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Flawed perfection.
This is THE reason to own a 3DS.
Call it a mobile game or whatever, the quality of SMT shines through handheld limitations.
It can have horribly inconsistent art, wooden characters, a retarded difficulty curve and more problems, but what this game does right, it does masterfully.
Discuss.
I have never actually finished it but I love it. I think it's a great entry in the series and I don't understand the buttfrustration over it. (Besides the SMIRK shit.)
>>333654671
it's the little things like the UI that really shine
>>333654810
The UI was actually what got me to pay attention to this game, as I had previously written it off for not being another Nocturne.
I've since played a lot more games in the series, and am no longer what many refer to as a Nocturne baby.
Agreed. The setting, atmosphere and soundtrack are fucking great.
The difficulty curve was retarded and I didn't like all the the new shit they added/changed to the Press Turn system.
>know nothing about the game, but hear good stuff about it
>see it in a store one day and decide to buy it
>pretty fun, I like the whole medieval looking aesthetic
>keep going down Naraku, defeat the Minotaur and Medusa, after many tries
>suddenly the entire setting switches to a post-apocalyptic Tokyo
>battle music changes, entire new world to explore
would play again
>>333654671
Finished all routes, I regret nothing.
All I want is the DLC now but it's not avaiable in my country and the cia I got is not working for some reason. My copy is legit, I wonder if that's the problem.
>>333654671
Just beat it the other day, got the neutral route by complete accident. Fucking incredible game, immediately one of my all time favorites. If I didn't have so much on my backlog I'd have been tempted to play through it again right then and there.
>>333655816
Reaching Tokyo was easily the best part of the entire game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDsDYCI3fyc
>This starts playing
>getting lost in the worst dungeon of the game aka the overworld map
>>333654671
The world building is amazing. All the details and backstory you get by talking to NPCs and running around is on point. Also reading the descriptions for the relics never gets old. Music is 10/10. My only real gripe is no Kaneko and thats only because we havent seen him do literally anything in so long. Well outside of the DMC4SE cover but I dont know how that is supposed to work.
>>333656638
>no Kaneko
Apparently he was heavily involved in the setting and world building.
>>333656638
>Also reading the descriptions for the relics never gets old.
"Women's Toy" cracks me up every time. Skateboard's funny too.
>>333654671
What does it do masterfully then?
I though it was alright, but I find it hard to enjoy turn-based JRPGs because they have a problem with non-boss encounters being pointless speed bumps/resource dispensers and nothing more.
From what little I've played of Nocturne, it seemed to buck this trend to some extent but SMTIV does not do this at all, it feels regressive in that way.
At least you can pretty easily ignore said encounters after they're no longer useful to you and hence have no purpose, though.
This is the only SMT game I've finished or put more than a few hours into. I loved it. What SMT game should I head to next, given that info?
>>333658996
Strange Journey is closer, Nocturne is great as well. Branch off to other games from there
>>333658996
Would help to know what SMTs you've tried already. If you're not fond of dungeons and prefer focusing on combat/story, Devil Survivor Overclocked would be fantastic. If you want more dungeon exploration, Strange Journey (or Soul Hackers for an easier start) is also good.
>>333655816
I wish I wasn't spoiled about what's at the bottom of Naraku
Still a fucking cool moment
>>333659417
its hard not to know if you've heard anything about the game or have played another title before
based on how they structured the mikado map and stuff there's really nowhere else tokyo could have been
>>333659417
>MFW it was my first SMT game and I went in completely blind
>Totally fucking blown away when I got to Tokyo
The best
>>333659417
I don't think knowing about that constitutes being spoilt.
Unless you walk in knowing literally almost nothing about the game or series at all like this lucky motherfucker >>333659596 there's really no way you couldn't have known.
I'm fucking pissed. I worked hard to get to the neutral route for my first play through and ended up being SO fucking neutral that the Alignment lock will switch me to either Chaos or Law.
That's fucking bullshit.
I love it.
>>333658778
>I though it was alright, but I find it hard to enjoy turn-based JRPGs
Then why play a game in a genre you aren't a fan of? Complaining about a gameplay type that you don't enjoy seems silly. It doesn't invalidate your opinion, but it certainly makes it less credible since it's biased.
