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What do you pick, /v/?
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>>333811428
If I have to pick:
3. Are you talking to me?

But I'd say it in a non-confrontational manner, because for all I know the poor sod's just asking for help with something.
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>>333811428
#5, shaggy, unkempt manlets have absolutely no right to talk to me.
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>>333811428
I pick up a knife and gouge my eyes out because the graphics are somehow worse than BG1. That fucking ground and those motherfucking rocks, jesus christ.
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>>333811428
I pick "complain to the dev and writer that there is no bawdy and disrespectful answer."
This reminds me of this BG2 mod where all the options range from "kill him for speaking to a woman", to "sexism against men is impossible, so this answer isnĀ“t sexist".
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>>333811428
4. Call me wench one more time. One more time, I dare you.

Voghlin: Aye aye, wench!

1: Courageous! I like that in a man.
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>>333811428
Why did we need 4 options for the "Respect me"-answer?
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>>333811428
Does he say sorry if you pick any of those options?
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>>333811428
woulda replied with "sup manlet"
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>mfw the writing in this "expansion"
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>>333815373
It's not like Irenicus or BG2 was the epitome of good writing either.
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>>333815525
They were certainly much better written than this.
And the most important thing is that the responses weren't this infantile tier retarded.
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>>333811428
>5 options
>4 of them have you react in identical ways
QUALITY ROLEPLAYING OPPORTUNITIES
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>>333815595
Yes, it was better. But comparing bad writing with worse writing doesn't make the bad writing good.
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>>333811428
>no flirt option
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>>333811428
Any option that doesn't play out like one of those blatantly fabricated tumblr tales about someone humbling a sexist strawman and then being applauded by bystanders?
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>>333811428
>4 responses which are basically the same thing

You just know some bitch wrote this.
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Can someone catch me up to speed with all this?

I thought Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 came out a long time ago, how do they have tumblr shit in them?
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>>333817861
Wait, so they really changed the writing of the game? I bought the steam version a few days ago expecting the original game, am I fucked?
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>>333818004
There's not a way to just mod the new release to the original version?
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>plugging your disgusting political ideals and biases into a game as if anyone gives a shit what your opinion is

Why do these dirty smelly rat fuckers think this will earn them more money? If any of you greasy awful developers by any happen chance see this thread and comment please do the world a favor and take a business course at a university, god knows it's probably the most valuable thing you'll have ever have done with your time in an academic setting you fucking hipster shit.
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>>333819380
mostly because ppl like you give it attention and energy. other people see this, such as the gay community and they see it as hate so they cling to bioware shit out of spite. thats what i think anyway
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>>333812585
is this an actual answer? if so then that's pretty good
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>>333817908
Just downgrade to patch 1.3 to get rid of the new sprites + UI and you'll be fine. I don't think EE added any new NPCs that aren't related to the new party members.
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>>333811428
>2.
What the fuck is this lazy writing, he just said hi, not "can I join you?"
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>>333815697
do you even know whom you face?
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>>333811428
>1: And with that, the conversation was over.

I can only picture some rainbow colored dyke with hipster glasses saying that.
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>>333820506
>the new sprites
Seriously WHAT. THE FUCK. Were they thinking?
>We want the cel-shading crowd
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>No options to give shit back and engage in bant to bant combat.

That shit was what make Edwin so great as a companion.
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>>333820875
He was lucky that Imoen decided to use magic and that the Cowled Wizards didn't gag or imprison him and that he was able to take over Spellhold and that the drow decided to follow him and..
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>>333815697
>But comparing bad writing with worse writing doesn't make the bad writing good.
Now you only need to provide evidence to your claim that irenicus was badly written.
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>>333815373

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdy-k_qLdQg
>mfw
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>>333821245
Evidence is the entirety of BG2. Irenicus does not have the capability to carry the role of being the main antagonist in the game.
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Playing through SoD currently after just redoing 1 and holy shit going through the entry area was fine even with the annoying loss of Imoen, but then get to BG and sure there were a fair number of times I could act how I wanted my character to act but there were also a good amount where I had "no say" and just had to go with the least worst option.
Then Safana who was great in 1 is now just being an absolute cunt non-stop for some reason.
She was also the only party member I wanted out of the lackluster lineup to join me so I was stuck with just me and her until the archer captain joined, not sure if I'll keep her but eh.
Edwin showed up out of nowhere and fuck it I'll take him for now because there's fucking nobody else.
The quests in BG were pointless and just served to annoy me, the ones in the first map are okay so far and the fights have been alright.
Thankfully that stupid hippie encounter in BG allowed you to act like someone who isn't retarded and still get the loot from the guy.

