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is this the worst DLC ever?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjASHR7F79Q

Discuss.
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Yeah.
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>>333273486
It's not horse armor or hearthfire.
But it is close.
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For $5 no. That would be bl2s torguesgiving, complete with the rablings of grandma torgue
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>>333273662

I'm pretty sure this DLC alone is the reason the GECK has taken so long to release. Hell, even without GECK there are settlement mods that are objectively better than this DLC.
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Hey look, we downloaded some mods from nexus! That'll be $20, and remember to buy our next great DLC.
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The fuck?
isn't that just the mod tools?
will they be paid content?
Is it just a neutered casual toy tool?
Explain motherfuck
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Bah I saw the title and I hoped there was new Wastlenad 2 content. Wasteland 2 is pretty dope
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>>333273486
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
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Every DLC apart from Far Harbor are all things people have modded in the past 2 fallout games. Bethesda is just milking this fat cow of fallout to death before throwing us the GECK to fix their broken piece of shit game.
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>>333273847

From what I can tell the only thing that is being offered here which you can't already get with mods is the animal capturing.

Even that seems like something that modders would have done already if the GECK had been released already. Training animals seems dumb anyway.
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>>333273847

It's not the mod tools. It's just some shallow added content.
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>>333273486
it literally doesn't add anything to the boring existing gameplay but give you more things to make the game much easier.
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>This
This is shit. This is an embarrassment.
It's nothing but shit modders make. And the worst part is, people will buy it (or bought the Season Pass.)
I want to vomit.
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>>333273486
>literally all things you can do with mods or player.placeatme
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>>333273486
release date when?
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So... is there a list of what exactly it adds? Cause yeah. I want to see how shit it is in detail.
Also,
>This soon after the last "DLC."
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>>333274327

Yea exactly. I'm genuinely embarrassed for bethesda.
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People still play a FO4?
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>>333273486
If this DLC comes with new attacks on your settlements to use all the traps and pets, it will be fun. If not, it will be mediocre. When I played, I got attacked twice. Once by raiders, once by mutants. The settlement attacks were pretty underwhelming after I built all that defense. I want more attacks like the synth and brotherhood attacks on the castle. Those were fun fights.
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>>333274474

I'm playing again for the new survival mode.

It's pretty fun, I'm not sure how viable it will be late game when dealing with the courser and shit but we'll see.
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>>333274369
>This soon after the last "DLC."
I believe their plan is to release a different set of DLC each month.
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>>333274664

Honestly survival mode is the best thing they've released so far and it wasn't even DLC, but an update.

Automatron was good fun too, but it didn't take long to complete. Robot building is bretty cool i guess.
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>>333273486
For 5$? No. I won't be playing it tho because Dark Souls 3 is on 12th April.
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>>333274474
>#1 most-played single-player steam game daily
>among the top 10 most-played games on Steam daily

Not sure if you area retarded or what.
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So what is this, just more expansion on the building element? This isn't supposed to be a 20 dollar Broken Steel or Old World Blues for FO4 is it? Because, yeah this looks like the worst.
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>>333275013

It's only $5.

A complete waste of $5, but $5 nonetheless.
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>>333275013
It's $5. The 1st big expansion comes next month, far harbor
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>>333273486
No
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>>333275013
It's Hearthfire.
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>>333275013
It's $5. Gives you more settlement stuff and the ability to trap and tame animals
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>>333273486
Why did they think just adding some stuff to possibly the most boring and gimmicky part of Fallout 4 was a good idea?

Fallout 4 still completely lacks world size, interesting quests, towns, gear, etc. and the last two DLCs haven't been helping a whole lot.
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can't wait for someone to make this exact same DLC with a mod and release it for free
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>>333275085
>>333275089
>>333275143

Oh, not so bad, but still seems pretty retarded. Like stuff they planned to have with the building / settlement customization but couldn't fit in before launch so they just bundled it and sold it on for more money a few months down the track.
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>mfw I bought the season pass

This is the first and last one. I was so stupid.
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>>333273486
Those comments jesus christ
>Gosh, the gaming community is just getting more toxic every year. Seriously, you guys appreciate nothing.
>wow look at the entitled babies in the comments jesus learn to be patient :/

thanks for the workshop guys i can finally make a house that does not look like its made of scrap with deathclaw guards i just hope i can make one a traveling buddy XD
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>>333273486
EARTH THINKS IT CAN STOP ME?! ME?!

