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FFXII Details Leaked

Its happening /v/
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>>333508364
Nobody cares about such a shit game
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>>333508364
Stop toying with my heart.
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will it actually be fun?
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Implying they won't just PS2 Remaster it.

But really, XII HD on it's own would suck. They need to throw something else into the bundle to make it worth it.
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what is this garbage you faggot
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Apparently the leak comes from SE Europe
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>>333508553
>Implying they won't just PS2 Remaster it.
>But really, XII HD on it's own would suck. They need to throw something else into the bundle to make it worth it.


Dissidia Demo
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Just here to say that XII was a great game with some of the best non-human races and world design in the entire FF franchise.
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whoa is that new hitman
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>>333508364
OP please don't joke around like that.
I pray everyday for a FFXII hd port for PS4 and vita
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Shit's coming from plebbit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/4drqmp/ffxii_hd_details/
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>>333508364
>mfw they don't even remaster the best version of the game
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>>333508720
>I pray everyday for a FFXII hd port for PS4 and vita
And your reward will be the vanilla release instead of the International Zodiac Job System.
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>>333508364
That would be nice. Hopefully it's the Zodiac version
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>>333508364
They better make it the IZJS, way better than the original
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>>333508553
Maybe a console version of this or the fft remaster. I could see them doing a Kingdom Hearts HD collection thing with the Ivalice Alliance.
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I'd be all over a FF9/12 HD bundle.
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If its International Edition I'd buy it. That's the only good version of FF12.

Too bad the picture is fake though.
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>>333508809
I'd still be happy with that.

The best thing that can happen is if they make it IZJS and allow you to play with the old License Board if you want
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>>333509024
Why the fuck would IX be a part of it
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mfw plebbit fags try to post something
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2017 confirmed?
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>>333509062
Purely because we know it's coming anyway. Call it the FF Classic collection or some shit, who cares.
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>>333508985
Tactics, Tactics Advance, Tactics A2, Revenant Wings, XII IZJS, and Vagrant Story in one neat package.

I'd buy it.

Too bad Square won't release it because it wouldn't sell in Japan
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>>333509024
Doesn't 9 have prerendered backgrounds? That seems like it would be a lot more work to make an HD port of it
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Too good to be true. But i want to believe. That reddit post seems to spill some beans if true.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/4drqmp/

LMAO ITS FROM AUTISMDIT
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>>333509196
>Purely because we know it's coming anyway.
????????????????????????????
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>>333509234
>Tactics, Tactics Advance, Tactics A2, Revenant Wings, XII IZJS, and Vagrant Story
how much would this even be?

Tactics and VS alone are ten bucks still I think.
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why the fuck is youtube on a dev console
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>>333509327
FFIX PC was announced ages ago. It isn't a stretch to think it'll come to PS4 too.
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>>333508364
ANOTHER PORT FOR THE PORTSTATION

#4TheViewers
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>>333508364
Do you think they'll make a Vita version of the game like they did for FFX/X-2?
FFX runs well on the Vita and it would be nice to play FFXII on the go
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>>333509285
>AUTISMDIT
doesn't really have a good ring to it desu
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>>333509475
If Type-0 HD wasn't good enough for the Vita I doubt any other games will be, sadly.
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>They release a demo of FFVII
>The combat is actually good
>They update Platinum Demo with good combat
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final fantasy fags jacking off to this baka
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>>333509449
Not even fans of IX want the shitty PC butcher port, unless you're one of those people missing half a brain who thinks that throwing 320x240 assets into a filter then stretching them out to 1920x1080 is a good idea.
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>>333509441
devs need to watch lets plays too
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>>333509441
Because this isn't a dev console, it's fake
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>>333509624
SE upset me so much when they announced that.
>It's coming on the Vita guys
>Just kidding, it's for PS4 and Xbone
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>>333509475
>vita
>games
>not dead

choose one
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These cock suckers will never release an english version fo the IZJS of XII will they?

Fucking hell
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I legit want an HD trilogy of FFXIII for PS4.
I only played the first, but wanna experience how the series is.
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>>333509762
Kojimbo was posting MGSV on PS4 months before release, updates, icons, etc all on a standard ps4. Outta here with that.
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>tfw Ivalice forgotten
>no ivalice MMO
>no ivalice games
>XII was never properly finished
>matsuno gone

help
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>>333509810
If you say more big boy curse words, they might take you seriously :^)
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>>333509801
Nice memes. Vita has a ton of games coming out this year, even better if you know moon
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>>333509864
its shit

just get it for pc
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>>333508364
>Getting excited for the remake of a bad FF game

Really, niggers?
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>>333509864
Are you unwell in the head?