I dunno I'm expecting it to be mildly average for a campaign but maybe it'll have its moments.
Mainly I'm just slogging through it to get to 2, which I'll probably rush to save Imoen as fast as possible as I want her cute buttin my main party.
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>>333821646
Oh also for some reason there are a fuckload of magical items that are only sort of useful if you're a very specific race/class sometimes at opportune moments.
What the fuck were they thinking?
Wow a cloak that gives halflings +5 hp and +2 AC against giants.
Wow I'll definitely use that instead of my +2 cloak of protection or +2 charisma cloak that can dire charm or even my cloak of non-detection.
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>>333821768
Is there a returning dagger/dart?
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What did you do to make the sprites so ugly? They look like they're covered in some goop. Some high-res mod?
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>>333812585
is that really what happens?
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>>333822041
Not a clue.
There is a returning axe in 1 though.
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>>333822179
Nope, it's an option in EE.
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>Bioware isn't only churning out new shit but is also retroactively ruining everything they made that was even remotely good

Well that sure seems like a good way to get respect of your fans back.

Not that it's their intention, I guess.
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>>333822363
The outlines are an option but the filter isn't.
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>>333811428

God forbid I want to play a female Bhaalspawn who is a slut and enjoys it. These SJW writers have more in common with Puritan grandmothers than with any remotely socially liberal.
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>>333811428
>Exit game
>Uninstall
>Refund
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Any tips for Ascension boss fight? 5 Bhaalspawn at the same time are fucking my ass.
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>>333822576
To be fair, that wasn't an option in any decent RPG, as far as I know - which is a shame.
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>>333822864
Ctrl+y
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>>333822972
fallout 1-2 let you do it
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>>333823029
I guess that's true, you get those perks and everything.
I'd rather do it in a comfy high-fantasy setting tho.
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>>333822864
>ascension
There's your problem.
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>that one npc you never use
What's his name /v/
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>>333823420
in this abomination or in bg1/bg2?

>khalid
fucking faggot is feared if he gets too injured
but jaheira is a solid character so you let her kill khalid and then ditch the corpse
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>>333822382
This.

To be fair though, if you heard "modern Bioware releasing expansion to beloved classic game" and weren't immediately aware they were going to violently ruin it, you have only yourself to blame.
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>>333822382
This isn't bioware, hell this isn't even black isle, this is some randoms.
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>>333812585
heh bretty good.
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>>333814046
This, the lack of quality bants in these kinds of games are staggering. Divninity did it right.
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>>333815687
welcome to third wave feminism faggot.
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>>333823579
To be frank, I don't follow modern gaming news or releases save for stuff like Dark Souls and Pathologic remake. I learned about this atrocity when I stumbled upon this thread.

Baldur's Gate wasn't even that good. It has the most stupid D&D setting, idiotic plot and subpar writing, as well as boring-ass D&D based gameplay
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>>333824569

How was the plot idiotic?
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>>333824685
>muh iron
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>>333812585
The other options are some pure trash, but if that one actually leads to that response set I'd almost let it slide.
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>>333824796

What?
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>>333820165
>>333822213
Sadly, nope. This just shows a random anon is a better writer than Beamdog's entire writing staff.
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>>333811428
The only thing missing is one of the options including the word "shitlord".
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>>333824854
I'm pretty sure anon is saying that's how you can sum up most of BG's plot. Well, at least if
>muh souls
sums up PoE, then it definitely fits.
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>>333811428
>feminist writing: the dialogue
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>>333824920
Not like is hard
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>>333825012
>I'm pretty sure anon is saying that's how you can sum up most of BG's plot

Actually, you can't, the iron crisis is only a sub-plot. But how does that make it idiotic?
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>>333811428
>No option to call him something back
>No casual banter

Into the fucking trash.
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>>333825128
It isn't, that's why it's all so sad. Fucking Amber Scott, man, How can someone be this bad at their job?
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>>333825264
By making gays and trannies characters with no deep but being gays and trannies.

Seriouslly, would anybody care if the tranny had a quest to get a sexchange potion or something?
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>>333825714
/v/ would
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>>333825845
Put it in a pedestal like Arcade Gannon you mean?
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>>333826049
Obsidian can do no wrong though
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What angers me the most is that a bunch of assholes at Beamdog, who have little to none connection go the original game feel entitled to 'improve' upon it. It's nothing more than fan content that is somehow legitimised because they were able to obtain the licence. This is definitely non canon content.
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>>333825258
Thats the actual problem. Most of those answers are the same answer.
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>>333822972
Pillars of Eternity gives resting bonuses for being with prostitutes. Also has more complex reputation system and doesn't punish you for being evil, unless you're really evil, and then everyone will just obviously hate you.

