A New Plan
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You all know the stories. Fallout was originally a good RPG, now it's a shooter and vastly different than it originally was, and appeals to a different audience.
What if we could convince Bethesda to bring the series back to it's roots? What if we could start a PR nightmare for Bethesda? Start a hashtag, get the casuals in, get the sympathy of Bethesda fans. Start a perpetual shitstorm. A #FalloutGate if you will.
Are you saying you just want the game to be isometric and turned based again?
Because the series became shit at Fallout 2 where it went from being a cool post apoc world to being a huge fucking joke ass memegame. Fallout 2 was the Borderladns of its time
>>333381939
More of a modern, improved version, with superior writing by Obsidian/Chris Avellone. Think XCOM 2/Wasteland 2 Hybrid with a single character instead of a squad.
>>333382082
>Obsidian/Chris Avellone
>>333382209
Obsidian has proven that they are better writers, and Chris Avellone is freelancing now. Either way, any is better than Emil Pagliarulo's writing which has dissatisfied many.
Kinda depressing Fallout 4 caters to the ipad generation of Minecraft playing, LP watching kids who loves to play games with padded crafting elements and settlement building.
>>333381824
>convince bethesda to target a tiny part of the market instead of its entirity
>convince them to put in a lot more time and resources instead of making games on a small budget and hide this under bullshit
>pressure them with a lot of free publicity for their titles
>>333382964
The object is to raise awareness to the older titles and guilt people into not buying the new ones
>>333384167
But how do you get past the problems I proposed anon
You'll never accomplish what you said anyway because as enjoyable as the stories and rpg back then were - the majority of people do not fucking like turn based shit.
Convince? Customer, I think we'll stick to making the games. Just keep your wallet ready.
>>333381824
This is the most autistic thing I have ever heard. Are you this retarded about video games? Do you really think a big company like Bethesda will give any fucks about you faggots?
>>333382616
Fallout might be actually good if it were more like minecraft
>>333384239
That's the thing anon: sensationalism. A lot of people do not give a rat's ass about SJW nitpicks, but with the right marketing, you can convince people into THINKING they want it. You gain sympathy.
>>333381824
Just give it back to obsidian.
FNV is a blast.
Just let betseda focus on elders scrol.
Mayve let them learn from obsidian. Nothing bad will come from this.
>>333384239
Xcom.
A blast
Turn based
> mayorety loves it
>>333385415
Not gonna happen, Normies hated new vegas and they sure as hell wouldn't be happy if the guys who made that game made another fallout.
>>333385198
People sympathize with a tranny getting abused for being themselves and that hooks people into the sjw, no one's gonna sympathize with a fat autist who is miffed that his game series is different to what it used to be (and is many times more successful)
Sorry anon, you're dreaming
>>333381824
I think it could be done. It would be marketed as a spin-off game set in the Fallout universe of course.
>>333385415
Do you really think Obsidian has the money to make a Fallout game alone? Why they even sold the IP to Bethesda in the first place.
>>333381939
>Because the series became shit at Fallout 2 where it went from being a cool post apoc world to being a huge fucking joke ass memegame. Fallout 2 was the Borderladns of its time
>dat underage
Also confirmed for never having played the game.
>>333385616
>no one's gonna sympathize with a fat autist who is miffed that his game series is different to what it used to be (and is many times more successful)
This. Sure, the older Fallout games were great, but there's a reason they aren't like that anymore, and that reason is profit.
Besides, Fallout 4 is pretty damn fun if you consider it a casual shooter with RPG elements. And despite what /v/ would have you believe the new perk system actually makes for some unique character builds.
>>333381824
This wont happen. Fallout fans like myself dont care about fallout 1 and 2. Most of us didnt even play it. We are happy with what fallout is today, and that old style can stay de dead.
