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>>333824617

How disgusting.
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>>333824554
>Even the DS 3 battery is already bad
You could get 20-30 hours out of it, about the same as a 360 pad.
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>>333824529
If your controller has been active for that long, then you need to put it down and charge it
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>>333824623
What do you hate about them?
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>>333824489
actually i think that might be frank jaeger on it, his right arm doesn't seem to have a hand
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I never had any problem on the 360 d-pad

I think they just disliked the layout and invented the "bad precision" meme
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>>333822574
I prefer RE 1-3 using dpad.
Most 2D games play better with dpad.
RPG's are better with dpad when you go through menus.
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>>333822340
>These memes again

You just gonna keep spamming this, son?
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>>333824156
>Wired
I've got one and the wires inside disconnect every now and again. The controllers are good, but my god Microsoft has horrible quality standards. Nowhere near Nintendium levels.
>>333824402
Some dude made 3rd party drivers that link it to Xinput and it's God-Tier
>>333824187
I'll give you glossy plastic and the vibrate but everything else you're just wrong about
Audio jack doesn't matter
Right stick is totally fine
There isn't any input lag you dumb nigger
and I do prefer analogue triggers, but 99% of the time, I don't actually need them.
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>>333822340
Nigger
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>>333824719
>You could get 20-30 hours out of it

Funny that I owned 3 DS 3 in my entire life and none of them last more than 20 hours
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>>333824748
Ok? Thanks for your input Cpt. Obvious.
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>>333824790
I'm talking about PS3-PS4/Xbox games you dumb idiot
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>>333824675
Because it's not meme stick which japs use, right?
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>>333824623
>I hate AA batteries
It's stupid to hate them. I wish the DS4 would take em, they have 4 times the capacity if they did

Wish cameras took AA or maybe even an 18650 cell. Just so the racket on batteries can end
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>>333824864
Mine did. Plenty of others can confirm.
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>>333824751
>Expensive
>run out too quickly
>rechargeable ones die much quicker than inbuilt batteries
>a hassle to buy
>can't plug in the controller and play and charge
>adds bulk

what is there to like?
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>>333824790
Stupid fucking angry cat-poster
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The DS4 battery won't last 10 hours of gameplay after 1 year of use
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>>333824956
>Expensive
>run out too quickly
>rechargeable ones die much quicker than inbuilt batteries
>a hassle to buy
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>333824810
Is the dpad any good or is it >>333824627
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DS4/X360 user here, how does the Xbone controller differ from the 360?
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>>333825040
Better in every way (and I love the 360 controller)

X1>360>PS2>PS3>PS1>PS4
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>>333822340
ITT: What is a replacement thumb grip
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>>333825040
>how does the Xbone controller differ from the 360?
Much better dpad, joysticks have this textured rubber that gives good grip, triggers feel a little better, slightly improved ergonomics but that's just my opinion. Bumpers on the original bone controller are shit, they could only activate if you hit them on the side, they wouldn't move if you pressed them from the top. The new revision of the controller with the audio jack fixed them though.

Besides that it's pretty much the same.
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>>333824956
>expensive
>run out too quickly
>a hassle to buy
>rechargeable ones die much quicker than inbuilt batteries
You're fucking wrong, wtf
>can't plug in the controller and play and charge
This has nothing to do with AAs and just with the controllers not supporting it.
>adds bulk
also dependent on the controller. Steam Controller has them in the handles, F710 has just a minor bulge over the F310.
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>>333822340
How many times does it need to be said?

There is a newer revised Dualshock 4 model with better analog sticks that don't tear. Now fuck off.
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>>333824915
So there are no 2D games on those consoles?

I D I O T
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>>333825447
Can't you play Ducktales with the 360 D-pad?

of course you can mate.
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>>333823884
>Fucking nothing uses AA'a anymore.

Ok you can just stop now.
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>>333825546
The point is the 360 dpad is terrible. We've been over this.
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>>333825432
this

bought three ds4's before getting a ps4.

zero tearing for now
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>>333825648
>terrible.

Terrible is playing Ducktales using WiiU controller
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>>333824956
>adds bulk

Like holy shit senpai you sound like weak piece of shit to be quite honest with you m8
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>>333823934
>Also they are 2000mAh a pop (so 4000 for the 2 AA that controllers use)
thats not how it works. If the batteries are running in parallel it would be but in controllers they are in series so the capacity doesnt add just the voltage does.
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http://www.amazon.com/Sony-NH-AA-B4EN-Capacity-Blister-2500mAh/dp/B0007LBVHI

I just don't know why it's 20 bucks for 4 AA batteries

I bought 12 for 30 bucks 5 years ago.
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That's a good deal

AA > internal batteries

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Capacity-Rechargeable-Batteries-Pre-charged/dp/B00HZV9WTM
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What's the best software for connecting DS4 to PC?

