We're never going to get decent wRPG's again, are we?
pic may or may not be related, individual mileage may vary.
NWN was great... as a mod tool and arena fighter. The campaigns are all ass and make backstabbers and archers pretty pointless
>>333372563
Just sayin'. Instead of building a bigger, better, more complex system for real creativity to flourish, we're instead getting simpler, watered down ''cinematic'' games.
Not that those are bad, just that those seem to be the only wRPG games now.
>>333372702
The autismo mod crowd all moved to modding bethesda games. Skyrim is no nwn, but it fills largely the same role and inexplicably is many times more popular than nwn ever was. I'd love another DnD game with mp arenas though. That was always fun and hasnt really been replaced by anything.
>>333372563
The Aurora Toolset seems so inuntuitive, though. Even the dialogue editor is hard to work with.
I can't really imagine making a campaign spanning dozen of hours, like some people did
>>333373329
>Even the dialogue editor is hard to work with.
I worked it out in like 2 minutes without reading guides or tutorials.
Its piss easy and you are just stupid.
That said, my two attempts to get /v/ to make a campaign resulted in failure, because people are "too busy" after the initial 2-3 day surge.
>>333372470
NWN2 > NWN1
>>333372470
Literally every new IRPG except maybe Wasteland 2 is better than NWN, Bioware has never been good.
>>333372470
Can someone recommend me a good build for playing Hordes of the Underdark? I have a hard time imagining what kind of character could adapt to all the crazy shit in that campaign.
A Dance With Rogues
>>333372470
>first nwn(including expacks)
>decent
Fuck off retard
>>333373883
Never ever again.
>>333373974
>>333373870
Can't be that hard, I made it to the end when I was 12, without knowing any English or D&D rules. I think I even used dual-wielding without taking the feats.
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>>333374023
>you will never ever play a decently written narrative driven smut wrpg
>Old bioware rpg are decent
When will this meme die?
>>333374084
It's the fucking worst. I've been waiting years for another modding community like neverwinter nights had to come back. Everybody is busy making garbage sex mods for skyrim nowadays.
>>333374070
Well, I also beat it on Easy, but I think a build would be a must on harder difficulties.
>>333374183
Why do you need in-setting context sensitive and tidily written smut, when you can have basketball titties clipping into horse cocks while spiderman jerks off in the distance and guards warn you to cover your unmentionables?
>>333373842
>hurf durf, we hates Bioware now, so they were NEVAR gud!
>>333373908
b8/10
>>333374307
NWN is fucking garbage you plen.
>>333374307
>Someone unironically defends nwn
>>333374307
>defending bioware
>friends gif
could you be any more cancerous if you tried
>>333374307
All Bioware games became retroactively bad after Old Republic Online.
Get with the memes, grandpa.
>>333374328
>>333374373
>>333374414
Go to bed children.
>>333374448
I know, I guess I shouldn't even bother.
>TFW you will never fuck Ayin Mesmer
I saw this thread my dreams, what's going on here?
>>333375468
Adult mature stuff, for adult mature gamers such as myself.
>>333374448
Nah it wasn't TOR, it was me3. ME2 was still carrying biowares name along until then, even though the tortanic was hilarious
>>333372563
>NWN was great... as a mod tool
>this RPG was great as a toolset to make your own adventures
What a travesty, it would certainly be much better to use a Witcher like model where you pay $60 for a section of a premade story.
Can anyone recommend some good mage specific modules?
>>333375984
Found a newfag who missed the times when multiplayer was still alive.
>>333376181
bg2
NWN main story in a nutshell
>talk to X
>go explore area Y
>kill boss Z
>bring his quest item back to X
repeat a dozen timesit was fun tho
>>333376448
Just like every other rpg?
Is this the cRPG thread that isn't full of Enhanced Edition shitposting?
I just wanna know if XP gain from enemies scales down in Divine Divinity, because in Divinity 2 enemies barely gave any XP after you leveled up a couple of times
>>333376596
No, you just need more and more XP to reach each level.
>>333376701
So I can freely sequence break by spamming meteorstrike at orcs without making the catacombs pointless?
>>333376448
Is that the plot to the Odyssey, you oversimplifying fuck?
>>333375743
im a rated M guy too ya know
>>333376781
It will be pointless if you overlevel while killing the orcs.
>>333377162
As a mage I can already spam everything to death at level 1 so it doesn't make too much of a difference as long as the overall XP gain is the same
NWN1 Class Tier List
>God Tier:
Druid
>Top Tier:
Wizard, Sorcerer, Cleric, Shifter
>High Tier:
Champion of Torm, Black Guard, Bard, Weapon Master
>Mid Tier:
Paladin, Harper Scout, Pale Master, Fighter, Red Dragon Disciple, Dwarven Defender
>Low Tier:
Monk, Ranger, Rogue, Assassin, Shadow Dancer, Arcane Archer, Barbarian
>>333377224
In multiplayer maybe.