>ITT Butthurt Obsidrones that will NEVER EVER get to play New Vegas 2 or any Fallout game from Obsidian
>Fallout 5 will be made by Bethesda
>>333381824
Bethesda will never change it back or make a spinoff that played like the originals. For 1 they didnt make the originals, 2 the new style makes them tons of money, 3 the resources it would take to make a new game would far outway the revenue it would generate since (in comparison to the fans of the new ones) only a small group would show intrest and buy it. Not even including piratefags
>>333381939
>Fallout 2 was the Borderladns of its time
Oh fuck... it actually makes sense
>>333381824
well why dont we just start fucking riding horses and shit because fuck technological advancment. i mean just fuck off whit this all games would be better if the would be worse bullshit
>>333381824
You're not going to start shit, faggot
>>333381824
That CAN'T work.
Bethesda is a company that knows it's audience very well. They will make games that sell, not games that are good/have gameplay depth etc..
Their audience doesn't care about what Fallout used to be they want open world role-playing light, that is what made skyrim successful.
These people don't want tactical battles or deep moral choices they want to play a role-playing game that is easy to play and understand.
>>333381824
Hmm...
Spend tons of hours, manpower, and money remodeling the Fallout series (again) into a gritty, turn based, isometric game that would only appeal to /v/ and a few other basement dwellers?
Or continue in the same direction that Fallout is already in that is wildly more successful and popular than FO1/2?
Tough choice.
Dumbass
>>333382209
>>333381939
>tfw an edgy poser joins the thread instantly and ruins all discussion
>>333387547
The thread's idea was shitty anyway
Fallout will never go back to its roots. It's way more profitable now that they made the jump to fps. Maybe a small devoted indie team that shares your sensibilities OP will appear and begin work on a legacy game based on the first two, but don't expect Bethesda to make the leap.
>>333381824
Literally 15 people used to play Fallout 1 and 2 when it was owned by Obsidian/Interplay. The series was such a failure that they had to sell the ip to Bethesda. Bethesda "rebooted" the series with Fallout 3 which made the series million times popular.
LOL, how can you dislike Fallout 3 and Fallout 4? Those games are sooooo good. My favourite RPGs of all time.
You must be retarded or insane if you actually think even for a second this has a chance of succeeding.
I'd be fine if they at least did not completely butcher the rpg elements in every iteration. SPECIAL is now dead and conversations are completely pointless. And as they always outdo themsleves with shitting things up, I bet even counting on them remaining this way is being optimistic. Next time, fps with crafting.
>>333381824
Just do it yourself. Cant be that hard.
>>333388309
It can work if enough publicity gets behind it. Post sales of successful RPG's, get sensationalism in here. Viral videos, memes, charts, hashtags, and spread it all over the net like wildfire and don't relent.
>>333381939
>3 short pop references in 274.995 lines
>memegame
I know millenials are dumber than rocks, but still...
>>333388993
It's more than 3.
>>333388586
Bethesda knows that there is no mainstream market for these games.
They won't even consider it.
Also most "casuals" want a Skyrim 6 not a game with actually depth.
>>333387892
Man, must suck to be so stupid. Did your mom turn on your computer for you, or did you manage on your own?
>>333382082
FNV was a fluke. Everything else Obsidian has ever made is bargain bin mediocrity. Why would you expect them to repeat a once in a lifetime success?
ITT Things we wish would happen, but cannot.
>Fallout 5
>New system is introduced that allows players to play both isometric turn-base and realtime FPS and a special mode that combines both (lets you use isometric view to command your allies on what to do in battle).
>Perk system redone. No more generic slight damage increase perks and the number of ranks for most skills is reduced to 1 or 2 ranks.
>Many interesting and varied quests are handmade. Designed with many solutions that can suit nearly every type of RP character. You are no longer railroaded into one singular path or karma.
>Make weapon customization worth a damn. Bring back varied ammo as well
>Melee is redone properly. No longer are bandits parrying supersledges being swung by a guy in power armor. You can aim in vats with melee.
>You can build and restore buildings proper in settlements. You can actually terraform and flatten the land. Buildings can be damaged, but settlers will be able to automatically fix them over time (something that should already happen to the buildings they work on in some places like Sanctuary).
