For those who have played it, is it better than 2 at least?
Yes my rankings
DaS1 = Das3 = BB > DeS >> Das2
>>333426441
Not as good as 1, better than 2. It is the most beautiful though, the first time you see Irithyll is amazing
>DS better than BB
this joke of a meme needs to go. Muh magic and muh shields and muh 50 different stats does not make the only thing that matters better: GAMEPLAY.
>>333427064
>the only thing that matters better: GAMEPLAY.
So Dark Souls is better than Bloodborne? Got it.
Its what 2 shoudlve been. Not as good as DaS1 and depending on your disposition towards these games now, not as good as BB. By that I mean if you are tired of Souls gameplay this will not offer anything new, its more of the same thing, but with that in mind, if you still like the Souls games then this will be an enjoyable experience for you, because its more of the same thing.
It's fucking great. I just hate that they brought the hornet ring back.
>>333427064
You're right gameplay matters most, thats why ds1 is still the best. Tradeborne's hitboxes are barely better than ds2, not to mention attacks still follow through if you land a parry, sending you flying in the other direction.
>>333426827
This is the most accurate ranking. You can shuffle DaS1, DaS3, and BB around according to your specific preferences for things such as speed, weapon variety, spellcasting possibilities, characters, etc. but I'd say that they all wind up pretty damn close in quality overall.
>>333427386
Nice weapon, Nameless King? The only boss I couldn't beat sadly, second form always beat my ass
All Souls games are clones. It's the same game. Pick one and play it. It's the same as all the others.
>B-but the 3 lines of dialog about "plot"!
Souls doesn't have a plot. It's an empty hole where a plot should be. It gets filled in by autistics with Youtube channels based on vague item description text.
>>333426441
I have yet to play it, but judging from everything I've seen and heard, I'm thinking it's going to be my new favorite.
>>333428220
If you're simple minded, sure.
>>333427221
>>333427387
you're an idiot if you think DS1 even comes close to BB in gameplay. DS1 feels like playing a character stuck in a swamp. Just awful compared to how responsive and good the combat feels in BB.
every weapon in BB is distinct and makes for a fun build, while DS has shit ton of weapons that's a complete waste.
>>333427064
Bloodborne is my favourite, but fuck off. People can like anything from the franchise more, you really shouldn't give a fuck, and don't give people a reason to shitpost about things in response to garbage comments like that.
guys how big is the wall of lothric? and do you explore the whole area the first time you get there or you have to come back to it later in the game? also, do you explore the big castle that you can see in the background?
Sony fags pleas leave. It has already been established that Bloodborne is about as good as DaS. Which one you like better is your personal preference.
OP is DaS 3 vs DS II.
But no you have to post your >never ever
bullshit in every FromSoft thread.
>>333426827
I agree with that, except for 3, so that makes me kinda hyped.
>>333430458
> It has already been established
by who?
>>333430458
>is it at least better than 2?
>yes, it is, its actually just as good as the other games!
>(You) dont bring those up SONYFAGS
Just finished it yesterday.
Yes, it's superior to DaS2 but the experience as a whole feels tiresome already, specially after BB.
BB was the peak of the series regardless of what any faggot here tells you.
>>333431129
Are the bosses all just 'wait until the last second, then dodge or parry' like all the DaS and BB bosses? Kinda wanted another DeS.
>>333430458
BB is on a whole different level above DaS tho
>>333428220
The biggest plot point in DeS is an item description about The Old One
>>333431387
BB somehow manages to be worse than DaS 2, a feat I previously thought impossible.
Getting rid of every playstyle except for evasive melee was a massive step back.
>>333431129
> whole feels tiresome already, specially after BB.
Is that just Souls fatique or is it just too similar to Bloodborne?
>>333426441
Don t you see?
The guy on the cover thumb up.
Go ahead. It s from software masterpiece.
>>333431591
Everyones favorites Souls is the one that most compliments their playstyle. Then theres faggots like you who just cant adjust to anything else.
>>333431591
Don't start this shit. Just ignore idiots instead of stooping to their level.
>>333426996
Is it tough having such shit taste?
DS1>DeS>BB>Ds2 DLC > Shit on a stick > DS2
>>333431591
t. assblasted PCuck
>>333427972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTD7Ppyoxyg
git gud
>>333431890
>guise do i fit in yet?
