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>95 JRPGS on the PS3
>Only 5-10 of them even worth playing

http://www.listal.com/list/jrpgs-on-playstation-3

What happened /v/? PS2 was chock full of great JRPGs.
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>JRPGs are good
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>>333393246
Japan couldn't adapt to HD game development until the end of the PS3's lifespan. Most people lost faith in the genre by then.

This gen is likely their last chance.
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>>333394009
Football channel is that way broham.
>>>/out/
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>>333393246
PS1 and PS2 JRPGs had normal turn-based gameplay with a menu to pick your command, HP and MP and items, party members, a world map, etc. basically following the steps of the original JRPGs from the NES era.
Almost every JRPG on the PS3 had some stupid gimmicks, like having action points, doing "combos" by spending points to use multiple commands in a row, having no item, having no equipment, having no world map, etc. etc., basically straying from the original formula to produce some half-baked action/rpg hybrids and stuff like that. On top of that, a lot of them had less mainstream appeal due to the more anime artstyle and character designs/personalities.
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>>333394414

I prefer to play video games instead of watching them m80.
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>>333393246
Pretty sure developers opted for the PSP instead
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>>333393246
>95 JRPGs on the PS3
>none of them are even worth playing
There, fixed it for you.
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>>333394490
Legend of Legaia had combos and it was great
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>>333394490
>Having gameplay is a bad thing.

How hypocritical.

>Almost every JRPG on the PS3 had some stupid gimmicks, like having action points, doing "combos" by spending points to use multiple commands in a row,

Their PS2 successors did the same thing. Tales of Xillia is no different from Tales of Eternia when it boils down to the fundamentals. You just sound mad.
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>Tales of Xilia 1/2
>Demon Souls
>Dark Souls
>Final Fantasy 13/13-2/13-3
>Tales of Versperia
>Folklore
>Disgaea 3/4
>Trails of Cold Steel 1/2
>Eternal Sonata
>Valkyria Chronicles
>Atelier Rorona/Totori/Meruru/Ayesha/Escha&Logy/Shallie
>NieR
>Drakengard 3
>Ni No Kuni
>Resonance of Fate
>Dragon's Crown
>Dragon's Dogma
>Kingdom Hearts HD Collections


I dunno about you guys but I was perfectly happy with the amount of qualitt JRPGs I ended up getting on my PS3.

May not have had as much genre defining stuff as the PS1/2 era but it was still pretty great
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>>333394490
>Wanting boring turn based menu hopping instead of fun hack and slash fluid combat.

Holy fuck get out gramps.
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>>333393246
>mfw the 360 has higher quality jrpgs than this
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>>333393246
Why is that list out of order?
Higher rated things are lower on the list for some reason.
Also seriously, the best RPG on the PS3 is Nier. Play Nier OP.
>>333394009
Yes
They are
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>>333394703
I've never played it. Regardless, it's a really obscure title, so games imitating it wouldn't get popular either.

>>333394894
>>333395001
I'm not talking about actual action RPGs moron. I mean turn-based games who try to insert a combo system. There's nothing fluid about FFXIII or Cross Edge.
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DRPGs >>>> JRPGs
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>>333395095
Just Lost Odyssey.
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Jrpgs moved to hanhelds with the rest of the Japanese industry
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>>333395149
Because the list is in alphabetical, not ordered by rating

Musous are JRPGS?
also from what I can tell there's only 85 games on that list? I don't know I'm not good with these kinds of sites
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>>333395000
>Tales of
Good.
>Demon souls.
DaS is better.
>Dark souls
Good
>Final fantasy anything past 6
No.
>Folklore
No
>Disgaea
Bad tactics weeb trash, Fire emblem and FFtactics are better wastes of time.
>Trails of cold
Legend of heroes is better.
>Eternal sonata
Worst combat system in existence, also goats
>Valkyria
On PC.
>Atelier-
No no and NO. PS2 is as far as that shitty series goes. PS3 games rape its corpse worse then sega does sonic
>NieR
>RPG
>Drakengard 3
>RPG
>Ni no kuni
Great story and visuals, and nothing else.
>Resonance of fate
Complex gun controls that were fun for nobody and needless hex grinding just to advance. bad game design at its finest.
>Dragons crown
Tits =/= good game
>Dogma
>ALso on PC and better.
>Kingdom hearts HD
Thats a PS2 collection with some movies anon. not PS3.
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>>333395205
>There's nothing fluid about FFXIII