>Story is no longer retarded and can have drastic branching paths where each path could easily be their own game.
>No essential characters
>Many factions added that you can join or make enemies of. No more generic raider or bandit factions with no established lore.
>Bring back cybernetics and actually have interesting implants and limb replacements. Allow the player to actually lose an arm or a leg and have to get a mechanical one that can be customized for combat or other uses.
>Allow the player to become a ghoul, supermutant, or a robot. All of which will affect your stats and affect how the world interacts with your character.
>Legendary enemies have interesting effects to them (like raiders using mutagens and growing extra arms, supermutants go bezerk).
>No more gambryo.
>Optional multiplayer
A bit tired, but I think I covered most of the things that will never ever happen.
>>333389558
Obsidian is good at writing just absolute dogshit at actually making games.
>>333389653
I don't even think their writing is that good. Other than FNV, maybe KotOR 2 has writing worth a damn? It's been too long since I played it. Their only major RPG I haven't played is Mask of the Betrayer.
FUCKING STOP IT YOU LITTLE FUCK.
WE CANNOT GO BACK. FALLOUT HAS BEEN IRREVOCABLY SHAT UPON. THE ONLY THING WE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR IS A FUCKING APOLOGY.
>>333381824
I honestly don't see much of a difference between this installment, and the last two. Outside of the voiced protagonist that is, but I can get by that.
Fallout doesn't need to become an isometric turn based game for it to go back to its roots. It can still remain a first person shooter while bringing back the elements that made it great like proper character building, the skill system from 1-2, decent quest and world design that encourage different approaches and repeated playthoughs, organic exploration with no hand holding, etc. The combat and camera angle wasn't that important.
>>333390063
I guess you're 4's intended audience then
>>333390054
It's this mentality that we don't have a better Fallout in the first place. Washy worthless ragefits like you that just shout in your shoutbox and do nothing to actually send the message. Cuck.
>>333390063
Well, bugs in previous instalments just crashed the game. In FO4 I have come across a number of bugs that made the main quest imposible to complete without the debug console. Consolefags have no that posibility, so for them it's potentially 80 hours of gameplay (and money) down the drain.
And that is just the tip of a massive iceberg of disappointments.
>>333390887
It's because of stupid faggots like you that we got fallout 3 in the first place you pathetic cunt. Fucking die in a fucking fire.
Games companies need to stop fucking leeching off good vidya franchises.
>>333390567
Why not design the game so that you can play in both FPS and isometric? It would be very intersting way to pad out the gameplay by playing it in FPS real time or playing it like a strategy game in isometric view.
>>333389457
>When stupid people call other people stupid
Why do you even talk when you don't know shit? Do you realize that lack of knowledge is responsible for stupidity?
Yeah, I'm sure we can convince Beth that making a shitload of money is a bad idea.
>>333390054
>>333391115
Serious question, are all Obsidian fans like this? This triggered and mad about Bethesda fallouts? Or this is just one of the rare cases of autism?
>>333391339
> hurr durr obsidiandrone
FUCK YOU YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHIT ARRRRRGH
>>333391339
this level of autismal mad usually comes from morrowind friends, so i guess there's a common thread of bethesda hatred
>>333391186
Did ur mom type that for you too?
>>333391678
Fucking motherfucker you missed the point as well.
Once we were given fallout 3 we were going down a path from which there was no return. What that other shiteating fuck did was inflate the point to an absolutely fucking moronic obsidian vs. bethesda argument that serves no purpose except to perpetuate shitty game for shithead casuals.
Fuck's sake.
>>333391115
I'm FIGHTING to get an actual Fallout RPG you moron. What the fuck?
>>333392224
Fucking stop it. Just fucking stop. Let the fucking corpse lie in the fucking ground and stop trying to squeeze more out of it.
>>333391115
>wants to pull Fallout back into a real RPG
>"FUCKING STOP YOU'RE MAKING IT WORSE"
???????
>>333392427
We don't need another fallout RPG.