For singleplayer you rarely need to minmax, so you can play whatever you like.
>>333377212
I guess, but storming the catacombs is going to be a really tedious task since they won't even give you one level later on.
>>333377387
As long as you don't rely on crits or want to be a scythe or halberd wielder, because those simply arent really lootable.
>>333377431
I already know it's a tedious task because I played a bit of the game a few years ago and holy fuck I suck at seeing the switches on the walls
>>333377387
Sure you can, but high tiers are still going to have an easier time.
>>333378461
But you dont care if its easy, you care if its fun. Its a video game.
>>333376275
Nice reading comprehension, retard.
>>333377583
>be tanky weapon master in campaign
>everything is peachy
>motb is filled with lmaonocrit enemies
>hit so hard at that point with high AC that it didn't matter
>>333373870
Paladin 16/Fighter 4/Champion of Torm X
Good STR and CHA, decent WIS
Take Divine Might and Shield, put them in quickslots, and take all your weapon feats for Longsword. Click DM/DS if you're about to fight a boss, laugh through the game.
Where's myA Dance With Spies broat?
>>333379109
>Glass cannon Frenzied Berserker for OC
>Every engagement is like playing rocket tag (thank-you based 3.5)
>Get to MotB
>+40 +6d6 +6d6 damage every attack
Best class.
>>333379353
>soft melee class
>have aoe caster in party
>hardcore rules
Rest in pepperoni
>>333379510
>trusting a caster
Anon, please.
Honestly, I never had any trouble as far as being collateral damage; I'm not sure whether I had high enough SR/saves or was just lucky.
>you will never again be a 3.5 Frenzied Berserker using Inspire Frenzy to lead your adventuring party of ravening psychopaths
DnD is dead.
What's the best class to play through the original campaign? I'm not familiar with D&D at all.
>>333380632
Thematic and ease? Probably Paladinassuming you're talking about NWN 1
Also Druid, but I could never be bothered.
Just finished playing Twilight and Midnight and holy shit, it was so much fun.
You get so much overpowered equipment it's ridiculous, and then it throws a thousand mobs for you to mow down. After level 12 it already feels like you are playing an epic level character.
By the end of the second module I had per day 8 smite evil, around 15 turn undead and 3 lay on hands which healed over 100 hit points.
Also all charisma buffs were extended, all healing spells maximized, and turn undead worked on demons too.
But even with all that, you also get an aura like mummies have, it applies all sorts of debuffs to undead and demons, and after a certain level, did damage every round. Not only, with the right upgrade it worked for all evil mobs.
One of my gripes was that to keep it challenging pretty much every main mission was timed, really frustrating if you want to loot everything.
And also the fucking puzzles, you have to stop the hack-and-slash to play Mastermind and Tower of Hanoi. At least most were skippable.
It's a pity it was never finished, I would have loved to see more.
>>333380818
>It's a pity it was never finished, I would have loved to see more.
Fuck this feel, man.
>Bastard of Kosigan not finishedor even fully fucking translated
>Demonheart not finishedADWR not properly finished
A-at least we have ToA, right?
I'll have to give try that one though, since I usually play a Paladin anyway these days.
>>333381140
What's with the French and making their shit in French? I understand it being the case for Russians since Opyжиe yбpaл axaxaxaxaxaxaxa )))))))))))), but the French?
Mount and Blade: Warband also has a great mod in French that was never properly translated. It's a fucking pity since everybody loses, the players miss a great mod, and the creator only gets his mod played by the other 5 Francophone players.
>>333381625
Because they fucking hate the Brits m8
Are you 10?
>>333381625
I'm assuming it's just provincialism, writing in the 'superior' language and all that.
>mfw the guy who created The Bastard of Kosigan turned it into a book series and is getting them published
REEEE
use the money to get someone to finish translating your fucking mods, m8
>>333381625
Learn French then.
>>333381981
Fabien pls goIt's not my fault I'm terrible with languages
>>333376389
>tfw the first Breach I ever cast in the whole game was against Abazigal
At some point you can pretty much hammer them until they drop, especially if you've got dual wielders. The main exception is liches because of their fucking Time Stops. I mean, Energy Blades still counts as a spell, I guess, but at some point it was one of the few spells I used that wasn't just bard or party buffs.
>>333381981
I can read it somewhat, but in these cases you end up running into words you wouldn't see otherwise. That means you need to pick up a dictionary or google it, which is very exhausting if you need to go through a lot of text.
>>333372470
Damn this bring up memories. I worked on an adventure mod for months and never finished it but still got tons of fun doing it.
>>333381981
Nah fuck the french
>>333379510
>Not just making them memorized a dozen different variants of Missile Storm
Sincerely fuck you Qara and your fetish for huge ff-prone aoe spells, that's why we never bring you anywhere nice.