But that's wrong? Swapping between paradigm setups, timing out attacks to juggle enemies, stringing debuffs/heals/buffs/aggro-drawing together to keep the advantage, etc. was all incredibly fluid

I mean you can call it shit if you want but it was definitely fluid
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>>333395000
Souls and Nier aren't JRPGs
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>>333395379
Point?
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>Dark Souls
>JRPG
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>>333395442
>>333395527
>RPGs made in Japan
>Not JRPGs

inbr 'hurrrrrr its a genre despite the fact it makes no sense to try to categorize it as one durrrrrr'
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>>333395389
The time it attacks for an attack to come out depends on a character's distance from the enemy, even tough you have no control over your character's movement on the battlefield, and you have no control over your party members save for giving them orders. It's a terrible system to implement juggling into.
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>>333395527
>>333395442
Its made in Japan and its an RPG. That's literally the only sensible definition for the term.
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>>333395578
You don't call it a Japanese FPS just because it's made in Japan, dingus
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>>333395379
Literally no one could give a fuck what you think about those games.
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>>333395748
So you're saying we shouldn't call them JRPGs at all?

I agree, anon. It's a silly term with no real definition or meaning.
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>>333395578
Its not an RPG period. Its an action game.

Equippable armor, levels and stats does not equate to RPG. Castlevania has all of this, and last I checked, Castlevania isnt an RPG

Dark souls is literally a 3D castlevania. There is no RPG in it.
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>>333395578
>>333395679
Why do we not call Japanese racing games "JRacers" and western ones "WRacers"?
Why do we not have "JPlatformers" and "WPlatformers"?
Why is the distinction only made for RPGs?
Because the J and W isn't actually used to describe where it comes from, it's used to describe how it plays. The naming was only chosen because how it played usually corresponded to where it was made.
It's the same reason Marvel vs Capcom is called an anime game even tough it has an american comic book artstyle. Because it PLAYS like an anime game.
Video game genre are used to describe GAMEPLAY, not ORIGIN or ARTSTYLE.
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>>333393246

The switch to HD and demand for better graphics from consumers meant longer development cycles and bigger budgets. Games with unique premises and gameplay where deemed too risky to put on HD consoles so smaller devs shifted focus to handhelds while the big companies with name recognition stuck to consoles. The most hyped up JRPG's coming to ps4 are:
Persona 5
Star Ocean 5
Final Fantasy XV
Dragon Quest XI
Tales of Berseria

They're all numbered sequels with the exception of Berseria which has the recognizable "Tales of" prefix.
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>>333393246
>Only 5-10 of them even worth playing
You accidentally added "5-1" there for some reason. You should proofread your threads before posting them.
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>>333395979
You forgot Nier Automata
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>>333395352
>Nier
>a musou
You're thinking of Drakengard anon. Nier is not a musou
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>>333393246
>tfw own half of those
>have only played 1/3
>bought a PS2 recently
>planning to get a PS4 soon
what a time to be alive
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>>333395748
But people do call them Western RPGs just because they were made in the West :^)

>>333395931
Sure because Fallout 1 and The Witcher and Mass Effect 2 and Bloodlines and Wizardry all play the exact same.

Same for Dragon Quest 2 and Tales of Vesperia and SaGa and Disgaea 4 and Etrian Odyssey and Ys VII.
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>>333395979
>no Kingdom Hearts III
>no Nier Automata
>no God Eater 2
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People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games.
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>>333394490
Why are you make it sound like this game wasn't good?
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>>333395931
>Video game genre are used to describe GAMEPLAY, not ORIGIN or ARTSTYLE.
If you actually believed that then you'd not try to claim either WRPG or JRPG are genres lmao

>>333395916
Pretty sure a lot of people consider those sorts of Castlevania titles to also be RPGs

In either case you're an idiot for trying to argue Souls games aren't
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>>333396258
God Eater 2 is only a JRPG if you consider Monster Hunter one.
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>>333396172
>planning to get a PS4 soon
Make sure to wait until E3.
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>>333396293
You couldn't be more wrong.

