Your opinion on Sonic Advance
>>333578390
It's alright but Sonic the Hedgehog 2 will forever be the best Sonic game of all time with Sonic Adventure coming in 2nd.
Also, Sonic Shuffle >>> Crash Bash >>> the steaming pile of shit that is Mario Party.
>>333578390
It wasn't bad. It's like the New Super Mario Bros games; it's phoned in, but the system works so meh.
>>333578390
My favorite sonic games
I was hoping they would be featured in Generations 3DS but nooooooo
>>333578390
The actual Sonic 4.
>>333578390
Pretty good, it's not as classic feeling as the Genesis games but not as auto play feeling as rush or colors on the ds
Definitely on the better side of 2d sonic games
>>333578390
Good games that serve as a return to the sidescrolling playstyle. I wonder why they never ported these to anything?
>that confusing period between S3&K and Advance where 3D shook up the entire market but they still managed to do 2D Sonic games.
1995 - Knuckles Chaotix (32x)
1996 - Sonic Blast (Game Gear), Sonic 3D Blast (Isometric, but still 2D)
1999 - Sonic Pocket Adventure
>>333579809
Literally came here to post this.
You done good, anon.
>>333578390
Worst mobile game ever.
>>333578390
Isn't it just hold right to win?
I actually enjoyed Sonic Advance 2 the best out of the Advance games
>J-Just hold right to win!
If you're a slow ass mother fucker. Time attacking SAdv2 is fun as shit.
First one is really good. I could never get into 2 for some reason.
>>333578390
Would be amazing if they re-released the Advance games on PSN/XBLA/Steam with a Genesis-sized screen. It wasn't as much of a problem in 1 and 3 but 2 was the only Sonic game where "too fast, can't see shit" was a legitimate complaint because of the GBA's tiny-ass screen.
Also fuck 3's hub world.
Overall I'd say 1 was the best of the three, but it almost felt too slow when playing as Sonic.
>>333580012
I want to cum in Kumin
>>333579809
Fun 2D Sanics. I didn't like the bonus stages and they're so hidden I don't even bother anymore. Playing as Amy is a lot more fun than I thought it'd be
>>333578390
Sweet game! heck I like the entire trilogy over the Rush games.
>>333579809
Even Sonic Advance isn't good enough to bear that title, but it's infinitely better as a Sonic 4 than the official Sonic 4 is.
>>333578390
pretty good, i found my copy on the floor in the street
>>333579572
>Generations 3DS
That version consider Sonic Advance 3 the last of the Dreamcast era and Sonic Rush the start of the Modern era.
>>333581164
>Even Sonic Advance isn't good enough to bear that title, but it's infinitely better as a Sonic 4 than the official Sonic 4 is.
It's not good enough but it's better than the game that's actually called 4? Make up your mind.
What in your opinion would let Advance hold the title of the actual Sonic 4?
>>333581438
Let me put it this way. On a sliding scale of should and shouldn't be Sonic 4, Sonic Advance is much closer to the should end. If that makes sense.
Sonic Advance does a lot of things right. Core mechanics are mostly intact, characters play similar to their classic incarnations, additional character with unique abilities, fresh new stages and music that just about holds up to the classics.
However, a lot of the level design is a huge downgrade. The game is much shorter than S3&K, and has less content. Major example is that you only have Super Sonic, and only in an unlockable final level, not playable normally, and no super forms for others either for that matter. The game is overall a downgrade from S3&K, and Sonic 4 should be equal to it or more. It should also not be a handheld or mobile game, but a genuine console game with a proper budget.
>>333582032
>shorter than S3&K and wasn't on console
fair enough
I don't know where you're getting the budget thing from though.
>>333582032
Well S3&K are two games in one kinda unfair to compare that with length but I do agree about Super form being locked into one act or Knuckles of all characters not having access to the emeralds.
>>333582217
The official Sonic 4 obviously had chicken scratch for a budget. Sonic Advance probably didn't have an awful lot. The trilogy was obviously given a good budget with a great deal of care, especially Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
>>333582391
It was intended to be one game, and had to be split up due to hardware limitations. The combined game is the true Sonic 3.
>>333579809
This
>>333580023
2 is very different from 1. The first one played very much like the original Genesis Sonic games, whereas 2 has a very strong focus on going fast and keeping up that speed, so much so that even the boss battles took place while running. I personally can't get into 2 either, since it gets to the point where not memorizing a level leads to falling into enormous pits. Just not muh Sonic.