What part of this do you not understand?
>>333392382
>defeatism
>"LOSING ONE BATTLE MEANS WE'RE ALL DEAD OH NO BETTER GIVE UP LOOKS LIKE THE AXIS WON THE WAR OH WELL"
Seriously, Project Eternity/Wasteland 2 proved RPG's WERENT dead. If people didn't push for them we wouldn't have them. What's this corpse nonsense about?
>>333381824
I love original Fallout games and really don't like what Bethesda is doing with this franchise, but your idea is just retarded. Let it go already - Fallout won't be isometric and turn-based anymore, and it doesn't have to anymore.
This anon explains why >>333390567
>>333391339
Well, It's not only Obsidian fans, you should count Black Isle fans too as well. We have reasons to be mad about Bethesda Fallouts, but these guys are just assblasted.
>>333391140
Because that would most likely be a complete mess since it requires a lot of careful balancing around the two playstyles, and I wouldn't trust a company like Bethesda with balancing.
>>333392660
Wasteland 2 was fucking abysmal m8.
> LOL Y DONT WE TRY TO MAKE ANOTHER GOOD FALLOUT RPG ITS NOT LIKE WE ONLY JUST GOT FALLOUT 4 OR ANYTHING
WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THINGS TO THESE PEOPLE ON THIS STUPID FUCKING IMAGEBOARD FUCK
>We r lejun
>>333393215
NCR > Legion
>>333390054
>>333391480
>>333392968
>>333382082
Wasteland 2 sucked dicks and managed to have shallower mechanics than the original Fallouts.
>>333393386
Fuck you.
>>333388993
Confirmed for never played the game.
I like Fallout 2 but it's a theme park and I hold it directly responsible for Fallout 3's locations all having some retarded gimmick. It's clearly the only original game that had some influence (not a lot, but still) on Bethesda. The wrong kind.
>>333381939
>isometric and turned based
No, the only reason why it was that way was due to technological limitations, if they could've made it 3D while keeping the same amount of detail they would have done it and it would not have been turn-based.
Just because a game is viewed from first person and it has smooth modern gameplay doesn't mean you can't design good role-playing elements, good lore and complex story around it.
Why doesn't Bethesda just outsource all the writing to people who are a bit more capable at it? They have all the money in the world after publishing Skyrim and Fallout 4. That's what I would do anyway, I'd like that people would fondly reminisce and remember my games 20 years later and consider them part of RPG history, what the fuck Todd?
tl;dr: what is Todd doing?
>>333381824
>What if we could start a PR nightmare for Bethesda? Start a hashtag, get the casuals in, get the sympathy of Bethesda fans. Start a perpetual shitstorm.
Or you could just set shithesda's office on fire. That would work even better, because even if we never get another good fallout game out of that, at least all the trash that is responsible for the recent games will be dead.
>>333394060
ok, i'll bite. How is it a "theme park" more than Fallout 1? Please be specific.
>A #Falloutgate
Fuck off faggot
Bethesda is shit now because they don't have to try to make money since retarded faggots throw their wallets at them, they won't change because some crybabies from /v/ complain on Twitter about it
>>333394537
He's right in the sense that each of the areas had a very specific and different theme. Just look at how different places like San Francisco, New Reno and Vault City are when it comes to aesthetics, theme and culture. Fallout 1's towns were much more generic in comparison.
>>333394454
>advocating murder
Get ready to get vanned you idiot.
>>333394934
are you retarded?
>>333394856
I don't see the problem with that. It feels natural, makes sense in-universe and adds variety. Blaming FO3 gimmicks on that it is as unreasonable as blaming ancient Greece and Rome for feminism.
>>333392224
>an actual Fallout RPG
And fallout 3 and 4 aren't RPGs because... ?
I get the impression that the most important elements of an RPG to you whiny faggots is how much text can it get on 1 screen and how complex and convoluted the skill dependencies are.