But if nobody sees you slaughter a town, well...

Anyhow I don't play as an evil edgelord (more clever and deceptive, praise Wael) but I appreciate that the option is there.

Honestly I couldn't go back to BG and am still debating on SoD. I'll probably skip it. I'm just too spoiled by PoE.
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>>333826995
He said decent rpg
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>>333826679
Pretty much. But even then, saying you want to improve on the originals is one thing, but you don't go around insulting Black Isle and their fans by calling BG sexist.

They committed financial suicide, and they don't even understand how. That's both hilarious and incredibly sad at the same time.
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>>333811428
Fuck
Is nothing sacred anymore?
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>>333827087
I've played PoE with white march 1 & 2 for 80 hours recently and having no outside feelings going into it, it's probably the best overall CRPG yet made, in the top three without a doubt as a video game, provided you are playing on Hard

I've played almost every noteworthy CRPG by the way, certainly every big-name classic as they are now considered

The PoE hatred is one of the absolute dumbest most facebook-tier fads I've seen in my life coming entirely from people with no perspective or taste in a video game or out and out casuals who lick the dicks of "classics" they barely played
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>>333827475
>t. J Sawyer
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>>333826049
Arcade is gay?
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>>333827904
Not that guy, but what's so bad about it?
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>>333822864
Go for the archer first. Abuse summons like the planetar. Got Vhailors Helmet? Abuse the Simulacrum. Prepare a wish spell and a few potions of wisdom to get some of the better options. Just greater whirlwind the fuck outta everyone.
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>>333819380
I mean I'm a greasy awful developer but I don't have time to take a business course because I'm studying electrical engineering at a top public school and only program as a hobby
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>>333821242
are you retarded? His plan was never to go to Spellhold. He just improvised from there. It's more like the protag is lucky that amn had the anti-wizard laws because otherwise he would just have grabbed the protag and imoen right there.

>able to take over Spellhold
how is that lucky and not showcasing his power?

Your mistake is thinking he is some kind of master planner type of enemy, and that he had somehow predicted everything that happens in the game, but there is no evidence of that.
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>>333821608
How about actual evidence instead of
>I didn't like it so it's bad

Nothing he does in the game is implausible for an epic level wizard.
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>>333827475
>>333826995
Completely agree. Aside from the very regrettable decision of allowing backers to write those gold-plated NPCs, it's been hard for me to come up with legit criticisms of the game.

I think "godlikes" are kind of dumb and it took me awhile to get used to the mechanics. But that's understandable, it's new (thank fucking god a game in this genre is willing to ditch the kludgy AD&D system) I love all the trait/skill checks, the art/music/voicing is beautiful, combat's balanced but challenging and you can make it as hard as you want by trying a huge array of tactics and party lineup.

I go back and forth on how I feel about the soul stuff. In a way I think "oh, soul stuff, haven't seen that before, blah" but also it's a really unique take that does work in the end. The take on gods towards the end was good.

It could handle having more levity though I generally appreciate Durance and Eder's dry humor more than GO 4 THE EYES BOO LOLRANDUM stuff anyhow.
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>>333825845

No actually this was pointed out here as an acceptable alternative from the moment this shit started.
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>>333828326
>but there is no evidence of that
Yoshimo
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>>333827991
Can't be arsed, just check the archive, there's like 100 "PoE is shit" threads
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>>333816761
No. Welcome to modern game design. If it doesn't appeal to the group who screams the loudest then it doesn't make it into the game. Fuck the fans.
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>>333828762
>backup spy just in case shit happens is evidence he predicted everything

nah. Yoshimo is evidence of why him expecting and knowing about your shit ins't unreasonable because he has a spy right there.
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>>333828767
So you're just parroting /v/.
Okay, good to know.
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>>333828925
Say the guy parroting paid review
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>>333828767
Looks like the complaints are "It's too hard" and "I can't read"
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>>333827335
The desecration hasn't even begun.
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>>333828959
I literally only asked you why you said it was bad though.
I haven't even played the game yet.
Try to make up your own opinions, friend.
/v/ isn't always right.
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>>333824796
It's worse. The whole region is sabotaged and made helpless because one level 3 dude sits in a mine with a few dozen kobolds.
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>>333811428
This looks like one of those Fallout 4 conversation trees with the mod.

Nice work Beamdog. You made Bioware look competent.
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>>333829089
>trash mobs every five steps and no reward for killing them
>golden lesbian wizard npc everywhere
>almost no reaction from npc for playing godlike
>autistic balance
>hardest difficulty add even more trash mobs
>Wikipedia-like loredump
>straightforward dungeon with no puzzle or mini boss
>boring story
>stuck in the most unoriginal part of the world
>game breaking bugs at release
>rtwp
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>>333829423

I understand Amber James and her ilk; anyone who has endured a typical creative writing 101 in a university has. Unfortunate, but predicable.