I'M GONNA DESTROY THIS PLANET ONCE AND FOR ALL
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>just a bunch of small mods we could have gotten for free if they didn't deliberately take forever to release the GECK
Bethesda is pure trash. The people purchasing this are even worse.
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>>333275292

Well assuming you really like Far Harbor when it's released at least you can rest assured you only paid $30 for $25 of actually enjoyable content.

Of course, the post-Far Harbor DLC might be good too (but i doubt it)
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>>333274952
fo4 is barely more popular than skyrim
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>>333275191
Because it's the part that people spend a shit ton of time in?
Because people love building shit?
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The quality of the DLC doesn't matter if the game it belongs to is rockbottom shit.
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>>333275461
Mods
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>>333273778
They said they'll release the geck after the major dlc, this is the reason why
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>>333275461
Don't you ever post a google trends graph as evidence of something's popularity ever again.
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>>333275563
>tfw have too many tabs open and thought you meant Dark Souls 2
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>>333273778
>even without GECK there are settlement mods that are objectively better than this DLC
Not that I'm defending this shit DLC but don't be so fucking stupid. All of those mods just add a bunch of assets that are already in the game. These are all new building tools with unique functions.
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>>333275461
Skyrim is a Bethesda game with a billions of mods available, ofc it is popular. Compared to any other single-player made by some other developer, Fallout 4 is the most alive. It doesn't even have it's modding kit out yet.
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>1 year after release
>still unable to place objects like Nuka Cola Bottles to decorate your home and have them stay there without being flung out of the house or melt through the ground
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>>333273662
Herathfire was easilly better than this. It at least added in a pretty major gameplay system that wasn't part of the base game before (without some dodgy, unstable mods).

This is literally nothing more than a "stuff pack", it adds nothing of significant value.
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>>333275825
Some do

>>333275912
There's a mod for that
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>>333275912
There's a mod that do that.
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>>333273486
All of that is stuff that should have been in the game on release.
Also, how much do you wanna bet that this was intended to be a free patch like they originally promised, but got repackaged as DLC during their season pass price increase?
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>>333275984
to excuse that season pass increase
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>>333275925
>pretty major gameplay system
?????????????
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>>333276206
You could adopt children to make pedo mods more viable
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>>333273997
groovy, now lets take a look at what things would be like if Obsidian did this
>WOWEE.
>GOAT DEV
>PERFECT 5/7
>SEE, OBSIDIAN LISTENS TO THE FANS AND KNOWS WHAT THEY WANT
>ONLY A GREAT DEV LIKE OBSIDIAN WOULD SEE SOMETHING THAT WAS A MOD AND MAKE IT OFFICIAL FOR ALL TO ENJOY
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>>333276126
I actually realised they did add a little more, so I deleted the comment.
Still barely anything. I bet it will end up costing like £10. Other one cost fucking 8.
Absolute fucking rip offs.
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I hope they don't add settlements to the next TES game. Player houses are cool but managing a bunch of villages is not.

Morrowind have the right idea for what to do with all the clutter: make it valuable. It was fun breaking into houses and stealing all the silverware.
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Just release the fucking GECK already. Holy shit.
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>>333276381

lol i'm no obsidiot and i like all the fallout games, but you gotta admit that New Vegas DLC was top notch. There was like 3 completely new maps and storylines + gun runners shit.

Hell, even F3 had point lookout, the pitt, and the mothership.

FO4, so far at least, only seems to be giving us one such DLC (far harbor). They say it's the biggest single piece of addon landmass they've ever made, but will it be larger and more quest rich than the three new areas we got from F3 and FNV?

I hope so, but i doubt it.
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>>333276381
Except Obsidian wouldn't make such shameless DLC, everything in New Vegas was much better; and if you bring up starter packs like the Courier Stash then those were pre-order bonuses you shit.
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>>333276502
It's already been said it's going to be $5 USD, friend.
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>>333273486
My problem is what's the point? Besides having a few hours to yourself to decorate a house, it serves no purpose. It's like Hearthfire but less, if you can imagine that. It's literally new items, no new features, no new companions to mix up the house crafting, no new weapon crafting options, and most impotantly, no option to increase random enemy encounter scaling. Maybe I wanna see the Minutemen in the castle fight off Mirelurk Queen and her horde with massive defenses and upgraded guns.

