>that'll be $59.99 plus tip
why do console gamers just accept this? the same games on PC can be had for half that at launch (cdkeys, g2a, etc) if you even feel like paying for it all. also they look nicer and run better.
>>333562997
Do Americans actually tip retail workers who sell them games?
>>333563158
No, it's a meme
>>333563158
Why the fuck wouldn't you? They're providing a service for you.
>>333563158
Is tipping for food services really seen as optional in Europe?
>>333563158
No, OP is a sad cuck who pirates his games and doesn't understand what sales tax is.
>>333563158
It's just a shitty meme
Jew restaurant owners are allowed to pay servers less because they assume they will make a certain amount in tips. If they dont then its sad day for them.
>>333563317
It would be in Clapistan too if food service workers were paid what they're legally supposed to be paid.
>>333563383
actually if they don't then the restaurant has to pay the difference. but if that happens too many times for the owner's liking, you're probably getting canned.
>>333563502
I'm not that guy, but I'm pretty sure his last "they" and "them" was referring to the owner being sad, not the servers, for the reason you described.
>>333563317
>Is tipping for food services really seen as optional in Europe?
depends
in classy upscale restaurants, you usually tip
in fast food joints or diners you don't
but no matter where you are, you will NEVER hear a single word about servers blaming or disrespecting customers for not tipping. that just isn't a thing here at all and would be considered absurdly rude, probably get them fired on the spot.
I tipped the guy at my gamestop $10. He placed it in the bag just right
>>333562997
do pizza delivery guys in US really add "+ tip+ when they tell you the price?
>>333563158
She's asking for a fedora tip, not a monetary one.
>>333562997
>Tipping
>Not including tax
For what purpose familia?
>have to tip the mailman
>have to tip the waiter
>have to tip the doormen
>have to tip the parking valets
>have to tip the hair dresser
>have to tip the bellhops
>have to tip the retail workers
>have to tip the pizza delivery guy
>have to tip the taxi driver
>have to tip the barman/barmaid
>have to tip the barista
>have to tip the hotel maid
>have to tip the fast food workers
>have to tip the scales because Americans are fat as fuck
LAND OF THE FREE
>>333563158
>>333562997
New games are $64.xx in CA.
>>333563773
No.
>>333562997
But we don't you cuck. Bestbuy and Amazon make that $47.99
>>333563698
Americans don't tip at fast food places either, but diners and everything greater are fair game.
>>333563773
I have never heard of someone actually say that out loud, but a lot of delivery websites will say something like "The delivery fee is not a tip for the driver, please reward your driver with a tip for outstanding service." or something like that. If you paid via card, there's always a "tip" option underneath your total that you can put whatever you want.
Delivery tipping is retarded. At least with restaurants, the server is constantly checking on you, refreshing drinks, etc. But a driver literally stops by once. All they should need is the delivery fee, if they were actually paid. I never tip a delivery guy more than $3. Usually I just take the total, round up to the nearest dollar, and add $2.
>>333563816
under rated
>>333563317
Why is it specifically food service that Americans make a big deal about tipping?
>>333562997
Fag
>>333564032
>have to
Whats the matter? Cant stand up for yourself?
>>333563698
lmao you don't tip fast food workers here either
if you dine in, you tip for the service and cleaning the table after
retail workers aren't tipped either, but you should tip your hairdresser
>>333562997
have you ever had a friend who
>preferred fps on console
>plays league
>plays mobile games
>hates everything before the ps3 gen
>won't touch nintendo
>reads webcomics
they exist and they are among us. you might ask, "why?" but we'll never know.
>>333564236
they're bringing food to you, giving you free refills of drinks/salad/bread/etc and they clean the table of dishes when you leave
that's why you don't tip in fast food restaurants, they just hand you the food at the counter and you're expected to throw away your own garbage
>>333563317
Yeah. You usually leave there the few cents of the change, maybe a few € if the service was exceptionally good and the pricetag not inflated already.
What I don't get is, if tip is mandatory there, why don't include it on the bill directly? For customers to show off or something?
>forget to renew television license
>can't watch downton abbey
>>333564354
>That friend who says Turrent
>>333564236
Literally the only reason is because waiters can spit in your food if you don't tip. You're pretty much bribing them not to spit on your food.
What service does a waiter provide you that a retail clerk doesn't provide you.
