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Guys..
Regretting my 980ti purchase desu but I'm locked in because of my gsync monitor
>>333653334
WHY
>>333653334
Fuck everything dude
is this at 1440p or what?
Those are both pretty pathetic if its 1080p
>>333653334
SO THIS IS THE POWER OF THE PC MASTER RACE
Muh 60fps mastur race am i rite? Spend a fucking thousand on processing power and still can't get it.
Where's the 400 posts of shitposting whenever there's a ps4 fps graph?
>>333653334
Both those cards should be able to handle 60 fps min in an indoor environment, or is this just poor optimization?
>>333653334
>970 getting rekt by xbone
lmao
>>333653334
Game asks for 980ti/Fury X for Ultra, só 48 fps with a 390 is not exactly bad. Still a terrible port
>crosshair and some generic guy crouching behind walls
Shit game whatever it is
>>333653334
What game is it even?
>>333655814
The game uses a retarded heavy render buffer comprised by cycling four 4xMSAA images at a lower resolution and recomposing them via a temporal scaling. It works fine on a consoles static hardware, especially if you have a static RAM buffer like the xbone does because it can flash the frames quickly. But on PC where the RAM Pool is already limited and with dynamic instead of static RAM. It fucks up and the PC can't handle it.
So yeah, game is fucked from the start and needs a nuke plant to run at 60FPS because of the render buffer being basically retarded huge. Xbox huge.
People are crying because "Muh UWP boogeyman" and thinking they can "fix it" when the game was designed for 4xMSAA at all times and you can't remove the filter anywayAs neogaf is retarded and people have cracked and modded UWP before even Killer Instinct came out. 4xMSAA is baked on engine level. You can't swap it for SMAA or FXAA. You can only force some higher texture filtering options
I don't get why anyone would buy a NVidia product. There are zero positives into locking yourself with that shit company.
>>333658154
why the fuck does anyone pay attention Neogaf
What game? also stop brand wars, it's the current years and it's a anonymous imageboard, in the end no one cares who you support and why. And no matter how much fedoras you post it won't be anyless true (or maybe it will)
>>333658286
the way you're meant to burn down your house™
Game in OP's Post is Remedy and Sam Lake's Very Own Quantum Break™
Why do people tout muh 60 fps all day long when a very small percentage of pcs can hit it?
>>333658321
Because half the retarded shit they spout gets rehashed by Digital Foundry and other websites who shits it back into their mouth. It's a fucking scab you can't stop picking at because the itch is coming from in there.
UWP was cracked the month it came out and neofag hasn't come out of their own little bubble to realise it.
>>333658154
thank you for all those informations
how do you know all those things?
>>333658286
well at the beginning of the 900 series release, amd couldnt really compete with its shit drivers and last gen OC'd cards.
Its only after the 3.5 fiasco, the gimpening, and dx12 benches do we see what nvidia has truely become.
If amd can impress this time around with a better version of HBM tech, i think theyll make a turnaround.
I bought a 980ti because of my gsync monitor and the fact that the fury x was nowhere to be seen at the time.
I think this time around i may go AMD.
I really just want something thatll max 5760x1080 and i wont bother buying shit for a while.
I'm looking to build a gaming pc in the near future. What gpu should I get for everything from morrowind to xcom 2? I was thinking about a r290 or a 390.
>>333658286
Because when there's a disparity between AMD and Nvidia performance like with this game, it's usually Nvidia that does better 9 times out of 10
people complaining about framerate on a game that looks like a potato
come on guys, it's a hideously optimized potato, it's hard to take any benchmark comparison or brand comparison when both look and run like shit and dip below 60 fps on higher end cards
you can't even really argue ps4 vs xbone benchmarks half the time since they usually have more or less of something, i remember one game where one had more ai crowds enabled and the other had more foilage or some shit
>>333658961
Get a 390 or 970, whichever you can find for cheaper. That or wait for Polaris/Pascal in June.
I don't get why anyone would buy an AMD product. There are zero positives into locking yourself with that shit company.
>>333653334
Stop with this fake threads!
GTX 970 is fine!
>>333653334
>benchmark
>no mention of settings
>no mention of resolution
cmon m8
>>333653334
Maybe you should update drivers?
>>333658424
I mean, it's not even the overheating memes because both companies suffered from it. I just see zero appeal in Nvidia. I look at AMD, and I see cheaper hardware with adequate software. I look at Nvidia and I see overpriced hardware with mediocre software that encourages devs to adhere to retarded tools that hurt consumers using other hardware.
At least the likes of Razer, Apple, etc. fulfill some sort of niche, but nvidia doesn't. I just don't get the appeal whatsoever.
>>333659002
I'd like to see those disparity comparisons in which nvidia is in the lead by at least 20 frames across the board (ie resolutions, settings) to justify a ~$100+ price hike on the hardware.
>>333659147
I'll look into that because I won't be building until late June early July anyway.
What's the game?
>>333653405
Consider 980ti is the strongest gpu at the moment...
>>333656286
Consider PS4 has an equivalent of a GTX 570
>>333659509
no not technologically
>>333653334
Wat gaem?
