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What went so horribly wrong?
Tit witch isn't the main character
20 hours
One planet
>JRPG series with fairly average entries and an entry that is complete dogshit (SO4 is easily one of the worst games I played last gen)
>people are surprised when the latest game isn't very good
tales of zestiria ended up being better
No one learned their lesson after SO4
>>333555075
Really short, the fact it's pre-order price on amazon is only £33 is telling. And granny panties.
>>333555075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meSl0Yha-qM
Looks pretty cool to me desu
I almost imported this, but then the panties got censored.
Good thing I hesitated because it seems I missed nothing
>>333555075
fuckk don't tell me its shit. I was looking forward to it redeeming the series after 4.
>>333555869
>Game is called star ocean
>Only one planet
what's the point?
>>333556790
>20 Hours for a jrpg
>One planet
>Camera sucks
>Seems a rushed game
>Battle system focused on spamming the same skill
>Lack of skills and reused animation from SO4
You better look forward for other rpg like Berseria, Persona 5 or Final Fantasy XV
2 0 H O U R S
>http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B015E13132/4k6l0g8-22/ref=nosim/
>shit's already 43% off on Amazon
Sonybois were so anxious for this game, making pictures with box on it and everything.
Another one bites the dust.
>>333557292
Sonycucks hype any shit as long as it's exclusive
>>333555075
Censorship. All the other planets got censored because they were too lewd.
>>333557196
>Berseria
Just stop trying.
Reminder it sold worse than SO4 on the fucking Xbox 360 in Japan only.
It was a game by Tri-Ace
According to nips the combat is shit.
>>333557196
>Berseria
nice try Bamco.
>>333557292
So many 1 stars, damn.
Anyone knows if the OST is up for download somewhere? I'm a sucker for Sakuraba.
>>333557440
well with the shitty camera and affect covering the entire screen its obviously going to be shit
I also hates how they animate some of the attack. The game really felt like a low budget one despite being advertised like a big project games
>>333557427
So much for the Sony monopoly huh.
CoD/Fifa box through and through.
>>333557593
Isn't most of the tracks taken from SO3?
>>333555075
Nothing, its a masterpiece.
well, fuck.
>>333556128
MAMA-SHAMA
Average game from an average series hyped up by weebs because of lewd girls.
Weebs literally eat up any shit game as long as it has cute anime girls, just look at the amount of vita shilling on this board.
The golden age of jrpg's is long gone and and will probably never make a comeback.
>>333557593
It sounds like derivative garbage, you have his entire portfolio to listen to its all the same thing.
Apart from this and FFXV, what big JRPG is coming out this year?
SO5 was the one I was looking forward to the most but now it looks like yet another disappointment. FFXV is starting to look like a bloated mess too.
>>333557732
He's been reusing the same motifs since the first game.
>>333557440
I'm looking at high-level combat videos right now and people are still using the same skills I've seen from playthroughs that were still starting out. Disappointing.
>>333557634
Don't expect much from SE-funded JRPGs until FFXV is out of the way.
>current year
>still believing in tri-ace
You people must be demented or something.
Why did Suikoden have to die while this shit stayed alive?
Actually maybe its a good thing, Suikoden might have deteriorated the same way.
>>333558201
>might have
I guess you missed Suikoden 3, 4 and 5.
>>333558387
3 and 5 were good. 5's major drawback wasn't pandering to the wrong audience, it was the horrible load times and PSX-tier graphics.
>No new content, literally just a mash up of the previous two games
>Less characters than either of the previous two games, characters have less skills than characters from previous games
>Literally 4 fucking physical characters, other two are support
>Short story, no rewarding exploration, retarded AI, boring bosses
>Little to no post game content
Maybe we'll get a director's cut that doesn't suck.
>>333558201
>that edit
hahahahahahaha
>>333558487
that's what happened with SO3 remember
I missroger
>>333558064
Purseowner 5 can either be really great or a massive blunder. Berseria I dont have much confidence in, but I'm keeping an eye on it. Other than that, jrpg are dying. The AAA devs are all dumbasses and the AA field has like two flavors; either neptune or some sort of lame drpg.
>>333557440
Bosses have super armor while normal enemies are too easy, turning fights into spamming your favorite skill as a ranged character.
