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Why is it so fun?
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Because you're a filty facebook-tier casual neo blizzdrone
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>>333638494
>implying people still want to continue playing a shallow moba based around currency and itemization instead of brawling and teamwork.
Step up your fun game senpai.
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>>333638241
nice bait faggot not biting it
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>>333638241
because it moves away from that one map....you know the moba map the one everyother game has and u end up playng a thousand times
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Arthas overhaul when? Thrall talent revamp when?
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>>333640034
He and Anub are the next on line.
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is this confirmed or rumored?
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>>333640365
confirmed by devs they also mention they are adding a new R to zagara she's going to be the first hero with 3 Rs.
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Oh, nice thread you've got there, hope no assblasted dotards will get in here :^)
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>>333640467
I really hope they'll give kerri's tarrasque to zag.
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>>333640467
>R to zagara she's going to be the first hero with 3 Rs.
wahhhhhh that's insane, I've heard them tease us about multiple heroic options beyond just 2 but I didn't know they came out with information about Zagara!
I always wanted Thrall to have a Lightning-element Heroic Ability but from what I can tell they wanted him to wield 4 elements (Q-Lightning, W-Fire, E-Wind, R1R2- Earth)
So I guess a Stormy ult isn't fitting for this template but I always wanted him to do unleash a massive stormbolt or something. (Like against Mannoroth in the WC3 cutscene)
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>>333641180
there are too many useless r in the fucking game I don't know why they want to add new ones.
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>>333638241
It's fun
But they are adding shit heroes though.
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MAIEV WHEN?
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>>333641437
Well my guess is to make heroics less cookiecutter and more situational. That way you don't need to buff the shit out of Nydus Network but you can still have it a niche pick.
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>>333641931
They buffed nydus but it will always be shit next to maw.
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butcher main reporting in
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>>333642186
are you br?
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>>333642057
Either way it'll be nice to see what they can come up with for her options because one thing the developers like to do is break away from the mold.
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>>333641825
Probably not for a long time. First we need more Diablo heroes, then more Overwatch heroes and then if there's time we might see a Warcraft hero.
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>>333641825
>>333642469
Maybe with Legion's launch in WoW.
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> blizzard heroes allstar

>adds faggy original heroes like landwhale hammer or pussy panda to cater the need of le female gamer

>instead of kelthuzad garosh bael duke etc.

blizzard fucking up their own game as usual
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>>333642319
She's had like 3 different kits prior to this one. Her last kit was the one that kerrigan had now and they just swapped her skills with Kerrigan.

The dev team also has alot of crazy ass idea that they can't find right character for. Leoric for example used to have a trait that hid his team's ability indicators. So the enemy team wouldn't know what abilitites you where using.

In the end they removed it because it didn't feel like Leoric at all.
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>>333642628
>pussy panda
she's from WoW but yeah they thought they need to appeal to casual grill gamers.
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>tfw wanted to play as Tassadar since i was like 10
>tfw bilz makes this pathetic excuse of a game
>tfw they make him a fucking support
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>>333642934
>She's had like 3 different kits prior to this one. Her last kit was the one that kerrigan had now and they just swapped her skills with Kerrigan.
Hmm the only thing I was aware of is that they swapped heroic abilities, I haven't heard anything about the rest of her skills.
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>>333642628
>garosh
Keep dreaming, they don't add characters that where first introduced in WoW. Only characters from WC3. other old Warcraft games and novels.
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Tried to start playing this again recently but I was utterly turned off by the fact that I couldn't play any hero I felt like at any given time without grinding and that no other hero is more fun than Abathur.
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>>333643042
Tassadar can be spec'd to be a killer you uninformed idiot.
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>>333643001
>implying Li Li is lore-wise more important and popular character than anyone else

even fucking huffer is more important than this pandaren bitch
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>>333643156
All heroes are free this entire weekend so you can try some out. Downside is that all heroes are free this weekend so the other 4 guys on your team have no fucking idea how to play their hero.
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>>333643193
yet hots is still a shit game of a shit genre
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>>333643110
>they don't add characters that where first introduced in WoW
Lili?
ETC?
Not to mention nameless wc3 units that became archetypal icons such as Rehgar, Murky and Stitches that had no presence in the wc3 campaign.
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>>333643110
>Li Li Stormstout first appeared in Mist of Pandaria

>mfw
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>>333643193
>You will never relive the glory days of Tassagod back in beta where he had the AoE of a specialist, the shields of a support and the damage of an assasin.
RIP archon ult.
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>>333643383
cry me a river faglord, just be happy I educated your dumb ass.
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>>333643110
this man didn't play w3 did he

>they don't add characters that where first introduced in WoW

>Li Li, ETC was in W3

>in alternate universe
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>>333643505

but when are you getting educated to escape your poverty, anon?
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>>333643396
>>333643449
>>333643535
ETC was in WC3.
Li li is the only exception to that rule but they needed a token Loli characters to attract pedofags and a furry character to attract furfags. 2 birds with 1 stone.
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>>333643648
>resorting to shitposting
stop.
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>>333643329
Or I could just not bother to waste my time because all heroes won't be free forever.