>>333579124
>Sonic Adventure
What?
These days, Sonic Adventure would be lower on the list.
I remember seeing a kid playing a Sonic game on his GBA once and I was blown away by how good it looked. I can't even find what game it was now, but I remember it having a beach level that looked like an actual picture.
>>333578390
Sonic Retreat was better
>>333580965
>Playing as Amy is a lot more fun than I thought it'd be
>mfw pausing the screen to look at her panties as a kid
Was to similar to 3K and therefore it sucked. To many stop and start moments, cramped camera/screen size. The advance sprites are the best in the series though, no doubt, and advance 2 and 3 are fantastic.
>>333578390
Last great Sonic game. Too bad the other Advance games ruined the formula.
>>333579915
You're thinking of Rush, Anon.
>>333585929
I'm inclined to agree, but Advance 2 introduced possibly the best addition to the franchise: The Mach State. Why it was never revisited I'll never understand.
>>333582931
This bollocks again. If Sonic 3 followed it's original plan it would be several zones shorter than the combined games. Several all new zones were created to justify the release of a seprate game.
Sonic 3 is a game by itself, Sonic & Knuckles is a game by itself. Sonic 3 and Knuckles is a bonus mode of S&K that requires two cartridges to play.
>>333586137
It introduced the best Sonic character
>>333579124
Hey man, I have very fond memories of Sonic Adventure and it goes on my lists of favorites. But it is no way 2nd best... try playing it today, it does not hold up well.
>>333584215
Me too nigga, me too.
>>333579124
>Sonic Shuffle
>good
>Mario Party
>bad
>>333586648
>play it today bro! its bad and doesnt hold up haha!
My most favorite of memes. I replay both sonic adventures every year and have as much fun as i did with them in 1999 and 2001. Appreciate the game for what it is, what it set out to do, the time of its release, and the technical limitations it went against rather than accepting some faggot on youtubes opinion like the word of god.
>>333587060
You. I like you.
>>333587060
What's your opinion on Sonic Adventure DX, specificallymission 53
>>333587540Noclip through the wall before getting on the snowboard and fall through the rings
>>333587540
I dont really dive into the side stuff, just the main storys and stages, that goes for both games. So no missions, no chao shit, no races, no boss rushes. But wasnt mission 53 that super hard level on ice cap with the rings? I think whoever made that mission had a bad day at work and took his anger out on kids and sonic fans. Fuck that mission
Advance was pretty alright but I prefer Advance 2GOTTTAGOFAST
I never really liked Advance 3.
>>333587739That's the only way I was able to complete it. Fuck this game.
>>333587814
>But wasnt mission 53 that super hard level on ice cap with the rings?
That's the one. I don't know if it's even possible to complete it traditionally
>no chao shit
But chao shit was the best shit
Sonic Advance had bad levels and bad bosses.
Sonic Advance 2 had bad levels and good bosses.
Sonic Advance 3 had good levels and good bosses.
>>333588038
Sonic Advance 3's level design was all over the place, Why do you think they went back to Advance 2's level designs with the Rush series.
>>333578390
Sonic Advance 1 - bad
Sonic Advance 2 - great
Sonic Advance 3 - mediocre
>>333587540
>53
I was stuck on that shit forever. All those attempts. Felt good finally getting it.I then played the fuck out of Tails Adventure.
>>333588000
Chao garden was the worst part of the game for me since it had no gameplay besides giving candy to a little retard that drowns itself frequently. If the mini games required more input i probably wouldve enjoyed it more. They have a very good daycare/raising type of feel though and i commend them for that, but the actual content of them is boring
Better than s3&k
the best sonic games are on gba
thats how strongly i feel about them
never been disappointed
>>333588038
Factually wrong
>>333588134
1 - good
2- good for different reasons
3 - mediocre
>>333588134
>>333589142
I liked 3's mechanic of giving you different abilities depending on the partner though, that was neat.
>>333578390
Terrible
I liked it more than CD. Advance 1-3, Pocket Adventure, Rush are all my favorite of Sonic games aside Sonic 2&3.
>>333587060
i'm inclined to agree. sonic adventure 1 is the only old 3d sonic game i can go back to and not want to throw up when i play it. the core gameplay is fun.
>>333589376
What about Rush Adventure?
I'M RUNNIN' THROUGH THIS WORLD
>>333591096
>drift speeding was removed in generations
This is why unleashed is the best 3D sonic. Has the funnest meta. That, and unleashed levels are way better than generations.