>>333377224
>Shadow Dancer
>low tier
Nigger has fucking HIPS
>>333382669
And?
True Sight makes HIPS completely worthless
>>333382669
Isn't HIPS mostly useless outside of PVP
>>333372470
While NWN is great, I just want another game like Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance or Champions of Norrath. They're like the perfectly blend of aRPG and D&D mechanics
>>333382936
Not a problem, lad. Everyone knows only faggots have true seeing.
>>333382949
It's the best.
Icewing Dale, NWN, Baldur's Gate, ToEE even...
Are there any more games like this? Pls no Lionheart (which i thought was okay even though i was very young when i played it and hit a brick wall i couldn't grind though, cause of no respawns).
Maybe modern games?
>>333382281
Get Sword Coast Stratagems 2 or Tactics Mod.
Makes casters in BG start with spell sequencer full of defensive spells comparable to you pre-casting buffs on your party.
>>333382669
It's a PvP list, which I wish the poster would fucking label.
>>333382936
>>333382949
It's insanely OP in most modules. EZ mode.
>>333383109
There are modern iso rpgs. They all kinda suck.
>>333382987
>there will NEVER EVER be a dark alliance 3
>>333383109
From modern games, Dragon Age: Origins and Pillars of Eternity both have the party based tactics gameplay. They are both decent, worth a playthrough.
>>333383250
Okay, what's the best NWN and NWN module to play? I've been out of it for a while, so new char and retard friendly, but i'm sure i'll pick it up soon enough
>>333372563
Hordes of the Underdark was fucking awesome.
>>333373329
The editor is super easy to learn, even dialogue.
>>333383109
Divinity: OS, Wasteland 2, Pillars of Eternity.
>>333383109
If your write "isometric rpg" in Google you're going to get dozens of good resutls.
Not many are modern though, but that's the way it is.
>>333383329
I remember enjoying the eye of the beholder mod, because it spans all the way to lvl 40 or something and is made for coop. Pretty basic dungeon crawling.
Other than that the Aielund saga seems pretty popular.
>topic
it will never happen so long as EA has bioware and even though bioware write buggy shit it feels bad because at least they sandbox enough to make your own world in the engine.
>melee vs caster
caster wins, with level 2 spells. maxed missle storm and they are laughing at your corpse.
and its great wanting to move this type of multiplay to skyrim or the witcher or something and mod it into that, but nwn could do sandbox multiplayer as standard, and the only limit is your imagination and ingame items, and mods.
>tier
pointless cause you can mod the classes. a common example being max monk AC to monk class level, so you can't overflow and be monk/druid with 100AC
>>333383594
I got into cRPGs way late and I'd say a lot of the modern ones are just as good as ye olde ones
>>333372702
>Instead of building a bigger, better, more complex system for real creativity to flourish
How many times does this result in a better game instead of a clusterfuck like 3E where most of the options are worthless noob traps? Fuck that.
You will never again give a judgement on a fag that sacrificed children n burned village.
>>333383856
Not going to say old ones are better, just that they are more prevalent in the older days.
Also, check out Siege of Avalon.
>>333383757
Actually druid can reach 100 AC even without monk its just not optimal, and if you going to use mods then druid can reach 1000AC by level 5
>>333383060
>Not a problem, lad. Everyone knows only faggots have true seeing
This.
>>333383329
For modules? NWN. For the game?NWN2 and MotB, fite me faggots
If you want to start with NWN, try SoU and if you get bored skip to HotU
Modules:
Tales of Arterra is probably the best to start off with - interesting story, well balanced, epic scope but still pretty straightforward (it's a must-play for everyone even if you don't start with it)
The Bastard of Kosigan starts off pretty straightforward, it's long and awesomeand unfinishedbut it's hard to fuck up the early modules. From about halfway through the second module you have to be reasonably capable of thought to fully understand the story.
Also, a few bugs that range from 'inconvenient' (it can be a bit of a chore getting the later modules to remember your choices, as the module creator fucked up some of the variables) to 'lol have fun faggot' (the second module will crash ~90% of the time you load a save, so be prepared to play it all in one sitting)
There's the Aielund Saga, which I'm playing now. It's good, your mileage may vary as other anons have been split in their opinions.
Honourable mention: Demonheart, which is pretty well-written and has an interesting take on the worldbut is going to be finished never ever
Want lewd? A Dance With Rogueshope you didn't want a complete and fulfilling lesbian playthrough, though
there's also A Dance With Spies from a male perspective, it's a lot more focused on the lewd and is still being worked onbut I like it even if there isn't as much femdom as I'd like
Did I forget any? Any other recommendations?