>>333558457
3 was garbo though. Not as bad as 4 but still hot shit.
5 was the least worse in terms of Suikoden-ish game but they put way too little effort on it. The game ended up an outdated low budget fan bait so typical of modern Konami. I'm glad they're finished with Suikoden.
whatever, I preordered the CE for this game anyway
>>333558782
3 was perfectly fine. It just wasn't quite as good as 2. Splitting the game into 3 scenarios was a mistake.
>>333558064
The only series left I have faith in are SRW and DQ
>>333558796
Just pre-ordered my CE. Its worth it just for the potential resale value being a limited run and all.
>>333558064
Berseria, Persona, and Pokemon. Atelier and Etrian Odyssey if you include more niche releases.
Japan can't survive in the current industry.
>>333558796
Squenix always over prices their CEs. Normally I would pass on theirs but since it's SO I make an exception.
>>333559013
Still on the fence but probably buy it anyway
>>333559013
>Squenix always over prices their CEs.
>270 fucking dollars for FFXV's
It's not that good.
Well, I have my Japanese Ultimate SO5 PS3 version on order and just pre-ordered the English Collector's SO5 PS4 version.
Guess I have shown my support for tri-Ace so we better get Valkyrie Profile 3!!!
>>333558662
Hey, we got nier automata at least. That game's pretty much guaranteed to be good due to that literal dream team working on it.
>>333557426
>>333557448
I'm looking forward to Berseria. Hoping it's not dogshit like Zesty. I mean, every face button is Attack. That alone sounds rad as fuck.
>>333559194
I would buy a new console for another good Valkyrie Profile, but wouldn't they just fuck it up even worse than the last one?
>>333558857
Not only the story dragged on for too long but it also didn't go anywhere. The combat was also pretty shallow. On the positive side it had a shitload of actual playable characters instead of just a bunch of NPCs and you ended up playing with most of them.
I'd never replay it in my life though. That shit must have taken me 100 hours or something to complete. All I remember was walking on grass fields with the boring normal kid over and over again.
>>333559178
That FF15 UCE isn't really a ripoff. Here is a comparison of what the contents most likely cost to make:
game: $60, obviously
artbook $30 (possibly more, considering it is hardcover and almost 200 pages.)
figure: $130, just like the others
soundtrack: $15
artcards: $5 (assuming a dollar each)
anime: $10 (considering they had to provide discs and author them)
movie: $20 (like most other movies)
Add these together and you get $270 and it is exclusive to their own online store, so the art cards must be included with the price. Then there is also the collector's box, which would probably be about $5-10 itself and the DLC, if it was released later as paid DLC for around $5-10 if not more, which would put it around $280, all for $270 plus shipping.. They would technically already be producing these UCEs at a loss.
As for this game's CE:
game: $60
artbook: $15
soundtrack: $10
art cards: $8
That is a total of $93, so it is technically a little over-priced. You can also try factoring in the DLC, if it was released later as paid DLC for a minimum of $11 and the Collector's box at $5-10 for a total of #109, the current cost of the CE.
In the end, the artbook's can also still be around $5 more each, also, depending on the quality.
Is 20 hours really bad if the game is good?
>>333559353
>not remembering the incredibly dangerous final boss
>not remembering the extra dungeon and the fight with Valkyrie
ye faithless
Got it. Thank god. I hope they release a sweet guide too
I should make a rule to never buy a game that /v/ makes "Buy (girl character)'s game" threads about
>>333559290
Love this Zesty is dogshit meme
>>333559465
Yeah, if it's twice the quality and half the length of SO3 I will be ecstatic. Plenty of people pay full price for "45 minute" STGs as well.
Seems it isn't all that good, but I still intend to play it myself and find out.
Preodered the CE :D
I have the japanese version too, but my Japanese skills aren't that good to understand every single thing but enjoying it so far!! About 10 hours in now and not even 1/4 through. There're so many things to explore and I'm loving the PA's
>>333559465
A 20 hour main story being good or bad is subjective, the entire game post game content included taking less than 40 hours with next to no replay value is objectively bad.
It sold 113,022 in its first week, that's pretty good, and last i seen it was number 2 in the charts behind Yo-kai Watch: Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Theirs alot more to come like its only its first week, theirs still NA and Europe /rest of the world and they may even port it to PC/Steam ya never know.