>>333656897
he wasn't. At all. He's purely credited for coming up with the SMT setting.
>>333660923
You're wrong. Read the SMT IV Artbook.
Only reason to play this is the boss encounter music, great stuff
That and when you get to Tokyo
>>333654671
SMT IV has become irrelvant now that SMT IV FINAL exists.
>>333661460
not until the NA version
>>333661460
Why would a sequel make it irrelevant? If anything that makes it more relevant desu senpai
>>333661641
>Sequel
Is more a "what if?"
>>333661460
Reminder than Nanashi is the most edgy SMT MCs ever.
>>333661946
It can't be helped, anon. Don't you want to get rid of the yellow baldie head once and for all?
>>333662018
Only if i can take his place and get myself a cute megami to keep me company (and i would choose her >>333661946)
>he doesn't even play mainline
lol
>>333662126
>This bait.
>>333662126
They obviously mean the Persona main series of games. No wonder most Personages think Persona started with 4 with all the sequels and spin-offs they've gotten this past decade.
>>333662126
>SMT fags hate Persona
>Personafags either hate SMT or SMTfags turn them off.
Persona got me started on SMT but I've been going through Nocturne, IV and spinoffs pretty quickly given how I work with games.
>>333661460
I miss the alignments, though. A single yes/no choice deciding your ending is a bit underwhelming for SMT.
Unless you count those token Law and Chaos endings that make practically no sense and come out of nowhere.
>>333663098
A simple "yes and no" was how aligments worked back in smt 1, 2 and 3.
>>333663226
1 & 2 tracked your alignment like IV.
Nocturne dumbed it down a lot but it was still more than a single choice.
>all your party smirks
>mfw
>>333661946
Killing Toki after everything she says during the fight with Inanna (if not interrupted) broke my heart a little.
Still, Navarre voicing his disappointment in me hurt the most.
>>333665542
>Killing Toki
Please dont tell me I have to kill the lewd loli
>>333654671
>Discuss.
story was okay pretty good i guess. but gameplay wise everything after the first dungeon is utter fucking trash as to how fucking easy it is just cause they decided to casualize the shit out of this entry.
shits to easy that it bores me to the point that i cant even get myself to play it because of how easy it is and the disappointment i feel from other smt games cause of it.
so this game is only really great at being an entry level type of deal thats it.
>>333665542
Does Navarre sound anything like his human self? Or does he have a ghosty whatever the hell he is voice instead?
>>333665628
You don't have to if you choose the "power of friendship" cliche ending.
>>333665726
https://youtu.be/GKRALx9ft3I
He's a total bro. Used him as a partner most of the time.
>>333661826
>what IF
Is it better than Nocturne and Strange Journey?Non mobile SMT never ever?
>>333665727
Power of friendship here I come
>>333665863
it might be a weird recording or nothing going on in it but I got a major soul hackers vibe from that video
>>333665897
>Is it better than Nocturne and Strange Journey?
Nah.
>>333665628
If you kill her you can alwaysresurrect her as your goddess.
>>333666034
You slowly build a gang of friends following you around this time and they are heavily involved in the story.
They actually receive more character development than I anticipated.
>>333666618
I-I still get to kill them all, right?
>>333666664Maliciously. One by one. And you get to react diffrently to every single one you execute.
>>333666790
That's the SMT I know and then some.
I desperately want P5 to come out so we can finally get a NA announcement or something
>>333666034
Hardcore hacker, Hack you!
>>333665502
More games need to harness the sheer destructive power of smug.
>>333666915
The peace and anarchy routes are so drastically different in tones that it's hard to believe they are in the same game.
>>333667064
please stop you're only making it worse
>>333667149
Childhood friend always dies and suffers greatly beforehand.
>>333667309
>Childhood friend always dies and suffers greatly beforehand.
Wait, what? She has to die?
>>333667309
please
Its just rock paper scissors with a nice aesthetic. The game didn't really require any thought other than what beats what
>>333667391Yes
>>333665502
>YHVH uses Smile Charge
>he actually smirks
>>333667498
P-please be lyingDoes she come back? ;_;
>>333667668
Only in the power of friendship ending.
Or you can make her your goddess, which is funny given she's a fedora.
