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I'm really bad at this game. How many hours do I need to
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I'm really bad at this game.

How many hours do I need to put into it to gitgud?

I mean, I've been trying to get to the Smelter Demon for probably an hour now.
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>>333735948
get


good
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Kill them until they stop respawning.
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>git gud
Well, the first step is to not be a memeing faggot.
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>>333735948
how do you know you're trying to get to smelter demon if you haven't got there yet? you reading a fucking guide or something?
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>>333735948
how to video game
>observe enemy
>exploit enemy
>don't bite off more than you can chew
conglaturation you are now capable of video game
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>>333735948
Why were you fighting 4 of them at once?
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>>333735948
wewmao nigger
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>>333735948
If you've spent an hour trying to get there, you can't get good at this game no matter how many hours you put in. You're just bad at this kind of game. If you haven't figured out to pull them with ranged weapons or carefully aggro at most 2 at a time IN ONE WHOLE HOUR, you're done. Just quit. Play Tetris.
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>>333736183
I've gotten to him a couple of times but he killed me. So this is a repeat process.
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>>333735948
Lure them out one at a time dummy. Literally every area in Dark Souls is easy if you separate the enemies.
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>>333736290
Not OP and I'm trying to work that out too.

>one straight ahead
>one on the swing bridge
>one downstairs

how the fuck did he agro all three and another one?
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Eventually you'll kill the enemies off and you'll have a nice safe path to smegma demon, you skubby faggot.
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>>333736350
> Play Tetris

You do realize that Tetris has a higher skill ceiling than any of the Souls games, right?
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>>333736353
If you cant kill the smelter demon you can just skip him entirely.
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>>333735948
I feel you it took me 6-7h being in The Company Of Champions 70 dex 50 end 8 Vgr
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>>333736357
You can barely do this in this instance. Scholar introduced an increased aggro range for this particular area.
You'll have to be quick about killing them OP, because as soon as the first one is aggro'd, three (or four, can't remember) are on their way as well. I don't know why From did this, but coupled with the archers, this place can be very annoying, and is a lesson in patience
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>>333735948
is that sotfs?

why the fuck did the made their aggro like 5x the original distance?
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>>333736560
To kill The Smelter Demon I mean
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>>333736412
Only way I can think is he's trying to just do a straight run to the Smelter Demon, getting caught then trying to fight his way out.
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>>333736357
At least 3 aggro if you run to the bridge. Once you get far enough in the bridge, another one at the end aggros along with the archers. Lastly, get far enough at the end of the bridge and 3 more aggro. Usually it's not them but the archers that end up killing me because I basically get two-shot.

It's very hard to get these guys 1-on-1 as well because they all aggro together. I can't really stunlock more than one so I usually end up getting hit once or twice by another.
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>>333736838
If you're not retarded you can easily use the pillars to block the archers so you only have to deal with at most 2 at a time.
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Just give up. You'll never be good.

Faggot
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>>333737107
The arrows don't kill me. Their melee kill me.
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I summoned a sunbro for this area. Don't regret it seeing how there are so many reworked areas in SOTFS that feels like its designed better with another character.
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>>333735948
>>333735948
How I beat Smelter
>Get the Zweihander from this area (in that room if you turn right after crossing the bridge and then jump onto the broken staircase nearby and walking up top)
>upgrade Zweihander with cheap materials that I had stocked up (+6-7 I think)
>two hand the smelter
I died to him like 5 times using the drangleic sword that I couldn't upgrade because Twinkling Titanite and killed him 1st try with the Zweihander
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Guys, be nice to OP. At least he's trying to play instead of giving up the game and saying 2HARD PEPPER 2 DIE LMAO

OP, try kiting enemies and make each encounter 1 v 1. It'd help a lot.

What weapon are you using?
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>>333735948
Try going slow and killing one guy at a time. If you seriously cannot it is time to pull back , farm souls. Upgrade your weapon and level up HP/STR or DEXT.
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Just play Dark Souls 1 its the most story related.

Dark Souls 2, especially smelter demon, has some horrible hitboxes so the game is largely unfair in that way. You're expected to use unlimited healing to counter, that and the overwhelming amount of enemies
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>>333737815
>one guy at a time
But you understand it isn't like this. They aggro in packs. I can kill a few one at a time, but the rest follow quickly. Once there's more than one, I really can't help but get hit most of the time
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>>333736693
Iron Keep was meant to be a "end game" area, but people rarely died since they're really easy to kill off 1 on 1, so to fix this they made their aggro insane. By just showing yourself in the doorway you aggro 2 of them, if you get a tad bit close to the bridge you aggro 4 of them. This area is bad if you can't kill them the moment they come, but once you can 1-2 shot them it's piss easy.