It would be hard to see the series dying with this, those are not the best figures so far (taking previous games into account) but their far from a major failure, so i'll be quietly confident of more Star Ocean in the future and maybe even a new Valkyrie Profile. hopefully Tri-Ace can get a bigger budget for the next game and blow us away with something bigger in scope.
>>333559248
>guaranteed to be good
With the kind of money SE is budgeting on anything not called Final Fantasy lately I wouldn't be so sure.
Platinum makes good games, but they still need resources to work with.
>>333559852
Usually the most important time is the first week. After that the sales generally decline 90%, especially in japan
It won't go over 200k by the look of it. Its all up to baka gaijin now
You can't skip dialoque or even scenes in this game.
In fact lose to a boss and you will watch the scene all over again.
Yo, DA:i is 20hours long with 100hours fecthquests.
FF13:LR was 15hours long with 100hours grinding and fectquests.
Since when is the sandbox model a good example for RPGs?
>>333560094
>2016
>can't skip cutscene
Fucking why
As someone who played star ocean 5, its a pretty dman solid rpg if you like jrpgs, it feels like a ps2 rpg tone wise and has a nice sense of adventure, people can bitch about the one planet thing but they expand upon its world just fine and the sci fi interaction with the fantasy world provides a nice dynamic. Combat is fine with only slight camera issues no where near as bad as they said it was.
overall id give it a high 7/10 game, good for jrpg fans and probably the 2nd best game in the series, star ocean finally has 2 good games.
How is Star Ocean 3?
>>333560050
>It won't go over 200k by the look of it. Its all up to baka gaijin now
yes it will, more people own a ps3 and the ps3 version has yet to release.
>>333559903
>but they still need resources to work with.
MGR was pretty alright. And they only had more or less a very short time to make it. From scratch no less.
>>333559730
I suppose if you look at it that way but that seems like a very rudimentary way to judge a game and is ignoring a lot of things.
>>333559621
But it is.
While the characters are somewhat enjoyable, everyone except for Sorey and Alisha are difficult to play as, and offer no good reasons to do so either. Rose especially. It seems like no work was done to make her moves useful or impactful. Everyone else just has a huge delay on their basic attacks which makes them really technical, but still kinda fun.
The game is balanced around abusing a mode where you get like three combos and four spells, and the only good one is Water Armatus, because it can actually heal. Oh yeah. You can't heal if you're afflicted by status. Only the corresponding elemental can remove the affliction, and the element->status->stat correlation are all loose and boring memory work.
Enemies literally ignore their weaknesses if they're mid-attack. Even if you counter their Martial arte with your Hidden arte, they do not get stunned because it doesn't count as a weak hit if they're attacking. Even if you counter their Hidden arte with your Seraphic, they will refuse to flinch and Martial your ass out of your spell, even after you've cast it, cancelling the fucking projectiles for God knows why.
The difficulty settings aren't difficulty settings. They change EXP and drop rates for no fucking reason on TOP of adding health and damage to everything, meaning if you deviate from Normal, your levels will be imbalanced for the rest of the game. The crafting and skill system is obtuse for no good reason. It forces you to grind to take advantage of. It's basically faster and more satisfying to just grind levels, but doing that requires you to tone down the battle difficulty, making it less satisfying to play in general. Fuck the systems. I'm powering through with my skill alone.
Oh wait. My allies repeatedly armatize and de-armatize if I don't tell them not to use Burst, putting them at a huge disadvantage if I do because they will die, and ME at a huge disadvantage if I don't because they won't have any fucking blast gauge.
>game is shit
>no one bought it
>no titwitch porn
>>333557196
>Berseria, Persona 5 or Final Fantasy XV
How about I just don't play any of these shitty jrpgs?
>>333557430
But Resonance of Fate and Radiata Stories were great.
>>333560645
>Resonance of Fate
Into the trash
>>333560323
I only say it in relation to the previous two games. There was good reason to replay Star Ocean 3 since you can only have 2 of the 4 optional characters in your party per playthrough.
Star Ocean 3's main story was also much longer than 20 hours long, had a ton of shit to do, including the ridiculously in depth item creation system, and also had 3 great post game dungeons with crazy boss fights.