>the reason to own a 3ds
I think your got your box art mixed with MH4U
That said, smt4 was great. Too bad atlas jewed out and put story stuff as dlc, fuck them
>>333667668
In peace route.I'm not sure if she's even dead in the first place, there's some weird off-screen vore shit going on between her and certain samurai.
>>333655816
>All of the pre-release footage in all languages spoiled this from the get-go
I think I would've found it more memorable if that part was a surprise, even if it's a rehash of Etrian Odyssey I's plot twist.
>>333656638
>DMC4SE cover
What's this now? I only found 3D render covers when I googled this.
Playing it right now, just got to the part where Walter joins Yuriko and Lucy. There are definitely some major issues (physical skills costing MP is fucking stupid, some demon redesigns are shit, side characters are as badly written as SMT3s and other mainline ones were) but the boss fights and grinding feel quite rewarding however it can drag on like SMT3 did but at least there aren't illusionary dead ends all the time popping up.
>>333654748
I can understand the frustration over some of the guest design, mainly because their style didn't mesh well with the rest of the visuals. Just having the main artist draw the designs made in Final made them look a lot better, though.
>>333662638
>not playing a game because of the fanbase
I started out with Persona 3 and got into Nocturne, DDS and 4 afterwards. They're all sorta different but good and worthwhile games to play.
>>333661460
There's some weird about XP curve in this game.
In IV. I wandered around a lot, constantly got lost and experimented with fusions all the time. Also got the neutral route which meant even more fucking around. I ended the game at level 75~.
In Final I was going straight after side and main quests (I really appreciate the change in side quests being sent directly to you when you meet their level requirement) and still ended up hitting 99 halfway through the final dungeon.
>>333668778
>One demon was claymation
I'd love to play a game that basically takes SMT's general attitude (especially the negotiations) and mixes all types of art media together to make a weird bizzarro world, but that thing didn't belong in IV.
>>333669056
well since yhvh is level 100 I guess they wanted you to be max level on purpose
I guess it's something new since you'll rarely come close to 90 in any other title unless you've been grinding
>>333669234
Merkabah and Lucifer in IV were 99. It's basically the same with YVHV, except he's 100. It's just for the show.
>>333669056
The game has free DLC that removes the level cap, so it makes sense that leveling is faster than usual.
>>333669449
fair enough. Most end bosses are level 99 in other games too now that I think about it.
Maybe they just wanted you to actually get to use the end game demons, since in other games you'll finish well before you get access to them
>>333654671
The difficulty curve isn't retarded the game is easy as fuck after the first boss. Also the art is inconsistent because they didn't have Kaneko do the demon design.
>>333668878
I doubt there are people like that. No matter how much you hate their tone, you can still get your fix of megaten gameplay from P3 and P4.
The Persona-and-Persona-only fanbase is insufferable, though.
>>333654671
>SMT4
>perfection
it's not a bad game but stop glorifying it.
the story starts to go retarded after the route split and the whole system doesn't help either.
Final IV however is the polished version of IV and it's still far from flawed perfection.
There's no chance of us getting an english translation, fan or official, is there?
>>333669886
Quit fear mongering, it'll come out by the end of the year.
>>333658996
Nocturne,SJ,DDS,ect.
SMT IV Final would be fucking great to play after IV but it's not translated yet
>>333669506
Gotta look up those DLC.
Also, is there a non-DLC way to grind app points? They added some really overpriced apps in patch 1.1.
>>333668778
>mainly because their style didn't mesh well with the rest of the visuals.
this
I personally like the design a lot but it's jarring as fuck to look at it alongside kaneko and doi's artwork.
>>333666979
>>333670195
>Also, is there a non-DLC way to grind app points?
This might not be the perfect way but everytime you check out a dead body you get 1 app point.
dead bodies spawns on almost all locations randomly in small quantities, happy hunting
>>333654748
I never did either, but I loved it. The world map + not getting spoon fed on quest locations kinda made me stop.
After getting the quest to find a reactor or something got me stumped, but maybe it was something obvious.
>>333669886
E3, you dunce.
>>333670361
I always wondered if they respawn but I never stumbled upon one in a previously visited area. Even if they do, I doubt anyone sane would grind 3000 on those.