Let's be real, if I wanted to tolerate that business model I'd just go play LoL.
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>>333643661
ETC in WC3 as a joke not a character. It would't fit into your categorization.
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>>333643661

still blizzard is prioritizing shitty female characters to fill the gender gap

because so many good heroes in blizzard franchises are all male and that is big nono
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>>333643738
>if I wanted to tolerate that business model I'd just go play LoL.
you're a fucking idiot if you think you can just shrug off the business model debate by just referencing LoL.
In League you have to rune up your champions and shit and heavily invest into your account.
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>>333643864
>still blizzard is prioritizing shitty female characters to fill the gender gap
holy shit faggot grow up
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>>333642469
Isnt tracer the only overwatch hero to be released?
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>>333643864
hey more ass is fine by me.
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>>333639480
>using shallow as an argument against any other game in the same genre when defending HotS
Now I know you're baiting.
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>>333643879
>implying wasting god forsaken copycat 3rd rate moba with queue time of 10 min average is not heavily investing
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>>333644031
I bet you think farming up a Boots of Travel on Tinker is deep?
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>>333643981
i'm not even shit posting

devs said they would maintain the gender ratio and the reason they introduced original heroes like morales or hammer is because they almost ran out of female heroes in the sage

think about it virjaina, kerrigan, sylva, female dh, and few other female chara are about it in blizzard game

even they had to use female barbarian and crusader
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>>333643879
>heavily invest in your account
>in exchange for not playing less focused and competitive, more casualized throw-away game
>imblying grinding for heroes is okay in HotS because you don't have to also grind for runes
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>>333644058
the only time queue times were fucked is when they had to recalibrate the matchmaking to be more precise to make better matches, and now it's like back to the regular 1 or 2 min wait.
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>Fucking when?
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>>333638241
In my opinion it is because it's not "serious business" for the guys playing it unlike dota 2 and lol faggots.
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>>333644151
Deeper than shared exp and a build variety of 1 with 0 items and therefore 0 additional abilities
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>>333644197
>i'm not even shit posting
Yes it is.

>devs said they would maintain the gender ratio and the reason they introduced original heroes like morales or hammer is because they almost ran out of female heroes in the sage

Post source faggot.
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>>333644280
>0 additional abilities
confirmed you haven't even played the game.
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>>333644221
>ordinary excusing from dying game

>barely 1 year old
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>>333638241
The game is fun but I can't stand the Battle.net client and freemium model so it had to go
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>>333644351
>resorting to shitposting
Come back when you actually have an argument.
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>>333643864
>shitty female characters to fill the gender gap
I think you and i both know there's a very different reason that they are adding female characters.

Someone on the artist team has a pretty big midriff fetish and i'm ok with that.

>>333643781
still counts. Gazlowe is from a game that wasn't even released, he still counts as well.
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>>333644332
I played it to level 10 or 12 or whatever it was to get the HS card and then promptly deleted it. Even LoL was better.
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>>333644280
That's totally what I love doing... having to re-buy the same items every single match and re-earning coins.
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>>333644459
>same items every match
Good job outing yourself as lolbabby
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>>333644427
>Gazlowe is from a game that wasn't even released
Gazlowe was present in the founding of Durotar campaign with Rexxar.
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>>333644552
>thinking there's a plethora of viable item combos.

I played LoL for 2 years. Buying shit is extremely repetitive.
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>>333644427
you are stretching so hard to implement non-existent rule of adding only WC3 heroes

can't even provide source of developers saying that they are doing exactly that
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>tfw main nazeebo since start
>feel absolutely useless unless i got Leaping spiders because almost everyone can murder the zombie wall

Fix when
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>>333644718
>can't even provide source of developers saying that they are doing exactly that
Same goes for you faggot >>333644307
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>>333644690
No fucking shit the builds are stale in LoL
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>>333644814
> late starter who have to compete with doto and lolo

>patches are so sparsely done that they still don't have 80+ heroes yet

>balance patches are so sparse as well

seems like blizzard is so ashamed of this god awful failure so they cut resources to the dev team
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Played it for a night, having played Dota since wc3 I just couldn't play a Down syndrome version of Dota. It's more casual than league, and chicks play league
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>>333644718
yeah this guy is definitely stretching hard to make it seem like they're only adding wc3 heroes.
With that said I can definitely see them having an emphasis on bringing back the old WC3 units and incorporating it into this game because we are all familiar with those recognizable silhouettes of iconic units (especially because of DotA)
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>>333644826
same goes 4u my friend :^)
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>>333645013
:^)
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>>333644567
He was originally from Warcraft Adventure: Lord of the clans. The point-and-click that got canceled. I forgot that he made an appearence in WC3 as well.