An RPG is the closest "Video game" to a Book out there. You pick it up, play it, enjoy it then put it away and pick it up again when you feel like reading.

Not every game has to be inherently playable for weeks and months before you get bored of it. Quite frankly RPGs are better for that because you never get bored of them.

I've gone back and played FF6, SMRPG, Tales of Phantasia and Valkyrie profile more times then I can count, each over 10+ playthroughs in my life. Doesn't mean its all I play.
'
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>>333396158
ah sorry, that comment was in regards to the actual list, not your post.
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>>333393246
Majority of those great rpgs on the ps2 were made by small dev teams fighting for the moolah of a bigger publisher when the whatver the greats were considered( Squenix?, Namco? Ect.) were resting on their horses. Competition, as well as constraints, is why Rpgs of all kinds were flourishing starting from the Genesis/MD and Snes, all the way up till the launch of the 360, Ps3, and Wii. Not able to meet the graphical demand among whatever else that those smaller devs had to deal with for the consoles, they instead moved to portables. DS and the PSP have a great selection.
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>>333396412
Mon hun IS a JRPG. Capcom outright said so.
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>>333395379

>Resonance of Fate
>complex

Anyone who actually played the game for more than a couple hours would be able to tell you how wrong you are. You litterally just spam hero actions have your machine gunner jump over enemies to target all parts and then finnish them off with your pistol/grenade guys. That shit where you launch enemies in the air can be achieved by running towards enemies and spamming your gun until they launch and the ground slamming thin is you jumping at the end of the run to shoot the airborned enemy to the ground. The combat is ludicrously simple, it's just the tutorial that intimidates people.

>Ni no Kuni
>great story

No. The game is dogshit, all it has going for it is visuals.

>Dragon's crown

It's a legitimately good game, the cheesecake is just vanilla-ware being generous

>Trails of Coldsteel
It's got all the hallmarks of the series but in 3d. It's a worthy sequel and you feeling another was better doesn't make it a bad game.
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>>333396564
>An RPG is the closest "Video game" to a Book out there.

Visual Novels exist senpai
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>>333396338

It wasn't good. Once you figure out how the combat works every fight is the exact same thing. There's only a handful of fights that require any strategy beyond "spam tri-attacks". It might have been better if they had fewer, more challenging fights instead of dozens of trash mobs that serve no purpose other than to increase your numbers, but Tri-Ace doesn't really know how to think outside the box.
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>>333396145
>>333396258
Isn't Nier Automata a hack and slash game like DMC / Metal Gear Rising etc. Doesn't seem like a JRPG but I'm hyped.
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>>333396846
Resonance of Fate is pretty fun but gets stale quick because of what you explained and yet I love the fact that a lot of people didn't like it because it was "too complex". I personally know 3 such people.
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>>333396846
I wouldn't say NNK is dogshit.

Its just the most mediocre game I have ever played.
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>>333396551
because of the 4.5 meme?
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>>333393246
>What happened /v/? PS2 was chock full of great JRPGs.

Not really. It was only a handfull of good ones there too. The distribution was shit too, it was like 80% atlus and square having a field day on it with the occasional literal who game
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>>333397115
Its unknown

It might be an ARPG, it might not
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>>333397060
spotted the baby that never played the ex-dungeon
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Higher production cost
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>>333397342
But there have been videos of the combat and it looked like a hack and slash. Though I guess it's kind of a blur where you draw the line between that and Action RPGs. Like if DMC got quests and stats would it be an RPG immediately.
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>>333397558

>You don't know shit because you didn't finish this one dungeon full of recolors at the end of a game of piss-easy garbage.

Nah, fuck off.
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>>333395379
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>>333397668
Nier was a bullet hell / text adventure / horror / rail shooter / puzzle game at times.
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>>333394009
Worst fucking meme ever pushed on /v/.
Just like every other genre, JRPGs are 90% garbage.
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>>333395000
eternal sonata was not very good

folklore isnt really a jrpg
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The problem I have with JRPGs nowadays is no memorable boss fights or villains.