>>333384353
>A Dance With Spies
Im currently playing this and im stuck, i just finished the part when you help Kate at the temple and now i seem to be deadended, i looked up a guide and it tells me just to rest and wait for the archer girl to wake you up about an attack but iv rested hundreds of times and nothing.I agree about the femdom
>>333384914
>>333384353never ever anything like that again ever ever never ever everever
>>333384914
>but iv rested hundreds of times and nothing.
Probably missed a flag or trigger, reload and go through it again. Triggering the 'unusual' events (the ones that have a special condition like being alone in the apartment) like that can be a bitch, though, so I'm not surprised - I remember it took me a few rests to trigger it.
You might need to finish the Temple event, come back to the apartment, rest, leave (maybe trigger the visit to the temple here?) then return when there's nobody else there and /then/ rest to get it to properly trigger.At least you're not trying to trigger the cuckold path...Only one true femdom scene, life is suffering anonNext version hopefully
>>333385131
Never ever? Didn't you likeImoen/Marieanon?
>>333372873
>Skyrim is no nwn, but it fills largely the same role
Not really. Skyrim isn't party-based, and neither the vanilla game nor the modding community prioritizes plot and characterization the way NWN and its modules tend to do. Skyrim modding is more about stuff like perk and gameplay overhauls and adding new things to the world. Apparently quest-making is a major pain in the ass, and even if you can get past that, then you have to deal with people expecting quest mods to have voice acting.
>>333374183
>I've been waiting years for another modding community like neverwinter nights had to come back.
Well, for that to happen, someone would have to make a new game in the style of NWN, and no one really has. Bethesda's games are really the only ones with that level of moddability, but like I said earlier, they're very different from NWN and can't do the same things.
>>333385941
>even if you can get past that, then you have to deal with people expecting quest mods to have voice acting
Hard not to when the conversation system is built around delivering short lines and having few options.
>too many options? have to scroll.
>too long options? whole thing breaks.
>no way for the player to check what the last line was, if you didnt read it its gone.
>conversation is in "real time", not click through.
>>333374302
And when you refuse to comply, the guards lock you in the dungeon and rape you to teach you a lesson, and you have to play a minigame to break free.
>>333376275
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
>>333386118
No, they actually take out their swords and start attacking you with the help of the town grocer, when they beat you to a pulp they fuck you (town grocer helps) and then they confiscate your stolen dildos and boots, and the grocer asks you if you want to buy something.
>>333376181
Tale of a Mage is a lot of fun, though light on story. Almraiven and its sequel get recommended a lot, but it makes spells use material components. I hated that, so I dropped it immediately.
>>333372563
Only the OC was lame. F*ck off
>>333381625
>What's with the French and making their shit in French?
Seems pretty self-explanatory to me. That's their language, so that's what they use. You might as well ask why Americans make things in English.
>>333381140
>Bastard of Kosigan not finished or even fully fucking translated
And in many cases, it doesn't let you load saves in part 2 and doesn't correctly recognize your story choices in later modules.
I can't remember, does Hordes of the Underdark have many nocrits enemies? I want to try a Weapon Master
>>333382349
And you can't Google it while playing, because NWN shits itself if you alt-tab.
>>333382495
You really shouldn't let NWN2's AI control spellcasters.
>>333386752
Yeah, the bugs are a bitch. Especially the loading saves one
>tfw no qt reunion with___Alex___savefile
I used to know how to bypass that variable bug, but I've been working at it for a fucking week for another anon and I can't repro it.
Fucking frenchies!
>>333386767
I don't believe so, but it's been a while. It shouldn't matter, though, because if you're built properly you'll be doing tons of damage anyway.
bg2 or NW2 ? (gog version)
>>333386961
It does adequately simulate the coin-toss gameplay of my old 3.5 sessions, though.
>>333387135
BothNWN2 if you've got taste
>>333387212
>NWN2 if you've got taste
My sides. A taste for eating shit maybe
>>333372470
Pillars of Eternity is better than both Baldur's Gates and Icewind Dales combined. Underrail is a worthy successor to Fallout. The only subgenre that's kinda lacking is blobbers and even with them we have Legend of Grimrocks and Might&Magic X for both real-time and turnbased preferences.
Stay away from AAA hype trash and you'll realize that 2014->now has been the best years for cRPGs since Troika died
>>333386090
>too many options? have to scroll.
>too long options? whole thing breaks.
You can fix those problems with some UI mods, like EZ2C Dialogue Menu.
>conversation is in "real time", not click through.
You can click through if you're actually in dialogue mode, but if it takes place out of dialogue mode, then yeah, your options are more limited. You can sprint into people to make them skip to their next line, but that's annoying and possibly disorienting. It also only works if the NPC is standing and not using a crafting station or leaning against a wall or other things like that.
>no way for the player to check what the last line was, if you didnt read it its gone.
That's true, but to be fair, most other RPGs don't do that either. That's mostly confined to stuff like NWN or BG.