>>333394856
>Fallout 1 towns were more generic
Because it's around the time where people actually started building settlements and communities
I just think it was odd getting used to that and then the first big city you get to in Fallout 2 has fucking force fields and sliding doors
>>333381824
get Tim Cain and Chris Avellone to work together and make an isometric Fallout game.
#makeFalloutgreatagain
ITT: people seriously defending fallout 4
Oh yeah, I sure love role playing In that game. My character is an ex soldier looking for his son in the wasteland! What's yours?!
>>333394454
Get the fuck of /v/ you psycho.
Here is you place
>>>/b/
>>333394856
Except the first game created the fucking setting asshole. Originally the Vaults themselves were towns. Necropolis certainly isn't fucking generic you massive fucktard.
Fuck off.
>>333395332
How about you fuck off back to whatever shithead hugbox it is you come from. Anger is part of the human condition, embrace it you emotionally stunted idiot.
>>333395394
No need to get emotional, you huge baby. The generic nature of Fallout 1's towns fit the setting and mood very well. But it is what it is.
>it wouldn't sell
>pcucks would pirate iit
>endless shit flinging threads
God no.
It would be terrible anyway. No one with vision works at bethesda. The best you'll get a mobile game with a cashshop
>>333395503
You must have a real pathetic life if video games are making you this angry. This is not fucking politics.
>>333381824
The only thing that make them do that is if you have enough money to pay them all the lost revenue from the casual market.
>>333395326
And who said that a RPG has to have a MC with a blank slate every single time?
>>333395807
Imagine if you said that about painting?
> And who said that a painting has to have a canvas with a blank slate every single time
You are dumb as fuck
>>333395293
The first big city grew out of a fucking vault using Vault tech. Force fields and sliding doors were part of that tech and were in Fallout 1.
>>333395326
By your logic Witcher 3 isn't a rpg.
>>333393591
>My character is a vault dweller looking for a water chip
>My character is a tribal looking for a GECK
>>333396030
But we're not talking about painting. Try again
>>333395775
If you have that kind of money, it would be better to just lead the proyect personally and hire some freelancers to do your bidding.
Heck, even a drunk monkey would do better than Todd.
>>333381824
Anon, bethesda couldn't make a good game even if their life depended on it. Just forget they exist and enjoy fallout 1,2.
>>333396154
Meant for >>333395326
>>333395250
Fallout 3 and 4 you are extremely limited in how you make form you characters story
3 you are a kid looking for his father, and you can either be Jesus or Satan
4 you are a vet looking for your son and you can be snarky but people won't treat you any differently because of it
>>333395684
> is offended.
> calls other person a baby to try and hide his butthurt.
You're too young to be posting here.
>>333381824
i don't care about mine.... fallout anymore its over let it go.
>>333395764
I'm not getting angry about videogames you cunt. I'm getting angry because of STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE YOU SHITTING UP THE FUCKING INTERNET WITH YOUR PATHETIC FUCKING REASONING SKILLS.
>>333396379
Stay delusional you contrarion fag. Bethesda has already made enough good games and won enough GOTY awards. Maybe when Obsidian wins a goty award, then we'll talk.
>>333396627
Not the guy you are replying to but I have to say
>wew lad u mad.
BETRAYAL!
>>333396918
My rage burns like that of the intense hatred of a thousand white hot suns.
>>333392968
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>333395250
>>333396457
I agree that the karma system was shit, but you weren't restricted by it very much, you could still do what ever you wanted, F4 also got rid of it.
So helping or destroying the various factions and the people in the world has no effect on your characters story and morality, all that counts is that people don't treat you differently when you're "snarky"? If I was living in a irradiated wasteland with giant insects and mutants that want to turn me into a meat pie, the last thing on my mind would be that asshole that was rude to me that one time.
Nobody gave a shit about fallout before 3
>>333395732
>>333397090
You role-play your character to an extent, you make choices, you side with a faction, you quest, you get to meet characters and get to know them, you develop your skills, you have stats, xp and levels, you have an inventory, you can equip things and mod them.
It's literally a textbook example of an RPG.