Should I call you a doctor?
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>>333509995
>FFXII
>Bad
The only bad games are 2 and 13
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>>333509143
Why localize an already English gam- unless...IS IT XII IZJS THEY ARE TRANSLATING?

I doubt it. These jap nigs have a habit of doing new shit translations for their remakes of already english games. Look what happened with tales on steam
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>>333509956
And by that you mean watch a longplay on youtube. Same experience.
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>>333508364
FUCK YES
Please be real. This would be fantastic news if it is. I'd play it, adore it, and love it. One of my favorite games ever!
>>333508523
FUCK YOU
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>>333509928
Vita has tons of awful games coming out
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>>333509794
That was SE who did that, it was that Shahid guy at sony who was constantly going on about how he had games for the vita - he botched it.

SE always said Xbone and PS4.
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>>333508764
>I will let people draw their own conclusions here, but for what it's worth it seems likely that OP engaged in vote manipulation to try to promote this post. The post was automatically hidden by AutoModerator, at the time I'm writing this, it has only been awaiting approval by a mod, no one has seen it yet. But surprisingly it already has four upvotes...
Normally I wouldn't even mention this here, it would be restricted to modmail, but OP is making extraordinary claims, so I think it's worth sharing.

Old grandpa here. Why are reddit posters so long-winded? Every time I see screens or links here it's always full of superfluous language.
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>>333510085
FFXII is really fucking bad.

Go play XI or XIV if you want a proper FF MMO game.
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>>333510263
Sorry, I meant - that wasn't SE who said it was coming to vita.
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>>333510328
XII IZJS is really good.

I say this as someone who found the original quite boring.
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>>333510089
Have to make sure all the strings are updated to the new consoles and tested? Localisation could mean anything I guess
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>>333510085

XII is only hated by kids and people with shit tastes. It's also because it's serious as fuck.

>No boy meets girl romance
>No evil villain
>long dungeons that make the story pacing pretty bad at some points
>More focus on world building
>Combat probably the hardest out of all main numbered offline Final Fantasy games
>Casuals also don't like programming the AI
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>>333509143
I thought 2017 was the FFVII remake.
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>>333510281

Because Redditors like to feel smart.
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This better be IZJS, or at least have the option to switch to it.
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>>333510546

This. If it isn't, then fucking dropped.
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>people thinking it won't be IZJS for some reason when this happens

They ported X-2 international famalam
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>>333510281
gotta get dem upvotes
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>>333510467

my nigga

my only major gripe with the game is how the cutscenes die off slowly after wraithwall, the you gradually feel more alienated from the party
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>>333508650
>tecmo koei's dissidia
no thanks
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>>333510328
I value your opinion anon. So here's a (You)

but just because it differs from mine I will give you the same attitude you gave it
eg.

You suck nigger dick you fucking shitface faggot. Fucking kill yourself.
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>>333508553
>They need to throw something else into the bundle to make it worth it.
Dragon Quest VIII HD, that way there would be at least one good game.
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>>333510467
>Casuals also don't like programming the AI

That was the best part. Along with bounties and the absurd methods to get the Zodiac Spear. Also delicious brown Fran and her people
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>>333510467
>long dungeons that make the story pacing pretty bad at some points
thankfully IZJS lets you press L1 and fast forward through these parts.
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i would die if izjs came to vita, ffxii is long due for an hd remaster. the game is beautiful on ps2 i can't imagine an hd version.

that being said, I'm used to the regular version of the game, and am scared about how much time it would take me to get a seitengrate without save states

pls let this be real
>>333510467
difficult battle system? lol
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>>333510506
Square has to line up more releases to make money back for FFXV anon.

>>333510281
Who cares, mod. Honestly.
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近年では、多くの研究は、公開鍵と秘密鍵の暗号化の創造に専念されています。一方、いくつかは、視覚化の生産者、消費者の問題を合成しました。効率的なアーキタイプの現在の状態を考えると、大手アナリストは悪名高いハードウェアとアーキテクチャの基本原則を組み込んだネットワークの輻輳制御のエミュレーションを願っています。私たちの研究では、スプレッドシートは、コンパクトや知識や共感に基づいて行うことができることを論破するための努力を集中しました。
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>>333510694
What? How the fuck do you fast forward though a dungeon with L1? You auto walk and auto fight in super fast motion all the way to the end? Its basically im a huge casual faggot kill me I have aids button for normies?
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>>333509662
As a fan yes I do
>implying it won't be a good port
There are already signs that its a significant improvement
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Can't wait for Square's next low effort cash grab!