What I don't understand is the people who hired her thinking yes, this person will improve the quality of our product. She already had a poor track record.
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>>333829086
No.

Not Torment.

You don't get to touch it.

You don't get to touch it.

YOU DON'T GET TO TOUCH IT

YOU DON'T GET TO TOUCH IT

YOU DON'T GET TO TOUCH IT

RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>333829086
>>333829852
Just make sure this shit here bombs.
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>>333829423
I wouldn't be too worried. There isn't any rewriting in the Enhanced Editions, only new writing is related to new characters.
Tab-highlight on clickables etc would be nice.
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>>333829974
>User reviews: Mostly Positive
>siege of dragonspear bombing
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>>333830061
https://www.gog.com/game/baldurs_gate_siege_of_dragonspear
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>>333811428
quit the game because it physically hurts me to look at it
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>>333829516
Thank you, that does sound pretty shitty.
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>>333830142
GOG has a 5% market share.
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>>333828326
>It's more like the protag is lucky that amn had the anti-wizard laws
If Irenicus didn't know that, considering the time he must have spent in Athkalta, that using magic required a license and if he knew, that he was unable to get 5000 gold to pay for such license, you have to question his intelligence.

>how is that lucky and not showcasing his power?
The cowled wizards could easily have disabled him in a multitude of ways but thank god for PLOT POWERS.
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>>333830205
ha ha how funi!
you forgot cucking lmao!
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>>333830205
There weren't any rewrites.
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>>333829516
>>autistic balance
what
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>>333829086
Thats dumb shit should come naturally amd.consciously. Sincecin the end one can only genuinely write from thier perspective and has to take guess here or there when it comes "diversity" charcter who.usally just end up token.


Like fuck how.much self loathing do these people ha e that they have to do that tyoe of dumb shit just to feel.better about themselves. Like god damn as a "diversity" person myself im offened as all hell and probably.going.to.go. eat some tacos to make myself.feel.better before work. Like shit.man seriously fucl them dumb nerds so.full of themselves.
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Remember to pirate the originals; or if you want to buy the originals they are only available until April 29th. Same goes for IWD.
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>>333830205
>The banter between you and Morte would be practically ruined and peppered with SJW bullshit.
>Deionarra doesn't call you her 'love' because she's a strong, independent ghost who don't need no nameless one.
>The heavy shit the original game dealt with goes out the fucking window because they want to pander to a tiny group of whiny, bitchy individuals.
>The story ends with the Nameless One sending himself to hell not because he wants to atone for his sins, but because he was a SEXIST BIGOT in one of his past lives.
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>>333830624
Are you ok? You're glitching
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>>333830624
Now I'm not going to say I disagree, but I will say that this is the type of post that would get screencapped to disparage your point of view.
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>>333827475
>best overall CRPG yet
have you tried Divinity: Original SIn?

its turnbased which makes the combat extremly rewarding

the plot is pretty good aswell, and the writing is fantastic if you dont mind a mix between serious & silly
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>>333830648
Good i already own them.

Was worth the 15 bucks.
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>>333830737
Kek

>>333830624

Oh, but you need to be defending by white middle/upper class ugly women. You're just too weak to take care of yourself, that's why you need the SJWs.
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>>333830575
Game was rebalanced every few weeks because the developers had no idea what to do with the system. Good luck discussing the game because no one played the same version
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>>333830648
What, are GOG removing them or does Beamdog not want the competion?
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>>333815525
The voice acting was so good it elevated the story overall though.
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>>333830648
>Only available until Aril 29th

I don't get it, what happens after April 29th?

Guys? What aren't you telling me?
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post yfw you bought this shit
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>>333831074

I suspect the latter, though it's probably WotC to make that decision, who knows. You will still be able to get the originals, but not without paying for the EEs. So what do you think most new players will go for, not knowing any better?

>On April 29, Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition, and Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition will be expanded to include the classic versions ā€“ each becoming the Definitive Edition Bundle and not available for purchase separately. If you already own the classics on GOG.com, the games currently on your shelf won't be affected.

https://www.gog.com/news/definitive_edition_bundle_baldurs_gate_i_ii_icewind_dale
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>>333831074
Beamdog doesn't want competition so they convinced Atari to bundle the classic versions with Beamdogs versions.