Star Ocean 5 has little to offer comparatively, streamlining everything to the point where everything becomes trivial.
Star Ocean 1 and 3 were mediocre, 2 was pretty good, Blue Sphere is fun but JP Onry, and 4 was a train wreck.
Why would you expect 5 to be anything but Okay?
>>333560592
How about you accept that you're a based Anon who'll never be a cuck like Anthony Burch?
>>333560708
>It's too haaaaaard! :^(
The only opinion that belongs in the trash is yours.
>>333560898
It's hard not being like Anthony Burch anon, but someone's got to do it.
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>>333560858
>Why would you expect 5 to be anything but 'kay?
>>333555075
I don't care about this game, haven't enjoyed SO since 3 on the ps2.
I'm just worried if its failure or reception would hinder any plans for a future Valkyrie Profile being greenlit.
>Valkryie Profile fags still think they will get a new one
HAHAHAHAHA
Enjoy the despair with Suikodenfags
20 hours legit?
interest withdrawn
>>333560795
That honestly doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. Some games are just built for a single play, and that's fine if the game is actually good.Probably should have been $40, though.
>>333560375
The whole game has a problem with variety of attack. The AC limit is easily circumvented later in the game, but you can't make characters have more skills.
Each seraph only has two or three original spells. Y'know, like other Tales games. Remember Negative Gate? Prism Sword? Divine Saber? Ground Dasher? Riot Horn? the GOOD Splash? Spread, even? Nah, you get fucking two line projectile spells, MAYBE two AoE spells, and some shitty status stealing spells.
In their attempt to diversify the characters, they only compartmentalized them into uselessly situational fucks. I know, you're supposed to swap between them based on the situation, but that isn't an excuse to fucking halfass your six playable characters, and kick one perfectly good moveset entirely out of the party.
The graphics are utter shite. I mean, I love the backgrounds, the world modeling, but when you compare ANYTHING, the shaders, the special effects, the spells, anything short of the character models, to even Vesperia, you see how half-assed the game is. Vesperia DESTROYS this game in graphics, gameplay, and story. Even Xillia 2 does a better job in all these aspects, and it reused so much shit from its predecessor. This is a fucking PS4 game??
30 FPS lock. I modded to get around it, but holy shit the game is unplayable at 30 FPS. I have to squint to notice effects like the blocking buffs triggering at 30, and they still look bad and un-conveying at 60, but at least they're perceptible.
Zestiria is the worst Tales game since Tempest, and I've heard that's not even that bad.
>>333561221
Can you really call it despair? Seeing how SO5 turned out, it's more of a blessing that Valkyrie Profile and Suikoden are dead.
>>333561221
I've long accepted that.
So where's the Persona 5 news?
This game turned out to be disappointing.
So far looking forward to XV, Persona 5 and Dragon Quest XI when it comes to jrpgs that are coming out.
>>333560953
>RoF
>Hard
I don't get this meme. The entire game is a one-trick pony. There's only a handful of difficult bosses once you have a grasp on the fucking skeleton of a combat system they have.
Maybe it's more stimulating on higher difficulties but I'm not fucking replaying the game three times just to noticeably increase the enemies' state.
>No Arena
>No VS mode
>Short main game
>No puzzle
>No minigames
>Few post-game stuff
It's actually a decent SO game but people felt betrayed from the way they advertise this game as homage to SO3.
>>333555869
Every fucking star ocean. You think they would have learned.
>>333562332
And the one game that is an actual star ocean is also the shittiest game in the series
>>333562332
>SO1 moved you to a new planet
>SO2 had a new area halfway though the game
>SO3 had new areas as well
>SO4 actually had planet travel
Naw man.
>>333558064
>He's been reusing the same motifs since the first game.
It's not motifs, it's literally SO3 versions of the songs in every game and otherwise just general SO3 music. Straight out of 3
It's a shame. I actually loved 3 even though most people say its bad. I had high hopes for 5.
>you will never get a jrpg with true space travel
Fucking why
Imagine no man's sky with jrpg gameplay
>>333562785
The closest we have is Infinite Space, but that's more of a sim
>>333559349
>but wouldn't they just fuck it up even worse than the last one?