>>333387513
>Pillars of Eternity is better than both Baldur's Gates and Icewind Dales combined.
maybe if you enjoy having overdescriptive writing everywhere, pretty much no xp for combat (other than some bestiary xp) in a game where fightning trash is more than half of what you will be doing and also boring, perfectly balanced classes which all play the same
>>333387703
Divinity: Original Sin lets you scroll up any dialogue to see what you already said or were told, and it keeps a full log of all dialogues in your journal.
Wish all games had such options.
>>333373329
I figured out dialogue and the like when I was like 10 op
>>333387883
Yes, I enjoy a well designed game instead of embarassingly naivistic writing mixed with a hodgepodge mess of a system that was never designed to be used in a real time system
>Honestly, I think it's really sad that RPGs essentially get a pass on having fundamentally junk core gameplay. And yes, I do consider combat to be a core gameplay element of most RPGs.
>An awesome game with a crappy ruleset would be a better game if it had a better ruleset. Again, why grit your teeth and accept fundamentally dumb systems and their dumb adaptations into different media when such things clearly could be designed and executed better?
>Project Eternity will take the central hero, memorable companions and the epic exploration of Baldur’s Gate, add in the fun, intense combat and dungeon diving of Icewind Dale, and tie it all together with the emotional writing and mature thematic exploration of Planescape: Torment.
w-what happened obsidianbros??
>>333388154
What happened was that he once again managed to create a masterpiece after another
>>333387883
They also copied D&D's Vancian magic system and made it even worse by severely restricting how often you can rest. Why anyone would use Vancian magic for their game when they don't have to is beyond me.
>>333388316
>made it even worse by severely restricting how often you can rest.
That's the point of Vancian magic you dumb fucking threeaboo. Nobody did five minute workdays in AD&D. They learned not to blast every spell at the first wolf.
>>333388480
>Again, why grit your teeth and accept fundamentally dumb systems and their dumb adaptations into different media when such things clearly could be designed and executed better?
>>333388480
Yeah, because it's extremely fun to play a spellcaster who spends most of their time *not* casting spells.
>>333388316
>>333388480
This. If anything, it always annoyed me how easy it is to cheese the game by resting all the time.
Resting should either progress the plot in some meaningful way (like quest having to be done within 4 days) or it should be very restricted.
>>333388729
Yes, it is executed better in Pillars even if resting is still a bit too easy even on Path of the Damned.
Has nobody here tried Drakensang? It's relatively recent and decent.
>>333388753
>Yeah, because it's extremely fun to play a MOBA hero who needs to wait 2 minutes to cast their signature ultimate spell.
>Yeah, because it's extremely fun to play a soldier in Call of Duty who can only fire one RPG rocket per life.
>Yeah, because it's extremely fun to play a medic in TF2 when you can only use uber every once in a while.
>>333388757
Or we could realize that "spells per rest" is a shitty system to begin with and just not use it.
>>333372470
I wish someone made a modern Neverwinter creation tool with better graphics and more features.
It doesn't need to come out with a campaign, just sell it as a 3D RPG Maker: D&D Edition.
Let's get back on topic. How is the Prophet? Going to play it this weekend with friends and I was curious if being the prophet actually changes things.
>>333388903
This is also a good idea. Instead limit spells with gold.
Make spells require very expensive reagents, some crazy expensive ones for the top tier stuff.
That way the player will limit themselves from sing them all the time, and it also subtly buffs some gold related skills and strategies, since it will actually be important.
Makes for a tighter early game and a crazier late game.
>>333388903
It works perfectly in Dark Souls because there's enough of a tradeoff to resting with the respawn system
>>333388973
On a technical level, it's well-made. The problem is that the plot is just the same "twist" repeated over and over about a hundred times. It gets praised because people like how it's dark and edgy and supports determinism.
>>333389237
>supports determinism
Fuckin dropped.
>>333388889
There's a big difference between "can't use your most powerful ability all the time" and "only rarely get to actually play your class instead of missing with a crossbow".
>>333389509
At least NWN had the decency to give you a shitty wand at the start so you could actually do something in the early levels.
>>333389509
Mages have dozens of spells, with multiple charges each. If you want to shoot a crossbow, thats you.
To extend my DOTA2 example, that would be auto attacking instead of using spells.
>>333389041
Material components are even worse. Things like that take the magic out of magic.
The only good thing ever made on aurora is The Witcher, NWN and all expansions suck ass and no mod could fix the crappy gameplay.
>>333389509
>play your class
And here's why you're approaching this wrong because Pillars is party-based game and you control more than just your main character. Spells are supposed to be situational gamechangers and not spammed like in Dragon Age
>>333389737
So you want no constrains on magic? You are a shirt game designer. Please remain unemployed.