I, for one, am glad that our Square-Enix overlords stopped remaking the classic Final Fantasies on the DS so they could focus on porting them to the PC master race
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>>333510685
Just being able to leave your controller and grab a drink while fighting a boss and watch your tactics play out.
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>>333510758
>Square has to line up more releases to make money back for FFXV anon.

You saying XV will be a huge failure and a flop? Why
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>>333510794
It's like if you put it on double speed on an emulator

It's not like the combats difficult outside the boss battles anyway.
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>>333510827
>Posting cherry picked screenshots with the worst PSX emulator using the worst possible "graphic enhancements"

So you ARE one of those half-brainers
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>>333510467
Or maybe people don't like 12 because the music is shit, the characters are shit, the pacing is shit, the story is shit, the Gambit system desperately tries to make the MMO combat interesting but fails hard, and the only actual side content is playing Monster Hunter, which has always been a shitty franchise.
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>>333510676
Yeah, FFXII.
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>>333510898
>You saying XV will be a huge failure and a flop? Why

Because not even the japs are excited about FFXV? Because it plays and looks like shit?
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>>333510959
>worst possible graphic enhancements
>literal character model improvements
>bad
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>>333510898
I'm not saying that. They need to make 10 million to make money back and they probably won't make that back in the first couple months.

It has potential.
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>>333511013
>look at all my wrong opinions
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>>333511047
That's a really funny joke, anon. Thinking that FFXII is good.
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why would they not remaster the best version? I wouldn't buy it if it's vanilla desu.
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>>333510959
>>333511068
Oh wait I misunderstood what you were saying. You were talking about the emulator graphics options. Which emulator are the emulated versions from?
And regardless, no matter what emulator you use you aren't going to have those model changes.
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>>333511192
probably hope that everyone's forgotten IZJS exists

shame because vanilla is monotonous as fuck
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>>333511013
>bait: the post

If this isn't bait, then you're a miserable person
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>>333510724

>difficult battle system? lol

I've ever died or had my ass handed to me more times in IZJS than any other post-NES FF.
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>>333510898
In the time it took Versus XIII to be announced and rebranded as XV:

Atlus released Persona 3 and completely retooled the Persona franchise into being one of their flagships, being equally/even more popular than it's parent franchise of Shin Megami Tensei

Duke Nukem Forever went from Vaporware to being released

The Last Guardian went from Vaporware to being re-revealed for the PS4

Source 2 was announced and released, along side accidental reveals that HL3 was running on that engine

If MGSV lost enough money that Konami had to shut down KojiPro and fire their most respected and competent director, what do you honestly think is going to happen to Square when XV hits and doesn't make back it's money?
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>>333511192
It'll likely include both versions. Their remasters always have the shit the japs only got, look at the KH and FFX remasters.
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>>333511150
Better than DQVIII at any rate.
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>>333511242
how can i forget it exists when I have played it in HD at 60 fps?

>>333511342
O I am laffin
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>>333511294

either*
whoops
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how to make ff12 worth buying again
1. uncompress the audio
2. put a shirt on vaan
3. zodiac job systems but with the ability to respect or switch jobs
4. swap out the ingame character models for the cinematic models
5. increase the walk speed by 20% by default with an option to increase the total game speed by an aditional 20% with the press of a button
6. local multiplayer would be a nice touch, split screen or other players using cell phones as a screen/ input device
7. just give all of vaan's lines to penelo
8. more fran booty
9. official source film maker support similar to what team fortress has
10. the option to remove vaan and penelo from the game completely
11. skip 12 and port vagrant story with real time combat and an expanded inventory instead
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>>333511390
>how to make ff12 worth buying again
>11. skip 12 and port vagrant story with real time combat and an expanded inventory instead
Pretty much, XII is trash and always will be trash. You can polish a turd, but at the end of the day, it's still a turd
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>>333510898

FFXV needs to sell more than Witcher 3 and MGSV. Let than sink in.
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>>333511390
>uncompress the audio
Holy fuck this. You can tell there's so much talent in the voice acting but all of the audio sounds so bad.
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Just emulate it, retards
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>>333511059
okay have fun with your memes : )


>>333511313
What does any of that have to do with anything?
It wasn't even in full development before what, 2 or 3 years ago?