It's okay to hate things but at least come up with something valid things to hate about it and don't hate it just because it made your secret underground club game series accessible and mainstream.
>>333397351
>Mentally handicaped people didn't give a shit about fallout before 3
Fixed that typo for you kiddo. You are welcome.
>>333397351
This, it pretty much revived the entire franchise, I wonder how things would be if they never made a new Fallout game, would F1 and F2 be remembered THIS fondly and would it show up so frequently in must-play RPG lists and be relevant subject of discussion, I doubt it.
>>333396651
Fallout 4 sure got a lot of GOTY awards.
>>333397263
>PnP campaign simulator...
Stopped reading right there. This is what I just said, they want a text based game with a manual next to them.
>>333397439
>>333397717
It did, also didn't Todd get some sort of award couple months ago for being one of the most important video game devs of this era?
>>333397439
>skills
>>333397717
It got around 40 GOTY awards.
>>333397735
>>333397847
Well perks or whatever you call them, stop being autist about grammar.
>>333397847
Less is better. Nothing of value was lost, all the skill just became perks.
>>333397847
>diagonal walking animations
>Fallout 4: yes
>other Fallouts: nada
>>333397953
I don't understand the point you are trying to make here. F4 has more dialogue than any of the previous Fallout/Elder Scrolls games.
>>333398296
But the game doesn't magically freeze time when you talk to a person so it's bad! You can actually walk away, that wasn't in the 70's Fallout games so it's fucking terrible!
Never played 1 or 2 but I've seen clips but I don't see the appeal at all.
>>333398531
Sure the grapchics, gameplay, UI and overall design is shit but once you get past that it's a pretty good story, think about it more like as a book or a visual novel than an actual video game.
Fallout 4 is not an RPG, this is true. It is just an action-shooter with very few rpg-like elements. But to call it a proper RPG, is false.
>You can't be evil
>The character you build has very less impact on the gameworld
>Quests are not varied, every quest is like go kill this > loot this > done.
>>333381824
Bethesda only knows how to make one kind of game.
>>333398296
come on, you are not even trying anymore
>>333397049
Well, stay mad you useless, complacent elitist. I'm not going to give up like you did. I have an actual group of people working with me to manipulate the media and give Bethesda the finger to send a message. You can stay on /v/ and call us autists for all we care, because you're doing nothing and helping nobody. You're literally just as bad as the "Bethesdrones" you attack all the time. You have no passion for change.
>>333397439
really? since you can max out every SPECIAL and every ranked "skill" because there is no level cap? now your "unique" character can be just like everyone else. You can roleplay as a person who says "yes" to every question or walks away until they are ready to say "yes".
>>333398037
you mean Rank1/Rank2/Rank3/Rank4 ?
that sounds totally like something you would think heavily upon making choices.
oh wait you can just max everything out in the end.
you don't have choices and none of your choices matter. you will always end up on the same point.
>>333398531
there's a lot of detail going into the game. everything is explained and tied together neatly.
all your choices actually have consequences sometimes permanent ones and you can really play however you want.
>>333397090
well it is an rpg in a jrpg sense of the word. You don't 'roleplay' there either, but they are still called rpgs.
>>333397939
>F4 has more dialogue than any of the previous Fallout/Elder Scrolls games.
The thing is - it's quantity over quality, so what is your point?
>>333399373
nice try Todd
>>333398882
>since you can max out every SPECIAL and every ranked "skill" because there is no level cap?
Oh look it's one of those people who didn't play the game.
You do understand that you finish the game around lvl 30-40, right? You realize how high the exp requirement goes at that point, to maximize every single SPECIAL and skill you'd have to play the game for thousand hours or more you goof, especially when you run out of quests to do that give you a lot of exp, the repeatable quests don't give you much.
There are plenty of RPG games without level cap since the xp requirement goes balls out insane on high levels that it might as well be capped cause you most likely won't level up.
