Megaman Legends is shit
>Annoying text boxes that ruin gameplay
>Awful controls
>Shopping stages
>No original Megaman format, Legend of Zelda wanna be
Yeah, I watched that AVGN episode too.
>>333394726
was just about to say exactly this
you're not clever or original op
So what's the story with these posts today
>Non-adventure games that go to an adventure format are now 'Zelda-like'
>>333394845
AVGN released a special 10th anniversary video.
During one part he insults Mega Man Legends.
Cue /v/ autism.
It was. The praised one was Megaman Legends 2, which was great.
>one of the best examples of an original spinoff
>great dungeon crawling mechanics that reward exploration with weapons and upgrades
>large scale boss fights
>a world rivalling that of OoT with character to match
Ok.
What's a shopping stage? And your last point is just pointing out what it is.
Do you play Madden and turn it off because it's not baseball?
>Megaman
>No Dr Wily or Robot Masters
>>333394609
To be honest, Mega Man Legends wasn't that great.
Oh sure, it was the first one to do really decent 3D controls with a moveable camera on the PS1. And yes, the cast of characters and voice acting were great. But the controls themselves were fairly awkward, lock-on was spotty for anything other than kiting, and replaying it the dungeons did feel kind of dull.
It's still a decent game, 7/10 or so, but it's not the amazing quality that most people remember it to be.
>>333394609
What is it like not having an opinion until somebody on the internet tells you what it is?
Megaman Legends is such a gorgeous fucking game.
>>333397364
looks like shit
Lockon Circle Strafe: The Game.
>>333396304
Fixed the lock on and the LR turning in 2.
Everything about MML is cool except actually trying to play it
>people claim it's trying to be OOT
>it came out before OOT
I hate Zelda fanatics.
i actually loved all the quirky MML stuff avgn complained about in his recent vid. Otherwise, Legends 1 does kinda suck, at least from a gameplay standpoint.
Legends 2 is gotyay status tho
>>333398410
Fucking christ, this.
Even Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon came out before OoT and it shit all over OoT.
>better depth, better puzzles, better story, better bosses
>most recent entry to konami's literally who game from the SNES (that is, to us westerners who never had super familams)
>This was the most time-consuming AVGN episode to make, at 138+ hours of work. It beat the record, previously held by R.O.B. at 122+ hours.
Holy shit.
>>333397461
Ur mums shit m8
So AVGN is bad at MML and that's why he hates it? Literally switch the controls and it's perfectly fine.
I really enjoyed this game as a child and then replayed it like three years ago and enjoyed it even more
>>333400389
He didn't even record beyond the tutorial, bro.
>>333394609
Shit? no. It's a good game. It has a lot of charm, but also has some problems. If you stick with it, you will have a good time, But it's understandable if you cannot get past things like controls. However to call it shit is ludicrous. You don't have to like the game, to admit it's a decently made game, that just might not appeal to you.
I fucking knew this would happen.
Fuck you.
>>333400716
That beginning dungeon was the tutorial, he totally recorded past it. That's irrelevant though, as you can change the options as soon as you gain control.
>>333400965
>But it's understandable if you cannot get past things like controls.
I never accept this for any game. Unless the controls are literally unusable, anyone with a functioning brain should be able to adapt to them within 5-10 minutes.
>>333401068
Tutorial isn't over until you get into the City proper.
>>333401334
>mfw people complain about tank controls
It really really deserved to be made on better hardware with analog sticks in mind.
I FUCKING HATE YOU ECELEB PARROTING FAGGOTS LEAVE MY FAVORITE GAMES ALONE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Roll talking is in the fucking tutorial and it's like 6 times at best
Moving around with the L buttons takes 3 minutes tops to get used to
You're in a fucking city and the only shop you fucking need to go is the one that sells parts
Did anyone even make use of special weapons against Juno?
The buster was always enough for me to hit him with reliably.
Didn't Legends have lock-on?
>>333402456
The first game had a lock-on of sorts. It would center the camera toward whatever enemy was closest to you, but it would also lock your movement and force you to stand in place.
The second game changed that so that you could move while locked on. It also added a little targeting icon to indicate which enemy you were locked onto.
>>333402451
I just held Right, L1 and shot her.
Can't touch you.
I want a new game
>>333402848
>her
>>333402848
>her
>>333402848
>her
>>333402890
Fuck no. I want a real 3D Mega Man, not this baby shit. BAAABUUU, like fuck this.
>>333403061
>>333403064
>>333403093
Fuck off Carbons
>>333394726
>>333394813
>people are finally saying this because AVGN said it just now
baka fuck the internet, if the game just didnt control like shit it'd be top tier, we'd probably be playing like the 6th one right now.
>>333403193
You first, Juno.
>play mml1
>beat the game in 38 hours
>play mml2
>beat the game in 6 hours
>>333403226
It's why Silent Hill sucks too, right?
>>333403226
Change strafing to the shoulder buttons you cock.
I don't like this game that much, but I never had any problems with the controls.
>>333403302
the controls work fine in Silent Hills environment,
the first boss in MML is retarded because of the controls
Friendly reminder that Mega Man Legends 2 was released on PSN yesterday m8's, I never beat it but the controls and gameplay is so much better, but that voice acting is shit.
