this game is fucking boring
who the fuck plays these games? dads?
jesus christ
>plays worst cRPG ever made
>dude why is it bad
>>333407478
suggest a good one so i can call that a boring dadgame too, faggot
this genre shouldnt fucking exist
go read a book if this shit is what you like
i bet these are the same fatass nerds who bitch about fighting games and mobas because their fat lazy fingers can't handle it
I understand not liking the plot of PoE but if you don't even like the gameplay you're just playing the wrong fucking genre.
>>333406875
>he felt for the CRPG meme
>>333406875
90s games should stay in the 90s.
>>333407776
>gameplay
????????????????????????
There
is
no
gameplay
in
this
genre
>>333406875
amazing dialogue choices
>>333407657
>realizes he's fishing with a very specific kind of bait, and there may not even be a fish that likes it in this lake
>switches to more generic bait that more fish might fall for
Good move fisherman.
>>333408003
And then you just went full retard. I'm disappointed.
>who the fuck plays these games? dads?
Son Dad games are the ultimate games. When you grow up you'll understand.
u forgot ur ritalin little bro
>>333406875
well games tend to be boring when ever the devs are more busy with being lefty propaganda pushers then actually making a fun and good game
>>333408168
those "redraw the map of europe to your particular autistic liking" are the fucking bottom-of-the-barrel
the only people who play those games are fat dads, or autistic 19 year olds form /int/ and /pol/ who can't talk about anything but germanic/scandinavian history
ITT: underage kids with ADHD
>>333406875
>play good games but will probably have no kids
>other people play shit games like CSGO and will have kids
'Dad's' games my ass, the good ones will get forgotten.
>>333408374
sorry i can move my hands fast enough to fap, fatass
even the strategy elements of these games are fucking paper-thin
there's no reason for these games to be games. they should be books. bad paperback books sold on a shelf at target with tacky cover art.
>>333407657
ITT: "I've never played a game pre-2000." starter pack.
>>333408168
Dominions is chill as fuck. Fuck SC and thug meta online though.
>>333408410
>I'm too lazy and untalented to even get decent at CSGO so it's a shit game, also because the typical player seems more normie than me it's also a casual game even though I could never hope to be any good at it
I fucking love you, /v/, you're a riot
>>333408410
hey now, I enjoy playing both CRPGs and online shooters
>>333408563
Who are you quoting?
>>333408737
his insecurities
>>333408317
Shush now son. This is now a Dad Game General.
>>333408563
not even OP, but CS:GO is legitimately not hard. FPS's in the contemporary era aren't hard. All it takes is reaction times, where RPGs and any old-school FPS actually took either REAL tactics and skill or REAL reaction times and skill.
>>333408737
every /v/ thread concerning any competitive game ever
this board is casual as fuck and can't even see it
they think the mark of being a hardcore gaymer is having a huge pepe folder and posting on /v/ all day
>>333408864
where my dads at?
>>333408510
SC/Heavy Thug meta is dead in Dominions 4. It is too easy to kill them for the investment. Thugs are only good for raiding now.
>>333408864
>tfw dad doesn't play video games
>>333408868
>RPGs
>REAL tactics
name those RPGs, i need a laugh
also good job on pretending you ever played quake or unreal, that's another checkmark on my bingo card for "/v/ dads and casuals get mad at CSGO"
>>333408807
>>333408901
Don't forget to renew your Gamer Licence you pros.
>>333408563
As someone who put thousands of hours into CS and CS:Source I can tell you GO is complete shit.
It's only propped up by e-sports kids wanting to "Go Pro" and the russian mafia who use it to launder money.
>>333408563
I can't belive this fucking site anymore.
Is there one at least on single person that uses logic instead of just mental gymnastic and stupid arguments?
Seriously its like you are all fucking underage no wonder everything is going to shit, because you don't even think you just want to be right.
>>333406875
Maybe they should make dialog in pictures like in Hyper Light Drifter so even retards can play.
>>333408864
>>333408168
I really wish this game had real time battles. I would kill for a game like Medieval 1 with big multiplayer matches and battles.
>>333406875
all yall so easily baited baka fampai
>>333408997
I don't even have a gripe with CS:GO? It's just not actually hard in any manner. Quake 2/3/Arena took actual skill to maneuver and kill with a good K/D. Unreal/UT/UT'04 all took skill to "git gud" at. CS:GO or any modern multiplayer game, I legitimately have picked up in under 24 hours and can start pulling 3 or 4 to 1 KD's. No need to get in your chest over a casual MP-FPS.