At the end of the day the free update tries to force you to buy a DLC anyway.
I hate how Atlus finds new way to go full retard with their DLC.
>>333667847
she died, the game explicitly said that she got reduced to "meat flakes".
Daguza normally would able to resurrect her no problem but that guy also took her soul.
Currently playing it on the peace route for the first time so I don't know what will happen next, but after the egg got broken and free from the mantra-something spell Daguza should be free to revive her.
>>333671047
What does those new apps do?
>>333654671
Haven't played Shin Megami Tensei yet, but I'm looking forward to it. I've played Persona 1 and 2 which were nice, the first is my favorite though 2 had a pretty interesting story (at least, Innocent Sin did). Trying to play Persona 3 right now, but it's boring me. I'm hoping something will click later because I've been looking forward to the fourth since everyone seems to love it so much. If I can't stand 3 though, I probably shouldn't play 4.
After that though it's SMT time which I'm pretty interested in.
>>333671047
>I doubt anyone sane would grind 3000 on those.
This is the entire point of the DLCs, I can't even imagine the time that I will have to use to grind everything from scratch to 99 level, even if you have the app of taking macca from demon fully upgraded it will take you hundred of hours to achieve what you can get from about 30 minutes of grinding.
The DLCs are mandatory if you are one of those min/max autists, thankfully if you just want to see the story content they are largely unnecessary.
>>333654671
FINAL WHEN
>>333671414
The dungeon of 3 put me off to no end, exploring a dungeon that's "just there" bores the hell out of me. 4 is much better in this department.
You should get your hands on some demon summoner games too, I myself am planning to play and hopefully finish them before P5
>>333655816
>mfw finding guns and the first teleporter
>>333671221
The 3000 one is the Maniacs difficulty mode, I think.
I don't remember all of them but the rest wasn't really that exciting. 300 for empowered Estoma. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo.
>>333671418
>MFW the west may never get FINAL
Is because we can punch god in the face?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwV9xMCMlbw
>>333671740
>the west may never get FINAL
I want to find whoever started this meme and punch THEM in the face.
>>333656364
This track is the main reason it's now on my backlog. I don't care that it spoils shit, otherwise I wouldn't ever play it.
>>333666034
Soul Hackers sequel that isn't on a japanese cell phone when?
>>333671587
I actually like running around Tartarus even if it isn't great. Not really enthused with all the stuff about that school tournament in August, but hopefully it'll pick up later. I know people seem to love the social links and I honestly haven't done a lot of them yet, just Kenji, the guy in the sutdent council, working on Chihiro and... I think that's it, I should start some more of them. It's definitely not like the old Personas, but that's why I'm interested in SMT, I've heard that Persona 1 and 2 (especially the first game) is fairly similar to SMT. I liked the dark music and plots and even the first person dungeon crawling.
Is the Demon Summoner games the Japanese only ones where you play as a detective? Or maybe that was Devil Summoner? I've heard that the first Devil Summoner was pretty interesting on paper but pretty shitty when actually playing the game, though Soul Hackers is apparently fairly good.
>>333672116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHPYTkFqH6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGORm3P0F1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MTGAvcngM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtRzDYYBuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQPDe1mU31s
>>333672116
If you think the overworld theme is good just wait until you hear the shop themes
>>333672442
Yeah, I've heard 1-2 of the other ones already. But I don't like listening to too many tracks from an OST before playing the game it's in.
>>333672442
A3 best theme
I didn't want to leave Blasted/Infernal because I knew it would just go back to the boring old battle theme
>>333672392
Devil Summoner is the game we didn't get
Soul Hackers is the game where you play as a HARDCORE HACKER that we got with the enhanced port on 3DS
Raidou Kuzunoha is the two game Action RPG series on PS2 where you do detective work.
I don't know about the first game, but Soul Hackers and Raidou are good shit.
>>333656364
https://youtu.be/7prWEHN8_HA
https://youtu.be/-VpcbSj8gqQ
https://youtu.be/MjcTks8rrm4
>>333673103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dg7yDHzgFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_WRq-Y3EqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbYdmrs4EA
Based Kozuka does it again.