So even if you managed to grind the same area of mobs for months to max out every skill then I guess gz, your character is a god now... In a world where there is nothing to do since you did it all 4 months ago... Have fun, I guess, shame on the devs for letting you do this, because, you know, reasons...
>>333399425
Fuck, meant for >>333398296
>>333398882
Fallout 2 also had a level cap of 99 and you could pump up SPECIAL stats with perks.
I'm in the NV>1=2>4>3 camp but the fact that 4 doesn't have a level cap really isn't an issue as XP requirements become absurdly high.
>>333399448
Never compare me to this faggot again, please.
All you guys need to do is link the metacritics for the Fallout games on PC, people will use that as a figure no matter how bullshit some are.
F:NV: 8.5
F:3: 7.9
F:4 5.4
I just prefer games made by Slavs and Japs these days.
Say what you want about Ivan, but they marginally have much more respect for the post apocalyptic setting than the Yanks do.
>>333399941
Don't be so hard on yourself, Todd.
>>333381824
>convince Bethesda
That's like convincing gypsy to get actual job instead of sucking generous welfare and screaming 'RACISM!' everytime he doesn't like something, good fucking luck.
>>333400013
>F:4 5.4
Boy, it must have been a busy day for the 13 /v/irgins on launch day creating up all those fake profiles while I was enjoying goty 2015 aka the best Fallout game to date.
>>333400307
>goty 2015
>He doesn't know
>>333395250
Fallout 4 with it's perks is closer to fucking Wolfenstein than actual RPG, Wolfenstein with gimmicky crafting and sprinkle of minecraft.
>>333400482
Know what? That Witcher 3 was a downgraded piece of shit flop that even managed to turn THE greatest circlejerk fanbase aka /v/ against it and CD projekt.
>>333382082
Modern Obsidian doesn't even come close to Black Isle or Troika
>>333400307
>Being this butthurt at how mediocre Fallout 4 was
>>333392040
It's worthless arguing with people who are <20 and have shit taste, friend.
>>333382313
>Emil Pagliarulo
>>333400609
Oh dang, you got me here! Fallout 4 is totally not a dumbed down piece of shit and it's totally not the Reddit's favourite game.
>>333401136
Isn't Witcher 3 reddit favourite game?
>>333401479
You might want to check r/fallout.
>>333401124
QUALITY dialogue. Such a persuasive and totally not retarded reasoning. Could make a shitton of money selling combs to bald people.
>>333401136
>Fallout 4 is totally not a dumbed down
Exactly, the trailers they showcased all represented the final product, can't say the same thing for The Downgrade 3: Wild Lies, glad we agree on that.
You know, you guys really suck at this.
>>333401594
But that is a subreddit dedicated to the game. /r/witcher also exists.
But for reddit gaming community as a whole, Witcher 3 is their favourite game. I have seen it gets praised from /r/pc gaming to /r/gaming.
>>333401594
most of r/fallout loves nv more than 4 though.
>>333402075
r/fallout is 3 times bigger than r/witcher.
You may also count r/fo4 as well as it's 2 times bigger than r/witcher.
Maybe it's not praised in other subreddits but it still got quite a number of followers.
>>333403145
I haven't been following it since Falout 4 release, but I've often seen people being downvoted for disliking Bethesda's Fallout games.
>>333389579
>New system is introduced that allows players to play both isometric turn-base and realtime FPS and a special mode that combines both (lets you use isometric view to command your allies on what to do in battle).
Impossible with console limitations.
>>333381824
Jesus fuck off.
Obsidrones are the most obnoxious people on earth.
>>333402075
>>333403145
>>333403706
>>333401594
How the fuck do you even know that these subreddits existed unless you've been on the site?
Oh wait, it's neo /v/...
>>333404496
>he doesn't study his enemies
>>333400079
Ivan knows post apocalyptic because their world has always been shit with some minor western influences to give them new shit that'll kill them/make them kill each other faster/rust and become scenery.
>>333404729
Rather stay blissfully ignorant and let others do the research for me.
I don't want to go anywhere near that site. No need.