>Atlus released Persona 3 and completely retooled the Persona franchise into being one of their flagships, being equally/even more popular than it's parent franchise of Shin Megami Tensei
Funny how you talk about this while Persona 5 is becoming vaporware.
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>>333511013
>shitting on Sakimoto's music
I'll fight you m8.
Uematsu is the worst Square composer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75hQJylsOdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwrs5G4UM_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOAD58HCB-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuiV6CNpLWU
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>>333511390
>3. zodiac job systems but with the ability to respect or switch jobs
I'd prefer if there were options to switch between IZJS content and not.
I don't like character classes. Much prefer having full control over what my party is.
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>>333511480
>You can polish a turd, but at the end of the day, it's still a turd
Like Vagrant Story?
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>>333511068
>>333511210

these images make me think there's really no reason not to emulate, or even play the original version. Call me /vr/, but I think there's some charm to dusting off the ps1 and playing with the wired controller.
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>>333511545
>What does any of that have to do with anything?
>Funny how you talk about this while Persona 5 is becoming vaporware.

This thread's a real eye opener. Are all Final Fantasy fans this delusional? Is that how the series stayed alive after Square stopped caring when VIII flopped?
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If they add more Hunts I'm in. Hunts were the fucking shit.
Otherwise this >>333511542 XII and IZJS are super easy to emulate.
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>>333511480

Jesus, even if someone just re-made Vagrant Story with a polished RISK system and less broken crafting, I'd be all over that. And music, don't forget the fucking music.
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>The PS4 has a dedicated screenshot button
>People still take pictures of their monitor

Why?
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>>333511693
>XII and IZJS are super easy to emulate.
Just gonna throw it out there, that's because PCSX2 was designed specifically to emulate X and XII.

>>333511776
Because it's fake you retard, holy shit
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>>333511390
>1.uncompress the audio
The soundtrack should be a very easy fix, but unless SE has had the raw VO sitting in a hard drive for ten fucking years, I wouldn't count on it.
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>>333511776
Getting screenshots off the PS4 is a pain in the dick unless you have a Facebook account or some shit.
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>>333508364
This isn't real because it's just SO convenient they they have two other Square Enix things downloaded that haven't released yet. (Sapienza and the FFVII theme)

This is obviously fake. There might be a FFXII HD coming out, but we already knew it was a maybe. This retard just wants attention.
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>>333511313
Konami wanted to leave games all together and push mobile micro transaction garbage and shit tier pachinko machines
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>>333511542
Why am I retarded? I already emulate it but I still want an official FFXII HD Remaster. This is Square's chance to improve upon an already near perfect game.
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>>333511929

No it's not. You can just copy screenshots onto your USB.
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I just want the 3 FF13 games on PS4. I got as far as the 1st Barthandelus fight in XIII then the game got stolen. Never played XIII-2 or Lightning Returns
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>>333511929
Or you know. A USB stick.
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>>333511883
Square never kept any source codes before the PS2 era, and even then, remember what happened to Kingdom Hearts'?
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>>333511689
>This thread's a real eye opener. Are all Final Fantasy fans this delusional?
The first part is true, the second part is also becoming true.

It's been, what, over 200 days since there were any new news about P5? Come on dude that shit has gotten delayed for years now it's fucking ridiculous.

It began its development in 2010 and was officially announced 2012. It's absurd.

>Is that how the series stayed alive after Square stopped caring when VIII flopped?
What the fuck are you babbling about?
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>>333512013
>>333512043
That's still an extra step instead of whipping out my phone, taking a pic and uploading to 4chin all from one device.
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>>333511549

>Tfw forget a certain track

its the one that plays when you're on the airships I think
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Because the FFX remaster was so great
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>>333511929

>Switch PS4 on
>Hit capture button
>Put picture on USB or upload it straight to Facebook
>Done

>Struggle to take out smartphone from pocket
>It's out of power again
>Charge it for 10 minutes
>Take a picture
>It's blurry as fuck
>Try again
>That'll do
>open 4chan on phone
>Pig thumbs make it almost impossible to type correctly
>Try to find the picture in the gallery but it's lost among all the dick pics I've been saving lately
>Finally find it
>Upload
>Done
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>>333511390
>2. put a shirt on vaan
I have a better idea, remove Vaan.
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>>333508809
IZJS licence board is way too restrictive anyways, its like playing FFX with the regular sphere grid, and none of the character's optimal roles are fun for roleplaying. In Vanilla you could have a bow weilding, magic throwing fran, wheras in IZJS you have to choose between the two. Additionally, going for the Guns class gimps the fuck out of you because they didn't change the balance from the original, which is guns are great in the beginning and shit towards the end. The only real flaw with the vanilla system was how everyone had every ability at the end of the game, but for the first 2/3rd of the game the progression is fantastic

The only good things it added were the FF button and
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>>333512059
I haven't kept up, what happened to KH?
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>>333512019
>Hey, lets take the three worst received Final Fantasy games we've ever made, put them in a single collection, completely ignore the fact that the last time we tried to port them to x86_64, they didn't even work, and sell them back to the people at $60!