After the 29th you can only get the classics by buying Beamdogs version. And they might even change the classic versions as well.
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>>333831053
Holy fuck you're /pol/tarded
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>>333831312
>mfw people buy games they dont know are good

you should only support devs who geniunely deserve your money
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>>333831312
That was my face when I was stupid enough to buy BG1:EE

>>333831419
>>333831480
That's even worse than removing them all-together, like Bethesda did with the Fallout-games. Welp, Beamdog confirmed even more shit.
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>>333830648
>inb4 they give them out for free like they did with Fallou 1 & 2
Glorious
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>>333831132
They're removing the classic versions off the internet.
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I bought the original Baldur's Gate games.
I didn't buy this piece of shit.

Feels good man.
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>>333831635

At leaset Bethesda's laziness kept them from fucking with it much at all. I understand Beamdog tried to do EEs of the first 2 Fallouts, as well.
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>>333827475
>it's probably the best overall CRPG yet made
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>>333831613
>hurr there will be transfats in your vidya!
>that is, unless you act like a nationalist manchild
Yeah, because making retarded strawman jokes will somehow prevent a calamity
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>>333831563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjdlpYd-z7o
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>>333827475
my thoughts exactly. It was not as good at launch but the game in its current state is quite good.
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>>333829516
Occasionally feels like there's some trash mobs, but this is the same with any cRPG. It's wrong that you don't get rewards, you get loot and a certain amount of XP for filling up your bestiary with knowledge about them, up to 100%, and you do this by killing them.
>try to sleep a few times in a row in IE games, oh hi a group of the area's random enemies, I can do this a couple times and grind some XP, wow my immersion

>golden lesbian wizard npc everywhere
I don't know what this means

>almost no reaction from npc for playing godlike
this is a clever ploy for punishing retards who actually play as godlike

>autistic balance
?

>hardest difficulty add even more trash mobs
And adjust their skill. Multiple difficulty settings is a negative?

>Wikipedia-like loredump
There's no pleasing everyone on this issue, but BG/etc rides on the d&d/etc coat-tails, so if you were new to that you would probably also tear up at how much reading you'd have to do. I think PoE introduced it well, and you don't have to give a shit about the lore. If Kana starts reminiscing about Rauatai you can just tell him to stop talking, etc.

>straightforward dungeon with no puzzle or mini boss
I don't even know how to respond to this. First, there's Od Nua, which is not straightforward, has puzzles, and even I guess mini bosses. Also there's the thing happening in Dyrford village. Plenty of others.

>boring story
It wasn't spectacular, most of the good stuff is off the main quest

>stuck in the most unoriginal part of the world
I too would like to explore the Living Lands!

>game breaking bugs at release
Didn't experience this
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>yfw Beamdog get their hands on Arcanum
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>""""""""""role-playing"""""""""" game
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>>333828767
you mean the complaints that people had at launch and are still bringing up even though they have been fixed?
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>>333831419
Fuck it, if Beamdog has to be this shit, I will make a true Enhanced and Definitive Edition torrent based on a BGT install and I will do it for free.
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>>333832038
/pol/tard confirmed
Go back to your cage, freak
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>>333831874
>I don't know what this means

He means that some retard had to shoehorn some shitty story about two gay wizards being oppressed and ridiculed by a society for being different. I know that because I stopped bothering with those golden plated npcs after reading that garbage.
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Told you from the start that Beamdog are hacks and that you shouldn't give them any money.

But no - You idiots fucking bought the Enhanced Editions because you love Steam and Achievements so much.
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>>333832038

It's more like just throwing your hands up and saying "Well, it's fucked". Unions blew their collective wad a long time ago and things are going to have to get very bad again. The US hasn't experienced the joys of authoritarian leftism yet. (Hospitals are mostly at this level now in the US, at least for most blue collar workers and the poor).
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>>333832094
You can always pirate
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>>333829086
Oh no. No no.
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>>333832253
http://steamcommunity.com/stats/228280/achievements/
doesn't really look like it.
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>>333831726
Oh.

Oh no.

Why? what the fuck is their reasoning behind that? Why would you get rid of a classic, especially when there are a valid amount of complaints about the 'updated' versions? The SJW bullshit isn't even what bothers me the most. It's the fact that they add a couple of unnecessary bells and whistles and then slap a fifteen dollar pricetag on a game over a decade old!

Holy shit. I haven't been this pissed over videogames since EA sunk Pandemic.
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>>333832183
The gold-plated NPCs were written by backers, should be avoided at all costs, and killed when no one's watching.
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>>333832268
Oh, I will. But I will make the pirated version better than the store-bought and will make it available to others as well.
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>>333831972
>the [complaints] have been fixed?
Only the removal of the Minsc line, and patches of incredibly awful bugs. They never fixed the fucking hideous writing.

It's still not worth your money. Don't give these people your money.
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>>333832268
Will be hard to find a non-fucked version in the future though.