>>333644718
>Only WC3 heroes
I said characters before WoW, i never said it was WC3 only, Cho'gall is from WC2, Zul'jin as well i believe. Gaz is from Lords of the clan. and some characters where first introduced in novels like Greymane, Falstad and Reghar

also
>Literally only 1 character that came from WoW
>All heroes have their WC2/3 look like cho'gall, THrall, Jaina, Sylvanas
>OC characters like Brightwing and Lunara based off of WC3 units added before heavy lore WoW characters like raidbosses or other NPC's
Gee i fucking wonder where i got that idea.
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>>333645142
>Reghar
Rehgar technically is from the WoW comics, but he represents the WC3 Shaman support spellcaster unit's archetypal role.
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>>333644935
>New hero every 4 weeks
>Keep Pumping more and more money into esports
Sure is dying a game friendo.
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>>333643156
>>333643738
What confuses me the most about HotS's grindy champion unlock schema is how antithetical to casual play it is, especially compared to some of their other products. Specifically, Diablo 3.

It's weird how non-monetized Diablo 3 is now. You can buy Diablo 3 +/- Reaper of Souls and have access to the entire game with no grind-bypassing paywalls or paid cosmetic customizations. The latter really confuses me because that's where Path of Exile makes a lot of it's cash and there's a lot of room and options for ways to customize the appearance of your gear and character that people would no doubt be willing to put a few dollars down on. And it's not like they've abandoned the game; there's still regular updates and smatterings of new content every couple months.

So I don't quite get why HotS is the complete opposite. It's free-to-play, obviously, but there's no option to buy in for, say, $60 and have all heroes unlocked. There's still quite a few high-quality hero skins if they really want to milk disposable income.
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>>333645315
>pumps more money into esports

>no viewership increase or playerbase increase

>pumps more money and act all cool

>slowly dies inside knowing that this is a failure
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>>333645325
farming gold for the 10k heroes is not really hard you just have to do the daily quest and lvl characters to 5.
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>>333645418
>no viewership increase or playerbase increase
Source?
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>>333638494
this

hots is dogshit. sad, too, because it could have been really good if it wasn't so casualized
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>>333645142
you initially stated
>>333643110
>Keep dreaming, they don't add characters that where first introduced in WoW.

which is a completely factual statement. They've already datamined soundfiles referencing Grom and Garrosh in the game, and at Blizzcon 2013 they listed a massive art panel of potential heroes, and it literally showcased every single Blizzard name you can imagine.
You are over exaggerating simply because they decided to import classics first.
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>>333645590
well if there were huge influx of viewship and concurrent players, blizzard marketing team would have used that data as advertisement already

even just counting twitch viewership compare to other mobas, this one is way too low, always in the third place

it even has fewer viewship in twitch compare to WoW and that tells a lot
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>>333645817
viewership shouldn't be the only factor for popularity considering they have more active playerbase than SMITE, even though SMITE has more viewership on Twitch.
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>>333645590
nevermind 4th place since smite has more viewers in fact

you can go "bu..but twitch is not the only parameter" yada yada and still other games are oligopolying the shit out of views and players
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>>333646009
True it still has less viewers then smite, but it has more viewers then around a year ago when it was still stuck at 3K on average. Altought not by much, the viewership is still increasing.
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>>333645517
Nobody thinks it's "really hard" to get gold, however the amount (and thus rate) you get is pitifully low.

If you game the daily quests you'll average 400 gold per day (otherwise it's ~355), not including the pitiful amount you get per game, that's one 10k hero every 25 days which is probably barely faster than the rate at which they release new heroes.
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>>333646290
i think most games have exponential growth around launch ~ 1 year anniversary

think about how liquid forum said SC2 would regian its former glory in korea

then they said wait for HotS

then they said wait for LotV, still not as successful and now already in declining phase in everywhere

HOTS shows very similar viewership/playerbase growth and it really doesn't have enough merit to steal that stats from other games

for a year old game which had had so much hype and advertisement it is safe to say it is failing and dying
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>>333646314
yeah but that's just daily quests alone.
You get 500 gold for leveling a hero to level 5, 750 for leveling them to 9 and even more post level 10. and this works for free heroes, not just the heroes that you own.

You also get gold for leveling your account wich will help you purchase several heroes.

Added to that is also that not all heroes are 10K, they are dropped in price arbitrarily to 2K-4K-7K.

You'd except Actiblizz to make all the best heroes 10K and pricedrop the shit ones but that's not even the case. most of the 2K heroes are top tier.

And even on top of all that you don't buy every hero. Some of them will be too shit and not worth the money and some won't interest you.
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https://youtu.be/t9_8fPT4YjI
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>tfw unironically enjoy this game much more than dota or lol

Would rather 20 minutes of teamfights than 50 minutes of pve followed by blaming the carry for not doing his job
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>>333646861
>heroes like raynor, muradin, zagara and johana are piss cheap
>heroes like sylvanas, azmodan and rexxar are 10k
this is bonkers

>>333647138
games are so short and fun
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>>333647054
You have a garbage channel you shitter
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>>333640467
>R to zagara she's going to be the first hero with 3 Rs.
Unless you count tracer who's heroic is going to be a modifier to pulse bomb and you have 3 choices.
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>>333647220
>games are so short and fun

story of your sex life (and moba life) :)
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>>333647054
>linking people to your shitty youtube channel
Can you not?

