The more sidequests in a game, the better.
Prove me wrong.
>Saint's Row past 2
>>333501353
Hey Nail, It all depends on of the sidequests take 2000 hours away from the game for what is essentially filler.
Hey just like most of the arc you where in huh.
In that case it's literally impossible for any game to be better than Skyrim.
Was Nail first official OC?
Other Namekians were kind of different, but this is just Piccolo with vest
ME2, literally sidequest the game, and it's worse then ME.
>>333501620
Honestly I never saw the point of Nail looking like Piccolo and the characters bringing it up. It had literally no relevance whatsoever.
>>333501353
>The more waste of time in a game, the better
Nah.
>>333501353
Skyrim has infinite sidequests.
>>333502382
>gameplay is a waste of time
>>333502382
>extra optional content is bad
okay
>>333501492
But those are procedurally geenerated.
>>333502585
>>333502585
>Repetitive quests where you always use the best tactics you have that are proven to be effective until you grow bored and tired of the gameplay in general before finishing the game
>"Good"
>>333502592
>Extra "content" that is clearly there for you to grind levels so you'll be able to advance further through the game's story and are pretty much obligatory if you want to finish it
>"Optional"
A good game doesn't need to waste your time with an infinite amount of needless sidequests to make up for anything. The less sidequests a game has, the better it is, as long as it isn't a shitty open world "game" which focuses on sidequests and distractions.
>>333503051
Again
>extra optional content is bad
>>333502585
>>333502592
>implying that the energy/money used to make that """"""""extra optional content"""""""" couldn't have been used to make something worth fucking while
>>333501353
Except the vast majority of cases, those sidequests are lazy as hell boring shit that could be generated in a spreadsheet program.
>>333503256
It is when it's shitty low quality content.
Would you rather have 30 cheap bags of chips or a full plate with your favorite cooking for satisfying meal?
Quality > quantity
>>333503683
>food analogies
>>333501353
I can't, you're right.
>>333503814
Fine.
Would you rather have an antivirus with a shitton of useless extra modules/applications for safe browsing/folder scanning/whatever the fuck else which clogs up your OS's processing and wastes resources you could be using for something else, or would you rather have an antivirus with only the essential options you'd ever need, free from any extra bullshit the developer would ever force on you?
>>333501353
>The more varied sidequests in a game, the better
Fixed it for 'ya, OP.
>>333503814
>>333503683
i don't know why i thought the food analogies thing was a lie, how goddamn sad
>>333504698
See
>>333504318
Also, would you rather have a dog and 300 fucking rabbits as pets or just the dog? Shouldn't be a problem to spend money on food or take all of them to the vet, right? The more you have the better, huh?
>>333505104
You're going through this much effort and being this mad because of extra things to do in a game? Why? Cause it takes up space? I aint got time to read your bullshit ranting when your first reaction to defend your opinion is an analogy.
>>333502265
I think it was supposed to be something about those 2 being the only warrior namekians left
>He wouldn't want a dog and 300 rabbits
>Not using the rabbits as food and selling rabbit feet good luck charms on the corner of a busy street.
>>333505846
sounds too much like a sidequest for that anon
>>333504224
I wish they would give you the option to skip side quests you did in ng+ i do not feel like killing worthless shit or collecting worthless junk a second time
>>333505454
Not him, but I'll try and clarify his point:
Your opinion assumes a naive world. It assumes that developers have no deadlines handed down to them from publishers. This is blatantly and demonstrably false.
From that perspective, sidequests can easily be viewed as "cut content" to an extent, because they require dedication and man-hours that could otherwise be focused on the core game.
This is only true to an extent, however. Because anyone who's worked on a team can tell you there's a saturation point where adding new manpower is more detrimental than it is helpful. At this point, and only at this point, if there is budget for it, the extra manpower should be dedicated to fleshing out the lore, backstory, world, etc. of the game via sidequests.
Note that the above is not necessarily my opinion, but the one I thought he was driving at with his shitty analogies. I dislike sidequests because they near-OCD. I hate when my questlog has incomplete shit on it.
