So clothing censorship is annoying but I can live with that.
Art book censorship is irritating, but that won't necessarily stop me from buying the game.
Both of these and changing the story by removing all the bad ends to the side quests?
Will you be buying the sequel?
>>333650643
No, I'm not getting it.
Changing the clothing, and censoring the art book suck ass and annoy the hell out of me but that's localization.
I do draw the line at cut content though.
>>333650643
i loved the first one (even with the repeating segments) but i heard a lot of shit (for the story side) that this game is worse than default (but better at combat and stuff like that)
Im still going to buy it tho.
>>333650643
The censorship on its own is reason enough not to buy it.
The other crap is merely icing on the cake.
I refuse to purchase such a game if it supports the people who butcher something the original developers put a lot of time and effort into.
>>333652243
Time to find a new hobby then.
>>333652338
this
i dont feel like playing any game anymore.
>>333652000
I loved the first one l,but second is worse with just about everything but Gameplay. The music being so much worse is the worst part for me though dialog is also really bad. Got costumesome uncensored though at least
>>333652607
Shit, i was really expecting this game so much.
Is the censorship part of nintendo or squeenix?
>>333652338
>>333652589
Decent games are rare now, but that doesn't mean they no longer exist.
It's probably pretty hard to find decent JRPGs now, though.
>>333650643
I bought the game before the sidequest endings removal became known so I'm SoL in this case. I sure as heck won't buy the third game right away though.
I pirated it so I really don't give a fuck.
But what's this about a sequel?
>>333650643
Eeeh, I'll prolly pick it up.
>>333650643
>Art book censorship
What the fuck? Did this actually happen?
>>333653414
yes.
>>333653468
Tell me more.
>>333653069
NoA
>>333650643
Man those ending removal sounds way worse than anything Fates did, and even then as someone who was originally excited for Fates the shit they did was too much for me to buy it. I feel you guys because if I was really excited for this game from playing the first one, I'd be absolutely livid upon hearing what they did.
Did they seriously cut the bad ends and remove content just for censorship? Why?
This is really fucking stupid. yes im mad.
anyone that cares about censorship didn't play the first game or can also pirate the decensored version of the second game
unnecessary thread
>>333653327
How do you pirate and play a 3ds game?
>>333650643
The side quest changes are good, the choices players are given are meaningless and would clash with the gameplay if kept as they were on the original Japanese game and people would complain a lot more if they hadn't been changed.
The actual censorship does suck.
The plot is worse than Default's.
The music is not as good as the first game but Revo did set the bar really high. Quite a few old songs are still in though.
The playable characters don't have a lot of chemistry, party chats are mostly about food.
Dungeon design improved a bit in a few places but they are still not very interesting to explore.
Get it if you loved Default but don't have very high expectations of it.
>>333653935
Make the game more appealing to children.
Catomancer
What? I thought nintendo was BASED since they fired the censorship woman!
Anyone in this board plays Archeage ??
>>333650643
There are no cut bad endings in Send Player.
All they changed is that characters defend the choice you made instead of feeling like shit either way.
You still get dark shit like Yews brother Kaiser Oblivion sacrificing himself to take that one unkillable Ba'al to the end of time.
No but I wasn't that interested to begin with. Going to trust /v/ when they say the chemistry between the party isn't as strong as the first game's.
>>333654021
Go ask /hbg/
>>333654147
Yeah god forbid any game make you feel less than a special wonderbaby.
YOU COULD HAVE HAD THIS IN BS
INSTEAD YOU GET A COPY PASTED TIZ
ISN'T THAT FUN?
>>333654270
I kinda don't want that, actually.
>>333654250
what is /hbg/
>>333654380
why? in the demo he's cool and doesnt give a fuck.
>>333654269
The sidequest thing is stupid because it's completely at odds with the game's theme.
Chapter five is about convincing the antagonists that going back in time to improve your lot is bad.
The JP sidequests in Chapter five then had you taking advantage of time travel to improve how things went.
>>333654380
>swordsman with an actual ponytail
>Kaiser looks 2x better
Faggot taste
>>333654076
>Catmancer
>appealing to children
yes, having a little kid used by her mother to make antibodies for a deadly plague by injecting her with cat DNA sure is appropriate for children.
>>333654110
The censorship woman was pro-loli, seems like we'd want her to stay at nintendo
>>333654270
But I like the idea of sequels where former main characters take the back seat but offer veteran experience.
Too bad BS didn't do that.
>>333650643
No, but simply because the first one was so repeatitive and the sequel is using so much of previous assets.
It looks like a rehash.
>>333654637
>replace Yew with the Janne we had in the demo
Instant improvement
>>333654270
I want that Summoner outfit.