I remember there being some shenanigans with DS3 Tool before being replaced with XinputWrapper on DS3's part a while back.
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>>333825916
2500mAh, and it's Sony branded.
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>>333826053
DS4Windows
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>>333826074
Sony is overpriced

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/duracell-rechargeable-aa-batteries-4-pack-green/9044086.p?id=1218978281915&skuId=9044086

4 batteries for 13 bucks not the best deal but good price
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>>333826053
There is a free program that let's it mimic a 360 pad and gives you a shitload of customization options, can't remember what it's called. Barring that, I've plugged in my ds4 without any drivers or software and windows thinks it's a 360 pad right off the bat, and in some games it's interpreted as a ds4 like MGS5 and Mad Max.
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Target is selling duracell 2500mAh 4 batteries for 10 bucks

that's a good deal
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>>333826213
>Sony is overpriced
Of course. You buy name branded products, you're paying a premium for the name alone. It's the same with everything.
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>>333826358
Duracell is better and cheaper

These japs are not good merchants.
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>>333826436
I know m8, I'm not saying it's right, just explaining why it is. Sony has quite a bit more prestige than Duracell.
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>>333826491
When I think good batteries I usually think of Duracell and Varta, not Sony.
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BTW one thing I noticed when I visited japan is that the products sold there are from China but better quality than the ones sold on the west

Jap companies like Sony get the good stuff from china to sell in japan and the 2nd line for the west
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I remember in 2001-2002 the Dual Shock 2 I bought in Japan was better than the Dual Shock 2 I bought in Spain
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>>333826595
Of course Duracell is a respected brand in it's market, but Sony has enough mainstream appeal that they can apparently get away with overpricing their Sony branded batteries. Fuck it would be the same if Nike had its own sports drink or energy bars that were overpriced, or Gatorade made some sweatshirts or something. Blame the normies.
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>>333826609
I've been to Japan a few times but never noticed this at all. Got any specific examples?
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can someone explain to me why people think this configuration is more comfortable than what Sony controllers have?

I mean I guess I could understand it for games that rely heavy on dpad (like most 2D games) but for anything that relies on moving with left analog and controlling camera with right analog (like most modern 3D games), this seems uncomfortable as fuck...

So why are people praising this configuration so much?
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>>333826985
Other than the dual shock 2, blank dvds from Sony sold there was better than the ones I got from Netherlands
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>>333827056
Different people like different things. I happen to enjoy both, so whatever.
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How the hell are these cavemen holding their controller to damage it so? Worst I've got is a little paint rubbing off.
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>>333827056

It's actually very comfy in you hands.

Speaking of wich: i may purchase some things in the future, already have a 360 pad, should I throw in a xbone controller?
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>>333822340
>the triggers touch whatever surface the controller is laying on and are prone to being pushed accidentally whenever setting down the controller
Why do they still do this?
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>>333827257
If you had a launch controller with the rubber still hanging on, you're one of the lucky ones. It's a well known issue that effected shitloads of ds4's before they had a new model that changed it. It's well documented, and clearly not due to misuse. Educate yourself my friend, the "Werks on my machine," thing is cute and all but please try to apply yourself.
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>>333827428
They don't do it at all on the DS4. Notice they curve upwards, specifically to counter that.
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>>333827056
it is alright once you get used to it.
what i hate on those sticks is that if you sweat while playing a game (for instance in games you get nervous in) dead skin collects in the circular ring of that analog stick which is nasty.
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>>333827452
Looks like a bunch of cavemen who were putting the entire weight of their body on the lip of the controller then bitching that it got damage.
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>>333827553
Looks like you're a fucking retard that needs to educate himself.
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>>333827593
Sure anon. Link me to some credible sources that confirm your information
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>>333822671
it's madcatz.
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>>333827691
Sony themselves admitted it was a problem and would replace controllers on request. Educate yourself.
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>>333827825
I'm perfectly willing to believe that Anon, just link me to a source. Or are you just making claims then telling me to go find proof of your claims for you?
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>>333827965
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2014/01/27/sony-responds-to-dualshock-4-wearing-tearing/
It's not even hard to find anon. Are you happy being spoonfed?
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>>333828037
>Asking someone to adhere to the burden of proof is being 'spoon fed'
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>>333828108
When said proof is already a very basic google search away, yes, it is spoonfeeding. If it were hard to find I could understand, but you didn't even make an attempt to find out for yourself.
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>>333822340
only if you use it on ps4
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>>333822340
This controller has so many fucking gimmicks its not even funny.