>>333591096
Good god that looks disorienting.
>>333591347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iZb82P3n8s
>>333591347
It takes a little getting used to but it feels incredible once you can pull it off. Most day stages have free 3D sections where youre free to do that. All it is drifting + manipulating the camera a bit. Drifting, sliding, annd quick stepping increase your speed in unleashed, combined with boost, makes for crazy speeds
>>333591096
RUNNING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF ROUND
>>333591481
Speed runs are the best.
>>333591612
Yeah it would definitely take time getting used to.
>>333591225
>Unleashed has the funnest meta
True, but it also put the Homing Attack button on Square instead of X. Why would you do that? Who thought that that was an okay thing to do?
Incidentally, how do you feel about the Generations Unleashed Project?
>>333578390
I only played this game on the N-Gage.
It's ok but fucking short as fuck.
>>333591058
Thanks a lot McDonalds.
>>333592291
Not as fun. Feels...slower for some reason. I prefer the lighting, aesthetics, and even frame rate of unleashed more.
>>333591225
this is like arguing which kind of pizza is better. moot argument
also ftr unleashed is more like a pizza delivered to you in slices once every week.
lol unleashed
>>333592584
>I prefer 30 FPS over 120 in a game about going fast
I actually agree with you in all other regards, but... What? Why would you ever prefer a lower frame rate in any video game, much less a Sonic the Hedgehog game?
I'm not trying to shit on you, I'm legitimately curious. Please explain.
>>333592772
>moot
who???
>>333592808
I know what you mean, but the feeling of the frame rate stuttering because of the speed, scenes, and graphics making the console go crazy, i love that stuff. Adabat on console feels more exciting than just watching it smoothly happen. Im probably literally the only person alive with this opinion and thats fine
>>333589767
I can see how some guys like it, I don't. It's like DS Colors/Generation level of mediocrity. Can't quite put my fingers on why I don't like it. Maybe it's because Rush gave me such a good impression, my head exploded when I saw Sonic crossed the screens for the first time.
I'm pretty sure the only people who like Rush, Advance and Adventure are nintendo fag babies who finally played their first sonic game. they're even in this thread right now,
>>333593136
And then we have this faggot
>>333592808
>120
Hullo, you can uncap that sucker? I'm sure mine only goes to 60fps, though I haven't played since release, is it an update or something?
I played Sonic adventure for the first time in years and i loved most of it except the mech levels, and that one rouge level.
>PSSSH I CAN GET IT DONE IN HALF OF THAT TIME
My friend is a huge fan of projared and now he hates SA2 because projared does.
>>333593431
I meant SA2 not SA, i think sa has aged pretty badly but it's not too bad.
>>333592808
Unleashed on pc would be goat, it would be much faster and it wouldn't have such a shitty framerate.
>>333593136
Ive played sonic since the day the first was released. Sonic advance 1 and 2 are easily in the same catagory of good as the originals. 3 has some really shitty level design though
>the last passable sonic game came out 5 years ago
>they've done jack so far for 25th anniversary
is sega pulling a capcom?
>>333593929
What a horrible night to be Sega. Make a Sonic game, then fans bitch that they're rotting the rest of their IPs. Make other games, then Sonic fans bitch at them.
best cover? best cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KXu9R092KI
>>333594000
>make shit sonic games
>all the sega fans are mad
they're such a victim
>>333578390
The true sequel to the Genesis trilogy. Fuck Sonic 4.
1>3>2
>>333594016
Eh, the woman's voice ruins it.
>>333592291
why mod generations when you can just Jtag your xbox and do this crazy bullshit (skip to 21:30 for the start of the fuckfest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl6ZnzUwjgc
>>333594064
Learn to read, homeboy.
>>333593372
If you're playing on PC with a good enough monitor I can't see why not. I personally can't hit 120, but I can get up to 75.
Also, playing on 3 monitors is quite the wild ride.
>>333579124
>Mario Party is bad
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
>Sonic Shuffle is good
Kill yourself anon
>>333594474
i did pham, did you?
>>333594808
You bitch about the possibility of Sega not doing shit for 25th anniversary. I point out that they have other games to make. You then say they made shit Sonic games. How did you make that conclusion without reading the post correctly?
>>333594068
Sonic 4 was better than those games you mongoloid.
>>333578390
Throughly mediocre like...almost every Sonic game really. The Sonic franchise is a testament to the power of marketing because the series has ranged from average at best to outright trash every step of the way. The music is pretty consistently decent though.