>>333671740
How did we even get IV so soon? 2 months for Atlus USA localization is unheard of. Especially for a text heavy game.
I won't be surprised if they cancel Final localization and blame it on low sales in Japan or the growth of 3DS piracy.
Their PR was openly butthurt about some random European saying that he's tired of waiting for the EU release and he's going to pirate it instead.
>>333673529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elkEvP4cdeA&nohtml5=False
I like Final's boss theme better than the original but I like both a lot
>>333673625
But it had great sales in Japan. I'm more worried about the fact Atlus has to translate that shitheap of SMT x FE or Illusionary Relevations whatever
>>333673837
NoA is handling Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
And they aren't doing a dub. Most likely because of all the singing.
>>333674004
>NoA is handling Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
That's wrong though, it's being localized by Atlus.
>>333671593
>mfw
>>333673529
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dg7yDHzgFE
I wonder if Krishna will be hailed as a new casual filter in the series.
>keeps buffing all his stats
>spams his unique move which causes debilitate + status ailments
>you fight him long before you have the access to luster candy and debilitate yourself
>high damage and utilizes multiple elementst to prevent easy resistance stacking
It might be just me but first Krishna fight and YHVH felt really tight and satisfying to beat.
>>333674095
Do you have any proof of this? You seem pretty sure.
>>333671587
I want to play more games that are like MT1, you just have a gigantic, deep dungeon with tons of obstacles in the way, and a way to go deeper and deeper into the dungeon.
>>333671740
>Asahi - Erin Fitzgerald
>Nozomi - Laura Bailey
>Hallelujah - Yuri Lowenthal
>Gaston - Troy Baker
>Toki - Paula Tiso
Are you ready?
>>333675290
Looked it up myself. There was an anon who posted about the English name, Japanese audio-only release, and other changes before the game got re-revealed in a Direct. It mentioned that Atlus is localizing, but not publishing.
http://personacentral.com/potential-tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe-localization-content-changes/
>>333675290
I'm fairly sure it's NoA but I can't seem to find any official statements.
>>333675625
>Nozomi - Laura Bailey
>Best girl voicing best girl
You bet im fucking ready
>>333654671
It's the "SMT IV is good" meme again
You guys would literally eat the shit out Nintendo's ass if they said it was good for you
>>333675625
>Troy Baker
Can't work nonunion games, so never ever.
>Hallelujah - Yuri
Expecting and would be okay with this.
Here's one of my friend's dream casting:
Nanashi - Zach Aguilar/Johnny Yong Bosch
Dagda - Neil Kaplan
Nozomi - Erica Lindbeck if Bailey can't come back
Flynn - Robbie Daymond
Asahi - Erica Mendez
Krishna - Keith Silverstein
Danu - Julie Ann Taylor
Odin - Michael McConnohie
Miroku - Cindy Robinson
Toki - Cristina Vee
Hallelujah - Yuri Lowenthal
Gaston - Ian Sinclair
Manabu - Kaiji Tang
Nikkari - Todd Haberkorn
Satan - Paul St. Peter
YHWH - David Sobolov
>>333675625
>Troy Baker
You mean Matt Mercer.
>>333675625
>Asahi is cheering, pouting, crying or screaming most of the time
>Erin Fitzgerald
That woman should not be allowed to record any voices that require high pitched noises.
>>333675745
>source is a /v/ post
>>333676205
She shouldn't be allowed in Japanese dubbing, period. She needs to stay in western or Western-inspired stuff, where she belongs and excels.
>>333676025
There, there. No need to be salty. Since P5 will contain renewed models for demons, it might open the possibility of some SMT games for PS3 and PS4.
>333676025
>SMT 4
>Nintendo
No you for you.
>>333654671
Sell me this game, /v/. I've played many smt games, but not all of them have been finished. It's not like I don't like the games, the games are good, but somehow I always dropped it in the middle for another game. I want to have another try with SMTIV, any tips so that I can finish it this time?
>>333676081
Satan should be voiced by Orion Acaba and Matthew Mercer simultaneously.
At least that's what I assume because I'm not quite sure about his Japanese voice since it's easily one of the most distorted voices in the entire game.
>>333661460
Is western release confirmed yet?