Nope. Just more minecraft stuff that serves no purpose to the gameplay.
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>>333273486
>"Capturing them is fun, but letting them out? HELL YEAH! >:) "
Are Bethesda's writers literally 12?
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>>333273486

its dumb shit that mods would have given us for free, but at least its only $5, so they recognize that its bullshit.
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>>333275308
Sounds like the steam forums desu senpai
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>>333276560
Building up Raven Rock in the Morrowind expansion was pretty good.
It could work for TES if you had one base that you could build up however you like.

F4 fucked it up by having a hundred meaningless settlements. TES could make it good by letting you build one big important settlement and letting you pick where you wanted to build it.
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>>333276749
Their main market is 12. They're writing to that.

Their main market isn't actually 12 but they think it is.
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>>333276708
bout tree fiddy in GBP
Not bad I suppose. Still can't believe that Automatron shite though
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>>333276720
To make money?

Believe it or note but sometimes things are put into circulation
To make money

>Do people like thing?
>Yes
>Do people want more of thing?
>Yes
>Then let's sell it
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>>333276749
I'd act retarded as my fanbase too if that meant selling a DLC for $5 that would eventaully cash out make me millions of dollars. I mean, at this point, Bethesda knows they don't even need to try anymore
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>>333276690
>what is GRA
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>>333273486
BECAUSE OUT HERE THERE ARE

_NO_ _RULES_
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>>333276920
I do all that for what? An outfit, a gimmicky gun, and a shitty settlement.
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>>333276381
>Bethecuck beings this mad that Obsidian made GOAT DLC consisting of 3 big maps with tons of quest and dialog lines with great story.
loving every kek , familia. I bet those robots are fun huh. im gonna be enjoying my new full maps and stories that fit perfectly into the game.
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>>333276802
Except on steam forums you can tell who is trolling and who isn't.
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PET CATS!
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>>333277030
This, but at least they released 4 stellar expansion packs before it so I'm not mad about it.

Most people got it through the GOTY edition anyway
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>>333277134
I suppose it was because of the quest.
Even though it was incredibly short, and made no fucking sense. Pete Hines absolutely loves pissing all over Fallout's lore
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>>333277169
You can? I cannot stand the place usually other than to see if devs like to hide patch notes on the forums instead of the news section which has happened with a few games I played.
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>>333277253
He wrote it? Shit, maybe I'll just learn Czech and check out that mod some oldfags were shilling for fallout 2.
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>>333273486
Yes.
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>>333277030
Fair point, but the weapons and challenges were really good.

So 4/5 ain't bad at all.
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>>333277450
Reskins of stuff in game in some cases that could only take certain mods?
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>>333277558
That's why I rated it as bad, the 4/5 is all the DLC in total.
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>>333277408
Well, not really, but holy shit this guy is the Vice President of Bethesda, and he was saying shit like

>not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls
on twitter.
It seems Fallout 4 is so lazy, that they have to rely on everything from the previous games that were iconic. Even if it makes no fucking sense.
First three characters, then Liberty Prime, now this. It's so fucking cheap.
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>>333273486
>most of the shit already done by the modders
>traps in your settlement
I can't wait to see my settlers walk aimlessly into those traps and die one by one.
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>>333277721
Oh I must be reading it as a 4/5 as in its good but not perfect not 4/5 as in the 4th worst dlc
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Why on earth would I want to pay money for this? So I can do all this completely pointless shit? Build traps that don´t really do anything anyway? Dude Raiders at sanctuary hills lmao. Decorate my virtual home with some animals I´ve killed. All this adds nothing to the game, and the game is just mediocre on all levels. Why would I waste money and time... on THAT?

Ok guys, how could we make our mediocre game better? Oh I know, add more mediocre stuff to it, that has no point at all without fixing any of the inherent problems with the game. BRILLIANT!
Holy shit Todd get your fucking shit together.
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>>333277804
Yeah, looking back at my post it did imply that; my mistake.
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>>333277782
Presumably there is a hostile trigger. Who am I shitting? That indicator will have to be modded in because YouTube let's players will want to laugh at the retarded AI.
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It's a shame the traps didn't make it into the main game.
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>>333273486
Wow it's completely useless. The settlement-building feature sucks ass and this doesn't do anything to help it.
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>>333277838
Are people so dense that they can't see that people still liked the settlement building and want more variety in it?
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>>333277970
There are traps, such as the tesla arc or whatever it's called, but in order for it to even do anything useful you need to hook it to a switch and then throw it when an enemy gets near.
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>>333277782
>>333277969
There's already flame thrower and arc traps.
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So wait, is far harbor the only actual expansion we're getting?
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>>333278163
So far yes and even then dont get your hopes up but they have said they have more DLC that they havent announced yet
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>>333278163
Of the planned ones they showed us yes