>Beamdog remove the option to buy the old untouched version
>bundle it with their game so they get money for sure
>change the old version for the worse so everyone uses Enhanced now
>barely anyone will bother to backup the old version because Enhanced is always available via torrent and most pirates are as dumb as paying faggots
>Beamdogs version will be the one to survive forever while the classic gets forgotten
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>that feel when there'll never be another RPG where if you set your base INT low enough your character is incapable of speaking to others and calls any female mommy
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>>333831874
>you get loot
Mostly useless loot
>a certain amount of XP for filling up your bestiary
Certainly not enough to justify the amount of mob everywhere, it's like playing a jrpg
>I don't know what this means
Kickstarter npc
>this is a clever ploy for punishing retards who actually play as godlike
Just like how the game being shit is a clever ploy for punishing retards who actually bought it?
>Multiple difficulty settings is a negative?
It is when they're bad
>if you were new to that you would probably also tear up at how much reading you'd have to do
I played IE games with zero knowledge about D&D and never felt the need to read about it, the meme about those game being text heavy must stop.
>Also there's the thing happening in Dyrford village
You mean that dungeon with that same group of mob copy pasted 20 times? It sure was great
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>>333832481

All the more reason to preserve a lore friendly modded BGI/II. GoG's storepage for the originals links to a reasonably good mod guide, though it doesn't include Wheels of Prophecy which I have heard is worth using. Also it's unclear to me what banter packs are worth getting without being cringey shit.
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>>333831880
Stop Anon. I'm afraid.

>>333832108
Don't act like they aren't always right.
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>>333832724
>Don't act like they aren't always right.
No, you aren't.
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>>333832740
What is that? Source?
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>>333832740
>saying it makes it true!!!
Also I would laugh my ass off at anyone defending BG companions. But why am I defending PoE in a BG thread?

I used to love BG, sunk a fuckton of hours into it, but it's aged and built on a system that works (sort of) for tabletop but not computers, the graphics are shit, I can't go back to it. PoE has flaws for sure, but it's a very good game, and I'm glad people are bringing back cRPGs.
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>>333833190
From Sawyers twitter according to google
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>>333833190
https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/717476166437720064
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>>333833234
>But why am I defending PoE in a BG thread?
You feel the need to defend your shitty purchase
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>>333832740
But they're pretty good.
Most of them are fucking top tier and the barter between them is pretty damn good.
Eder is the fucking best
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>>333833373
Is that also why there are people defending EE?
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>>333830730

>you are...the genderless one

What can change the gender of man?
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>>333833468
EE before the last patch was better than the original though
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>>333833373
No, I think it's more that I'm having breakfast and wasting time. My 100+ hours without touching white march 2 yet defends my purchase.

I think if I had went ahead and bought SoD though, I'd be a little salty. Looking at OP pic, holy shit, unplayable. My nostalgia doesn't even overpower that.
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>>333833272
>>333833336
>GDC talk
>spends an hour talking about attribute tuning

Jesus Christ, enough with the fucking game balance Sawyer.
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>>333833530
Regret that he was born a man
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>>333832690
>lore freindly

I hate to break it to you, but dragonspear is on par with BG classic as "lore friendly" as far as that COMPLETELY pointless statement is for FR.
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>>333833618
At least he actually puts emphasis on game/rpg mechanics. I personally commend him for that.
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>>333833618
D&D has had since what, the 70s? And still fails hard.
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>>333833631

Kek
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>>333833560
>Breakfast at 5pm
Get it together anon
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>>333833618
>Game Developer Conference
Did you think it's a press release or something?
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>>333833618
>not involved in tranny
It might actually be fun
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>>333831874
>>almost no reaction from npc for playing godlike
>this is a clever ploy for punishing retards who actually play as godlike
The lore tells you Godlikes are seen as badomens and even killed on the spot.
The first town is going crazy and accusing each other of the baby curse but you being a Godlike is ignored.
How the fuck is punishing at all? If anything is the opposite
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>>333811428
I choose to not play SOD.
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>>333833564
>voting for con-man because of video games
Lmao america
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>>333834435

>voting for a socialist ever

Better dead than red, commie.
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>>333833336
This talk is really fascinating thanks

>>333834306
Well my breakfast is over so I won't be defending PoE anymore. I think it's a great game, and I'm sorry you are so mad about buying SoD.

>>333833234
>that pic
Award winning
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>>333831880
NOOOOOO
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Tempted to have a wizard PC for a Bladur's gate playthrough. Should I go with Wild Mage or Sorcerer starting from BG1?
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>>333835076
Wild mage
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>>333811428
Why can't I be a slut or submissive type or someone who's opposed to being calling a wench without sounding like an insecure passive aggressive babby or overly violent retard?