Yeah I can't see a single problem with what you want.
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Shit's breaking out on GAF now
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>>333512217
cry more you little cunt
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>>333512217
The KH 1.5 and 2.5 Remasters were. and I actually prefer the bottom to the top. Not to mention even while most of FFX's music was made worse, a few tracks were made better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABXt0B8nDRQ
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>>333512343by I liked 13. At least more than 12
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>>333512343
Lightning's Return has zero issues in its PC port, and XIII/XIII-2's just have those annoying framerate drops.
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>>333512019
Please god no. You're better off skipping to XIII-2 anyway, that falcie pope fight is copy pasted 3 times and gets no harder. At least XIII-2 adds some better enviornments and has the monster thing going for it.
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>>333512217
It was though.

>But look at this Tidus haha this proves it's shit!

>>333512443
KH1.5 and 2.5 both had stupid amounts of stability issues though. Or rather, 1 & 2 themselves.

Not to mention shitty loading times in 2.
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>>333512341
Source code was unreadable. Kingdom Hearts HD was made from scratch using remade assets, assets from KH2/BBS, and they even needed Haley Joel Osment to re-record his lines.

That's why Sora sounds so different (You can't really get a guy whose balls dropped to voice his pre-pubecent self easily), and why it plays more like KH2 minus the triangle button (the engine was built off KH2's)
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As someone who's actually played both the IZJS version and the original, I hope to fuck they let you use the original licence board.
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Fran a shit, Larsa a best
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>>333512630
> and they even needed Haley Joel Osment to re-record his lines.
He loves it though so it's okay
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>>333512296
If you abstract it that far any of those processes will take ages
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>>333508364
I would love that
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> FFXII was good
do you fucks actually like XII or is it all nostalgia? I was bored to tears with that game
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I thought FFXII was blocked from re-releases because it had Gackt in it
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>>333512639
die in a fire
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Fuck yeah, that would be awesome. This is legit right? It can't be faked right?
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>>333512153
>using a USB stick is too much work
For a landwhale like you, yes.
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>>333512865
I have to assume nostalgia, either for XII or Star Wars.

That's the only way anyone could have liked this train wreck unless they played IZJS
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I'll buy it just cause XII was one of my favorite ones. I doubt I'll bother to play through it though. Or maybe I will. I've having more fun replaying older games than the new ones lately.
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>>333512963
>not achieving maximum efficiency with your time and energy

Casul. Don't ever respond to my posts.
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>>333512401
Eat more shitty and unecessary remasters you shit eater.
>>333512443
Except the KH remasters were the final mix versions that never had a western release and were worth buying.

>>333512583
>But look at this Tidus haha this proves it's shit!
It has awful models, kill yourself. Emulating it literally looks better.
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FF12's ridiculously underrated, but halfway through the game I can see why some people get turned off from it

But once you can put together the best gambits, it's ridiculously good
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>>333512865
I've always hated it but im 26. I feel like the people who always liked it are far younger than me but who knows.
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>>333510089
They did the international versions for FFX and FFX-2 HD.
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>>333513092
What did X and X2 have in the international versions the NA versions didnt have?
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>>333513092
It's almost as if FFX International was already entirely in English, and X-2 International only needed the text from Vanilla X-2 swapped in, and maybe 300 lines total of new content to translate.
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>>333513052
Don't get mad at me Porky, it's not my fault you're a lardass.
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>>333513057
>It has awful models, kill yourself. Emulating it literally looks better.
Spoken like a person who never actually took a look at it beyond Tidus.

>Except the KH remasters were the final mix versions that never had a western release and were worth buying.
You do realise that both X and X-2 were international versions of which only X had release in EU but not US, right?
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>>333512630
That's pretty impressive, but if that would be the case for a XII remaster, I would rather have the compressed voices than a new, possibly weaker voice over.
Since XII was came so late in the PS2 lifecycle, would the problems with the KH1 code still apply?
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>>333512950
have fun never using guns, crossbows, time magic, axes or break abilities because all their respective classes are trash
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>>333508364
STOP FUCKING TEASING ME

I'M BEGGING YOU

Holy fuck I want it so bad, more then XV. I really hope it has an option for playing the original version, and the international. As they play it kind of differently. Also can't wait for people to fight Yiazmat for the first time.
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>>333513187
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X/Version_differences