I have no idea what build to make. I really enjoyed using Simon's Bowblade in Bloodborne, and from some of the webms of Dark Souls 3, bows look really great. Especially since you can roll and then shoot right away. I've always been interested in that, as I always see gameplay trailers which show the character switching betweens swords, shields, two-handing, torches, magic, and even ranged weapons.
Is there some way I can competitively make a build that uses bows as a side option? As it goes on, I hate just focusing on Strength and melee combat, and missing out on half the game. I like a lot of variety, and when I last played Dark Souls 2, I made a Sorcerer. I don't like the overpowered ability of magic, but I enjoyed being able to use ranged and melee combat.
How are people playing it? Did it leak?
DaS2=DaS1>DeS
Gonna get a PS4 at some point for BB and DaS3.
>>333428604
anon, just because everyrhing is faster does not mean its better. ive played through bb only twice before getting bored, while ds1 ive beaten with about 7 diffrent characters. bb burns out its only real playstyle really fast, and thats it primary problem. its ultimatly very narow, and not even as in depth as das, des, or even des2 sadly enough.
Can i run through this entire game with a bow now?
This is an important thing for me.
Once i'm done my STR character i want a comfy playthrough. Simon's Bowblade did nicely.
>>333432226
The Japanese version has been out since March 23rd, a lot of people have beaten the game multiple times, including SL1 runs and speedruns.
>>333431629
might be a bit of fatigue for me. i completed BB along with the old hunters DLC then went on completing DaS2 again as i haven't played the SoTFS content, and then immediately i went on to finish DaS3.
i was disappointed of not having that sense of wonder and discovery of playing a souls game for the first time. everything will feel familiar with no surprises.
this is the first souls game where i just don't feel like going on to NG+ immediately after completing it, i might later on though if the DLC is good.
it's still a pretty good game, and i can see why people would consider it the best in the series
>>333432380
inb4 "every weapon plays completely different, therefore more build diversity"which isn't an entirely specious argument, there's clearly a lot of melee combat variety, but it's all meleeDaS>BB>DeS=DaS2
>>333426996
>Slashy
Wew, not even trying with this bait.
>>333426827
>>333427429
>>333430626
such obvious sony neogaf marketing cucks
can you possibly be more obvious?
bloodborne was mediocre, boring shit
and DS3 looks even worse
stop trying so hard
>>333426441
I think it is. It's more polished, the levels are huge, and the gameplay is much faster than DaSII. I really enjoy it.
The game definitely some weapon/magic rebalancing really badly, though. Straight swords shit out so much DPS it's ridiculous. Catalysts also aren't working properly and need to be fixed ASAP. Also, I think spell cancelling needs to be added back for the sake of Sorcerers. That or just a general boost of casting speed because DEX sure as hell does not actually make much of a difference to one's casting speed. Most enemies and bosses are very aggressive, like BB, but slow casting times and the inability to cancel one's casts make things incredibly difficult for Sorcerers. There's no reason for them to be gimped so hard.
>>333426441
It's what 2 should have been.
>linear, almost unconnected world design
>>333431129
BB was only good because they tooka risk and did something different, deviating from the formula, and it worked well.
It's fundamentally different however, and was in a lot of ways made even more casual.
>>333427429
Which one has the best combat system?
>>333433839
If you actually believe Dark Souls wasn't linear, you're retarded
It's gonna be nice not having to dump points into a useless trait again.
Is SL120 the meta again?
>>333434601
yes dark souls is so linear with how it forces you into 1 path at the start of the game and for the remainder
oh wait
retard
>>333434661
not necessarily, but that's the best bet.
Possible it could settle on 125 or 130, but 120 is a good place to start and see if it changes. It wont be lower.
150 is not going to happen though, that's where we'll have havel flipping mage meta.
>>333434661
SL75-SL80 is currently the meta in Japan, but that's probably not going to be the case elsewhere
only played ds1 which was really good, whats wrong with ds2?
>>333433839
you mean like das
>>333426441
Considering it's pretty much DaS2 if DaS2 was done right, I'd say yes. It seems more like a mixture of DeS and DaS2 with only the setting from DaS.
Are there fun and outlandish areas in 3?
Even DaS2 had some nice unique environments like Shrine of Amana, Black Gulch, Lost Bastille and Shulva.
1 had some nice areas too but nothing really "different" until Oolacile.