>>333389753
basic NWN combat > witcher combat
I enjoyed seeing dodges, parries, and casting spells over a shitty rhythm game.
>>333389675
>Mages have dozens of spells, with multiple charges each. If you want to shoot a crossbow, thats you.
But I thought I wasn't supposed to "blast every spell at the first wolf" and was instead supposed to conserve spells for when I really, really need them? If I do that, then I will indeed spend most of my time missing with a crossbow.
>>333389753
>make Aurora engine game
>make it in such a way it cant be easily modded
>>333389930
>So you want no constrains on magic?
No, I just prefer something like mana or cooldowns.
>>333390129
Dont cast finger of death on the wolf then, fucking moron.
Cast magic missiles, of which you have like 10. Cast some +1 rolls party buff.
You have so many spells that are useless in tight fights, use these in more lax ones.
>>333377224
Still not as broken as actual pen and paper 3e with the caster classes.
>>333389917
>Spells are supposed to be situational gamechangers and not spammed like in Dragon Age
I think this is ultimately a difference of opinion. I like playing a direct-damage spellcaster, and that requires being able to cast frequently.
>>333390168
bioware is trash at software big fucking woop
>>333377224
I tried going Druid but shifter is too much fun especially when you put some levels into monk.
>>333390453
>bioware is trash at software
>when their Aurora game is the most easily modded one with the most custom content by far
>>333390384
That's no different from playing an archer with different color arrows then. You can never create spells that actually feel fun and powerful and retain any balance in a system like that
>>333390268
I can only do this after several levels. What am I supposed to do until then, aside from just resting after every couple of fights?
>>333390229
>No, I just prefer something like mana or cooldowns.
FUUUUUUUCK yes I am mad even fi you are baiting I am genuinely mad. Kill yourself.
>>333390604
Give blowjobs to the useful party members
>>333390604
INSPIRE FRENZY
>>333390535
>Aurora is a good engine
said no one ever
>>333390601
>That's no different from playing an archer with different color arrows then.
Not really. There are other variables, like single target vs AoE, close/medium/long range, friendly fire vs "only hits enemies", and different elements.
>You can never create spells that actually feel fun and powerful and retain any balance in a system like that
The system is (theoretically) already balanced for a lot of other damage-dealing classes, so I don't see why it would be so much harder to do for a caster. And whether or not something feels fun and powerful is totally subjective.
>>333390229
>No, I just prefer something like mana or cooldowns.
it is ok to be casual anon
just embrace your casualness and move to consoles
>>333391114
It's easy to use so that makes it good.
>>333391472
Ease of use is important. Look at WC3 vs SC2 and the custom content community for both of them.
>>333391337
Well, I'm happy for you that Bioware and Bethesda already cater to your wet fart wizardry needs
Can I make whips viable?
One elven beta could have prevented a lot of this shit happening.
>>333391472
it's not easy to use, the toolkit is, building something from scratch is a pain in the ass and the only reason CDPR used it is because it's cheap
>>333392062
Or he could play the divinity games which are much better than PoE
>>333392148
I dont think so
Is Aielund Saga good for MP?
>>333392345
Everyone else was just as fooled as he was.
>>333377224
Nah. Multiclassed sorc/pal + w/e is god tier. I get where you're going with the druid, but sorc works buffed and unbuffed while the druid is a sitting duck. And I've killed plenty of prebuffed druid dragons too using an unbuffed sorc.
>>333389957
>seeing dodges, parries
Yeah, that was pretty cool. Such a small thing, but it actually does a lot to make things feel fairly dramatic.
>>333394608
Nah druid curb stomps sorc into oblivion.
Sorc literally cant do anything against stacked extended regeneration, druid can just sit and laugh while sorc runs out of spells, Druid Soup eats mantles alive so you aren't going to win the caster war either grease/stone hold/vine mine/storm of vengeance/creeping doom. you also have to deal with the bear who can be given the silence aura shutting you don almost 100% with no save.
>>333372470
Not unless you make them yourself.
>>333373776
Not as far as toolsets are concerned.
>>333396231
NWN2 toolset is 100 times better than NWN1 toolset
>>333396231
Or almost anything else, for that matter.
>>333396409
It doesn't matter if it's more powerful if almost no one thinks it's worth the effort to learn it. Even if it were the best toolset in the universe, that doesn't mean anything if no one uses it to make anything. The disparity between how many modules each game has is enormous in favor of NWN1.
>>333374183
If the Dark Paladins of Knox guy doesn't deliver, I might have to end it all.
>>333396318
I learned in another thread that it's possible to be raped by a dog in that module. As infamous as it is, I didn't think it would go that far.
What are the best modules for someone who knows fuck all about dnd?
>>333397153
It isnt possible, actually. This is false.
>>333381140
What's happening with demonheart?
>>333397504
I remember something like that in the bandit ruins.