>>333654671
>a retarded difficulty curve
One of the most retarded difficulty curves in any game I can think of. At first it starts off a little rough, as one might expect in a SMT mainline game, and then you have the fight with Minotaur that teaches you buffs are important. Then everything after that is a cake walk.
>>333676339
A /v/ post that had the official english name days before it was revealed. Credible enough for me, especially considering we have exactly nothing at all that says otherwise.
>>333675625
>Troy "Hollywood" Baker
>Ever working on an Atlus game ever
The world map is a shit. I hope they fix it in Final.
>>333681384
Final's already out senpai, and from what I've heard they did
So Final is a continuation of 4?
Monster Hunter is the reason to own a 3DS.
Dragon Quest games would be too if those anusses finally brought them over.
>>333682121
It takes place after the alignment lock on the neutral route of IV iirc
>>333682192
Just a few more months, anon
>>333682121
A branching off from 4.
How's Final?
>>333682329
I heard it was shit senpai.
Nice to have an SMT IV appreciation thread and I agree, it's definitely a flawed masterpiece.
It has minor problems like demon designs and annoying battle tweaks, but the setting and music are really something special.
I started with persona 4 but this game is what really got me into the series.
Would recommend IV as a good starting point to anyone interested in SMT.
>>333654671
On a really unrelated note, is Conception II a good game?
>>333684043
It's below average. Definitely not bad, but thoroughly forgettable. Pick it up on a sale.
>flawed perfection
Stopped reading there.
>>333654671
Literally the only good rpg on the 3DS, and the only worthwhile game. Maybe MK7 too. God the 3DS is shit
>>333662126
>Only referred to as SMT in the west
>Japanese don't even see them as the same thing.
Why did they have to attach the SMT tag to a shitty series like that?
It's not that great honestly
SMT3 is better
and Monster Hunter is the only reason to play 3DS
Fuck, MK7, SMTIV, Zelda 3D, Animal Crossing are all trash on the 3DS compared to Monster Hunter
>>333654671
>a retarded difficulty curve
I've never played an SMT that started out this brutal in the beginning. I'm just trying to experiment with my monsters and the first area is just slapping my ass with monsters one shooting me. And I'd like to save up money for more equipment, but they barely drop cash and I end up having to waste it on beads and other healing items just to kill some monsters a few rounds so I can get some exp.
Am I doing something wrong?
>>333685239
MH is mediocre if you delved into the series previously. It can only fasinate for so long. Still good, but really pays tribute to the lack of action and quality on the 3DS.
>>333685413
That's normal. After the second major boss, the difficulty starts nosediving.
>Awesome a SMTIV thread
>People talking about SMTIVF
Stop it, my dumb ass friend already spoiled a theSteven DLCfight AND the polytheist fight theme. I want to go into this game blind as a bat but I wanna come back on /v/
Design wise, Metatron is my favorite demon. Close second is most trustworthy angel. I have a thing for angels
>>333685914
Is medatron even an angel? Hes just a robot made of high tier angels and has laser eyes.
Hes basically God's personal terminator.
>>333685553
>MH is mediocre
fag detected
>>333685914
I like Tiamat, she doesn't get enough love.
I couldn't get past the beginning and ever since then it's gathered dust in its case.
I'm told it's a game where the story picks up later and when it does pick up shit gets crazy, would I be wrong?
>>333686012
he's literally second only to god and has a million flaming eyes and a thousand wings and other bullshit
angel robot looks cooler
>>333686026
It is though. Its a below average grindfest because Japan cannot into MMOs.
It simply has too much repetition and shallow gameplay when you get deeper into the game. Its just an action game that overstays its welcome. Each iteration is a lower experience than the last.
>>333686192
>It is though
fag detected
Also
>MMOs
king of fags detected
>>333686217
>implying i dont have more MH experience than you
Just telling it like it is, tri baby.
>>333686114
This bitch fucked me up in strange journey more than any other boss
>>333686012
He is Enoch(?), a man who lived so perfectly he never died and just went straight to heaven, to became the voice of god. Metatron is angel.
>>333686114
Ill give her my love if you know what I mean.
>>333686250
>FU nostalgianigger
Get a load of this fag
>>333686371
More like PS2, Tri was shit anyways.