>>333647138
>tfw fell in love with the crazy ass heroes like Abathur, Cho'gall and TLV.
I want more gimicky heroes
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>>333647276
Doesn't count I mean is still the same R with a modifier zagara is going to have 3 choices to pick.

>>333647327
what can I say anon your mom is easy to please :P
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>>333647327
>>333647327
Im okay with that, a quick games a good game in any aspect

I just think of it as making good time
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>>333647276
Still just going to be 3 different version of 1 R. Not 3 different ults entirely.
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>>333647138
so basically communist version of moba where every one gets same exp and Good Boy Points, do gangbangs with your comrades

much marx very europe
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when overwatch launches nobody going to play heroes of storm
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>>333647483
>Stretching a point this hard

I just like to fight people in a multiplayer game bro

If I wanted to kill pve mobs for an hour id go play a good game instead of dota
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Who /vikings/ here?
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>>333647483
without this shared experience system you can't have intresting niche hero kits like Abathur, Murky or the Lost Vikings.
It's a hero brawler with an emphasis on fighting each other, so the de-emphasising lane farming for hero progression was a natural fit.
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>>333647379
Thats another thing, I enjoy how creative some of the heroes are, I dont like all of them, but props to blizzard for trying to do something new
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>>333647572
>onlywatch
Enjoy you censorship.
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>Why is it no fun?
ftfy
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>>333647138
>followed by blaming the carry for not doing his job

People still find interesting and creative ways of blaming losses on one person who had virtually nothing to do with it.
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>>333647874
yeah appreciate those unique heroes but still communist though
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>>333647927
>that johanna

And my morning boner just subsided too, fuck.
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>>333647138
people still blame in HotS like why not join teamfight, why pick that hero, why not li ming etc
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>>333648008
doesn't matter to me, I had plenty of fun in the past playing DotA and I'm having a blast with a nice change of pace with HotS.
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>>333642628
>talking shit about Hammer
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Maybe dota ruined me but I just cannot enjoy something that's as simple as HOTS anymore. The game feels insanely watered down and simplistic and that just rubs me the wrong way
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Haven't played lately, saw the newest patch revamped some heroes (kael, illidan, sylv), how are they now? Is mind control better than possession or WA?
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>>333639480
>senpai
>>>/twitter/
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>>333648336
yea too casul

if i had handicapped micro and macro i would have loved this hubbydubby safe-space moba game
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>>333648007
>>333648134
>ask team to push lanes
>their collective response is "lol you do it"
>I'm playing Nova
>lanes still aren't getting pushed
>several "please push lanes"/"lol you do it" exchanges later decide to just give up and try as best I can
>team starts complaining that I'm pushing lanes

Look, team, even before Nova got hella nerfed she couldn't do jack shit when you're down 2-3 levels because your team is suiciding into theirs over and over.
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>>333638241
What I expected
>Bloodline champions gameplay with objectives, fuckloads of maps and blizzard characters
What it is
>braindead LoL with shitty optimization and worse prices
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>>333648432
you new?
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>>333647054
>MY BEST PLAYS
>Gets shitbeaten then two assists with Sonya
>BEST PLAYS
>obnoxious music, sounds like pac-man singing

i hope you go to prison
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>>333648569
>I'm playing Nova
You're a retard dude.
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>start playing, first moba, no idea what to do
>trash hl mmr, stuck between r20-30
>practice practice practice
>slowly rise out of the dumpster, incremental mmr improvements, no bonus points in sight
>eventually reach r1
>game quality isn't much better overall, had more exciting and rewarding games in the r5-10 region
>5 out of 100 games reach perfection for the entire team, zero communication needed, everyone in sync
>95 out of 100 games are: lost in draft, stomped by superior git guds, derailed by ally, unwinnable due to bot(s), unenjoyable due to keyboard warriors raging, filled with pinging of silenced players
>population pool is low so you'll keep running into these same players
>try smurf account, maybe it's just my crappy mmr
>reach r1 quickly
>nope, still the same shit again
>realize that qm has better qol than hl

latest patch is also a sign of where things are heading in terms of talent choices (not great). there are good things in the game but when it sucks it reeeally sucks.
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> sjws are faggots for demanding safespace from all the harms lelelel

>cant play moba without safespace because current year and feelings matter

which is it faggots? play hots then you should also post in tumblr
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>>333648695
>worse prices
nope.
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Whose your favorite hero, /v/?
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>>333648754
Thanks for making our point for us.
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>>333648838
Yes worse prices.
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>>333648897
you wish, enjoy stuffing your stretched asshole with runes fagboy.
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>>333648846
Maybe after the revamp because I can rape that piece of shit with greymane in 2 seconds right now.
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>>333648846
chogall.