>They ask you what game/meal you'd like
>You tell them
>They bring you the game/meal which was made by someone else
Yet somehow it's just a commonly accepted idea (excuse) that one is a service worthy of you parting with extra money and the other is just them doing their job normally.
>>333563158
in Ontario, Canada they usually ask for 13% "tip"
it's sales tax. it's not included in the advertised price. I know places like Britain have VAT where the price advertised is tax included but here in NA they advertise the price pre-tax
>>333564553
A friend of mine spit in a sandwich one time, turns out it was a off duty cop and he prosecuted him and my friend spent 6 months in jail. You don't mess with people's food.
>>333564451
I've been to many restaurants that automatically include the tip when you have an overly large party (8+) but otherwise, I guess it's so there's no maximum set? Tipping % varies by person, if it was automatically added on as 15%, some people who might have payed more might be swayed to stick with that number.
There are some places that calculate out how much the bill would be for various tipping percentages for you, which is nice. It doesn't add anything to your total automatically, but it basically says a 15% tip would total to XX.XX, 20% to YY.YY and so on.
tips belong in early winter
did the leap year fuck it all up?
>>333564612
Waiters are paid like shit and retail clerks are paid less like shit
>>333564553
What crazy restaurant do you eat at where you tip the waiter before receiving your food?
>>333564532
>MARE-IO
>>333562997
Why is her second button undone? Does she have no self-respect?
>>333564354
>>hates everything before the ps3 gen
>>won't touch nintendo
trophies, dude. Trophies have changed people
>>333562997
>buy $60 game
>pay another $5 in tax
>tip clerk another $12 like an adult
>report that $12 on my taxes
>tip the IRS another $3 for accepting my tax return
god it feels good to be american
>>333564852
>Does she have no self-respect?
she is working at gamestop
>>333564835
>Waiters are paid like shit
Yeah, so?
1) They chose to work for that amount of money.
2) If they don't want to do it they can quit.
3) It's not my responsibility to pay them, it's their boss's.
>>333564612
see >>333564435
also, retail workers are paid minimum wage, wait staff are paid below that
you save money not buying a 3000 dollar machine to play pixel indie games.
>>333564757
Man, sounds exhausting. If it was like that here I'd always eat at home.
>>333564612
If you went outside every once in a while you would know how hard waitress in is. You don't just bring people food.
>>333564848
It's not that you tip before eating, but if you don't tip and you come back another time, the waiters and waitress will spot you like a fatass finding the last piece of cake at a wedding.
Then you can expect to receive shitty service despite their salary not being your problem.
>>333564864
>you wanna fire up dynasty warriors 4 again or one of those wrestling games we used to play?
>maybe later i just wanna play a few league games first, hey where can i charge my iphone?
all my friends are dead
>>333564612
Exactly. This is why I always tip in Gamestop. It's just a few bucks, who cares?
I live in the UK, and from what I've heard, the way Americans pay for things is really weird. Apparently the VAT isn't labelled on shop products, and some workers, like delivery drivers and waiters, are paid less than minimum wage, and then get tips from the customers basically paying their wages for the employer.
>>333565008
also they get more shit than anyone in the restaurant even when they're not in the wrong
fuck that job, bartenders can at least tell people to fuck off
>>333562997
I don't pay tax on any of my games
>>333564236
Because became a thing way back when for restaurant owners to pay servers less because they're cheap bastards. They used tips as an excuse to pay them less then cost of living and the practice stuck making tipping a mandatory practice.
>>333564968
>wait staff are paid below that
afaik the employer is required by law to make up the difference if the tips aren't enough to meet minimum wage
>>333564942
I'm just saying that's the reason people tip waiters and not retail clerks. I never said it was smart to be a waiter and get less than minimum wage and rely on tips. Don't want to tip them, don't. They put a "mandatory tip" on the check and you don't want to pay it, don't.
>>333564835
>>333564968
Yeah no shit, but the only reason employers get away with paying them like shit is because this idea exists.
>>333565008
What waiting is as easy as going outside? What did I miss? You have to write down words? Sometimes people say mean things?
>>333565164
yeah and good luck keeping your job after that, having such a small amount of tips that you need to hit up your employer would imply you're a shitty server that isn't worth tipping.
>>333562997
>cdkeys, g2a
enjoy your revoked games and frozen accounts
>>333563249
And they're paid by their respective bosses
>>333563317
No.
15% built into price as service charge. Literally mandatory tip.
>>333562997
G2A/Sketchy/buying nvidea Keys are basically piracy.