>>333656286
Wew, it's almost like the Xbox One runs the game at medium settings.
>>333658742
Remedy's own papers and Ubi-Softs papers how they did the same thing for the console versions of R6 Siege. They talk about the xbone version but the tech Remedy use was going to not play nice with PC's and Dynamic RAM pools. At least not till DDR4 and HBM arrive which can do the frame cycle tech.
Also it was cracked before it even came out as Windows store security is laughably poor. 4xMSAA was baked in at engine level along with a much heavier deffered render buffer. You literally cannot remove it. MSAA is already a render buffer hog and a huge performance killer never mind a deffered buffer so no wonder PC versions croak trying to run it. On top of that, it has nearly every buzzword GPU killing effect going like Global Illumination. And Remedy didn't want to remove a thing. You can only "Lower it"
Hell, even Digital Foundry pointed out it's a fucking miracle it runs on xbone never mind the fact it runs well on xbone. It's the fact it runs garbage on PC and people are looking for excuses like UWP when the game is just ridiculous resource hog in the first place because it's using every effect under the sun and Remedy has very little options to turn it off. They want you playing it as they envisioned (Like Max Payne which was also fucking retarded high specs back in the day)
>>333659509
It would run 720P reconstructed on PS4 as well. maybe 792P if lucky. The render buffer and tech is fucking stupid.
>>333654965
1080p max. The video also says the game is also capped at 50 fps.
>>333659509
7870
>>333659509
Haha, no.
A 750Ti can beat it in most cases.
>>333660151
7850
Has nothing to do with PC components. It's just incompetent developers
>>333659376
quantom break i think
>still no one posting what fucking game it is
>>333660384
>>333653334
I don't like it but I was never going to watch this movie anyway.
>>333660545
weve just looked past the bait, and are now baiting ourselves into tech talk
>>333660026
How much effort would it be to make it run normally?
Funny that you seem to know more about this than every website out there
>>333659253
He couldn't afford the baby food.
The spoon is also broken.
>>333653334
THIS HAS TO BE FAKE
>>333655234
>muh 60fps that nobody have but they lie about it anyway
>>333660384
It's both. It's a game made with a piece of static hardware in mind that has problems working with PC hardware even when brute forced because of the developers artistic decisions are hell on cards.
>>333661181
Get Remedy to strip out the MSAA and replace with FXAA/SMAA then remove temporal upscale into a native resolution. Also nerf global illumination heavily because that pretty much rapes everything. Problem is that the temporal effects likely also works with the games "time" effects and they are running a lot of things at once, very quickly like switching light sources. The game's art and concept with the time powers probably dictated why they would use that rendering solution as well because the game needs to rewind (There's a scene in Act 2 where the game completely flips and runs day to night to day to rain to clear in an instant. And Remedy were also being retarded because they used a volumetric cloud solution. So more load on the buffer.).
The problem with the game is that it just rapes systems by design. Remedy would have to go back and redo a lot of things to get it back to native resolution buffer and Durante wouldn't even stand a chance trying to fix hardcoded elements. You probably could get it to native 1080 but also have to deal with 4xMSAA at all times instead of a less performance impacting solutions.
Game's basically fucking retarded in the way it renders. But it was Remedy's call and they have to deal with that backlash.
>>333660151
The 7870 has 2.5 GFLOPS, the PS4's GPU has 1.8
>>333653334
Does current AMD gpus have better DX12 support?
>>333662273
Yeah. Nvidia cards are missing an important DX12 feature called Async Compute which is pretty much why those cards either get rougly the same or worse performance in DX12.
>>333662273
They do, mostly because the 900 series didnt focus on dx12 much.
Which ends up kind of making sense since dx12 really wont be relevant for another year or two and nvidia will have shat out 2 more series of cards by then.
>>333661952
Nobody has 60 FPS because 144 is the new standard.
>>333662107
>But it was Remedy's call
Wonder how much it was their call of if MS intended this to happen on top of not giving them enough time to do it. QB wasn't originally suppose to release on pc then 5 months later all of a sudden it was.
Then again Remedy seemed like assholes when people requested simple fov choices they literally want to force people to play the cinematic way as you said so that checks out.
Either way this 7/10 game is nothing to lose sleep over but it was interesting to learn about the ram thing. I'm wondering if making it run native res and removing the 4x msaa is as simple as doing a few ini edits since it applies to the entire game anyways.
>>333662487
>Which ends up kind of making sense since dx12 really wont be relevant for another year or two
Yea except the fact that deus ex and several other titles are coming out and also hitman. Expect more on the way.
If async compute isn't in pascal nvidia are fucked. And the rumor is, it isn't. Not like it matters since they'll nerf pascal as soon as the next series is out anyways. Bet they won't use gameworks now that they can't afford to gimp their users
>>333653334
No one cares about Blunder Break
>>333661889
Why is he wearing a mario hat? What a lazily made meme face.
>>333653334
Next CG I'll switch to AMD desu
>>333655319
Those are £350 graphics cards.
>>333653334
The game does not look that good to be getting 25fps indoors at 1080p. Something's wrong there.