Also does this game have a Valley of Defilement v4?
>>333434821
Sounds great. SHame we can't keep it as low, because god forbid everyone learns to cope with not having 2000hp and stamina and learn to do more than spam R1s with cheese weps like in 2.
>>333434716
Yeah you're right, it forces you into two paths. the two fucking bells you HAVE to ring.
>>333434854
good bait
there's about 10 different first bosses outside the asylum, you can skip undead burg, head straight to sif and do the four kings as your 3rd boss.
In DaS 3 the progression is a straight fucking line like Bloodborne. Every level bar about 3 only has 1 entrance and 1 exit.
Definitely
>>333434837
It's better to pirate it real quick and form your own opinion instead of asking /v/. Only answer you're gonna get is that it's shit, but it's my favorite in the series.
>>333435059
Well, I hope I get lost less than I did in DaS2.
>>333434942
Hornet Ring exists and it's OP as shit. I'd rather not have a low level meta that allows you to be one-shot by backstabs/ripostes.
>>333434837
>very tight world design with pitfalls and shit in every room
>no wide open areas
>Adaptability determines iframes for dodge rolls, forcing people to pump points into to till at least 20
>quantity over quality boss design
>lot of bosses designed with coop in mind with little regard to people who solo everything
>a lot of enemy placement consists of cramming 5-6 enemies in a tight space or putting enemies in frustrating positions and calling the game hard
>>333434837
>Framerate issues out the ass
>Boss fights commonly have you face 2 or 3 bosses at a time
>Completely disjointed world design
From what I can remember. Haven't played it in a while, though.
>>333431591
PCuck here. Borrowed a PS4 to play BB and I enjoyed it because evasive melee is how I always play Souls games. The complete lack of build variety, however, meant I had little to no interest in PVP. But you can't deny the game had some great bosses.
I imagine if you liked other playstyles, Bloodborne would disappoint.
>>333426827
>DeS so low
Autism
>>333434925
>nice, unique environments
>Tomb of Giants, Duke's, Sen's, Anor Londo
>>333435124
Oh fuck. Why? Why would they do that?
I'm sure it'll get nerfed if it's that bad.
>>333435059
>In DaS 3 the progression is a straight fucking line like Bloodborne. Every level bar about 3 only has 1 entrance and 1 exit.
so it's just like Dark Souls 1?
>>333435124
low level metas are garbage simply because they are 1 damage stat metas which are boring and exclude using so many different weapons and weapon buff spells.
>>333435124
>backstab fishing will be back in full-force
Can't you break out of backstabs now though?
>>333432886
>being this butt blasted that people enjoy good games.
Have you considered suicide?
>Is it better than 2
Thats not a very high benchmark
I've herd sorcery sucks and pyromancy is OP, but nobody is talking about faith.
Are the miracles good, or fun? Or are lightning bolts shit ala DaS2 post nerf?
>>333435189
Dark cave
Library
Castle with traps
Castle with...sunlight
Tomb OG was pretty fun though.
>>333435260
>ringing Burg bell by going through Burg and Chapel as opposed to going through Valley of Drakes and up through Forest
>ringing Blighttown bell by going through Depths as opposed to also going through Valley of Drakes
Nice meme fuckhead
>>333427387
Bloodborne's hitboxes are EXTREMELY tight.
Fucking retarded shitposters.
>>333435146
Did you play with or without the DLC? I don't think even the most hardcore BBfag would argue the build variety is adequate in vanilla.
>>333435542
literally any new player will go Asylum > Burg > Parish > Lower Burg > Depths > Blighttown > Sen's > Anor Londo
nobody uses the key apart from meta fucknuts like yourself
>>333435595
As was the case in DaS2, it depends entirely on the weapon and enemy.
>>333435497
>Shrine of Amana
tedious, linear trudge through water while being annoyed by spamming mages
>Black Gulch
le ebin poison level with surprise enemies
>Lost Bastille
castle with meaningless rooms
>Shulva
literally worse than Catacombs
>>333435452
Faith is garbage.
Darkmoon Blade can be pretty amazing though.