>>333505454
>lel umad
So you don't have an argument. Thanks for accepting your defeat.
I just proved you wrong, OP. Your thread is shit and you should kill yourself.
>>333506356
>because they trigger my near-OCD
Fuck. I suck cocks today. Time for breakfast.
>>333501353
Get out of here Nail. Frieza will be here any minute.
>>333506434
So you just saw the word mad and went off on another tangent. K.
>>333506356
That i can understand, my OCD wont let me finish a game with unresolved quests.
>>333506669
>So you just saw the word mad and went off on another tangent.
Yeah, I don't have to put any more effort when the first retort you use is a greentext and the second is immediately "you are mad". You're not worth any more effort.
I'd rather have a great game done well and with little sidequests than a chore simulator. Not my fault your opinion and taste are both garbage.
MGSV
>>333506935
another tangent, keep going anon, i might actually read the next one.
>>333507126
(you)
So is Legend of Mana the greatest game ever?
>>333501353
Not if the side quests aren't enjoyable and optional content like a true ending are locked behind them
Example - Assassin's Creed 1
quality over quantity though.
>>333501353
Skyrim
>>333507742
>>333507742
thanks doc
>>333502265
>>333505789
So they wouldn't have to change Piccolo's design when they fused.
>>333501353
The same way randomly generated level design means infinite content, right?
>>333501353
Fallout 4 has infinite sidequests.
>>333501353
I don't give a shit about side quests. Every minute devs spent on them is a minute not spent on main story. Fuck you, OP, and fuck side quests.
so by that measure skyrim and fallout 4 are infinitely good
RADIANT QUESTS ™ = INFINITE QUESTS
>>333501414
I like the newer Saints Row games, though.
They're different, and I can understand why others don't like them, but I think they're pretty good.
>>333501353
The more FUN sidequests in the game, the better.
fix'd
>>333501353
Shadow of the Colossus
>>333511114
my sidequest with your mom was the sole reason why you were born so be grateful about it you little shit
>Skyrim
>>333501353
What do I win?
>>333515336I liked it. Especially the two dlc.
>>333515710
>world is governed by the fact that your destiny is inescapable
>player character can break these rules and alter the future
>instead of exploring these themes of fate and predetermination, story is just 'an ancient evil awakens'
Story had real potential but they dropped the ball hard.I really, really liked the Destinies system however. It's something more freeform/multiclass games need to implement.
>>333502382
but games are waste of time by definition
>>333517985
If you enjoyed the time you wasted then it wasn't wasted time. The sole purpose of your life as a person is to be happy, to be entertained.
>talk to some NPC
>hey, go find this guy and deliver this item
>NEW QUEST: FIND THE GUY AND DELIVER THE ITEM
>find him and deliver the item
>QUEST COMPLETED
>...
>speak to the guy you delivered it to
>hey, go deliver this thing to this other guy
>NEW QUEST ACCEPTED
>Sidequests offer side stories that complement the main story.
>Side quests occur throughout the game and not towards the end
>Sidequests give unique rewards not found in the main quests
>Sidequests are open-ended and continue after the main game is complete
Doing it right.
>>333501353
Not if it means the main quest is boring and short. I like sidequests as much as the next guy, but if they do nothing for the plot, then they need to strike a balance and make important quests longer. There comes a point where time could be time better spent on something else.
>>333501353
Wrong
I generally prefer less but more meaningful sidequests in a game. As in, it's something that you do throughout the whole game.
Its always the TYPE of side content it is.
I like the optional fights and things to do in Kingdom Hearts. Difficult optional boss fights, synthesizing and shit.
So by OP's opinion the ASS creeds games are the best games ever
>>333501353
Thanks doc
>>333501353
>Both Quality and Quantity sidequest and a quality mainquest.
>Ever existing together.
It is always a meaningless quest (MMO theme park kind), a meaningless story line or meaningless reward with QUANTITY sidequest.
Xenoblade side quest were shit.
>>333501353
I hate to admit this, but Nail is wrong.