>>333392345
How would the story play out if he didn't follow Desther and lived?
>>333395532
I did't remember models being this fucking ugly.
>>333396409
Sure. That's why it produced so many quality modules to play.
>>333397694
It never gets that far no matter what you do.
I think you can't even wish for it, all the options are some faggy shit like "oh god pls not the dog".
>>333397153
>>333397504
Technically it's a gang rape.
>>333397541
She gave up on NWN and is programming her own visual novel engine.
>>333397970
There is far more quality modules for NWN2 than NWN1
>>333398242
>trolololololol
>>333398242
>There is far more quality modules for NWN2 than NWN1
>>333396318
>Female MC
>>333398386
>>333372470
>mod Monk to have full BAB and d10 HD so that they aren't the worthless sacks of shit they are in 3.5
>equip high damage gloves
>get into a fight at high levels
>>333398242
This, 9 times out of 10 NWN1 modules are complete garbage with "quality" modules being shit like ADWR
>>333398168
With art like this, no less.
>>333397910
They aren't. Something's wrong in that picture. It looks like a Skyrim dragon with the LOD bug.
>>333395532
>spell resistance: 20
Yeah, nah. Here's how a fight would go.
>time stop, spam mord to remove buffs, time stop again, spam max igms, druid ded.
1020 hp is like what, 4 or igms casts? That's two and a half rounds with haste.
>AB 58
If I decide to buff myself, I'd easily have over 78 AC with stock equipment, meaning that this particular build would only hit me on nat 20s.Git gud.
>>333397910
>>333399046
He has barkskin on.
>>333398242
No, there aren't. Whenever someone asks for NWN2 module recommendations, it's always the same ones. Mask of the Betrayer, Path of Evil, and maybe two or three others. NWN1 has far more high-quality modules than that.
>>333398242
good one lmao
>>333399023
Art style reminds me of the Aveyond series in design and colour, though this is more professional than actual game's art work.
>>333398242
The only decent part of NWN2 is MotB and the sigil server
>>333373776
Not even close
>>333398242
What the fuck. There arent even a dozen good NWN2 modules.
>>333399468
Spell resist 20 is Dragon forms natural SR
>time stop, spam mord to remove buffs
You cant remove Regeneration its not dispellable and its not on the list of possible auto dispells
Regeneration outheals the damage of IGMS, Regeneration can be stacked on itself INDEFINITELY and im free to cast whatever i want while it heals me. Do you understand? igms CANNOT out-damage regeneration.
Here's how the fight would actually go
I counter-spell you, the bear kills you before you get to cast a single spell.
Here's how the fight would go if i dont counter-spell you. I have hundreds of stacks of regeneration preventing you from dealing any damage to me, i grease you, you fall down and get stunlocked, i cast harm, you die.
Learn 2 NWNGit gud
>>333398495
Isn't that the only point of being female though?
>>333396409
Just like the Dota 2 toolset or SC2 toolset compared to WC3. It doesn't mean jack shit when nobody makes modules for it.
>>333398495
There might also be straight guys who don't want to be women, but who would like to live in a role-reversed world where men are the ones who get ravished because they're so irresistibly sexy to aggressive, dominant women. But since porn or erotica of that is basically nonexistent, they have to look at stuff made for women and try to imagine the scenes with the sexes reversed.
>>333398495
I only play female if i can be a lesbian desu
>>333400668
Years since I've last played, so you might be right about dispelling. However I igms while in timestop. And I can timestop while in timestop. Regen doesn't work in timestop. It's cheap, but it worked many times before.
>>333401881
>Regen doesn't work in timestop
Neither does igms, the damage is not applied till time stop ends.
There's a reason druid is god tier
>>333399563
Ah, that explains it. I've never used Barkskin, so I didn't know how it looked.
>enter some cellar to unlock a chest
>fail on the first row
>my whole party rushes in and starts hitting the chest
>they cant damage it but they keep going
>i cant leave because they are at the door
Fuck.
>>333402561
It looks okay on everything that isn't giant. It's the same texture size for every object so if it's big it stretches it out and looks ugly.
>>333402136
Time Stop depends heavily on what you can do during the time stop
there's a good reason that p&p wizards are vastly more op than their game equivalent
>>333402136
>Neither does igms, the damage is not applied till time stop ends.
Yeah, over 1k damage tics instantly as multiple casts of igms hits the druid. Regen ticks every round. That's every 6 seconds. A druid will be long dead before that.
>>333402920
go to voice commands
select the one that reads "follow me"
congrats
>>333403190
and of course tell them you don't want them to attack chests every time you fail opening one
>>333403190
Gonna play NWN 2 campaign soonish and I'm thinking of pick up Frenzied Berserker. Any build advise for SP? Should I get diplomatic skills?
>>333403463
>non charisma protagonist in singleplayer
but why?