>>333435657
>literally any new player will go Asylum > Burg > Parish > Lower Burg > Depths > Blighttown > Sen's > Anor Londo
that doesn't make it linear you fucking retard
>>333435657
>He didn't beat 4 kings before ever going to Anal Rodeo
>>333435595
>online play
>to show off hitboxes
How hard are you baiting, jesus christ
I fell for it too
>>333435542
Can you list me the many paths I can take to bed of chaos? How about nito? What about the entirety of oolacile? I can keep going if you like, the majority of DaS is Linear as fuck with the exception of a few areas
>>333435946
>being this delusional
have fun by denying facts
>>333435657
I picked thief as first character and used the key to get all kinds of weird places early.
Just because you don't explore doesn't mean other people don't either.
>>333431734
I platinumed the fucking game.
That doesn't mean it isn't the worst one by a huge margin.
The other ones you can do all sorts of different builds. Bloodborne only 2. The game is the worst of them all.
That will be 9.99 plus tip
>>333435793
>tedious, linear trudge through water while being annoyed by spamming mages
Balanced in later patches.
>le ebin poison level with surprise enemies
Not even a criticism.
>castle with meaningless rooms
Not a castle.
>literally worse than Catacombs
LOL
>>333436052
who are those semen demons?
>>333436073
>being this delusional
>>333435231
Dunno, but it needs to be nerfed badly.
>>333435286
Yeah, that too. I like hybrids.
>>333435334
Not necessarily. They're not as instant as DaSI, but they're still pretty fast. Hornet Ring just makes it a million times worse.
Ah, customers!
>>333432784
>DeS=DaS2
No fookin' way m80. DaS2 has trash PvE for the most part, whilst DeS has pretty fucking solid PvE. Considering that's the meat and potatoes of these games, I'd argue DaS2 is far worse as a result.
>>333432124
There's a stat called dex made just for you.
>>333435793
Not only was I talking about visual aesthetics, but your opinions are based on false information.
Watching ecelebs play something =\= Playing the game
Now go start your DaS2 playthrough before commenting on it again.
>>333432124
Go for a quality build, you can use any weapon with a build like that and be perfectly optimized for it.
Then you can just figure out what you like the most.
>>333426441
I heard it had a bunch of shitty/gimicky boss fights like the bed of chaos and dragon god. Is it true or just memes?
Man I fucking love this job
>>333436625
It's true. There's a massive dragon that stands still and dies to a single plunging attack
Honestly I don't care about any of the shitposting opinions. This looks so fucking fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXuFc50aFSI
>>333436048
Are you fucking retarded? Strength, Dex, Blt, Arc, with hybrid builds between them. There's a ton of build variety, just not as much as in the Souls games.
>>333435164
>DeS being better than D1, D3, or BB
At best you could say it's equal to Dark 1.
>>333436689
is that the art of the dude that made teahcing feeling? is that a new game or only pictures?
>>333436481
DaS2's PvE is decent, nothing special. Same with DeS. But the main thing that puts DeS on DaS2's level for me, despite the generally superior level design, is the rudimentary mechanics.
>no drop attack
>4 way roll
>shallow movesets
I've been doing a playthrough of every Soulsborne game in anticipation of DaS3 and DeS just feels really, really stiff and unpolished.
>>333435939
>he didn't go straight to Gwyn from Firelink Shrine the first time he started the game
L
O
L
>>333436980
>DaS2's PvE is decent
It's shit tier.
>>333436980
I was just trying to remember this guys name the other day.
Freakazoid.
Its Freakazoid.
Thanks anon.
>>333426827
I really hope that's true about DaS3
>>333437258
it's definitely much better than DaS2
>>333437178
Nah. It's got some clever placement, cool designs, and beautiful scenery. Yeah it's generally nonsensical, there's some buggy bullshit, and some of the design decisions are FUCKING GARBAGE (FUUUUUCK Ancient Dragon, literally the worst), but it still has variety and I had fun with it.
DeS is just really bland sometimes. I mean, geez, remember 2-2?
>>333435812
>Faith is garbage.
This ain't stopping me. Gonna roll a bobbed hair cleric with nothing but faith
>>333436980
Not sure I agree with you on the PvE with DaS2. Early game's all over the place, although it certainly starts to come together in the latter half of the game. Really, the thing that makes me put DeS above DaS2 is its level design (as you pointed out) and the more open ended approach you have for the game that is pretty much there throughout the entire experience (as opposed to just the first half of DaS2, which even then still funnels you gently down a certain path for the most part.) Plus the overall experience of DeS just feels a lot tighter than DaS2 to me.