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2/Version_differences
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>>333512583
The loading times were the fault of bluray discs though. That couldn't be helped unless they had an install feature, and for some reason KH games don't get along with digital for whatever reason.
>>333512865
Yes, I actually like XII. Especially for its world above all else. The amount of detail and effort in its world explaining every little facet of how people live and how the classes live and how the races are different was cool. I also really enjoyed going on Hunts, and the voice acting was fucking amazing. Sakimoto's soundtrack fit the politics and war themes really well, and I liked programming my units actions via gambits. Allowed me to have an easier time managing my party.
>>333513057
The Final Mix versions weren't the only reasons for owning them. The music was almost universally made better, some character models and textures were improved, and in general the UI was made to look good in HD. BBS especially had significant improvements from its PSP counterpart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbm6xxuwuyA
vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2PS7IoePKw
I'd argue that besides being the Final Mix versions, the music improvements were the best reasons to own 1.5 and 2.5
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f...fake?
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>>333513336
>The loading times were the fault of bluray discs though.
The loading times weren't as bad in the Japanese version. So while Bluray plays a part in it it's not entirely because of it.

> and for some reason KH games don't get along with digital for whatever reason.
As far as I know it's about song rights.
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>>333513334
thanks
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>>333513251
>would the problems with the KH1 code still apply?
I assume that the KH problems came about because it was one of Square's first games for the PS2, even before they got bought out by Enix and had the Enix money, so the source code was probably stored very cheaply which led to it deteriorating.

Four years later, with the Enix money, Enix competency, and FFXII being a much bigger deal than Final Fantasy x Disney, I can only imagine that they kept the source code at least a little bit safer.

Then again, this is Square we're talking about...
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>>333513092
Can those versions be emulated on the PC?
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>>333513061
>FF12's ridiculously underrated
please, if anything III is underrated as most comments about it is "it's good I guess" to "It's just a shitty NES game" indicating they never played it.

XII is on tier of popularity with entries like IV, VIII, & IX. Always talked about in a positive sense and lauded for it's good acting and political intrigue.

While I may not like XII myself, I do hope you guys get a rerelease, but please don't think XII is underrated.
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>>333513023
But I like XII and dislike IZJS's class system. I feel as if it butchered the license board and took control away from the player for the sake of creating classes that players could have already made themselves if they wanted to. And I LOVE XII.
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>>333513235
>Spoken like a person who never actually took a look at it beyond Tidus.
I did, they're not much of an improvement. Not to mention they butchered the soundtrack.
>You do realise that both X and X-2 were international versions of which only X had release in EU but not US, right?
Did you know you can emulate the international version and it looks better than the remaster?
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>>333513585
Yes, go to /vg/ and ask emugen for help if you need it. Though, you shouldn't since PCSX2 was designed specifically for FFX and FFXII
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>>333508364
Will it be a proper remaster or one of the gay ass emulation things?
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>>333510467
>Combat probably the hardest out of all main numbered offline Final Fantasy games
Ah yes having the game play itself sure is hard
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>>333513680
> Not to mention they butchered the soundtrack.
Barely any tracks had radical difference to them, mainly Besaid island and that's about it.

And to sate your autism the PS4 version has ability to toggle old soundtrack on.

>Did you know you can emulate the international version
And? You said that because KH remasters were the Final Mixes they were worth it but when this is literally the same thing it's all about "but emulation!!!!"

Get a grip, lad.
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>>333513061
I remember the judge fight kept kicking my ass so I stopped playing
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>>333513773
Assuming Square still has the source code, HD Remaster

If they don't, enjoy TOTALLY NOT PCSX2 running FFXII the same way that TOTALLY NOT ePSXe runs FFIX for the PC port since this probably won't get a PS3 release and use the PS2 software emulator inside of it.
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Speaking of Final Fantasy HD ports, why does the 9 HD say it requires 20GB of space?
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>>333513992
FFIX is already on phones. Is the phone version using some emulator to run it?
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>>333514170
no
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>>333514219
Then why would the PC version do that?
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>>333514170
Yes. Did you know that Android phones can easily emulate PSP games now? Hell, even Dolphin has an Android port if you have a beefy Android device
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>>333513851
>Barely any tracks had radical difference to them, mainly Besaid island and that's about it.
They made shitty changes on literally almost every track. Kill yourself.
>b-but PS4 version
Good thing I'm not retarded enough to buy one to play PS2 remasters.
>And? You said that because KH remasters were the Final Mixes they were worth it but when this is literally the same thing it's all about "but emulation!!!!"
It's not the same thing, the KH1 final mix doesn't even have an english translation. Not too mention the soundtrack is actually better. BBS was also adapted to work with two sticks.
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>>333510467
I liked everything but the combat which was FF2 tier awful

You barely play the game and it feels like a shitty MMO
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>>333508364
FUCKING
YESSSSSS

FFXII was my favorite FF since FFIX.
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>>333514271
Yes, I know phones can emulate games. I'm asking specifically about what's going on with IX.
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>>333511381
>60fps
The game is locked to 30.
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>>333508364
>single player version of XIV
move along folks.
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>>333514271
Im just waiting for the Note 6 to release with all that RAM and its new processor and 128gb internal storage + my own 64gb cards so I can load up all my Wii and PSP games and hook up my game pad controller.
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>>333514308
Why are you stuttering? Are you okay?