>>333654270
but Tiz is possessed by the soul of the guy responsible for the Ba'als and half of the games plot.
It wouldn't make sense to cut him out, if anything you'd have to remove Edea
>>333654508
Doesn't really seem INappropriate if that's what you're getting at
>>333654637
>bring Tiz back
>he contributes nothing outside of some lame advice that has nothing to do with his experiences in the previous game
>suicidal tendencies gone
>doesn't mention Til until chapter six
>game ignores the zombie thing until the final cutscene and expects me to give a shit when they immediately resolve it
>>333654913
refer to
>>333654709
>>333654709
>removing the brother of the main villain and son of the guy who caused everything that lead up to the plot of the first game
that doesn't even make sense
>>333655149
You would have the exact same story without Yew.
The exact.
If Yew never existed, the story would not be altered. The fact the Kaiser had a brother did not change his motives at all and it was barely relevant in chapter 5, in the same instance it was becoming part of the plot Denys was gone.
>>333654709
Keep Yew, he's better than Tiz and I liked Tiz.
Now, change Tiz to Ringabel, and now we have cool aniki Ringabel giving Yewbadadvice on how to approach Magnolia. Bam, instant improvement on party chats, and now Edea can have someone to banter with.
>>333654405
You'll learn when you're older
>>333655432
They need to get rid of Magnolia's cockthirst too because she's barely a character beyond fellating him.
>>333655432
But Japs hate Ringabel, besides Yew had that whole chastity thing were he was not only dumb but refused to be lewd. He'd just stand there lecturing Ringabel the entire time.
And Janne and Ringabel. Those are polar opposites. One wants girls and the other could care less and gets easily frustrated. Those would be entertaining clashes. Especially if you make it so more women are attracted at first glance to Janne instead of Ringabel, funnies will ensue.
>>333654683
It feels more like a giant DLC than a stand alone game. There is no redoing and the most broken jobs have been nerfed so it's more of the same but improved upon in every way.
>>333650643
Already did. The story is weird as fuck when you get to the cowboy girl with japanese voices and text. I didn't know cowboys had tribes.
>>333655664
Yeah, Magnolia did feel a bit flat especially comparing to her appearance on the teaser.
>>333655779
If the game wasn't locked to the 2 guys 2 girls thing we could have had Ringabel replace Nikolai and have 2 musketeers+ Ringadong + Magnolia. That could appeal us both.
Would have made the plot more interesting maybe.
>3 Warriors of light captured
>Ringabel who was out of this world could never be found.
>Rescue each of the warriors of light with the climax of chapter 4 being awakening Tiz and reuniting him with Agnes
There was very little emotion on Tiz's awakening on BS for me.
>>333656262
At least Ringabel appears in the story.
>>333655779
>But Japs hate Ringabel
Japan shows good taste for once.
You deserve it for supporting Nintendo when they hate you.
>>333656308
How hard was it to try and eat pancakes on that ship?
Which job combinations do you guys use in BS?
Can't find a good application for Kaiser.
>>333656410
>>333655606
already figured it out
homebrew gen
>>333656495
Kaiser doesn't have any major applications by the time you get it.
Dawn of Odyssey can be good if you throw it on someone though.
>>333653069
Sexual stuff probably NoA
The sidequest "censorship" was SE internal. It was a complaint japs had about how the ABCD choice system worked so they changed it to only go CD
>>333656495
>Chapters 1 - 4
Wizard + Bishop + Duelist + Whatever
>Chapters 5 on
>Meteor Rain * 24
Game is significantly easier to cheese than Default.
>>333650643
Buy the JP version and pirate the eng one
>>333656879
don't buy any version
Can someone tell what they change? I really like the first one and I've been hearing nothing but bad stuff about the second.
>>333656625
so his ability that makes effects target only one character works with Kaiser buffs?
Now the job makes more sense
>>333654270
J A N N E
A
N
N
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>smug as shit
>decent character design
>fantastic in the demo
>completely wasted in the main game
WHY
>>333654270
You're telling me that they actually planned for Jean and Nikolai to be playable?
That just makes me angrier.
>tfw I'm still buying this game.
Fuck I fucking hate Edea.
>>333654270
Is there one for Nikolai
>>333650643
Game sucks dick censorship or not.
>>333650643
No, the artbook was the final straw. Why would you censor sketches, I have no idea.
>>333657002
A good number of player costumes are changed to be less sexy.
A class with looks based on American Indians is changed to a cowboy class.
Those two I agree are bad.