2 was great.
cotp was ok for a handheld game, had a lot of content to it.
The problem is that there's no story left without either making up new shit or ruining everything. And current tri-Ace probably isn't too good on making up shit.
>>333559730
>the entire game post game content included taking less than 40 hours with next to no replay value is objectively bad.
You gonna say 2 is bad?
>>333555869
What? are you serious?
>Resonanse of Fate sold better on its first week than this shit streaming pile of horseshit
SO is fucking dead. RoF was a new IP and it did better.
>>333562924
I liked 2 a lot more than the first game, but cotp was a mess although the enemies that came for you if you refused to sin were badass.
I 100% that game but there were barely any valkyries, rather disappoint
>people here still spouting 20 hours
That was from some gamefaqs retard who rushed through the game just to brag that he beat it first.
Someone here posted their screen and they were 20 hours in and not finished yet.
thats too bad i was thinking of getting this
>>333563252
Valkyries were in the seraphic gate. You did do the Seraphic gate right? It's like half the game in cotp.
They should have made it look like the tech demo from a few years ago. Not this awful ugly doll shit.
>>333563449
they don't have the budget for that
>>333563449
>SO
>ever not ugly doll shit
Have you seen the past few SO ? LEL
>>333561235
25-30 hours, also the length is fine alot of really excellent rpgs have been shorter than that, grandia 2 and both chrono games in particular, hell star ocean 1 and 2 are shorter and those are the only 2 good star ocean games before 5
>>333563359
I watched a streamer on twitch defeat 6-wing Ethereal Queen in less than 50 hours, with a 95% completion rate according to the in game log. He also said the main story took around 20 hours.
>>333561235
Every SO is sub 20 hours when you rush the story anon.
>>333562908
rogue galaxy
>>333555075
The lack of female noses.
>>333558857
>3 was perfectly fine
Please. It was trash. The only redeeming thing was music and the combat, which still got kind of old after a while.
>shit dungeons
>shit bosses
>shit minigames like the turtle bullshit
>backtracking constantly
>ameena
>sophia
>peppitta
>more plotholes than the average JRPG
>>333564001
That too, but I remember the combat being ass
I'd rather have 20 hours of decent pacing than 40 hours of Rogue Galaxy which was filled with 20 hours of boring filler shit.
That said, I have no idea if those 20 hours in Star Ocean are good or not.
>>333555869
>20 hours
that's (usually) a good thing
>one planet
that's not
I thought it was supposed to be pretty good?
>>333564109
It was rather subpar.
I haven't played a JRPG in ages becauseI fell in love with CRPGs and went into PC gaming.
I was going to try and get back into them with this oneplus dat witch.
How long are SO games normally that every list of grievances is the short story?
>>333564287
>>333564109
>>333564072
You missed the part where they were talking about Suikoden. Either way.
>shit dungeons
Better than anything in 4 or 5
>shit bosses
Crossell, Luther, Gabriel, Lenneth, Freya, fuck you better than anything in 4 or 5
>shit minigames like the turtle bullshit
You only had to deal with it once if you didn't feel like collecting all the crap in the tunnels
>backtracking constantly
what is an RPG
>ameena
Can't argue with that
>sophia
Not as bad as Ameena ironically enough
>peppitta
Optional
>more plotholes than the average JRPG
Not really, it's pretty well put together.
Only real issue I had with Star Ocean 3 was it's awful presentation.
Why is Anna so cute?
>>333564615
Sorry dude. But it was I don't recall the combat being anything special.
They should just make space travel like Mass Effect 2
>>333557634
Ironically, some of the cutscenes and trailers of the areas looked really good.
I didn't realize the gameplay would be that bad. I played both the PSP remakes
and sunk many hours into them. That's kinda crazy.
>>333558169
You mean just like everyone did in SO3 by using Sidekick and Blade of Fury to amp the cancel bonus to 300%? oh my, what a tragedy.
So 20 hour story? Is that just doing the story and no side things what so eve or side stuff includedr?
How does the combat compare to 3?
Cause all i remember in 3 is spamming sidekick and air raid anyway. So as long as the story is on par with 3 i will probably enjoy this.
>20 hours
>1 planet
Next thing you guys are going to tell me is that this game doesn't have the Maze of Tribulations and I can't fight Gabriel Celesta as well.