It was worded to imply there'd be more coming
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This seems pointless to me because the kind of autist that likes shit like this will just play games like ARK and Rust instead. Bethesda are retarded.
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>>333278163
Yes, they say they have "lots of DLC" in the works but don't hope for much this year.
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>>333278234
So it's going to be an embarrassment?
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>>333278259
People are still going to buy it because they want more added to the wasteland builder
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>>333278320
Probably, the only reason I semi like more DLC is that it gives more assets and tools for modders when the GECK comes out
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>>333278320
Who knows
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>The reason why the creation kit is delayed is because Bethesda wants to churn out more of this shit
>Mods would have put these type of shit to shame
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Wow, more defenses against attacks that take all of two seconds to defeat.
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I wouldnt be surprised if they dont allow mods for consoles as then people wont need to buy this shitty dlc
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>>333276749
wow dude u dont like building stuff lol?? xD
gee stop whining and apperciate Bethesda Softworks tremendous work!!! ;DD
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>>333278543
A company led by a man who is a pathological liar? Never.
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Still better then Zeta.
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>>333278006
No man, I understand why people like things. I can see that people like this kind of stuff. But if I want to decorate my goddamn home, I go play Sims. The problem I see is just that Fallout 4 is supposed to be an RPG Egoshooter. The RPG falls flat on the face already, the Egoshooter is actually ok. I liked the weapon upgrade stuff. But you can´t tell me that the best thing that comes out of an RPG Egoshooter is... Settlement building. So much that they make a DLC based on that. I wanted an RPG Egoshooter and I got Sims: Fallout edition.
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>>333278630
He lied about loads of shit when it came to skyrim as well stuff like a system when weather would do things and stealing crops would make towns "poorer" and etc
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>>333278735
The Sims is a better home builder than this. The mechanics work more often to begin with.
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>>333278234
>>333278259
>>333278287
Does that mean we're getting anot her season pass then?
Because automatron and this workshop shit are 15 bucks together and far harbor is going to be 25, that's 40 bucks in total.
That either means we're getting two more workshop sized dlcs or one more automatron sized one. Definitely don't see them doing a 25 dollar sized expansion with how much the current season pass is.
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>>333273486
i can do this and more with mods.

just give us the fucking geck so someone can make it a legit fallout
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Can we all take a moment to realize that consoles STILL don't have access to mods whatsoever and there has been almost no talk about it since the launch of the game.

How mad would you be if your justification for getting the console version was that mods would finally be available?

hahaha i love it.
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>>333276005
texture swaps of existing models aren't new models
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>furniture DLC
please no
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>>333278931
Terxture swaps?
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>>333278839
Honeslty what I think they are doing is a monthy based DLC system with a medium small and then big one and they will continue doing this until they stop earning money which will be never
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>>333278931
No anon, there is a mod that has you put items in your settlement as static objects instead of physics enabled litter.
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>>333278882
peasants will have to pay for mods
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>>333279090
Kek, BRAND NEW EXTRA APPLE MOD 69.99
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>>333278972
I need more of this man's reviews in my life
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>>333278972
How far we have fallen that the same shit that was looked down on then is now either grudgingly accepted or embraced as the norm.
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>>333279029
ill make my own damn typos thank you
>>333279029
nah i was referring to "some do" for new model assets, ive used the fixed objects one
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>>333275292

It could be worse bro, I got drunk and bought the season pass version of the division. 100 dollarydoos down the fucking drain
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>>333273486
>they added shitty dlc with no story or new settings to justify the increased price season pass price
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>>333275292
What the fuck is a "season pass" anyway?

My friends always tell me to buy one for a new game and I never do.
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>>333279890
Borrowed sports terminology to make the normies feel better about dropping $110 on one video game.
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>>333279890
Only oneed I got was for rainbow six siege and I still regret doing that for such a dead game. Shame too as I had fun with it before it died.
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>>333279890
Basically it's a preorder for all the DLC that will come out for a game later down the track. Because it's a preorder and you have no idea what you'll get, it's cheaper than buying them individually when it comes out.
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>>333279890
It's a sweet deal, kid, you'll like it.