>They made shitty changes on literally almost every track. Kill yourself.
It's clear you haven't listened to the OST then.

>Good thing I'm not retarded enough to buy one to play PS2 remasters.
Who said you were supposed to?

>It's not the same thing, the KH1 final mix doesn't even have an english translation
Are you an idiot? PS2 was region locked so it wasn't easy for US to get a copy of FFX either and FFX-2 Int. was never released in English.
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>>333508364
crossing my fingers and toes that its available for vita, too
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>>333508809
>International Zodiac Job System

Bull fucking shit. FFX/x2 remaster got International version. Stop spouting nonsense you cunt.

Keep the dream alive.
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>>333514472
IX on the phone is emulated. The source code is lost. It's IMPOSSIBLE for Square to wave a magic wand and fart out new source code for it that they can port to Android. If FFIX is running on something that's not a PSX/PS2, it's running on an emulator because it is literally impossible for it to not be running on an emulator and on a device that's not a PSX/PS2.
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>>333514538
>It's clear you haven't listened to the OST then.
It's clear you have hearing problems.
>Are you an idiot? PS2 was region locked so it wasn't easy for US to get a copy of FFX either and FFX-2 Int. was never released in English.
What part about emulation can't you understand? FF X-2 Int has an english patch.

I'm done wasting time with retards like you, honestly.
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>>333508364
Ewww. FFXII was lame.
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>>333514828
They lost the source code for KH1 and then just recreated the game basically. Such is not impossible, and its only a rumor that the source code for FFIX is lost.
It sounds like you're being speculatory rather than actually looking inside the phone version of the game itself to find out.
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>people unironically liking ff12

Your opinions are objectively wrong
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>>333514886
> FF X-2 Int has an english patch.
And? So does KH2FM.

>I'm done wasting time with retards like you, honestly.
When you have nothing for yourself but name calling and acting contrarian you don't really have a leg to stand on, familio.
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>>333514923
>says someone who wouldnt know a good game if it sat on their lap and pissed on it
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>>333515067
No you are
Do I have to write a 10 page essay on why FFXII is good to prove you people wrong? Because I can do it.
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>>333513657
>took control away from the player for the sake of creating classes that players could have already made themselves if they wanted to.
You mean they structured the game in such a way that it's more similar to FFI, a game where its replayability is through the roof because your party building choices stick for the entire game.
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>>333512217
You can put a fresh coat of paint on garbage & it's still going to be garbage.
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>>333508364
Please god let it come to the Vita

Portable FFXII is the thing I want
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>>333508364
>PS4 has a dedicated screenshot function
>take a shitty photo anyway
I call fake.
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>>333513078
>bringing age into it
What a silly notion. I'm 30 and it's my favourite in the series.
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>>333515153
Don't waste your time, its just more shitters being shitters. It is a fact that FFXII was one of the best FF games ever to be created. It had a universe based in Ivalice which is arguably the best FF universe and that's not saying shit about the mmoish gameplay, which was fun as fuck.

>the hardest boss in the game was that white dragon thing that could pretty much one shot you
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>>333515324
>because your party building choices stick for the entire game
But I'm doing that right now in my current game, with the original board. The game doesn't force you to acquire any license past the first accessory, nor does it force you to use any of the skills characters already have when they join your party.
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>>333514992
>and its only a rumor that the source code for FFIX is lost.
If they had the source, they could just render the backgrounds in 1920x1080 instead of taking the 320x240 backgrounds and putting them through a filter. That should be enough proof for you right there.
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>>333515674
Shit argument is shit.
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>>333515474
>mmo combat
>a good thing
wew lad
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>>333515789
Boy do I feel refuted.
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I don't care unless it has all the IZJS content and improvements.