>>333403171
That's not how regenerate works, it heals every 6 seconds from when it was cast.
>>333403463
given that the only class skills the frenzied berserker has are intimidate, survival and parry you might as well go for it
survival is useless and parry is only good if you have a defensive build, which would defeat the purpose of a frenzied berserker
that said your lack of a decent diplomacy skill will hurt during certain portions of the game but build wise you can't really fuck up a frenzied beserker as long as you stick to full BAB classes everything is compatible with it, its a fairly braindead class
>>333403190
>>333403463
Sorry, didn't mean to quote you.
>>333403519
I like the idea of a raving madman avenging his village by killing absolutely everything.
>>333403885
I looked around the NWN2 wiki and there's a feat that makes your not-class skills into class skills as long as one other class has them.
Maybe I should get a 1level of bard or something and invest into diplomacy?
Is ADwR a meme mod or actually good?
>>333404056
frenzied berserker has 2+ int modifier skill points and int is a dump stat for it
you'll most likely have just enough points to keep a single skill maximized if you go with the typical int stat of 8 unless you're going for a weapon master/frenzied beserker hybrid in which case you simply won't have the room for a level in bard or swashbuckler (only full BAB class with diplomacy as a class skill)
>>333404678
It's great.
Probably the best low level D&D campaign ever.
>>333404678
It's has good rogue gameplay, the smut is not the main focus of it.
>>333404883
the sequel however is higher level and kinda sucks
>>333404943
It's more linear, but overall it's not bad.
It's kind of impressive how different you can play it depending on which characters you recruit in the first town.
>>333403859
With base gear, level 40, assuming a druid maxed out wisdom on every 4th level and took all 10 great wis (somehow) you can get something like 15 regeneration casts (base + extended) and 14 monstrous regeneration (base + quicken).
So 90 hp from regeneration, 39 from monstrous regeneration. That's 129 damage regeneration in a period of 6 seconds.
Nah, IGMS will eat everything up. If you got a bear I'll just cast more.
>>333404678
Its a shitty porn game/mod, ignore anyone who says its actually good.
>>333404889
can I play it with one hand and jerk off at the same time
>>333405285
>shitty porn game where 99% of the porn is optional
>>333405253
Oh you poor thing
Druids gets infinite spells per day thanks to shape shift bug, didn't you know?
I can LITERALLY have HUNDREDS of Regenerations stacked ontop of eachother
I thought you said you knew NWN
Like i said, Druid is God tier for a reason.
>>333404705
ah I was wrong about something, here's the list of classes with full BAB that also have access to diplomacy as a class skill
Base class:
Paladin
Swashbuckler
Prestige Class
Neverwinter Nine
Blackguard
however a Paladin is incompatible with frenzied berserker (the former requires lawful good alignment the latter requires chaotic) and the Neverwinter Nine requires a special feat you only get 3/4th throughout the game
Blackguards also require 5 ranks of hide, a skill which is literally useless for a frenzied beserker and the fact you can only reach it at lv 7 means you'll miss all early diplomacy checks and requires you to be evil
>>333405569
>Druids gets infinite spells per day thanks to shape shift bug
not him but explain pls
>>333405404
you only need one hand for the porn sections, yes
3E > 2E
>>333405569
in NWN2 they're a lot more balanced
sure druids are still the most powerful class lv 1 to 10 but that's because dinosaur companion is downright insane at that lv
>>333405569
Not him but exploiting bugs isn't really helping your case.
>>333406082
3.5 is okay as long as you ban every spellcasting class in the player's handbook
>>333405569
>Expoits
Nah.Git gud scrub
>>333405794
hotkey wild shape
hotkey a spell
hit wild shape then instantly hit the spell when your character changes. this causes the game to think the spell was a creature ability, this has 3 benefits, A) you never run out, B) it bypasses the standard cast time, C) you cant be counter spelled.
>>333406116
exploiting RAW is entirely within the spirit of 3E
>>333406239
3.5 is only fun when you break shit with spellcasting you disgusting barbarian
>>333406324
Sure you keep telling yourself that.
>>333406082
Nah not even close. NWN is still fun though.
>>333406116
>>333406291
NWN is full of bugs, some bad some good, some are avoidable some are not, crying about them just makes you a scrub by very definition, they are in the game deal with it.
Druid is undisputed god tier in NWN1
>>333406395
psionics > vancian casting
>>333406239
DON'T DO THAT
>>333406478
>exploiting bugs to be unbeatable
>calling others scrubs
Anon, you're "that" kid.
>>333406097
Not messed around with the Dino much in NWN2 whats it like in epic levels, should i bother wasting the feats or just focus on casting?
>>333406687
70% of everything wrong with 3.5 is the core spellcasting though
>>333373448
>Wanting /v/ tier shit campaign
Enjoy your cuck and sjw spam, which is just epic.