I got it for Colonial Marines and haven't regretted it once.
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>>333274341
One week from today.
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>>333275143
>Trap enemies*

You can trap shit like raiders and such as well.
I wonder if you will be able to trap large enemies like Mirrlurk Queens.
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I hope some anon leaks this DLC like the robot one so I dont have to pay Bethesda
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>>333280582
You can trap deathclaws, so I would imagine so.
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What is the GECK?
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>>333273486

For those playing the new Survival Mode Beta - are the enemies still complete bullet sponges as before?
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>>333280734
Mod creation kit, allows you to accese all files and edit cells and etc
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>>333273486
So a bunch of shit that should have been in the base game.
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>>333276381

>redirecting
>bait this shitty

can't blame you, you got three idiots to reply seriously
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>>333280831
Bethesda is dropping it?
Is it only for PC?
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>>333273486
In pounds it's cheap
It's literally the fucking price of two cans of Coke you fucking idiots stop complaining.
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>>333281119

No they aren't dropping it.
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>>333280737

You and the enemies die much, much faster.

Getting shot is pretty serious now. Especially if you're sick/tired/hungry/thirsty since it lowers your HP among other things.
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>>333281165

Damn son, coke is expensive in bongland
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>>333278972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwf-lRjD9IU
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>Can have settlers fight your captures
>Marcy Long vs Mirelurk King

Neat.jpg
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>>333281119

It is only for PC, but will be used to make mods which might make it to Consoles, assuming they are still doing that.

They release the GECK for all of their games, usually soon after release. They have been holding back on FO4 so they can charge us for stupid shit like the subject of this thread.
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>>333281165

>Brits pay 5$ for two cans of Coke
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Jesus fucking christ
who keeps paying actual money for this bullshit
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>>333281119

Basically all the best mods for bethesda games are made using GECK and/or the TES equivalent of the GECK is.

It's the same tool bethesda used to make the game.
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>>333281165
Where the fuck are you shopping that coke cans are £2.50
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>>333273486

So are this and Automatron two thirds of the season pass?

Thank fucking god I didn't buy into the season pass meme
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>>333281165
>it's cheap, therefore it's okay!
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>>333281573
>tfw Bethesda made spear animations for skyrim
>still can't use them and modders still haven't made their own.
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I know this isn't the best DLC, but I fucking love it when they randomly announce release dates like this and the date itself is so fucking close.
That alone makes me a little hyped even though I know I'll probably only sink 2-3 hours max on this.
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Fuck thought this DLC might be good seeing as how automatron was a good start. but christ that trailer
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>>333275292
Would you rather not have this season pass cover these smaller DLCs? I'm not saying the idea of a season pass is good, but Bethesda is doing this right. I don't know how many season passes I've seen where they only cover the larger DLCs and not all the smaller nickle and dime ones, like this one.
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>>333281165
free if you torrent it
that means I have 2 cans of coke to enjoy
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>>333281643

That's pretty much how it goes. You get what you pay for.

Do you go to a store and start yelling at the clerk because the shoes they sell for next to nothing are made out of plastic?
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>>333281607
From what i hear after far harbor will be more DLC, but released later in the year. but not sure. wouldn't put it past bethesda to make you pay 50 bucks for 2 small and one big dlc
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>>333281779
And no teeth later?
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>>333281573
>It's the same tool bethesda used to make the game.
The same way Hammer is "the same tool Valve use to make their games"?
Don't kid yourself, whatever you're getting in terms of modding tools is just a gimped out kiddie version, usually severely out of date (and in Valve's case a bugged piece of shit too).
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>>333281607
Pretty sure they're adding more content since the total price of all the announced DLC is $40 and the current Season Pass is $60.
Assuming this you're already saving $10 if you thought this and Automatron worth actually worth buying.
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>>333273486
Now compare this to The Pitt, which cost roughly the same.
These DLCs are pitiful compared to Fallout 3's.
Bethesda are riding the coattails of their past successes and putting in the minimum amount of effort possible.
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>>333273486
>Bethesda holding off modding tools so they can try to sell paid mods they ever so failed to implement with Skyrim
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I'm not defending season passes here, I'm just pointing out that almost no other game has a season pass that covers all the DLC released which many people seem to be overlooking. Bethesda's Season Pass is actually covering all DLC released, including the 4 expansions they have planned.
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>>333281860
So we are at 15 now right? That would mean the third one would have to be 35 to even out.
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>>333281985
>were actually worth buying