I'd say "Are you talking to me?"
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>>333835076
Wild mage is pretty fun. If you want to do a solo playthrough pick Sorcerer.
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>>333834685
Enjoy your college debt.
>if an american doesn't want to vote for con-man meme he has to vote for a socialist
sasuga america
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>>333835396
Who are you voting for then?

Don't tell me Cruz/Clinton
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>>333835131
>>333835260
Thanks, looking through the Wild Mage list, you get the specialist advantage of extra slots without the school lockout. The random effects should be fun though.
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>>333835527
I am not even American. It would be probably for the best if Obama stayed around until candidates aren't TOTAL shit. But honestly, out of all those Bernie isn't even bad.
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>>333835076
I wouldn't recommend sorcerer for a long game like BG. Wizard is more fun because it lets you collect spells and have more variety.
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fuck off to /pol/
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>>333835741
>The random effects should be fun though.
>Wild surge: turned to stone
>automatic game over
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>>333835741
The best thing is being able to cast level 9 spells by using a level 1 spell
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Did she touch Sarevok or Irenicus?
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>>333836039
Irenicus is in the expansion, I heard is admirative of the Mary Sue villain
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>>333835884
From what I've read though, the stone is 1/200, and that's if the wild surge triggers.
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>>333828582
>it's been hard for me to come up with legit criticisms of the game.
The plot is boring, the setting is boring and I didn't care about anything that was happening

I had more fun doing the Adra Dragon dungeon
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Has magic gone too far?
Do you prefer low magic or high magic campaigns?
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>>333835076
Wild mage but only if you aren't a reloading shitter. The funnest part is casting and mentally preparing for the worst outcome. When you're higher level you won't have to worry about bad side effects as often.
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>>333836362
Low-magic, definately.
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>>333836362
Low/mid-magic
I find spending ages prebuffing boring
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>>333836351
>arrive at 13th floor of Endless Paths of Od Nua
>can't progress any further below because the spirit doesn't want to give me the password for the door to open
>all that time wasted because the game bugged out

Thanks Obsidian.
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>>333832740
I thought this would be about the companion personalities, which would be weird, because almost all of them are fantastic, but he's talking about people complaining that the default companions have crap stats. Most min-maxers make their own party at an inn anyhow I would think, so I don't understand the complaint.
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>>333827475
>Honestly, I think it's really sad that RPGs essentially get a pass on having fundamentally junk core gameplay. And yes, I do consider combat to be a core gameplay element of most RPGs.

>An awesome game with a crappy ruleset would be a better game if it had a better ruleset. Again, why grit your teeth and accept fundamentally dumb systems and their dumb adaptations into different media when such things clearly could be designed and executed better?

>Project Eternity will take the central hero, memorable companions and the epic exploration of Baldurā€™s Gate, add in the fun, intense combat and dungeon diving of Icewind Dale, and tie it all together with the emotional writing and mature thematic exploration of Planescape: Torment.

PoE failed on all of those fronts and is really just a poor man's IE game with first draft writing designed by a man who dislikes Baldur's Gate. It offers nothing over the previous games other than better graphics.
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>>333836362
I prefer High Psionics+Martial Initiator focused campaigns when I GM/Play 3.5.
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>>333837836
>first draft writing
>>333833234
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>>333837965
Is that supposed to prove something
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>>333835076
Wild mage, because you're playing a game for the sake of having fun!

My first playthrough of BGT was a wild mage, and it was great. Every now and then, the most obnoxious bullshit happens to you, and that's totally okay.
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>>333811428
>5 options
>all of them mean the same thing
why
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>>333838181
Sjw
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>>333838095
It proves he is a shill
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>>333811428
damn that is some shit writing
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>tfw remember like a few months ago BeamDog was getting hailed as the True Successor to Black Isle that would Make CRPGS Great Again (tm)

hahaha fags
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>>333825264
>How can someone be this bad at their job?
Here's something that might answer your question
>I spent six years as a freelance writer before returning to school to pursue my business degree.
This person cares for the social cause of art & culture, but not the production of it.
Try to find a published or printed short story, novel, article or essay written by Amber.
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>>333838342
Source
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>>333838260
It's not even the shilling that's bugging me at this point, it's the awful railroad design. Would it have killed them to give her an option to suck it up, even if it ends badly in the name of "muh message"?
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>>333817648
Its SoD expansion which came out a few weeks ago
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>>333837836
>better graphics
It looks like garbage. Who's idea was it to put those thick, tacky outline on everything? It looks worse than the '98 original. That's kind of impressive, to take assets from a game that's nearly 2 decades old, and to make them somehow worse.
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>Actually, if you play on the Core Rules difficulty setting (and above) the fiends that you encounter in Avernus are very close to their 2E AD&D counterparts in terms of stats and abilities. However, if you play on Normal or Easy, then the fiends don't use their most powerful abilities at all and will employ other abilities far less frequently than they should. That said, fiends in 2E AD&D are generally weaker than in D&D 3.x both in terms of stats and available abilities.