>>333595756
you state that they either please the sonic fanbase or please the rest of their fanbase
I state that they are currently doing neither
what is there to get?
>>333597683
That's not what you said at all. I guess you're just a retard, sorry about your illness.
>make shit sonic games
>all the sega fans are mad
they're such a victim
>>333578390
Pretty fun and really fast but I can't be dealing with that field of view.
If it was even just 50% larger it'd be a lot better.
>>333597875
okay, ima break it down so you can understand me:
>Make shit sonic games
what sega are currently doing
>all sega fans are mad
the current stance of sega fans
I am saying that this is the current state of affairs and that they are currently neither pleasing sonic fans, nor regular fans.
this is in contrast to your statement where you said they can only manage one or the other
the final line "they're such a victim" was a cynical comment about how we shouldn't feel sorry for sega as this situation is entirely of their own doing
you follow now anon?
>>333598361
You have a bit of jumpy logic, mate. Try to work on that, if you can.
>>333598737
I'll try and accommodate for the slower amongst us, as you asked so nicely
>>333591096
I don't know anything about the Sonic series, but it's my understanding that the series is about speed and platforming, and watching this video, it looks crazy insane, so how come people don't like this game again, ignoring the werewolf gameplay? Same question goes to Generations.
>>333593929
From my understand, Sonic Generations wasn't announced until around the end of April during the it's 20th anniversary.
>>333593929
Probably by E3.
>that moment you found out that using the spin move in the diamond stage would actually net you a shitload of rings if you did it in one of those portals
>>333586137
Nope.
http://xbox.gamespy.com/articles/654/654750p4.html
>... Sonic 3 is literally half a game. Sega management back then wanted the game out at a certain time and we only had half the stages done, so we had to put the leftovers into Sonic and Knuckles. So when you bought S&K and attached it to Sonic 3, you got the whole of what Sonic 3 was planned to have been.
Sonic 3 and Knuckles is just the complete version of Sonic 3.
>>333600205
A lot of reasons, the first I assume is people holding a grudge from the 90s due to mascot and console wars. You'd think it silly but try asking someone who seems to have a livid hate for Sonic why and you'll find most not only haven't played the game but don't really know what their argument for the games are outside of a dislike for Sonic or his fans.
Speaking of which the fans like the game are easy targets for ridicule, once they trip and fall once everyone and their mother gathers to get their cheap shot in.
But genuinely speaking there's a shit ton of hiccups on the way to the good parts for Sonic since Genesis. The internal issues of SEGA and Sonic Team created identity and development issues during the transition to 3D and even the retention of 2D gameplay resulting in very mixed experiences not just from game to game but sometimes in a single game itself due to the need to experiment or pad out concepts.
Generations was fine. Most arguments against it are from fans surprisingly and focus on a lack of faithfulness to the classic momentum physics, the lack of true separation between 2D and 3D Sonic's gameplay due to 3D Sonic often getting 2D sections and the usual complaint and concern of how the boost mechanic affects the core gameplay and level design.
Honestly having a complete lack of context is the best case scenario because as you can see now it's all very silly compared to just looking at it for what it is not the fanbase or the consensus or stuff like that which informs you of nothing.
>>333578390
Advance 3 was a ton of fun if you had 2 GBAs and 2 games. I loved the coop.
>>333606906
See
>>333587460
On another note, if you have the time, a decent PC and a few bucks to spare, >>333600205 I honestly do recommend Generations. Sure, it's got a lot of references to past games and some inside jokes will be lost on you, but to me it's the best way to experience 20 years of Sonic history.
After that. you're all caught up to the rest of the Sonic fanbase: we had Generations, it was great! Then we got Lost World which was an uninspired mess that took more from Mario than it did its own core values as a series.
Now we're all just waiting to see what the 25th Anniversary brings...
So who here completed every special stage in Sonic Advance 2 as Amy?
You don't unlock anything but it's still a fun challenge, with completing every special stage as Sonic being the second hardest challenge.
What the fuck happened to DIMPS between Advance 3 and Rushed?
>>333578390
I liked the series. My only gripe are the boss battles where you're constantly chasing. They just feel like shit to me.
Also the Knuckles boss was a nightmare for me to beat as a kid.
>>333592384
Pretty much all the 2D Sonic games can be short as fuck. They just have quite a bit more replayability compared to most of the 3D Sonic games.