And yes, RPGs as in anything pre-04 save maybe NWN2's expansion, took skill and tactics to play without a guide, which normies take in as the only way to beat anything with some thought or actual "roleplaying" in it. I'd say IWD is a good example of tactical combat. Anything Infinity Engine is pretty good, but Gold Box era and Daggerfall era games also require you to be not shit. Don't care if you're baiting or not, but if you think you're grand at games, beat any Gold Box game in a week without a guide and you could color me impressed.
>>333408168
I fucking love Dominions.
But goddamn if it doesn't need to be moreaccessable. The micromanagement is insane, and a ton of it is just plain annoying stuff too, like when your army breaks and units retreats into neighbouring provinces, so you then have to spend several turns training commanders, sending them to collect the deserters, and then move back to a province to regroup.
>>333409050
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Building_thugs_and_SCs
I don't know current meta, though.
>>333408961
You have good taste. It is ridiculous how every modern mecha game looks much better but lacks the same depth.
>>333409050
Dom4 introduced three major changes:
1) Research is much slower so by the time SC/thugs fully come online there are A LOT of mages/sacreds on field.
2) Elemental immunities were turned into flat damage reducers. 50% reduction now blocks just 5 points of damage, 100% blocks 10 and so on. This means high damage evocations can pierce through resistances. A lot of evo spam will kill a SC without extremely high resistance to the element in question.
3) Gem cost reduces reduce gem cost by a flat amount. Dwarven Hammer reduces the cost by 2 gems total. A 30 gem artifact costs 28.
Put together a SC becomes a nice complement for an army or a powerful lategame raider but cannot take on armies by itself. Thugs are primarily for raiding undefended provinces and aren't of much use in battle. Too expensive for what they do.
>>333409481
Or try The Neverhood without a walkthrough.
Jesus fucking Christ.
>>333409481
Even IE games have relatively little handholding compared to modern games. I hate how games nowadays highlight all your speech checks in RPGs so you can easily pick the win button and avoid every fight.
>>333409981
Point blank. Old-school adventures, especially text-based, are a real good 'actual' skill indicator.
>>333409915
Love 2 and 3 so much. There's some other old-school mechas that are great, but nothing that matches MW in pure mech combat.
>>333408961
My nigga. Me and dad played MW2/Mercenaries and Heavy Gear 1/2 all the time.
>tfw Heavy Gear and MechWarrior are dead
it time
>>333406875
Maybe you should just play other kinds of games then
>>333409915
When I was playing, I think the problem was everyone was playing nations with early SCs. It led to situations that if you weren't also playing that way the safest course would be for everyone else to hit you early. Maybe things were rebalanced since then. Also defensive use of thugs hit some pretty strong timings in the game. Small groups with regen could just hold out positions far longer than they should have been able to.
>>333410375
Being bad at videogames doesn't make you casual though.
>>333407776
>if you don't even like the gameplay
Combat was always shit in infinity engine games in general
>>333410563
It does in the sense that you're bad at video games.
/v/ is really desperate to redefine "casual" as "doesn't post pepes on /v/ all day " and thankfully the world ain't having it.
>>333410284
>we will never get a 1080P/4K MW game
>full customization for your and your squad
>access to all the clans and independent storylines
why live?
My first two games my dad introduced me to, even though they were before my era, was pic related and Zork. Gaming is a husk of what it once was.
>>333406875
what kills these games for me is the combat. Real time with pause is fucking trash
>>333406875
>>333410696
Except the very definition of a casual player is someone who plays just every now and then.
Hence, casual.
>>333410503
Well, you still have a lot of people running early SCs for indie expansion purposes but they can't really hold up to a group of elite troops, especially if those troops are buffed. You can't really put equipment on them and expect them to do any meaningful fighting without army support for the first 2 years and even after that due to the slower research and higher gem cost you can't outfit them to fight armies effectively.
The early game start nowadays is focused on blessed sacreds. The long con is running a scales pretender who can forge specific boosters. If you can hold out until mid game you'll pull ahead of the sacred-spamming dummies.
Thugs being able to hold ridiculously well is still a thing though. However Mage support tends to melt them.
>>333410919
If someone plays, for several hours a day, a highly-competitive game with a skill ceiling high enough for there to be multi-million dollar tournaments with hundreds of thousands of viewers, they're still a casual?
Methinks /v/ just doesn't want to admit -they're- casual.
>>333408563
>all this recent defending of CSGO
Is it just one guy who rushes to defend in every thread that criticizes it?
>>333411095
No but it's the same /v/irgin stereotypes that rush to criticize it on the basis that they can't be assed to get any good at it and deep down don't think they could
>>333411095
It's someone pretending to be retarded. Stop making off-topic posts. Post dad games instead.