IZJS is one of my favorite games. Going back to vanilla FFXII would be stupid.
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>>333515940
If you can't draw a distinction between player-enforced limitations and game-enforced limitations that's your problem.
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>>333515793
>he likes turn based combat and frame shifting battles that make it seems like youre in another dimension

No, you are the shitter.
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>>333517079
Nah just better taste then you, pleb
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>>333516561
the more I read about this job system shit the less I like. FFXII was way more fun when you could equip everyone with ultima swords and use any kind of magic you wanted to
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>>333517242
And yet you're in this thread. Amusing. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you what games you would recommend.
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>>333508364
>still no FF IX on steam
>FF X, X-2 HD not even announced for PC
>FF XII HD again only on consoles

why does SE hate money so much?
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>>333517719
Maybe they hate pirates more?
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>>333517719
>why does SE hate money so much?
Do you remember when Lightning Returns came out around the same time as Bravely Default, and the BD sales blew FFXIII-3's sales out of the water?

Do you remember when every major review site was saying "Yeah 13-3 is kinda trash 10/10 would buy again" and "Bravely Default is the best Final Fantasy game Square's put out in years and they didn't even develop it, and it's not even a Final Fantasy game."?

Do you remember when Square themselves said "These Bravely Default sales are unexpectedly high, and these Lightning Return sales or unexpectedly low. We certainly hear that the fans want, and we promise to deliver"?

Do you remember when they didn't deliver and went back to doing the same stupid shit again, like the butchered Android ports of the SNES games?

The worst thing Enix could have done was bought out Square, because now they're on the sinking ship too, even though DQ is still balling out of control in Japan, and Square doesn't want it released stateside because "it won't sell"

At least Nintendo knows what the fans want and dumps money on SE to localize their Dragon Quests sometimes.
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>>333510348
>>333510348
Square-Enix were the ones that screwed it up though. A Square Enix rep is the one that made the blog post that first said coming to Vita. Everyone else reported that it was coming to Vita from that post that they screwed up:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/06/10/final-fantasy-type-0-hd-coming-to-ps4/comment-page-3/#comments

>Posted by Sakura Minamida on Jun 10, 2014 // Senior Product Manager, Square Enix
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>>333518364
>At least Nintendo knows what the fans want
So more Mario and Zelda right?
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>>333518948
At least Nintendo KINDA knows what the fans want
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I lost interest in FF after 9. I've played every game up to 13 but for some reason I never got a chance to play 12. Is it better than 10 and 13? I hated those fucking games.
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>>333519226
>Is it better than 10 and 13?
>Are apples better than oranges?
Of course they are.
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>>333519226
12 is 11 but offline, and with Star Wars as the story. The main characters are unfortunately C3PO and R2D2, while the rest of your party is Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewy..

It's better than X when comparing the quality of writing and story, but gameplay can go either way.

If anyone ever tells you that 13 was better than 12, disregard their opinions about everything for the rest of the time that you know them. 13 is trash, and is Final Fantasy in name only.
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>>333512630
Bullshit.
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>>333520119
Sorry that you don't believe information that Square and Nomura confirmed and is easily available by a simple Google Search.
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>>333519585
So Fran is chewy?
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>>333520387
Balthier is a smooth talking, roguish airship pilot that only plays by his own rules, and may or may not be into smuggling

Who is his quiet co-pilot of a different race?
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>>333520557
Man I love FFXII
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>>333520796
I would buy it just to see bunny girl ass in HD.
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Will there be a trophy to get that bullshit lance?
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>>333521710
FFX HD had a trophy for dodging 200 lightning bolts and killing Penance, so it would be stupid for them not to poke fun at the Zodiac Spear
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Never played 12, one of 3 I haven't played (never got around to playing Japanese 2 & 3). It came out when I was trying to graduate and find a job, and by the time things settled down my ps2 was broken and I had bought a 360. Would love for it to come out with upscaled or updated graphics. I mean if fucking 10 can get a rerelease, this one should.
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>>333508364
i saw this a few months ago but it was MGS4 HD instead, fuck off you faggot
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>>333508553
It'll be the Zodiac Job System version.
Personally I don't see the point since it was released pretty late in the PSdubble cycle. FF12 wasn't exactly graphically weak, and HD doesn't feel like that big a step up.
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>>333522330
the zodiac system wasn't released in UK so it'll be a step up for me
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The real reason you want to play FFXII
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DO NOT BREAK THE POT.
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>>333510125
no, FUCK YOU
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>>333522727
I liked Ashe better. That miniskirt.
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>>333522727
The bunny girls in TA and TA2 were cuter
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>>333518364
>At least Nintendo knows what the fans want

Like unwanted spinoffs and shitty remakes and more censorship lmao
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>>333517719
I thought SE was in the middle of porting everything to PC because of their new found love of Denuvo
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>>333522890
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>>333522727
>>333522890
this
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>>333522914
TA?
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