>share button
>lights
>speaker
>touchpad

The fuck is wrong with sony? They should have cut all this garbage out and made the analog triggers good like the xbones.

Stupid chinks and their gimmicks.
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>>333823209
I can enjoy 30 hours of uninterrupted usage, you have to stand up and remain wired every 3 hours

Or, I have the option of getting eneloops, recharging AND being able to play for fucking hours

DS4 is shit
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Comfy
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>>333828359
thoughts on steam controller?
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>>333822340
What is the best PC controller then?
DS3 was such a fucking hassle. Why the fuck is the DS4/Xbone controllers so expensive in comparison?
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>>333822340
at least the system itself is high quality.

;)
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>>333823993
WOW THANKS DAD. SOMEDAY I'LL WORK AT NINTENDO JUST LIKE YOU!!

>>333824187
>No audio jack
This.

Also
>Right analog stick above buttons bad
This is how you spot a plebsant.

Also
>playing some PS4 game when I first got it late at night
>"Time to comfy"
>plug in headphones into audio jack
>no sound through controller

Felt bad, to be honest.
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>>333828597
Has a learning curve, can be used on a lot of games. I've tested it on FPS, TPS, Action, TBRPG, Racing, Adventure games (like D4). And so far it outclasses any other controller for these.

It does have a steep learning curve though. Plenty of things to customize. You can move any button anywhere with several different functions.

Aim breaks down into these three settings
>Mouse
>Trackball
>Analog
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>>333828183
I shouldn't have to attempt to prove your claims anon
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>>333822340
I like it and use it over my x360.
Touchpad is extremely useful, who gives a shit about the speaker, build quality is amazing and I've not had a single problem with the joystick nub wear.

LED is nice since I can customize it into any colour I want and it tells me what's the battery charge at a glance.

It's a damn great controller for pc.
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>>333828968
Said claims are easily verifiable and already common knowledge. Anon, pls.
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>>333823864
No touchpad.
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>>333829194
What can you do with the touchpad exactly?
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>>333827056
I always felt it worked better for games which have movement and camera look dedicated to the analog sticks.
I end up using the side of my thumb on my DS3, just picked it up and it was all gross and sweaty again even though I haven't used it this year.
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>>333828359
I really want the steam controller, I've played around with one and it's extremely pleasant to use. It's hard to describe the sensation of using the touchpads to someone who hasn't. Kinda like talking about mech keyboards to someone whos never heard of them.

But I just can't justify the cost over my DS4, which allready has a touchpad.
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>>333829353
But the steampad has two. Two!
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>>333828357
Dual shock 4 uses standard micro usb to charge, so it's battery life is never a problem for me personally
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>>333829259
Not having to let go of controller to play/pause/fullscreen video, use menus, navigate windows. Various ingame shit like inventory usage, managing shit on your truck in spintires etc.

You don't know what you're missing until you've used the damned thing on PC. This is why steam controller and DS4 are by far superior on PC.
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>>333829427
I'd rather get it since it allows me to play FPS's better and has more buttons, but honestly, DS4 does all I ask it of. Maybe once I get more disposable income, I'll buy it. I was extremely impressed with every aspect of the controller, all my doubts about it vanished once I held it for 5 minutes. It is a really good one and on my buy list, but for now DS4 plays everything I throw at it really well and I'm not a person that plays rts or fps with a controller anyway.
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>>333829701
I'd currently wait anyway. Valve said that they want to make a hardware revision. No new features but better look and feel. I'd hope the revision will be able to recharge the AAs and be more silent.
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>>333822685
>convex
ya no thanks
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>>333829867
I hope they make one that runs on internal battery. I fucking hate buying batteries in an age where almost everything is charged via micro usb.


Even if it ends up having a 20 minute battery life, I'd still get it over an version that uses AA batteries. Fuck paying for batteries just to ujse a controlelr.
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>>333829493
This. If you have problem with it's 4 hour battery life, then the battery is not a problem, you are.