>>333565617
Side stuff included
Fidel = Fayt + Edge
Victor = Albel + Nel
Anne = Maria + Mirage
Emerson = Maria + Reimi
So you get to spam side kick and air raid all you want in this one too.
Is it actually bad or is it just Japanese Otaku being really angry again? Seriously those guys are just something else on the fan boy autism scale.
>>333562536
3 was basically Elicoor
>>333565976
It's not bad by SO standards, just disappointing. Don't expect a title on the same scale as 3 here.
>>333565976
>Game advertised as SO3 homage
>End up being a mediocre attempt at reviving the series
>People obviously get upset
Nah, anon, they are just overreacting
>>333565979
Still had the satellite place and the 4D town.
Devs were so afraid of SO4 that they took it too safe
Its like Suikoden 5 except its disappointing
Star ocean 2 can be beaten in 25 hours, it's not a long game at all. Maybe 3 and 4 were longer but ask yourself, did you really WANT them to go on that long?
I'll be satisfied with 20 hours.
>>333563449
Mass Effect x Star Ocean crossover when?
Tfw Mass Effect is more Star Ocean than Star Ocean
>>333566490
grandia was 20 hours and it felt long
i think its exaggeration from people who never sat and played a ps1 rpg before
>>333566490
Considering most modern games are 15 hours long 20 is okay
>>333557292
>2.5 average for DOAX3
>2.5 average for SO5
>shallow sellout pandering games BTFO by their own motherland
I have new found respect for Japan.
>>333568754
>they rate Nep highly
??
>>333568754
Japs only Amazon bomb games when they have fanboy rages.
See >>333568838
They still have shit taste.
>>333568838
You underestimate the transcending power of loli's.
>>333568971
Not from what I'm reading. These are actually walls of legitimate complaints not just "muh panties-desu".
>>333555869
I'll admit that one-plant does disappoint me. but not the 20 hours.
>>333568754
2ch literally always rates everything a 1 on amazon.jp no matter how much they like or dislike a game. Its what they do.
>>333557196
>Berseria
waaw
I beat it in around 30 hours. People aren't really lying about it's problems but it's still enjoyable nonetheless.
>>333570035
In the Maze of Tribulations now.
I told you all this series hasn't been any good since the PS1.
>>333555869
Even more evident you fags really haven't played any of the other games.
>>333555075
>all this 20 hour meme shitposting
the main story is ~25 hours and the endgame shit is like 80 hours and platinum is around 800hours
there is a fuck load of content and most of you faggots haven't even touched the game
>>333570630
>platinum is around 800hours
>>333570393
90% of shitposting in star ocean threads is people who've either never played any or only played 3. Has been for the past decade
>>333570705
yes it is
looks like you've never played an SO game before
>>333570741
>only played 3
That's rare.
>>333570741
I've played 1 hours of SO3
Its shit
>>333570035
>>333570151
What does the Loli do aside from running around and occasionally screams?
>>333570901
>>333571045
There's a lot of 3 only shitters out there and they're very vocal.
>>333571104
She's a major part of the plot and becomes the main reason why you're even on your journey.
>>333558201
I miss Arc the Lad.
1,2 and 3 were good.
The one on the PS2 was shit though.
>>333570901
3 was my first real SO. Wasn't until after that I played Second Story. And then Last Hope was such immense amounts of ass that for the first time in a long while, I had legit buyers remorse.
>Sophia's pants
MY DICK
>>333571282
I figured as much. I just wanted to know what else does she do during battle.
>>333571104
PINK SCHOOL BAG
HNGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>333571509
>The one on the PS2
There's 2
the 2nd on ps2 is even worse and not even a srpg
>>333571187
That's unfortunate.
>>333571656
3 was also my first SO didn't play 2 until later and then 1. I bought SO4 on release and regretted it so much.
>>333571509
wait, 3 was good?
heard it was terrible.
loved the battle system from 2 though.
>>333571952
>>333561492
>Vesperia
>good graphics
Just popping in to let you know this is still funny.
>>333559194
>>333559349
Valkyrie profile 2 was pretty gud.
It showed as a prequel then midway went bananas changing the past and creating a TOTALLY new future.