What the fuck where they thinking?
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>>333648846
much necro
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>>333648048
Jojo a best

>>333648336
That's fine, to each their own. If you're interested i'd suggest trying out Greymane or TLV in the free weekend that's going on. They're the highest skillcap heroes in my opinion. maybe that's the sort of difficulty you're looking for. If not you can always play something else.

>>333648428
Illidan is pretty good again, top tier i'd say. They made him a little tankier and tweaked him overall.

For sylv they put posession on level 7 as a talent and still nobody picks it. Mind control is pretty dope, way better then possesion but Wailing arrow is still better in most situations. At least she has a better alternative now. her other reworks where pretty meh, she has a better winrate now though.

Kael'thas is... actually worse off then he was before. He's dropped to second lowest winrate after his rework.

The last one they reworked was tychus he's... absolute garbage, lowest winrate overall and still dropping. his rework was a fucking disaster.
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>>333649226
It's not that i'm particularly good at high level micro, it's the macro that bugs me. The lack of emphasis on last hitting and denying and getting those items makes the game way too simple for me.
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>>333649226
>his rework was a fucking disaster.
I blame shitters because he's a fucking killing machine.
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>>333648986
>implying I play MOBAs
I'm not retarded enough to do that.
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>>333649407
so not only do you lack experience you were baiting with your misinformation? Gotcha
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>>333638494
>>333645657
you guys say it like it's a bad thing.
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>>333638241
its not
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>>333649396
His damage can't be argued against, the problem is how he dies the moment he tries to actually AA something. He's got one defensive talent and it's basically a glorified spell shield
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>>333649407
>so bad at moba, cant get gud

>gets trashtalked by chinks and cykas

>MOBA is retarded becuz i am bad >:((

boy your parents cuddle you well didn't they
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>>333647927
>>333649226
It just struck me that this artist seems unwilling to draw the side of her head that's shaven.
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>>333649193
>go a full skeleton build for shits and giggles on Spider Queen
>have a keep almost dead by 10 minutes

well that went better then expected
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>>333649747
good, vanilla Anajinn best crusader anyways. Fuck this dike abomination haircut version.
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>>333649747
With reason, it's wierd to draw.
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>>333647927
>drawing Johanna, Valla, and Li-Ming
>doesn't draw Sonya
The musclegirl that Blizzard got right gets no love.
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>>333649473
>you lack experience
I don't play it currently, I've played every similar game on the market until I realized that the genre isn't going anywhere good.

>>333649712
>"game is shit son"
>"lel ur bad git gud scrub"
Shouldn't have expected anything else from this cancerous community.
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>>333649936
He's a drawfag in /hotsg/. He was working on a version that had Sonya and Nova in it, dunno what happened to him.
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>>333649968
>I realized that the genre isn't going anywhere good.
you can fuck off now, considering HotS is a team brawler not a MOBA
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>>333649968
>so immature and insecure that he can't just admit that he is bad at something

>the community is toxic the game is retarded i'm not playing it

>tips fedora into mountain dew
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Why anybody would willingly play HotS over Dota 2 is completely beyond me. But I guess it does a good job at filtering out the casual dudebros and twitch camwhores.
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>>333650295
some of us are just completely exhausted with the old map objectives of the past.
One day you will have franchise fatigue of DotA like myself and realize HotS is a nice fix for a quick 15 min match full of brawling.
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>>333650295
Ah yes, because over the last 12 months your games have had less idiots in them because they all left and camwhores aren't streaming your game anymore... oh wait.
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>>333650295
It's kinda hard to get hype for a game that has to last 45 minutes at least anymore
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>>333650443
>>333650573
If you don't like MOBA's why are you even playing them?
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>>333650632
some people just enjoy a quick match, rather then and hour of it
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>>333650747
Dota 2 has custom games that don't require you to pay money to play heroes.
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>>333650632
no one here said they don't like MOBAs, some of us are indeed bored of the stale old objectives and are open to new ideas such as a team brawler with an emphasis on quick matches full of battles over primary objectives.
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>>333648846
zerathul is pretty fun
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One thing that always astonished me was how Aghanim's Scepter in DotA was so impactful and how it fundamentally changed one of your abilities instead of just adding on top like your typical items.
I really enjoy HotS for giving us interesting talents that give us that same unique ability altering effects.
Hopefully they keep releasing talent overhauls and keep fine tuning talent options.
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>>333648846
arthas, but he's progressively becoming more and more unfun to play as burst and mobility keeps rising in the game
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>>333652671
reworking soon
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>>333650295
HoTs did to LoL what LoL did to Dota.
They just simplify and then add a few unique things of their own for "fun" factor.
Some people just don't want to have to invest the time into learning all the Dota heros/builds/ward spots/pull spots/timers/etc. I have friends who play all 3 games and typically the majority like the more casual less "tryhard" games.