>>333411040
Thats a massive jump over logic to reach that conclusion, so i can only give you a (You)
>>333411040
No, that person is not a casual player.
Stop thinking of the word "casual" as a insult and what the average /v/irgin says it is, and just look at the definition of the word.
My sister is a good example of a casual player. She plays one her cellphone when she's on the bus, she plays Cities Skylines for an hour or two per week and doesn't give one shit about gaming or its culture or news. She's a casual player.
>>333409481
>Goldbox game
>Infinity Engine game
>in charge of tactics
>in charge of gameplay
>games that consists of fighting trash mob over trash mobs
>games that difficulty is only about figuring how the broken items and tactics then spamming them
>games that demented faggots have to up the difficulty to max because there simply is no gameplay at all so they make their own - gambling style gameplay (where a few bad rolls will make them reload their saves.)
>core gameplay so simple that japanese mobile mobages have deeper gameplay
>shit graphics
>>333411661
>Stop thinking of the word "casual" as a insult and what the average /v/irgin says it is
But that's what we're talking about, you pedantic little shit. We're talking about how /v/ uses the word "casual" in a retarded way and why they're retarded for it.
>>333410284
>Heavy Gear
Sobek is my masculine waifu.
>>333410802
Same here anon, along with Prince of Persia and Karateka. Lode Runner had that level editor which offered nigh-infinite design opportunities
>>333410503
Also Forester thugs are now a meme.
>>333406875
>dadgames
Fuck off back to /mu/ kid.
>>333411738
What.
No, it all originates from this >>333410375 which states that...
You know what, fuck it.
>>333406875
>who the fuck plays these games? dads?
No, grand dads do
>>333411693
You're being a literal autist now, full of exuberant pedanticism. Yes, they both require tactics. Combat is relative to the situation (i.e. encounters and the enemies in them), your stats and armor, your combat readiness. Not having a guide makes it, surprisingly, actually a challenge sometimes. They require a deal more tactics, strategy, and skill than any modern RPG. Nice bait showing through with all the greentext though lol.
>>333411882
Love Karateka, anon, and LR's level editor was amazing as a kid. Had my dad make me up levels to test my skill.
>>333406875
Go back to Call of Duty then, you don't like it. No one's forcing you to play RPGs.
Here is a good review. http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9867
>>333413719
every single time. just fuck off
>>333413719
Why does codex trigger Obsidian fanboys on /v/ so much? They dickride every other Obsidian game.
>>333408563
getting good at anything means you have too much time on your hands. get some ambition faggot
>>333409823
But goddamn if it doesn't need to be more accessable.
STOP DUMBING MY GAMES DOWN FOR BABBIES
FUCK YOU RREEEEEEEEEEE
>>333406875
>Nah
>kinda
>is all
>dunno
>>333414106
I actually don't like Obsidian games that much. I just think the Codex has shit taste at games from after the year 2000.
>>333406875
>>333414295
m8 his complaints are pretty reasonable re: the micro stuff. A lot of it is mindless.
>>333414423
The character is supposed to be a dumb southern farmer.
>>333414423
It's called dialogue you dumb fuck
>>333414492
geam?
>>333414831
Terraria
It wasn't perfect but I liked this game a lot. Bundling up with this game and a cup of hot chocolate or coffee was so nice. Should I get the expansion?
>>333409259
Fuck I miss old simple campaign maps from Shogun and Medieval. Going 3D just piled all the unnecessary bloat.
>>333408168
I fukken love dominion, any other dad game you like?
>>333414492
What? You're pointing out you're going to kill HIM the moment he kills the hostage. What part confuses you?
>>333415180
The 3D maps added unnecessary complications to the campaign map that just made the AI perform worse while removing the cool shit from MTW like named officers and picking which side of a rebellion you wanted to fight for. They should have kept the 2D map and just fleshed it out more.
>Obsidian fans
>having sex
>>333407657
ah. neo-/v/ at its finest
>>333406875
E D E R
D
E
R
FUCKING HIM NEVER EVER
>>333415287
Wait for That Which Sleeps. There was a momentary panic it disappeared, but it turned out devs just went dark because they were focused on development.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb2uub1wn0s
>>333406875
your friend has garbage taste in games
>>333415180
>>333415374
Imagine Total War combined with a slightly toned down, streamlined version of Crusader Kings. GLORIOUS.
>>333407478
>>plays worst cRPG ever made
I would advise you to play some Lionheart. PoE is just painfully mediocre throughout, especially coming from Obsidian's Kickstarted game.