I play tethered most of the time anyway. It's not like everyone doesn't have 5000 usb wall chargers and micro usb cables laying around literally everywhere.
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>>333822340
>L1 and R1 keys wear down and gum themselves up with their own white dust every other month if used daily

Sorry, but its build quality is absolute shit.
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>>333823358
>How do you change weapons in shooters?
With the number keys
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>>333831125
>you're the problem
>4 hour battery life
>wireless

I dunno anon, you sure sound retarded. Are you sure the controller isnt the problem? I guess its totally acceptable for a battery to be that fucking bad, I mean Wii u pro controller lasts days and days, but I mean it doesnt have a light on the front that you cant turn off.
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>>333824617
So how the hell would you do 720's or pretzels on this?
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>>333831549
This is the correct thinking
>Company sells wireless controller
>abysmal battery life
>charges via common usb cable
>"JUST KEEP IT PLUGGED IN ALL THE TIME"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wireless

what's the point?
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>>333828842
Meanwhile on pc

;)
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>>333831825
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>>333831691
Yet sonyggers will make excuses for it because they think their system has no flaws.

>it isnt a flaw if you just do this!!!
>have to do something/inconvenience yourself to negate the flaw or cope with it
>this kills the flaw

lolno
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>>333831691
> JUST KEEP IT PLUGGED IN ALL THE TIME

Nigger, Theres atleast 6 hours of battery time unplugged when fully charged. You're free to go wireless then
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>>333830945
It comes with batteries, if they're rechargeable it would be exactly the same as an internal one, except you can replace them when they lose charge. Much more future proof.
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>>333830945
You do know they sell rechargeable AA batteries with a charger for less then a battery pack for a XB1 controller.
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>>333831549
This man, Wii U Pro is so comfy and that battery life is amazing. Easily the best 8th gen controller without-a-doubt.
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>>333832151
>6 whole hours
>My Wii U pro controller does 80 easy

I think I'll stick with what's good.
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>>333822340
next to the n64 and gamecube and sixaxis its the worst controller i have ever used.

its uncmfitable cheaply made and has the worst triggers ever made even worse than the ds3 if possible.

what the actual fuck where they thinking?
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>>333822340
I like the Wii U Pro better (despite the shitty glossy plastic) but the DS4 is pretty good. DS3 felt like one of these cheap chinese controllers for PS1, if the home button worked I would use the Pro or DS4 on my PS3.
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>Leave dual shock 2 Controllers in shelf when I get new console.
>Open up shelf to take something unrelated out and notice the analog sticks are fucking covered in some sticky material

The fuck is that shit
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>>333834116
semen
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>>333834116
Low quality rubbers. It's basically decomposing.
Basically just shitty Sony quality
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DS2 and Wii U Pro are better.

Fuck analog triggers. Why do they exist?
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>>333834362
Racing games
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>5 hour battery life
>R2 trigger exploding if you look at it wrong
>worthless touchpad
>blinding LED that shows up in TV screen if playing in the dark
>dropped it once and the corner cracked open

meanwhile my 10 year old 360 controller still works and last a month on 2 AA batteries.
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>>333824492
To be fair the Xbone doesn't use rechargeable batteries though
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>>333831549
unless you're a no life wortheless neet piece of shit that does more harm than good to the mankind, you will not be having 20 hour sessions.

Most adult die hard nintendo fans are worthless neet pieces of shit anyway so it's the perfect controller.
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>>333822340
>speaker
Seriously the only time I've ever heard thing do anything is while playing infamous first light.

What games does that thing even sound on?
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>>333828359
God damn Microsoft just HAD to be different with its button layout. Now the A and B buttons and the X and Y buttons are in the wrong place on every PC controller ever for the rest of time. I hate it so much. I will never get used to them being in the wrong place.
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>>333834704
Then turn off the goddamn light. It's not hard to do.
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>>333822340
So they still use that garbage-tier rubber on the analog sticks? Goddamn, Sony.
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>>333822340
the sticks only did that before launch and shortly after launch. It was pretty much immediately fixed.
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>>333837672
The battery life is still abysmal with the light off, not to mention it requires opening the damn thing when it should be a toggle in the console settings.
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>>333828357
Replaced the battery on my DS4 for about $10, now it lasts about 12 hours. Plug it in at night and I never have to worry about it dying
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>>333822981
Hm, so the bumpers for new XBone controllers don't have that weird "dead zone" where it doesn't work at all?
I've been playing with my old XBone controller a lot lately, and that shit was hella annoying before I got used to it.
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>>333840724
Yes, the bumpers were fixed in the newest version of the bone controller.
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