However LoL definitely costs way more in the form of ip/time to get all the things than HoTs. Obviously Dota gives you everything from the get-go because it is the true one e-sport.
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>>333648846
It feels like all my favorite characters just keep getting nerfed. I can only get wins with Chen now.
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>>333652723
they confirmed it's not gonna be anything major, which makes me think he's gonna get his healing buffed, become op as fuck, and eventually get nerfed again.
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>>333652915
It's HotS, not HoTs
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>>333653078
are you autistic?
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>>333653023
Where? They said it was going to be a full revamp along with Anub arak.
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>>333653141
are you stupid?
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>>333653078
>being that sensitive to acronym capitalization

literally clinical retard
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>>333653227
Don't avoid my question. Are you autistic?
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>>333652915
You only get 30 gold per win in HotS and heroes can cost 10,000 gold. I don't understand how that's less time and in-game currency.
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>>333653267
just trying to correct you so you don't make a fool out of yourself.
Btw, HoTs stands for Heals over Time.
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>>333653194
Anubarak is small changes. Arthas is medium/large changes. I wouldn't expect a full rework.
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>>333653267
>"wahhh he corrected me, he must be a clinical retard!! xD"
stop
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>>333653387
>so you don't make a fool out of yourself.

i will make sure to not make myself a fool in front of vidya playing nerds in real life my friendo
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>>333653194
Trying to find the blue post, but they said something like they aren't going to redo his entire kit, and want to tune his numbers, but then added their blizzard "obviously that's subject to change at any time" I'll post it when I find it, sry anon.
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>>333653543
>correcting people on made up word which only gayming nerds use

>
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>>333653456
>>333653583
well fudge I feel sorry for the people who like them tanks.
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>>333648846
Sonya, I guess.

Loved Anub before they nerfed the shit outta him.
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>>333653668
This is getting beyond stupid.
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>>333653668
it's a simple acronym that gets confused with already pre-established ones such as Heal over Time.
Thanks to heroes such as Malfurion that heals in such a way it's only logical to capitalize correctly so you don't confuse the readers.
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>>333653749
real serious question do you really get your bone hard watching this and why
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>>333653851
As long as it has tits and ass with a human level intelligence it's good for me
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>>333653792
>context

>autistic sofeware in his brain is incompatible with it
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Is this worth playing if I only ever really play dota?
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>>333648846
Tyrael
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>>333653851
To be fair it's sitll a dick going into a pussy at the end of the day, i'd be more willing to ask this if he was posting like scat porn or something
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>>333653948
you are true humanist ma friend :^)
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>>333653668
Even normal people understand that in an acronym you only capitalize important words, not articles or conjunctions
League, Legends
Defense, Ancients
Heroes, Storm
get it retard?
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>>333653968
You still mad you're dumbass that can't admit he's wrong? I'm not even autistic but it's hilarious watching you cry.
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>>333647054
>low settings
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST


>>333647138
same here. Sometimes I just want to get a game in, and not have to deal with the shit that comes from league and other mobas. One fuck up, and everyone jumps down your throat, rather than trying to fix it. Usually at that point the team is pulled all the way down into the pit of shit, so there's no way of winning because everyone is on tilt.

Meanwhile in hots you've queued up for your 2nd game, win or loss for the one prior.
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>>333654058
My favorite is male human on female xeno because it lets me self insert
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>>333654095
i didn't even post the first HoTS yada yada but you have raging hard erection for correcting non-existent grammar issue so good for you buddy
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>>333654106
Honestly I used to agree with this, but the HoTS community is goin the same way of the other 2, there's so many elitist fucking people in this game now, and they are all fucking awful. Seeing someone rage because I pick a sylvanas when I'm the best person on both teams is laughable to me. I've never seen such a giant disparity between elitism and actual player skill in any game.
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Is there an equivalent of best spider in hots?
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>>333654260
Doesn't even matter what you post at this point in time, I was correct and he was wrong, I wrote a simple correction and that's the end of the discussion.
Pissing and moaning about it is just feeding me delicious salty tears.
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>>333654403
>correction based on not existing word and not existing grammar rule

how correct is it then
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>>333654403
>>333654496
>being this insecure about being right or wrong
on 'gaming diction'

never change you basement dwellers, never change
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>>333654496
it's very correct:
"Heroes of the Storm" = HotS
"Heroes of The storm" =HoTs, incorrect
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Is there anything even worthwhile about HOtS?
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>>333654384
no, not yet at least
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>>333638241
/v/ shits on this game but I actually have a blast with it. Mainly because I play with friends but it's really actually fun
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Wish I could sell my account.

> most broken ranked system of all
> unbalanced heros
> you can't 1v5 but one guy can and will lose you the game
> literally exactly 1 skill choice is viable

I guess I am just too much of a tryhard but this game is the most casual piece of garbage of any moba.

t. rank 1
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>>333654615
hoTS doesn't offer spider so i guess not
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>>333654302
Yeah I gave up on HL. Whenever I just feel like jumping into a game and fucking shit up, QM is the way to go. Sure you have some bad teammates, but games aren't long enough that you get too frustrated with them.