>>333415020
If you liked the base game you will most likely like the expansion. It adds more features and content and it's not expensive.
ITT: pic related
>>333415582
Will do, thanks.
>>333415668
what the fuck lol
>>333415681
The old campaign map style would already work great for big multiplayer games.
>>333415668
>no "[lie][lie]maybe" option
obsidian fucks it up again
>>333408997
divinity OS
>>333415287
I like most Paradox games. My own father is an absolute Age of Empires 2 fanatic. I heard good things about Ultimate General Gettysburg.
Only halfway a Dad game but if you liked Dungeon Master then Grimrock is pretty cool.
>>333415421
>shitposter
>hiving sex
fify
>>333415668
>not yes, no, maybe
>>333416031
I don't know
Could you repeat the question?
>>333406875
>implying dads don't have an inherently better idea of what a good game is and little cumstains like you shouldn't step back in line and learn to like it since you're just the squirt from our left nut.
>>333415990
>Only halfway a Dad game but if you liked Dungeon Master then Grimrock is pretty cool.
I will never understand why Grimrock, which was simply bigger and better original, flopped like a motherfucker. Then again so did M&M Legacy apparently so Grimrock was maybe a fluke and people don't really care about blobbers anymore.
>>333416241
I didn't play it because of spiders.
which was more disappointing?
pillars of eternity or age of decadence'
cast your vote now to win a free ipod mini
>>333414492
>[Charisma 18, Wis 8] If you kill your enemies, they win
>>333416241
You know what's funny? I actually liked the first Grimrock better too for some reason. I'm not sure why. Something about square-based navigation on open ground felt wrong. I know that's how things worked even in the old Wizardry games but still. I grew spoiled.
>>333406875
>1. Ask about embarrassing idea
>2. Ask about embarrassing idea
>3. Ask about embarrassing idea nicely
>4. Ask about embarrassing idea
>>333408317
>those "redraw the map of europe to your particular autistic liking" are the fucking bottom-of-the-barrel
You're autistic, but kinda on point. I'll never get over the fact Civilization series kicked off while Alpha Centauri, a far superior game at the time, just got one expansion. And don't fucking mention Beyond Civilization in my presence.
>>333416419
thanks trudeau
>>333416381
I liked Age of Decadence
>>333406875
>just four different ways of saying "tell me more"
What the fuck.
>>333416638
>And don't fucking mention Beyond Civilization in my presence.
It's not terrible.
>>333406875
I'm not sure if you know this, but they literally used the first draft of the script.
>>333416737
what other visual novels you into?
>>333416381
I thought Pillars was alright. I didn't like AoD but I expected nothing from it.
>>333416381
Pillars of Eternity was more disappointing but i still like it more.
I expected nothing from Age of Decadence.
>>333416638
Civilization is kind of entry level though. We're talking grand strategy rather than 4x.
>>333408168
I read this in Ron Swanson's voice.Holy shit I love Parks & Rec so goddamn much...
>>333415692
how? it is easily better than any of the infinity engine games expect maybe planescape in writing
>>333416925
EUIV is way easier than most 4x games though
>>333417223
Hmm.. I don't know if that's right but I'll admit that it is pretty easy. Harder than Civ 4/5, but still easy.
>>333417135
>it is easily better than any of the infinity engine games
Nah.
I guess it's better than icewind dale.
>>333417441
having extensively played all 3 games I can safely say EUIV is the easiest among them
>>333417556
Same here and I would definitely put EU IV above at least Civ 5, in which I once accidentally completed the one city challenge because I couldn't be bothered to expand. Civ 4 is more of an open question.
>>333409183
Source is shit too. 1.5 was the true CS experience.
>>333407657
>>333407657
KEK
>whines about baseless, boring games
>plays mobas
>>333417752
I've lost Civ V games, I've never lost an EUIV game due to my own fault (I have lost but that was playing as opm's and getting DOW'd by a large nation first month which you literally cannot survive through skill)
>Neo-/v/ tries the classics
These threads are hilarious every time I see them.
>>333406875
yes it's fucking boring as shit. the story literally makes me not want to continue playing the game continuously.
>>333408168
Holy shit, Dominions being posted on /v/. And here I was just taking an excursion outside of /domg/ to see what /v/ was shitposting about these days.
>>333416031
FYI, those are truncated in this instance. He doesn't think you're real people and you're figments or ghosts. The lie yes is that you're real like ghosts/monsters. I remember that part.
>>333418052
>PoE
>classic
>>333407657
you should play the kill yourself game senpai