>>333400079
>he thinks Fallout is post apocalyptic
oh boy
I'd be OK with them being an almost pure shooter if they made a GOOD shooter
Fallout 4 is mediocre. Bethesda will never make a good shooter until they get a new fucking engine
>>333404939
>and let others do the research for me.
and then shit on them for saving you work..I don't get your logic.
>>333404172
It worked in xcom and dragon age
>>333404496
Oh no! He have uncovered us! What shall we do, redditbros?
>>333381824
>A #FalloutGate if you will.
>>333381824
>What if we could convince Bethesda to bring the series back to it's roots?
Overfunded Kickstarter
i want a VTMB-styled Fallout game.
there would be quite a lot of differences though but i want the gameplay and attention to detail to remain the same.
>>333381939
While Fallout 2 has much more humor than Fallout 1, it certainly doesn't have obnoxious amount of references.
If you can't get over a few jokes in a open world game thenkys
>>333405538
Fun fact:Troika wanted to buy the rights to Fallout, but Bethesda outbid them.
You almost got your wish anon. Almost.
>>333405221
XCOM is totally different style of game though, and we need to keep dragon age's influence away from Fallout. Look at the horrible dialogue wheel in 4.
>>333405538
Isn't Fallout New Vegas is the game you looking for?
>>333406083
not with that shit engine
no reusing assets that don't make sense
>>333394269
faggot plz kill yourself
wasteland 2 is cool.
shame about being fresh, ripe bugshit.
is the directors cut version as buggy and long loading as the standard?
>>333406280
That would be amazing, but we all know it's not going to happen.
>>333406296
He's absolutely right tho. You can't even prove him wrong, retard.
But isn't that Wasteland 2 ?
A RPG is only as good as it's story AND the systems underneath it that hold it up,you can reskin the game however you want,but if the core systems are still the same it's really the same game like re skinning a skeleton.
All Bethesda has to do it get better writers and actually make better rpg systems instead of neglecting it and filling it with loot in a disconnected world that you explore.
>>333401124
Guy won writer of the year for that.
Wake me up.
>>333394269
The first Fallout 3 was going to be in 3D and it was still turn based.
>>333408417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvIM50SYqnU
Literally the best writing ever. Obsidiots B T F O
>>333396918
Making good arguments until you became and undermeme poster.
>>333408704
Outstanding voice acting, how did we ever live without a voiced protagonist?
>>333404496
People can make a subreddit for anything, of course there's going to be for fallout and witc you fucking retard
>>333408704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX5gOTMsSag&nohtml5=False
>>333392968
(You)
>>333409774
>>333405538
Fuck that. Bring back the isometric games. I can't be the only one that thinks VTM:B sucks
>>333381824
If we could do this, then we should instead take away the rights from Bethesda and give it to someone who knows how to bring back the magic of the old Fallouts.
Also in terms of graphics and gameplay, it would need to change a little. Needs to be more streamlined, but more X-COM:EU/EW and XCOM2 tier of streamlining if we want turn-based. Yet the thing would be, for example, how many time you'd attack depending on both stats and perks you unlocked. Might very well turn it into real-time like Fallout Tactics, yet add an active pause ala DoW or the old D&D video games like BG, IW, Torment or NWN and give the appropriate orders to your characters. Of course, there would be an option to switch between XCOM-style turn-based system and real-time with an active pause.
In terms of graphics...I'd go for a high-quality cel-shaded comic book one, but with realistic proportioning and a fitting style (like The Walking Dead comic books or the games by Telltale), but grittier to fit into the post-nuclear world.
The story...dunno who would need to do it. These days people who can come up with a really good story and deliver it well enough are so rare that it's easier to go and buy depleted uranium these days.
>>333410648
Blame for the fact that the devs were pressed hard and delivered a buggy game.R.I.P. Troika Games
>>333410648
>>333410925
VTMB is on the same boat as New Vegas.
>>333411023
As in quite good despite the gamut of faults?
NV was better than 3 I agree with you there.