>>333686496
Quite the impressive shit taste you got there.
I've tried to play this game so many times. I really do want to beat, but every time I start it up I'm preoccupied with other games orthe game gets too hardShould I try and restart for a third time or should I give up?
>>333687246
you could always lower the difficulty like a casualry
or use buffs and tetrakarn
>>333687328I always lower the difficulty
Lol after playing P3/P4 I would hope that I would at least know to cast buffs
>>333687551
tetrakarn trivializes almost any fight and you can get it before medusa
>>333654671
>the quality of SMT
Since when is rehashing the same shit over and over countless times quality? Even pokemon adds like 100 monsters each game, not that I'd touch that garbage with a 10 foot pole either.
>>333659896
>SJ was my first SMT.
>No knowledge of the game beforehand other than it's demonic pokemon.
>Saddened by the fact that I have to kill my friends.
I sort of wish there were a fourth, bad ending where you actually do escape after Oroborous is killed. Obviously, that would leave the rest up to Jack's Squad and almost certainly wind up destroying the world, but it'd be a neat addition like the Dragon ending of Cave Story. Also, it would stop a lot of crew from dying or becoming demons.
>>333669127
Gotta admit though, it did make it creepy as fuck.
I'm just going to say it, I know I'm in the minority but I fucking loved all the different art styles in IV.
>>333689803
You're not alone.
>>333659596
>went in blind
>had a similar amazing experience
>was thoroughly enjoying myself
>have to blow up some reactor
>think "yeah! i'll blow this baby up like a real chaos guy would!"
>create black hole
>the game ends
>realize I got the bad end days later on /v/, I thought I was legitimately done
>no motivation to slog through the beginning again
Just kill me
>>333654671
>#FE sequel will release before Final gets to the west
JUST
How much audio dialogue does it have, if any?
>saw the English trailer for this game
>the main characters are samurais
>they keep pronouncing it "sommu-rye"
the problem with /v/ is that when you think a game is total shit the board will just think you're trolling / shitposting, but...
I really did think SMTIV was total shit and if it hadn't been for the dedicated fanbase telling me 'it gets better' I would never have pushed on to the ending (got neutral by chance)
the press turn battle system is about a decade out of date and was never good. it's nothing but trash.
>>333654748
SMIRK and all battles being hyperoffensive fests since there is no defense stat. A few new designs are also absolute shit, like Asmodeus. Other than that it was great, especially the voice acting?
Was this some of the best voice acting in the previous gen? The demons were fucking unnerving, as they should be.
>>333691521
>it's trash because it's 'out of date'\
Reminder not to reply to bait
>>333691497
It has a lot.
Gaearage
Ignore shitposters, post hoys.
>>333691497
fully voiced, you can turn it off if you don't like those sweet hoys
You could've prevented this. You could've prevented all of it.
Why didn't you listen?
>>333693982
>if we listened to the white there would be no FINAL
white a shit
>>333693681
Hoy, that's a rare one
>>333694109
>if we listened to the white there would be no FINAL
Exactly. White was right.
>>333691521
This a remix or what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KrFxq60lh8
>>333695629
It'sfunky
>>333694742
>not being one of the chosen waifufags
>>333654671
I got the Chaos ending recently, have been meaning to replay on NG+ for neutral.
reminder that infernal kasumigaseki is best track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrx1sZYgp7E
>>333654671
I fucking love Tokyo in this
I love how grimy and grey it is
>>333684043
Gameplay is entirely one dimensional. Hust hit an enemies weak spot and win. The waifus are ok but dialogue gets repetitive fast. Your children have a set level cap though so you constantly need to have more kids to replace the capped ones who can run out of use. All in all I'd rate it a 4/10. Its not a "bad" game but it certainly needs improvement. Like >>333684684 said pick it up on sale if you want it.
>>333655816
>tfw I knew that it was going to happen because it wasn't my first smt game
I would've loved to experience something like that, but whatever.
>>333696982
Of any game, Tokyo in IV gets my imagination stirring the most.
I'm finally giving SMT1 a try after hearing how great the world is, and how it evolves.
Bowwow bowwow.
>>333693982
I liked the white ending, it's rushed. I wish you were introduced to them a bit before the moment you can choose to end it all.