>>333654649
stop playing HL and play QM. Try some shit, have fun. If you're going to be a tryhard, play a different game.
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>>333654649
balance team should kill themselves

blizzard is know for having the worst balance designers in the scene but this game tops past dudes
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>>333654624
Are there any heroes in hoTS with micro?
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>>333654649
ranked games are fucking horrible in this game
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>>333654806
Rexxar, Lost Vikings, bit of Water Elemental micro with Jaina.
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>>333654806
hotS is all about micro my friend

micro transaction
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> play Hots ranked

> gains stage 4 cancer

> sue blizzard
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>>333654753
Used to play ranked but there's nothing to it anymore since I am rank. You can just queue up with 4 other people you know who aren't garbage and grind your way all to rank 1. Ranked system is pathetic or rather the playerbase. QM is shit cause of people like you who play 'just for fun m8, why are you so mad', literally what every useless Illidan picker says
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>>333655237
lol don't get me wrong, I play for fun and try shit, but I don't play like useless novas and illidans when they're free for a week. I still try to win, and I still try my best, I just don't do what i'm normally doing for a win.
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>Oh man I'm so ready to play this weekend
>every character is free weekend
fuck my luck
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>>333638241
This game will never have the following heroes:
>Dragoon
>Goliath
>Defiler
>Mephisto
>Baal
>Duriel

What's taking them so long?
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>>333655804
Mephisto and Baal has datamined information.
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>mfw we'll never get old god blood garrosh
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>>333655978
Don't fuck with me anon
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>>333656032
he's right we also have datamined info of varian, zuljin, samuro and vash
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>>333656031
We'll for sure get garrosh, but I highly doubt people would be okay with the old god version.

Granted sonya kindve already took his spot, so it'd be cool
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>>333644427
>Blizzard is full of midriff and ass men

Only good thing they have going.

>>333648846
Nova, even after the retarded rework which left her doing the same thing she did before. I miss double decoy, popping out 5 Novas around a target was fun as fuck.
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What basic abilities would Malthael have? I know one of his ults would be pretty cool if he shoots everyone all around him like in his boss fight, but what about his basic kit? (Assassin of course)
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>>333655978
Mephisto could be some sort of offensive support, instead of healing he just boosts heroes around him with HATE and some marginal healing.
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>>333638494
Incorrect. Especially since it's the only competently designed AotS game I've seen. Even with its shit-tier matchmaking, it's still better than the competition.

HotS does the following:

> Removes items and gold.
This is actually the smartest thing I've seen in mobas. Removing something somehow made it better. Hard to believe I know.

Although if you look at items in League right now, they look like giant fucking spreadsheets. Not to mention in spite of each redesign, the item shop is a chore to thumb through anyways.

> Creates on the fly builds through talents.
Wishy washy on that, but it's a little better than: "oh let me rank up this one basic ability that adds no alteration to my play-style."

> Laning is not entirely about farming minion kills.
It's more about making sure your enemy doesn't fuck up your own fort.

> It feels like there's less of a lane-meta.
Most of the time, sure you don't want support/heal based characters solo-laning unless they're tass or the like, but you can have roaming. Actual roaming. Blizzard brought a little strategy back in a game that was derived from strategy games.

> More than one map.
With objectives. OBJECTIVES that vary up your play-style further. Is the map good for split pushing? Maybe build this way! Is there going to be fuck tons more teamfighting than the others? Think about building another way instead.

Granted there are meta builds for all the characters, but there are many variants for all of them for the right situation.
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>>333653749
That's a really nice looking Webm.
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>>333656346
If they include him without Sha powers, he's going to be named Grom instead.
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>>333657371
>Wishy washy on that, but it's a little better than: "oh let me rank up this one basic ability that adds no alteration to my play-style."

It is not, there is 0 variation on how you play a hero except for 'okay I am going little less tanky and little more dmg on diablo'.

>>333657371
>This is actually the smartest thing I've seen in mobas.
In the beginning I thought that is THE greatest thing about Hots and adds a lot altruism and teamplay to a team but eventually it is ' I can't play Healer, me DMG please'
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>>333658892
>'okay I am going little less tanky and little more dmg on diablo'.
that IS variation. However it doesn't vary too far from the original character's design, which items tend to do.

That's why in league you see characters that look like ninjas tank shit stupidly easy. Meanwhile more heavy-set looking characters can be blown the fuck up.
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>>333659605
The objectives never change and they are important enough to make every single game centered around them. The ways you spec your character are also very limited.

You know what is variation? Variation is a huge selection of vastly different characters with unique mechanics that creates a ton of combinations. Variation is also being able to build a whole lot of different items to suit your needs that can vary greatly depending on the enemy team and their builds. You can make a team that will try pushing the all lanes at the very beginning leaving the enemy team with no chance for comeback, or you can opt for late game supporting your carry till they can oneshot the whole enemy team - that also sounds like variation to me.