Don't get me wrong, do what you want. But why to pay to pirate?
>>333565403
cdkeys is legit keys and there is nothing wrong with them
>>333565098
Yep, it's pretty fucky but if you've lived with it for any time at all you can tell what something is gonna cost without even thinking about it.
And employers are forced to pay their employers what they would have made if they were working minimum wage if they didn't make enough from tips.
But yeah, 'Merica is pretty weird when it comes to stuff that shouldn't be this retarded.
>>333565275
good luck trying to change the culture, then
and no, refusing to tip is not the answer. If you're comfortable with not tipping, let them know you won't be tipping when you walk in :^)
>>333565098
>the tax isn't labelled on shop products
What the actual fuck? Why not? To make products look cheaper than they are?
tipping is such a fucking scam. Although it's worth noting that in america, if a tipped worker is making less than minimum wage, their boss has to make up the difference if their tips don't add up with their salary to equal minimum wage. A lot of career servers get really shitty attitudes about it too, it's no longer "working better to get a better tip" it's "if you don't give me 20% you don't even deserve my bare minimum effort." The industry tries to pitch it as the server being a "salesman" but one look into it reveals that as utter bullshit, if they were salesmen they would receive a commission on all the food they sell, but nooooooooo that would bakrupt the restaurant. Well if a restaurant can't operate without paying their staff a full wage then it shouldn't fucking be open.
>>333565474
>>333565403
Can confirm, have used CDkeys with no problems. Frozen account/revoked game is a boogeyman lie.
>G2A/Sketchy/buying nvidea Keys are basically piracy.
>buying a game is basically piracy
Nigga you dumb as shit.
>>333565525
in the US, the tax is assumed because its different in every state
in Massacheusets its 7% in NY its 8%
>>333565474
>legit
lmao
>>333563317
Tipping is optional everywhere except the USA
in some places it's seen as offensive.
>>333565517
>My employer hates me so I'll take out my frustration on your food :^)
kek
>>333565576
In Ohio it's 0%. No sales tax.
In fact if you go to I think Seattle and show an Ohio ID you can skip paying sales tax.
>>333565474
>>333565567
here come the website owners
>>333565576
Not even different in each state. Sometimes you get cities that have different sales tax.
>>333564236
Because for years, restaurants in the States have gotten away with a system wherein they pay their servers a wage below the federally lawful minimum, under the justification that one makes tips that make up the difference.
However, thanks to the fact that this is ingrained in American culture now, if you're a decent server and don't get a bunch of asshole tables, you can make decent money (for the job type)
Tipping is typically only at non-fast-food restaurants and for food delivery drivers if they were timely or drove in dangerous/highly unfavorable conditions to get you your food. Most other workers will look at you like you're crazy if you try to tip them.
I've heard horror stories of servers taking care of a huge, needy, messy party of church goers, only to receive religious pamphlets as a tip.
>>333564553
This is bullshit because you tip after eating. You get spit in your food if you're a total cunt or if you're a regular customer who always shafts your servers. In either case, you still need a server angry and ballsy enough to mess with your food and you totally have it voming to you if you're dumb enough to "shit where you eat."
>>333565606
Tipping is optional in the USA too, it's just offensive to not tip.
>>333565593
>real keys generated by the publisher/developer
>CDkeys acquired them legally, sells them to you legally
>HURR ITS NOT LEGIT BECAUSE I HERD SOME RETARDED ANECDOTE ON REBBIT
>go to FUCKING GAMESTOP yesterday on my break
>they have a game I was slightly interested in new for $15, make more than that in 30 min, fuck it lets try it
>ask to buy it, they pull out the case, turn around to get the disk from a paper sleeve, and pop it into the case
Niggas said it was new. I asked for a new one, they said it is new. Didnt look very new to me.
>>333564612
Restaurant business and the whole tipping scene is shady as fuck and the waiters are in on it.
If I'm getting a brand new game I will pre order it for that 20% off and free shipping so I don't have to tip anyone and my game doesn't come to 59.99
>>333562997
This mindset is what motivated the industry to start selling DLC at launch, and other poor practices. That's why new games are being released with half it's content, and then they nickel and dime you for the remainder.
>>333565660
big whoop, they get the money out of you somehow.
Texas has no income tax, but guess what, their property taxes are insane.
>>333565731
*coming to you
Though you may have it "voming" to you if a server REALLY fucks with your food I guess.