>>333653334
>cant even maintain 60fps
so why do PC fucks shit on consolefags again when you guys have the same frame rate problem too?
>>333662954
Can't maintain 60fps on max settings ;^)
Consoles run downgraded versions
>>333662808
490 is rumored to come out in june so I'll be going as well
Either way I wasn't going to support nvidia with their gameworks trash and 3.5 shit as well as the 900 series fully supports dx12 lies
>>333653334
What the fuck am i looking at?
>ATI plebs cherry picking poorly made game performance
>>333663018
They look the same. The only difference is probably the usual tessellation scam to make you idiots buy better cards.
>>333663207
>it's only cherrypicking when AMD wins :^)
>>333663207
I own a 970 but it's not the first time i see AMD cards outdoing Nvidia on benchmarks.
>>333663279
keep telling yourself that.
>>333662523
People already tried to remove the MSAA. It's hardcoded into the Northlight build they are using so it's not as simple as an ini check (Though some people already did inject SMAA into Killer Instinct. Game has decent FXAA already so it was showing off, really) And Sam Lake wanted to do a PC version well back in 2015 when they reintroduced the game with the new cast so they were already working on it.
Betting it's Remedy's call on wanting to preserve the "look" even with the high cost of the the rendering. You can't take it away that the game looks fucking amazing in places even on xbone and shitty in others because of the temporal tech. They likely vastly misjudged how well it would have went down on PC.
At least everyone is blaming Microsoft instead for UWP instead of realizing the game would have been a shitshow on Win32 as well. So the audience is still tarded too. No one wins.
>>333663467
correct, because AMD winning is not the norm
>>333663950
k then
>>333663950
It's winning in basically every non gameworks games from 2014-2016, and even in some gameworks game actually
>>333664143
A 390X getting similar FPS than a 980ti is good enough for me
>>333663560
>They likely vastly misjudged how well it would have went down on PC.
I find this impossible to believe after see how pc users shit on everything for the slightest mistakes and when this is clearly more like a 1:1 from the xbone version. It's pure laziness from my perspective.
But hey I'm biased against UWP so I won't be defending MS even if it isn't their fault so that's a win in my book. You can't say that UWP isn't cancer to the pc platform as a whole.
>>333653334
Game is as bad of port as you can get. Can't really blame nVidia on this one. I'm running a 290x for the record
>>333663560
>Betting it's Remedy's call on wanting to preserve the "look" even with the high cost of the the rendering. You can't take it away that the game looks fucking amazing in places even on xbone and shitty in others because of the temporal tech. They likely vastly misjudged how well it would have went down on PC.
Come on m8 you said it yourself, this game was purely made for the xbones method of handling ram which would never work on pc. That's not a artistic choice that's just straight up intended laziness and phoning it in
>>333653334
game?
>>333663026
AMD seems like the better choice, their cards maintain a consistent performance years after they've been released. Meanwhile with Nvidia, their cards start performing like crap as soon a new generation is near.
Plus these new AMD cards will have a tessellation processor, so it won't be a problem anymore, there is no reason to own Nvidia.
>>333653405
>he fell for two memes at once and got cucked for years to come
lmao
>>333659002
Hasn't been true for literally half a year. Even "it's meant to be played" games stuffed with Gameworks run better on AMD.
It's pretty fucking sad and I feel truly sorry for all the "people" who got tricked into buying a 970.
>>333665650
Look I admit amd has the edge but can we call a truce so you stop posting these images? i PROMISE iw ont shit on amd again..
>>333665650
Nvidia has shadowplay so I would still buy a 970 right now over AMD
>>333666045
>shadowplay
For what purpose?
I never use it and it eats up CPU when idle.
>>333666246
>CPU
Meant RAM.
>>333666246
Making videos?
>>333666246
>>333666476
Does it actually eat a significant amount of ram? should i be disabling it?
>>333662107
>rapes
Please stop using that word unnecessarily.
>>333666476
Then who cares. It's not like anything else is using up these 8GB.
>>333666476
>>333666552
>he's worried about ram
What is this 2005?
>>333653334
>>333666045
AMD has VCE which is the exact same shit as Nvidia's NVENC. Nvidia just packages it nicely in Shadowplay vs GameDVR.
OBS Studio supports both anyway and gives you more options.
>>333666246
Shadowplay is shit unless you're a videofag
You're forced to install nvidia experience so I prefer to keep that shit off my pc. Plan to jump to amd in june
>>333653334
'Windows 10 Games' are the new 'Games for Windows Vista'. Shitty ports arbitrarily locked to a specific version of Windows for no other reason to increase the user base of that Windows version.
>>333666585
I hope you get raped.
>terribly coded game runs like shit on both cards.
Yeah enjoy eating a freshly baked silicon in 3 months
What's a good upgrade for a 7950? Kind of wanted to go back to nvidia
>>333667127
Kinda need a good game to tout that
7/10 ain't cutting it
You can tell MS bet big on this with that marketing wonder if remedy is going to get sacked
>>333667127
Why did they think it's a good idea to lock such a terrible port to windows 10? They killed the game on PC.
>>333667127
Hey, at least that game was good. Quantum Break is a 10 hour movie.