>>333437518
I like 2-2's design actually. It really gives off the feeling of you exploring deep underground caves. Especially with the way you can get lost traversing them. I remember there being some bullshit with the enemy placement in those tunnels, though. So I'll give you that.
>>333426827
I haven't played DS3, yet, but I think:
BB > DaS1 > DeS > DaS2
I'm sure 3 will be fun, from what I've seen.
>>333437518
and 90% of the level designs are bland shit
>>333430875
>whom
>>333437870
The level design is good. One thing I feel DeS does that no other Souls game has managed to do is convey a sense of claustrophobia. Maybe it's just the camera placement, but it greatly enhances the experience in places like 2-2, 3-1, 4-2 especially.
But my problem with 2-2 specifically is it's basically filled with shitty damage sponges and it makes the spelunking super tedious.
>>333438245
>But my problem with 2-2 specifically is it's basically filled with shitty damage sponges and it makes the spelunking super tedious.
>I'm too retarded to find alternate paths MUST KILL EVERYTHING IN SIGHT LMAOOO
Does anyone know if the 20% Amazon Prime pre-order discount works for the Dark Souls 3 PC download? Or is that only for physical stuff?
>>333436841
Nigger, fucking please.
It doesn't matter what stat you max, all these "builds" play exactly the same: you roll around like a faggot and sometimes parry, the end.
>>333438435
How about making the bugbears actually threatening so they're a meaningful impediment to progress and not just a frustrating waste of time?
The red knight in 1-1 is a perfect example.
>>333426827
BB > DaS > DaS3 > DeS >> DaS2
Here is mine, though I'm only 25 hours into Dark Souls 3 and i like Lovecraft/Horror a lot which explains my bias for BB
>>333436048
0.5%
Now it's close to 8%
With how much effort and fustration you have to get through, im surprised so many people got the plat.
>inb4 no effort or fustration because git gud
>>333436689
can you post/link the uncensored?
>>333438583
Should tell you at checkout before you buy. Good question though.
>>333438110
who is a word and is properly used in that sentence
however you are misusing quotes, as i have never used the word "whom". check your grammer priviledge
>>333439229
It doesn't, then. I can get the PS4/Xbone version for $48 but the PC version is still $60. That's some bullshit.
Is the claymore still in?
>>333439068
It was easy as shit to get, though. The only tough part was getting to Queen Yarnham, and that's only cause the Abhorrent Beast was hard as absolute fuck. Also spider rape everywhere.
DaS > DeS > BB >> DaS2
DaS was perfection until Anor Londo and few places after.
DeS has the most interesting concepts and experimental approach.
I made a mistake of not playing BB in one go, and got bit bored of it. The combat is just same all the time, even if you use all the weapon attacks. The bosses are very similiar: aggressive beasts, long range, high damage and basically require dodging all the time.
DaS2 was ok but disappointing.
>>333426441
there's no better or worse. all three are shit to begin with
>>333439068
You can summon for everything difficult. If there were an achievement for finishing the game without using the bell, the percentage would be much lower.
>>333439880
Abhorrent beast isn't that difficult. His tracking is REALLY bad and he has no true aoe. Loran Darkbeast is much harder. The only way to kill it efficiently is to memorize the aoe electric explosion timing and dodge through it consistently.
>>333439653
Well, hell. I looked around a bit and was able to get it for $46 from some UK website. How is that even possible? I don't understand how these sites can sell shit for so low.
Random question, does dark souls 3 have the bone fist?
>>333435657
A friend of mine did
Asylum>Burg>Parish>Catacombs>Lower Burg>Depths>Blighttown>Depths>Lower Burgs>Burg>Sen
And I didn't find Queelaag by going the supposedly normal route, as I skipped Blighttown. And explored Darkroot before reaching Queelag.I had not understood that the door next to the merchant NPC in the depths could be opened.
>>333433689
>no spell cancelling
Disgusting. I was just running through 1 the other day with a friend and I mentioned that was one of the things 2 did right.
So for those who've tried it so far: can you soul/bonfire dupe?
>>333433689
>no hexes
>no spell cancelling
>slow
>magic shitters finally put back to their places
This game seems more and more promising.
ds3 =ds1>des>ds2>slashy souls> bb
>>333427386
so the pvp is still smooth i see