>>333562997
I game mostly on console now a days. If you wait a month or two most games can be had for 20-30
>>333562997
If everyone did that I really don't think the gaming industry would survive well.
>>333565768
A lot of places have mandatory gratuity so as to stop people from not tipping, so i guess you're half right
>>333565992
people would just buy online only to avoid tax and "tipping" which they already do
>>333563158
>>333565409
Stop being stupid.
>>333565839
I love when you get a few posters who work in a high class reasturant or something and they love it because they get shit loads in tips.
Imagine if the jews who successfully pitched tipping did the same with slavery, we'd have the house slaves in here saying "Nah it's all good I only have to clean the house and sometimes I get a piece of chicken on Fridays or I get to not sleep on the ground."
>>333565774
no.
a place like greenmangaming sells official keys that they get directly from the publisher
your seedy grey market keysellers don't, and they can't be trusted
>>333566009
I've never actually seen places like that, so I assumed they weren't that common.
But to be fair, the only state I've been too outside of the state I'm from is Nevada, so I haven't really been to a whole lot of places.
>no more disks
>no distribution costs
>no manuals
>no boxes
>no extras
and price for games still increases. this is why I pirate
>>333566105
>seedy grey market keysellers
>its a greymarket
>I have no proof, just dumb anecdotes
>its not trust worthly
>Despite tens of thousands of successful transactions, satisfied customers and shit
>>333566105
CDkeys is exactly as legit as GMG. They buy from the same sources.
See: CDPR sperging out on GMG last year.
i just found out today im supposed to tip hair dressers
am i supposed to tip anyone that talks to me
I think tipping is fucking stupid, but the people who pull shit like this are the worst kind of asshole.
>>333566350
jesus shit like this is cringy and there is no reason for it
>>333566310
Yeah.That'll be $1, send it to my paypal.
>>333563158
We tip the government with sales tax
>>333566176
I live in Cali and really the only time mandatory tip comes up is when you're in a large party. Usually groups of at least 6 or 7 is what counts as a large party the min changing based on what restaurant you're at.
>>333565567
I buyed Watch_Dogs from G2A for 3 dollarus and my account is still working
>>333566350
I agree.
I always say
"If you can afford to run a restaurant, you can afford to pay your workers."
>>333563249
Someone post the copypasta about that british guy tipping everyone he meets in america
>>333566454
>We tip the government with sales tax
I wish.
>Pay what you want in tax
>If you don't pay at all they just cry and make advertising campaigns to say what a meanie you are
>>333566009
>>333566176
I've only ever seen it if you're in a party of (insert number between 5 and 10) or larger.
Otherwise it's completely up to you to tip.
>>333566253
>siding with CDPR on that
despite being a partner with gmg, they refused to provide keys to gmg because they wanted to promote their gog platform.
gmg has a business to run, and if they can't provide TW3 keys, their customers will look elsewhere. gmg can't afford to lose clients like that, so they bought up as many official keys as they could and sold them cheaper than anywhere else(and gmg ate up the loss) so that they wouldn't lose clients.
GMG is official and entirely trustworthy, and were partnered with CDPR before the TW3 shit happened. CDPR were the ones playing unfair.
>its offensive not to tip over here
why?
>>333564236
Free refills.
>>333566895
Some people are literally brainwashed by jews
Not even /pol/ing.
>>333565567
>publisher/dev Gets no money. Often stolen keys, purchased in russia, or free from promotionional deals.
Yeah man so glad im paying $20 for this. Cause pirating it would be imorrale.
Faggot ill sell you a crack for $10 if you feel like you are "legit" from it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vBTfj2lN6sQ
Is this legit?
http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/dark-souls-iii-3-pc-cd-key-steam?mw_aref=156f6a04123d0594e4941f73584d3924
>>333567018
Do you get this up in arms about second hand games sold at retailers?
>>333564553
I'm a waiter and even if you're a fucking pig, why on heart would i spit in your dish ? Personal satisfaction ? You won't know about it and if you know i'm fucked, it's stupid.
>>333567032
>8 minutes of an annoying Limey blabbering on in the least funny way possible
Fucking awful
>>333567192
No.
I don't get up in arms about piracy either.
Though i might Admittedly find it different if those used games "fell off a truck"
>>333567108
Yeah, but you're a legit sucker for not getting it when it was $27 on CDkeys a few weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_vivC7c_1k
epic meme