I'm tired of every boss I go against being some unforgettable fuck who has no redeeming qualities or interesting moves.
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>>333397878
I would hope Automata to be similar to the original, just with improved combat slapped on top of it. However since it's Platinum only instead of co-developed I doubt we can expect too much. Probably will be similar to MGR in that the gameplay is just progressing through areas and kicking ass.
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>>333395379
>Atelier
>No no and NO. PS2 is as far as that shitty series goes. PS3 games rape its corpse worse then sega does sonic

Let me cure that ignorance. The PS3 games are a return to roots. Atelier Iris 1&2 on PS2 were the only ones that were more in the style of classic JRPGs with emphasis on story and adventure instead of crafting.
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>>333398317
>instead of co developed

Cavia and Taro are heading it, its the same team as before. platinum is just the "New young hotshots" working with them.

>>333398117
Worst fucking meme ever pushed on /v/.
Ironically hating video games like 90% of the rest of the boards.
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>>333395379
>No no and NO
autism speaks.
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>>333398595
Crafting is the only noteworthy thing Atelier has ever done, and Ar Tonelico did it better.

>>333398706
And it's time to listen motherfucker. Atelier is a bad series, and you need to wake up and smell the salts.
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>>333398895
>Ar Tonelico did it better
AT1 and 2 were just a simplified Atelier crafting system you dolt.
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>>333398623
It's kind of confusing because every piece of info only mentions Platinum as dev and Squeenix as publisher but I see now it's because Cavia has been dead for a while so any ex-Cavia members working on the game kinda go unmentioned.
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>>333399118
So? Grathmedling is still more fun.
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No, the PS2 was chock-full of jrpg's. None of which were any good.
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>>333398895
Pretty much all of the PS3 ones had their own crafting system though. I bet you played like one of the games and decided they are all shit. Also the overall mechanics all got better over time and imo peaked around Escha & Logy. In Shallie they removed all time constraints which had been incredibly lax for many installments at that point because people kept complaining which made the story flow really poorly since there's no sense of time.
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>>333395205
>LoL
>obscure
You don't really know anything about JRPGs
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>>333399512
>I bet you played one of the games

Fuck no, I aint touching that loli shit
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>>333395095
no it doesn't
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>>333393246
Ninty-five Japanese role playing games are on the PS3. Five to ten of them have improved versions on the VITA.

>>333397324
Bought a PS4 a couple weeks ago. The game bundles all include the annoying launch model with the jet engine for a fan.

Nights of Azure sold out in a week. While some of the June blockbusters most likely won't, due to having non-scumbag publishers, who is to say what the availability will be by the time you do buy a PS4.59303.
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>>333399673
Ah, so you were just wasting my time. Mission accomplished.
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>>333399673
>"PS3 Ateliers raped the series"
>No, they returned it to being more about crafting
>"Crafting is the only good thing about Atelier and Ar Tonelico did it better!"
>Did you even try more than one PS3 Atelier, they all have unique crafting systems
>"I didn't even try 1"

Classic /v/.
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>>333400558
I'll be here all week.

Truth is I love the Altelier series
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>>333395379
did you even play Folkore before?
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but dark cloud 2 is the only jrpg on the ps2 worth playing
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>>333401089
>Steambot chronciles
>Okage
>Rogue Galaxy
>...Dark cloud?
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>>333401089
>Dungeon crawling RPGs
>Good at all
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>>333393246
>10 JRPGs isn't a decent amount
Jesus dude, talk about rose-tinted glasses. At most that's how many worth playing the PS2 had too.
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>>333397815
Too bad because the general consensus was that the game was too difficult. Guess you're a special snowflake because the bosses were actually challenging and a lot of the dungeons in the main story required you to be smart about jumping all over the place or else one of your teammates would die and you'd get a game over. You probably looked up a guide on how to customize your guns and grinded at the arena. The game was genuinely challenging you pretentious fuck.
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JRPGs got even shitter
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>>333393246
I don't know. Tried a few ps3 ones and didn't care for it. My favorite is still Rogue Galaxy
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