Worth playing?
>>333510049
if you slap on ultimate apocalipse, yeah
Yes, with mods.
>>333510049
Even without mods, its good. Not excellent, but definitely good.
>>333510180
Which mods?
>>333510049
yes pretty good
>>333510049
Soulstorm (eventually) had the most balanced multiplayer out of the DoW games.
So if you're just playing for that then yeah give it a spin. Necron master race.40k thread?
>>333510615
would be worth if Nids were actually playable.
If you want DoW as it was meant to be played, look up the Ultimate Apocalypse mod. Still being updated, lots of bugfixes and new races like Chaos Daemons and Tyranid mod support
>>333510962
does this mod feature the world map like single player campaing or is it Skirmish/MP only?
>>333510049
yea
>>333511154
pretty sure it's MP only but I haven't even tried playing single player
>>333511154
It'd just apply the stat and unit changes to the campaign.
>>333510049
>>333511383
did you kids even play UA on SS before posting about it
YES it does change all the units for singleplayer
>>333510049
Best game in the series
>>333510160
This.
The integrated heroes mod alone is worth playing the game, for the pleasure of maintaining one squad long enough to level to the maximum. Then save and reload, and marvel at the fact that the levzl got back to the lowest, but the stats stayes the same, enabling infinite leveling.
>mfw parias faster than aircraft, with 130k hp and their attack reducing the unit or building's max hp until the squad dies
>>333511572
I didn't like DoW 2 at all but Chaos rising was the shit.
>>333511835
UA is garbage
>>333511572
Preferred Dark Crusade over all of em tbqh with you familia
>>333510049
As the others have said, it has the most balanced multiplayer although that doesn't mean Dark Crusade isn't also fun as far as MP goes.
SP, this game has pretty interesting stronghold assault missions. Unfortunately, that's the only advantage as everything else is worse compared to its predecessor. The atmosphere is gone (no banter between characters, no race specific intros, shitty voice acting in the case of almost every commander), the gameplay is drawn out (changing the objective to Annihilate instead of Destroy HQ, you only retain a handful of buildings after conquering a province making late-game defense very tedious, adding even more useless provinces to attack), flying units are underwhelming and disappointing and the game still suffers from the memory leak bug that slows the loading times considerably.
Only worth playing once for the Sisters' campaign, they have a feeling of freshness to them and a well voiced commander/units, plus you start with the best HQ power making the campaign a bit less painful to finish.
>>333512181
DC had a better campaign. Soulstorm singleplayer was just "let's hastily scramble together some shit that kind of looks like the last one and call it a day".
>>333512181
Multiplayer Soulstorm was the best iteration.
But nobody can deny that the single player for Dark Crusade was the shit.
>>333512224
DC had the absolute worst multiplayer, it didnt even work most of the time.
>>333512304
>that banter between the Blood Ravens and the Imperial Guard
I wonder if any Sister of Battle units have ever realized how shit the Imperium is and Joined the Greater good.
>>333512304
>But nobody can deny that the single player for Dark Crusade was shit.
Fixed that for you
>>333512224
>SP, this game has pretty interesting stronghold assault missions.
I felt that all the Strongholds for SS were flat out worse than their DC counterparts. Especially the Necron one. And the IG one. And the SM one.
soulstorm, in spite of it's weak story, will forever inform my impression of warhammer, not just because of the excellent voice acting, but because every group in the sector decided there was perfectly rational reason to genocide everyone else, regardless of their race or activity
'kill everyone' doesn't occur nearly often enough in games, and I enjoyed it immensely
>>333512289
>DC had a better campaign
Nah DC singleplayer was ass
>>333512453
If you didn't like the Dark Crusade SP campaign then you would hate the Soulstorm SP campaign even more.
There's really nothing to argue about there. The only debate is what multiplayer you prefer. SS multi was the best but SoB and DE were pretty weak additions to the roster (and the global abilities mechanic was dumb).
>a bunch of skirmishes
>good campaign
DC and SS memers fuck off
Chaos Rising best campaign
SS best multiplayer
>>333512548
That's a fine way of thinking, guardsman. Proceed.
>>333512548
>not just because of the excellent voice acting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO3MttgvHUY
They must have had so much godamn fun just hamming it up.
>>333510049
too SJW, get Dark Crusade ;^)
>>333512683
It was literally Soulstorm but better. If you don't like it, you obviously didn't like the Soulstorm one either so I don't know what you're trying to argue.
>>333512685
They were both mediocre SP campaigns but SS was better, better Overworld control, better HQ missions, the ONLY thing DC did better was have tiny bits of dialog between commanders.
Also theres absolutely no debate about multiplayer SS blew DC out of the water in every possible way, both SoB and DE were great additions and faith/soulpower mechanics were great too.
>>333512758
The traitor mission with Avitus is great.
> Only the fury of battle can silence the dead!
Why the hell did they add air units? The game engine was not meant for them.
I hate white people.
>>333512508
It tried to do something different and I respect that. The difficulty level was all over the place though, sometimes I enjoyed the challenge (like beating the Tau before their reinforcements arrived), but there were also some low points like attacking IG as DE, I had to suicidally dump whole squads of elites just to progress from outpost to outpost while they'd send Ogryns and Leman Russes to fuck with my Listening Posts.
>>333512335
>it didnt even work most of the time.
Ah, so you didn't play it. Top lel.
Also, DC had nothing as bad as the infinite resources glitch or Harlequins erasing your entire economy for the Eldar. Or Spectators spending DEldar's Soul Power.
>>333513079
The only reason people played SS was because of the fixed to already existing races. Because of the above bugs however, the game was pretty much DoA for the first critical months. I did enjoy the massive influx of people coming back to DC so there's that.