I understand that our view points are very different, but to me it looks like Dota 2 is much more varied, and you are only disregarding its variety because it requires putting a bit of hard work into it.
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>>333648846
I'm only decent with Brightwing
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>>333659605
Anon, there is 0 variation in this game. Zeratul is the only Hero who can be played in somewhat different ways but Blizzard nerfed him to the ground for this exact reason. There's also 0 variation on how you play maps. It's supercasual and has nothing to offer longterm wise, that's why it is dead.
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>>333653372
I like how you leave out the 500 gold for getting a hero to level 5 (and then there's another decent bonus at level 9, not sure the exact amount but it's at least 500). You also leave out the daily quests, the biggest chunk of repeatable gold gain that can net you an easy 200-800g bonus a day depending on your luck and how many games you play. But yeah, keep shitposting. You can't win an argument if you start by lying.
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>>333661278
>there is 0 variation in this game
that's wrong and the new talent overhauls are steps in a positive direction. Of course you wouldn't know because you don't play the game.
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>>333654302
Honestly that's why I just do QM and have the mute all option on. I go into a moba for a quick game and I enjoy the feeling of teamfights, objective fighting, etc -- I don't need to hear some stupid teen insulting my mother because I didn't pick x top tier hero or made a mistake. The pings are usually enough to get the gist of what you want/what others want across, and I don't have to listen to the ridiculous bullshit moba players spew. I wouldn't do that in Hero League of course because communication is more important and rank is on the line, but I refuse to get stressed in an unranked match. Fuck that.
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>>333660684
what are you talking about, im not disregarding variety in dota 2 at all. Im just saying that HotS does offer variation within the characters themselves. However you're not going to span as wide as other games, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. That way there's a lower chance of someone building so far off character that they're useless the whole game, which i've seen in both league and dota many times. How do you like your teammates when they build nothing but mana items, even though they don't have a resource to boost? That can't happen in HotS, but each character can be played differently each game and still be focused around their base design.

Azmodan for example is decent specialist. If his minions get blown the fuck up, he's useless in that regard. However you can build him for teamfights with his portals and "dunk" his opponents. Next game, you can build him so that his minions have more life, do more damage to enemies, as well as having a different ult that rains down minions for taking down towers. There are other ways of playing him that vary upon those 2, and that's variation enough for the character.
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>>333660684
>forced to play the same single map
>forced to counterpick heroes
>forced to lane for half the game
>forced to buy a specific set of items for your character
>hurr durr dota has more variation because i play it and please dont tell me i've wasted my life

Blizzard made a game you can play twice a week and enjoy and not lose yourself as a total fucking mobasperg, crying yourself to sleep
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>>333662061
I reinstalled it 1-2 weeks ago just to remind myself how trash it is, also it's dead. Like even the biggest Blizzard Fanboy can't deny that this game is dead.
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>>333650063
Green was originally a dota drawfag.

Moving to HotS lost him all his fanbase, so he stopped.

HotS is dead, and shit.
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>>333662775
dunno sound like you're mad because he's not drawing for dota anymore.
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>>333662447

>requiring this much reason to justify hots

>couldn't come up with one solid one of purely being fun because it is not fun at all

blizz fags playing themselves to the next level wew
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Hots is pretty fun when you first play it with some friends, since it's easy as shit to get into, there's barely any mechanics to know so it's mostly just fighting the other team. But then if you actually play it more you end up getting bored as shit because there's barely any mechanics to improve on which kind of makes the competitiveness boring as shit.
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>>333663005
like every other game is fun to play with friends
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>>333647054
MMR 1483

please stop making videos
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>>333657371
All that text and you didn't make any arguments.

N O T
O
T
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>>333663108
Well I just meant if you have friends who don't normally play dota type games, it's much easier to get a group of 5 than if you want to play dota together where you'll probably have to spend a few games just explaining the really basic mechanics to people. I basically did that with some people I knew from my wow guild a long time ago, who didn't play heroes, and it was fun for a bit but then just got real boring to me since there isn't much variation to the game play.
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>>333648846
im top tier again bro, carrying games giving no shits
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>>333662914
Except he is Anon.
He stopped HotS ages ago.
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>>333638241

Because it is a casual LoL/DOTA

And having multiple maps with different objectives help.
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I got bored really quick. They got $50 from me for like 20 hours of playtime so I feel only moderately ripped off. Yeah I spent money so I could try most of the characters and that's my fault.
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>Playing as Malfurion
>Two guys join as Cho and Gall
>"Oh fuck, this is a loss"
>They top the scores by a fucking mile
>I end up strictly healing Cho because Gall's damage is ridiculous
>Our team gets 26 consecutive kills without one of us dying
>Hearing "HERO OF THE STORM" for the first time in game
>We killed everything. EVERYTHING. Even walls.
>Leveled my level 1 Malfurion from 1 to 4 in just one game

Free weekend is alright.
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