Also general DAS2 thread, where can I get some decent pyromancy spells?
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>>333735948
Just use the most basic great mace.

The first one your get from the bastile.

Two-hand it and power smash everything.It makes the game a little too easy but what the hell.

Great maces make PvE easy as hell.
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Smelter Demon and getting to him was the hardest part of the game for me. I ended up just killing the knights each time so they would no longer spawn, then the walk to him was easier. Still took me over 15 tries to beat that boss though.
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>>333737380
How? All you have to do is fight them 2 at a time which is piss easy. The archers don't even use melee unless you go too close.
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>>333735948
That area is one of the harder areas in 2, it's not surprising you might have difficulty. Get a bow and try drawing aggro to each enemy one at a time, stay out of the open as much as possible.

Smelter Demon is for me a required Co op boss, his Damage spike gets a too hard to handle by about the midfight point, but with a partner you can lay enough damage on him to not worry.
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>>333738913
OP

I can get him down halfway and I usually fuck up the timing on a roll and run out of healing items. His attacks are all kinds of fucked.
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>>333735948
kill everything until they stop respawning or trick jump to broken stairs to skip enemies
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>>333735948
You have to kill them one by one, I had a similar problem, like I got to smelter, he killed me and then to get back and fight him again quickly I would rush things, which would result in me dying. DS2 should be played slowly and methodically, don't rush, kill tem one on one, same with archers, get a bow, you can knock them off into the lava.
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the souls games have a shitty setting
that grim-dark edgy bs needed to die with warhammer 2bh
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>>333737281
Nah, not going to give up. I recognize that I'm bad at this game, and probably video games overall, but I'm really enjoying it, especially the difficulty.
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>>333739874
If you're having too much of a hard time buy the joker hat and equip the soul ring and farm some souls here, each *pssst* nothing personel kid drops 920 souls, think you can get like 10-14k each time.
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>>333740121
Idk, I feel like it's my weapon. I'm using the longsword. It's been pretty nice for everything up until now. I really haven't had that hard of a time with the game sans this area. I wonder if I came here too soon.
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>>333740264
You got +10 on it yet? Also what level are you? I wouldn't recommend this area without a +10 weapon if you're new/bad at the game.
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>>333735948
Patience, young padawan. Don't get overwhelmed, and always run away if you're starting a fight you know you can't win.
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>>333740264
I went through there with a +10 Battle Axe and didn't have too tough of a time.
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>>333740457
I'm level 67 with a +7 weapon.

I haven't been able to upgrade much since I can't find any of the stones
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>>333740621
Get to the first poison area and you'll get tons of titanite, find mc duff or whatever he's called and buy some.
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>>333740621
kill people in the belltower
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>>333740746
Poison area? You mean in front of that big tower? I've gotten those but still can't get my weapon to +10. Also I don't know who that guy is. I haven't been using any guides or anything.
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>>333741170
McDuff is the blacksmith in the Lost Bastille.
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>>333741170
mc duff is extremely hard to find if you don't pay attention because the AI that helps you get to him is broken and he barely does what hes supposed to do. I just got lucky one time and he did what he should have done and he made the hole.
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>>333735948
I started playing DaS1 and it took me about 2 hours of play time to realize that the Skeletons in Firelink are a higher lvl than me and the game isnt actually that hard.

I was wondering why I was losing half my HP everytime I got hit and it took 10 hits to kill one of them
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>>333741467
I did the same thing when I first played DaS. I just assumed it was supposed to be that hard because retards were claiming it was the hardest game ever.
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OP here

Fuck that took forever.

My problem with this fight was that if I got hit twice I was dead. I feel like this is probably going to be the hardest boss in the game for me.

>>333741339
There's another blacksmith?
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>starting from the second game
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>>333742438
There are three in the game.
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>>333742438
Just wait.
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>>333742438
>There's another blacksmith?
Hes in Lost bastille behind a wall at the bottom of the stairs where the dogs are.
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>>333742710

Beating this fucker felt so good.

Not only that but he's a boss that once you figure it out and do it once, you're basically good for any other time you try to fight him (as long as you dont get greedy)
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