The sidequest thing isn't as bad as people make it seem. Most sidequests are mostly choosing whichever side you think is right, and the losing side will give you their asterisk. Two problems
>To get the Asterisk you want you may need to make the choice you don't agree with
>Both choices might be fucking retarded with characters acting as if there isn't a middle ground
First one is somewhat good game design, but the problem is the choice don't matter and in the original japanese the characters would feel bad no matter which choice they made.
Now, when you get the chance in game to have your go at these choices again, you'd obviously go for the asterisk you didn't get earlier in the game. Except that the characters will again feel bad over the choice they made. The only way the characters would feel fulfilled over their choices would be to choose the same option twice, which outright locks you from a class until new game +. This whole thing was pointless and so knowing that a lot of people hated having to repeat mundane stuff over and over on Default they decided to remove doing mundane stuff over and over on Second.
>>333657047
It doesn't, no.
Dawn of Odyssey is the new, re-balanced Hasten World.
Kaiser excels at buffing both enemies and allies and you can't even dispel the buffs on your enemies to make it less worthless.
>>333657316
I've looked and I don't think it got released.
>>333656654
Care to elaborate on the sidequest thing?
>>333651959
>but that's localization
What a pathetic sheep.
>>333650643
The so-called "bad endings" mostly involve Edea regretting her choices. Having them adds no value to anything other than giving you a hollow incentive to go through those sidequests 4 times instead of 2.
>>333657184
Based
>>333654270
>samurai job didn't make it into the final gameWouldn't make much sense for him to hold an asterisks, though.
>>333650643
When does this end? So a little bit of censorship is okay for almost every major release? As long as it is only "minor" things you are okay with it happening forever?
MRGRGR!
I thought the first game was okay. Bland story and bland characters with mostly bland gameplay. But the art style was cute and the music was great. And now people are saying the second game is worse?
>>333650643
>import original
>shelve it
>install uncensored cia on your hacked 3ds
>win
Skip points 1 & 2 if you're not a moralfag. Either way you're doing the right thing.
>>333659694
Mrgr?
>>333654270
Good.
I wanted Tiz. I fucking love that country-bumpkin.
>OH NO HOW DARE THE PREVIOUS GAME MC WHO WAS HINTED TO RETURN AT THE EPILOGUE OF THE FIRST GAME RETURN
You people complain about the dumbest shit.
Complain about how irrelevant the Ba'als or how about how Magnolia was blander than wet-paper. Not about one of the few things that actually make sense to happen in Second.
>>333660492
refer to
>>333654709
>>333660606
Except no. 3/4 of the game is about Yew. Shitty as it was, the story we got literally wouldn't happen if we took Yew away for Janne. It would be a completely different thing if so.
It could be better? Perhaps. But saying it would be literally the same because Yew "doesn't matter" like you say here >>333655406 is silly.
>>333660859
refer to
>>333655406
>>333661020
I already referred to that and said you are a retard.
I'll say it once more for good measure: You are a retard.
>>333661136
>retard
>for suggesting to remove a weak character with a better one
Nah
>>333650643
I'm not buying Bravely Second, but censorship has nothing to do with it. Bravely Default was boring and tediously repetitive, with the job system being the only decent part of the game. By most accounts, Bravely Second is worse in that regard.
No thank you.
>>333654474
Even if it is, it is not NoA's place to fix things according to their tastes.
Didn't buy the first one, not buying this one.
Haven't played it yet but what's this about bad ends to a side quest. Was there a way to actually fail a side quest by doing something else that wasn't what you were supposed to do to complete it or is it just something like no reward but you still completed it?
luckily the 3ds is hacked now so i can have my cake and eat it too.
Any uncensored version with bad ends?
and is it true that the bad ends were shitty things that didn't change the story much and should be overlooked?
I REALLY want to play BS but the bad ends irks me.
The 'bad endings' existed so you had to go through each sidequest FOUR FUCKING TIMES before you got to see every ending to them.
Truly it was brought to you by the same geniuses that that looping the world four times in BD was a good idea.
>>333664170
So no important story details are missing?
>>333664245
No. Sidequests are 100% disconnected from the main story and only serve as cameos for the old asterisk holders and a chance to get some of the jobs from the first game.
As a sidenote, the jobs you choose aren't that important either since the game seems to be balanced mostly around all the new jobs that you get from the main story, so feel free to not make your choices based on which job to get.
>>333663314
Wasn't this directly addressed by the Japanese developers?
>>333664992
It was based on the feedback of the Japanese players so that's very likely.
>>333658457
Localization is the adaptation of a product or service to meet the needs of a particular language, culture or desired population's "look-and-feel."
Educate yourself bitch nigga.
If I had it my way I wouldn't cut or censor anything, just translate it.
Still not buying this game.
>>333662480
This.