I sure want VP3 but to risk a fuck up in my norse lore?
Star Ocean is pretty bland, notning much memorable.
>>333572137
Did they retcon the shitty mmo plotpoint?
>>333571725
>Albel's pants
MY DICK
>>333572342
>>333572417
Why would they need to? Did you not understand the ending?
>>333555075
From what I've seen from Amazon reviews:
>All recycled enemies from previous games
>Combat system is still simplistic and easy
>Barely even 25 hours of content
>Camera makes Zestiria look good
>Tons of reused assets from SO4
>Despite 4-6 party members in battles, actually less characters than SO4 and SO3
>No post-game
>Animations are top notch, but character models are shit
Basically, it was an average-mediocre game hyped up on MUH LEWD and MUH ANTI-CENSORSHIP faggots.
>>333572549
Your implying I didn't drop the game after said twist happened.
>>333572271
>vp2 was pretty good
>>333572620
>All recycled enemies from previous games
Wrong
>Combat system is still simplistic and easy
Only if you are bad and spam the same things over and over
>Barely even 25 hours of content
This isnt a negative
>Camera makes Zestiria look good
Camera isnt great
>Tons of reused assets from SO4
Not true
>Despite 4-6 party members in battles, actually less characters than SO4 and SO3
True
>No post-game
Completely wrong
>Animations are top notch, but character models are shit
Models are great, you can see for yourself right now
>>333572807
>Models are great,
Someone post potato. You know what I mean.
>>333572901
Majority of the faces aren't wonky like potato
she does look like afs
>>333557196
the other games have one planet or >90% of the game is on one planet
camera wasn't particular good in SO3
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>>333572672
Thanks for admitting you don't even know what you're shitposting about.
>>333573018
>the other games
so 4 was about travelling the galaxy and exploring other planets. so5 has gone backwards.
>>333555075
Trully the FFXIII of the Star Ocean Saga, Bravo SQUARE-ENIX.
now go make me some FF7 HD
>>333572972
>afs
what
>>333572038
3'd story is trash but the combat was improved to an extent. Like you don't have to pick an enemy at the center to use an aoe, you can drop it whereever so it's easier to hit multiple enemies. Cast is far smaller and less cool, the goofy best friend character ends up being the strongest guy since his aoe is the best. The guild jobs are the main story focus rather than a huge ass sidequest so you can't just ignore them, but most of them have no bearing on your plot so its eh. exploring the world after the end of 2 is neat though since the only other game in that setting was a neogeo pocket game starring Elk iirc.
It's worth playing if you liked 1 and 2. Twilight is also good from a gameplay and music standpoint. But the story and characters are shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOGkHf353f4
>>333573246
alcohol fetus syndrome
>>333573139
does it add anything meaningful? are they all medieval themed that could as easily be done on one planet with different towns?
>>333573139
SO 4 was 2 planets with only 3 areas on it, two spaceships, and a planet that was heavily established in lore previously. Oh and I guess the final planet, either way I think it's disingenuous to make comparisons.
>>333572620
Honestly all the footage I've seen incombat had a pretty good camera. It's not top down but you're never blinded and it doesn't get caught on or blocked by terrain. I don't get people's complaints about it. And I played zestiria and hated that camera
>>333573139
4 had a lot of planets, but 3 of them are literally one town and one dungeon. The other planet is Roak which we have access to maybe half of but most of the game was still on it.
>>333573367
>are they all medieval themed
no
>does it add anything meaningful
fucking yeah it did. traveling the galaxy getting into space adventures, not knowing what you'd find next. so4 for as anime as it is and despite how dumb characters could act was cool.
>>333573432
>it's disingenuous to prove my argument wrong when I want to be right
>>333557292
The hell?
Man, well. That's what the devs get for consorting with Americans. I'll be buying this at half price as well, used. Fuck them.
>>333573612
No it's disingenuous because you're going "Look at what a set back this is! There is only one planet with 20 distinct areas while the prequel had 7 planets (but totaled 20 distinct areas)!"
It's an issue of saying something is bigger when yeah it's technically true, but it has just as much detail and content at the end of the day.
>>333574387
The point is that you're exploring different worlds and situations instead of just running around on one world, total game play area isn't the important thing.