>>333513394
t. Alberto Barbossa
>>333513079
>better Overworld control
>lose all your buildings on defense missions
>this represents 'better' control
>better HQ missions
Only the SoB stronghold was worth a damn. Maybe the SM one. All the rest were way, way worse than the ones in DC.
>both SoB and DE were great additions
SoB would definitely have been the front runner pick from the ten guys that give a fuck about SoB still. The rest of us were hoping for motherfucking Tyranids. And nobody on the planet gave a fuck about Dark Eldar in 2008.
>faith/soulpower mechanics
You can make it fit for SoB but for Dark Eldar it was jarringly out of place - it would have made far more sense on a Chaos factionlike daemons.
>>333513391
THQ forced them to.
>>333513391
>the game engine was not made for them
look at me im going to spout some nonsense about how i feel and say the game was not meant to have them
Dark Eldar are quite an achievement as a faction.
Even in a universe as grim and full of spiky evilness as 40k, they still manage to look like out of place deviantart horseshit.
>>333511572
DoW2 and its expansions were fine. Different but good.
>>333512421
>invade Chaos stronghold as necrons
>Necron Lord makes Eliphas shit himself
>>333513937
you talk like a fag and your shit's retarded
>>333514117
>thinks dark eldar aren't the edgiest edgelords of all time
That's half the appeal, mate.
>>333513596
YOU'RE FUCKING A WHITE MALE
So is this game any good if you're only interested in offline play? This thread is shit it turned into DC vs SS debate.
>>333510160
>if you slap on a broken mod that still doesn't work properly
but hey, I love dsyncing in 60% of my games
>>333513516
>Also, DC had nothing as bad as the infinite resources glitch or Harlequins erasing your entire economy for the Eldar. Or Spectators spending DEldar's Soul Power.
Yes it did and it still does, FOTM accuracy is broken, Sonic pulse triggers hundreds of times on cast, the game is prone to desyncs, Harlequins kiss hits commanders when attached to a squad, as well as many more things, the game is a broken mess and it was never patched. also trainers STILL work in DC.
There's a reason why no one plays DC.
Lol, the souls game of the PC.
Is there a mod or even game that let's you play as the mechanicus or the dark mechanicum, or chaos renegades?
Reminder that no one actually plays DC because its a broken unbalanced mess.
Reminder that the "people" who keep defending DC is one person samefagging who pulls this shit in every thread.
Reminder that though you can samefag the shit out of an anonymous image board you cant samefag the user stats on steam charts
>>333514732
I think the people who keep defending DC are the people who mainly played offline skirmishes/the campaign.
what the Tau should be
>most advanced species with the tech to combat insurmountable odds without reliance on Gods or dark magic
what the Tau actually are
>Nid punching bag
>>333515013
Not if you use kroot
>>333514732
Jesus how fucking hard is this.
>dark crusade has better single player
>soulstorm has better multiplayer
>you can appreciate both games for their respective qualities
I have no idea why people have such a hard time wrapping their head around the idea that you can enjoy BOTH.
>>333515168
>dark crusade has better single player
>>333514457
>FOTM accuracy is broken
There's no "fotm accuracy bug" in DC.
>Sonic pulse triggers hundreds of times on cast
It only triggers twice WHICH IS MEANINGLESS, AS THAT ABILITY DOES NEGLIGIBLE DAMAGE ON ITS OWN AND WORKS BY INCREASING DAMAGE DONE BY OTHER UNITS HITTING THE SAME BUILDING, WHICH WORKS EXACTLY THE SAME IN DC and yes, that has been fixed in SS.
>the game is prone to desyncs
About as much as Soulstorm.
>Harlequins kiss hits commanders when attached to a squad
Happens in SS as well. Keep in mind this is extremely random as the Harlequin simply targets the nearest unit in a squad to apply the kiss. Given how many units a squad can have as well as the fact that commanders are always positioned in the centre of the squad, the odds of a kiss killing him are extremely low.
So yes, you have one tiny bug versus issues that killed the entire game. Well done, you really showed me (and anyone else who bothered to read this).
>>333514341
Apply as much Adderall as necessary then re-read the thread.
>>333515013
>Nid punching bag
>and necron
>and dark eldar
Tau are the new Eldar - they just get killed by whatever other scary threat is floating around but they bounce back like it's no problem despite losing entire worlds.
>>333514343
So it works about as well as SS itself? Good to know.
Sounds like a (you) problem.
>>333515296
>Little to no interaction between the factions
DC is better
>Dark Crusade
>Attack Chaos as Smarine or vice versa
>Dialogue and banter between the two leaders during the mission
>Soulstorm
>Chaos & Smarine
>Literally nothing except them talking to themselves or their own troops regarding tactics.
>>333515418
>There's no "fotm accuracy bug" in DC.
Yes there is
>It only triggers twice
No it can trigger many more times than twice insta killing or breaking the moral of anything it hits,
>AS THAT ABILITY DOES NEGLIGIBLE DAMAGE ON ITS OWN AND WORKS BY INCREASING DAMAGE DONE BY OTHER UNITS HITTING THE SAME BUILDING
lolno you fucking retard thats Destabilization
>About as much as Soulstorm.
Nope DC is well known for its deysinc issues, SS has no such problems
>Happens in SS as well
No it doesn't
Once again DC is a broken pile of shit and no one plays it.
I put a couple hundred hours into DC and bought this game expecting the same, but I havent played it very much at all. Idk what it is, maybe its just too similar but i dont find it any better than DC like people in these threads always claim.
DC is trash SS is a much better game
>>333517256
That was my biggest complaint of the single player.
>>333512683
>Nah DC singleplayer was ass
The man with no taste, ladies and gents!
>>333510049
https://youtu.be/gVnJH2scIVk
https://youtu.be/4csrtUHiRYc