>As for Belhifet himself, on Core Rules and above, you need a +3 weapon (these are very rare in SoD) to hit him and his stats and abilities are pretty much on pair with what he had in Icewind Dale. However, if you play on Normal or Easy, Belhifet only requires a +2 weapon to hit and like the other SoD fiends, he uses his spell-like abilities far less frequently.


>To summarize, the PnP accuracy of SoD enemies entirely depends on the difficulty setting that you are playing on. On Core Rules and above, enemies get everything that they are supposed to get in PnP, but on Normal and Easy, they don't

The encounters sound fun in SoD. They should replace all the writers.
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>>333838779
Learn reading comprehension dipshit
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>>333811428
>yes
>slightly annoyed yes
>fuck you but yes
>joking but yes
god damnit bethesda
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>>333838461
Giving people options in what they do is anathema to the regressive left--it's kind of their whole shtick. They know what's best for everyone, all the time.
Not surprising that this turns out horribly wrong in any scenario where you should have options, like dialog choices.
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>>333838871
sorry anon
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>buy DLC
>see all this feminist shit
>see all the problems the game has: UI, font etc
>decide to refund
>pirate the dlc
>still get the achievements
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welp time to buy the originals thx guys
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>>333839614
If you do, follow the gog modding guide to install the BGT mod and the widescreen stuff. I recommend setting it to 1600x900 for a balanced level of zoom and visibility.
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>>333838342

At best there was an attitude of 'let's wait and see'. We have, and it's shit. Others have been pissed off at: the premise of an expansion set between the two games, the shoddy new characters on the EEs, the wholesale copying of existing mods without credit, and the bugs. Most would have been forgiven if the writing had been okay.
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>>333839534
>boycott a game you enjoy because of one minor feminist dialogue

Keep fighting, gator.
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>>333838342
I told everyone here to buy or pirate the originals and not get the Enhanced shit because Beamdog always smelled like they are full of shit.

People told me to fuck off and that the Enhanced Editions are just better.

Last laugh and so on.
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>>333839534
>subjecting yourself to garbage for achievements
why
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>>333830648
are they doing this with icewind dale etc too?
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>>333839753
I didn't enjoy it. I'm not even playing it. I tried to play the BG1 EE version again but since the new update you can't even play that properly.

>>333839826
I just tried it out.
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>>333839815

The loud idiots told you to fuck off. I lurked those threads because I was deciding on whether or not to hold off on a new playthrough. People like me were noting your criticisms and watching Beamdog skeptically but hoping for the best. You ended up correct. Don't mistake the loud minority for the majority.
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>>333839859

At least with Icewind Dale I. I don't believe IWDII has an EE.
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>>333811428
>not a single answer to match his wits
God forbid women having an attitude other than OH MY GOSH I AM OFFENDED
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>>333828835
Then you must scream louder than SJWs, you fucking coward.
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>>333839815
EE 1.3 still is just better though. If you're going to pirate I don't understand why you wouldn't just pirate EE.
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>>333829086
>"What can change the nature of a man?"
Sexist, excludes women and non-binary.
>"What can change the nature of a person?"
Promotes self-hate, implies a person's nature isn't as good as it already is.
End result: the question is removed from the game.
How mad will you be?
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>>333840178

It reads like those Princess Highground comics.
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I wonder if gog.com will allow redownloading of the original versions if you all ready own them, once they are removed.
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>>333811428
#6 Fuck him because he is a high test apex predator of a man
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>>333840483
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>>333839815
I have never recommended the EE versions but those that says to get it and support Beamdog is increasing even when Beamdog obviously doesn't care about BG, besides the money.
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>>333840178
That would be something a man with tits would do! Women aren't just men with tits!
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>>333840487
They will. Nobody can just take away your games.

Just like on Steam.
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>>333840476
Livid, as will many developers and writers I imagine. Torment is considered to have some of the best writing in any game ever.
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>>333811428
>Every single line shows that you're a weakling who lets words get to you
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I was only really bothered by the quality of the writing in general, and also the realization that actually it pretty well matched the writing of the originals, that bothered me too.

But after seeing how much bitching all you babies are doing, I hope they keep adding trannies and hopefully arcs that end in cuckolding no matter what choices you make, etc.

Your outrage would sustain me for years
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