>>333394609
So you have seen the new AVGN episode too?
...Huh
>>333403575
I wish we retained Mega Man's voice actor from the first game. I think most of the major characters besides him kept theirs though.
>>333403575
I love MML1 to death, but MML2 really did up the ante. The biggest thing was making it harder, because holy crap, MML1 was baby mode easy.
>>333394609
I honestly do think MML would benefit from free movement and Z-targeting. It would have been the Dark Souls before Dark Souls.
>>333403575
r u fokin serious m8? if this is true im gonna go buy it right now
>>333403226
he worst part is avgn kinda says is a good adventure game but not a megaman one.
>>333394609
Your opinion is shit. I'll kick your mangy ass like I kicked those shitty dogs in the old town section.
>>333403295
the story to legends 2 didn't lend itself to have one big hub city filled to the brim with characters, secrets, and different sights to explore like legends 1
instead legends 2 just had several smaller towns with less depth character, and memorability almost no reason to come back once you beat the main dungeon aside from mini digsites, and story revisits
I liked shit like the first snowy town and nino city
but the forbidden island was dissapointing as fuck and the cities themselves didn't really come close to character of sub cities by them selves in my opinion
>>333403954
Other way around, MML2 was strafe: the game (except the ice boss and only the ice boss) while MML1 actually expected you to stand completely still and tank hits.
>>333404054
capcom added z-targeting mechanic for the sequel at least
>>333404061
Absolutely, have fun buddy.
>>333404293
Did you never try running and gunning? In Mega Man Legends 1 every single boss, aside from ones like the big frog robot and the battle against the Gescelschaft where you're confined to one spot, could be beaten by running in a circle and shooting. Even Juno goes down to it really easily, both forms.
>>333404521
To be fair I only played MML1 once while I played MML2 like 8 times.
>>333404691
Pretty much the other way around for me.
>>333404174
I agree with you, I wish that the towns in Legends 2 felt as developed and involved as Kattleox Island's town was. Granted, yeah, because of the way the story was set up, things got spread around a lot, which was unfortunate.
It was sort of neat to visit different environments though. I always give Yosyonke's music a listen whenever it snows around here.
I heard Megaman 64 was pretty good.
>>333395495
>he had aspbergers this entire time
>>333394609
I actually completed this as a kid.
At first I thought the controls were clunky, but I got used to them.
The only lingering complaint I had was the shitty "fog" that was always there. Which today I understand to be view/render distance.
>>333406965
>I actually completed this as a kid.
Everyone completed this, AVGN is the only buttflustered cuck that whined about it and jumped into "MEGAMAN DOESN'T NEED SUPPORT CHARACTERS EXPLAINING MECHANICS" meme
He really is the Angry Nintendo Nerd
>>333407449
Most of AVGN's videos are cringe
Only reason he has subs is because his account is so old. Most subs are probably inactive.
>>333407449
>MEGAMAN DOESN'T NEED SUPPORT CHARACTERS EXPLAINING MECHANICS
He doesn't. Bringing gameplay to a dead stop and holding your hand so you don't get lost just to tell you something that you can read in the manual is stupid. Calling it a meme doesn't magically make it invalid.
MML1 is better than OoT
Fight me, bitch.
Nigga, didn't even get to play MMX8.
>>333407780
It's the tutorial level
They're introducing characters
After the NES no dev ever has expected every single player to read the manual and know what to do.
He's using the momentum of the X game's dialogue to bash Legend's perfectly fine 6 screens of tutorial.
>>333408140
>After the NES no dev ever
Cool. A tutorial level should be natural, so if you know what to do it doesn't become a slog. Forcing the game to a halt is bad. It's bad design.
Stop getting your panties in a bunch, I'm not saying the game is shit. That segment is correct, though.
>>333407780
>>333408368
While I agree about the tutorial thing, nearly every game of that era suffered from the same problem. Mario 64 had tutorial boxes too. Even Super Mario World did. No one encountered control schemes or 3D spaces like that before. Each time a new generation begins you encounter a similar trend. It wasn't until 6th or 7th gen or so when the tutorial shit got really out of hand.
>>333394609
It was kinda shit tho, he was right about that. Clunky combat and controls. It did what it could for being PSX but that doesn't make it a great game.
>>333405257
Mml was still great though, huge improvement on the controls also, fuck that quiz segment
>>333408767
the saber wasn't even that great, although it was a lot better than the one in the first game
>>333394609
Control wise, it does not hold up too well.
I just switched turning to the D pad and L/R to straffing and it helps aliviate the controls.
Legends 2 improved it. Still not as good as it could have been, but it's serviceable for a PS1 game
>>333408970
Sorry I meant mml2
ITT newfags
>>333403748
20 months is a slap on the wrist. It's amazing he didn't get 20 years like most people guilty of that get.
>Complains at the tutorial stage
There's a reason why the tutorial exist on the first place, it was the first Mega Man game that start the transition from 2d to 3d
It's obivous to not make anyone confuse on the first sight seeing 3d Mega Man game
>>333400021
If only the parts where he talked about games werent so shit.