Fuck me
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>>333282039
These count as "expansions".
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>>333281932
Cept geck/creation kit has always been good, and the mods made by people have been better then anything bethesda could make. May not be the tools they actually use but its good enough
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>>333281607
these are just smaller DLC's that were originally not going to be included in the pass, but they bumped the price of the pass up to include the smaller ones
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>>333282013
Passive aggressive behavior always waits a while to stew before an outburst. You remember that statement when they were pulled?
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>>333282039
you little shit do you even understand that the idea of a season pass is to give you all the dlc
they're doing the absolute bare minimum expected of them here
actually this is below even my expectations of them, speaking as someone who loathes modern fallouts and never played the originals
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>>333281806
Imagine someone offered your a small heap of dogshit for 3$. Wouldn't you be offended by the fact he tried selling you crap at the first place?
It's doubly offensive because they withholding the GECK from us because they want useful idiots like you to buy stuff that would've been available for free in the first week modding would've been out.
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>>333281806
>>Do you go to a store and start yelling at the clerk
No, because the clerk didn't do anything. Are people yelling at GoG/Steam for selling it, or are they voicing their opinion on the people who developed this hunk of shit?
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WHERE THE FUCK IS GECK? GIVE ME MY SEX MODS ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>333282401
Best we got so far is titty bodies and nude paintings of some girls all nude playthrough of skyrim
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I'm not even all that upset that the DLC might not be as expansive as the previous two games.

What is seriously triggering THE FUCK out of me is that they haven't released the GECK and it seems like we have no fucking idea when they are going to.

Seriously i'm triggered.
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>>333282091
Again, not defending it, I am just pointing out that neither of these are the first expansion, which is Far Harbor. Far Harbor was the first DLC you would get with the Season Pass before they bumped the price up to cover the smaller ones. You can call these whatever you want, it's semantics at this point.

>>333282180
Again, these are normally the smaller DLC's that wouldn't be included in the season pass. Look at every game on the market with a season pass and you will find loads of more content not covered by it. I am just pointing out the facts. I don't like reading statements that are just wrong, I have the moral obligation to set it right, no matter the discussion.
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>>333282401
gb2reddit
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>>333273486
Post YFW the next Elder Scrolls will have a voice acted Player Character
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>>333273486
>mfw the geck isnt even out yet and Bethesda already started copying mods
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>>333282620
>mfw I don't have a face
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>>333282528
How is that semantics you retard. Rather than getting FO3/NV sized content you are getting tiny dlc packs INSTEAD of it you retarded bethesdrone.

And what the hell are you praising them for including all dlc in the season pass? IE LIKE THEY ARE FUCKING SUPPOSED TO
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>>333274474
I'm still playing it. Its fun.
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>>333282620
and a new advanced dialog system that plays itself out

you dont even have to choose options
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>>333282620
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>>333282620
There are a lot of things Fallout 4 could have done better, the voice acting was not one of those things. Overall the peformances were pretty great, much better than being a mute with no agency or background.
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How much does it cost?
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>>333282620
I don't care much for the series after Skyrim. Skyrim was pretty fucking awful, and you just know it's only going to get shallower from here on out.
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>>333282872
5 shekels
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>>333282872

About tree fiddy if you're a britbong and $5 freedom bux if you hail from burgerland.

All other locations are irrelevant.
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>>333282191

No. There's people trying to sell me crap every single day on the street, everywhere on TV people are trying to sell me the most inane crap ever.

If I were to get mad every time someone tries to sell me worthless junk I'd be dead right now.

And the modding tools argument doesn't stand. You can say that about ANY content they could ever make. I mean, hell, if they could do it, modders could too right? Why even charge money for the game in the first place if someone else can do it.
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>>333279445
I'm sorry anon
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>>333282859
Protagonist VA is what fucking killed the game into near-unplayability. It's not about "performances", it's about the fact that you can't deliver a meaningful roleplaying experienced with a voiced character.
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>>333282859
i certainly hope this is bait
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>>333282859
Roleplaying games tend to tell better stories when you allow the player to create their own background and agency.
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>>333281551
they sweated normies by making you pay more later if you don't pay now
A tactic I can assume will trend.
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>>333273486
Horse Armor was worse but I'd say even Hearthfire was better than this
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>>333282895
It's true. It will probably reuse assets from skyrim, too. Because when something prints money for you, you immediately lose the ability to give a shit.
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>>333282726
>INSTEAD
Again, no you aren't. You are simply wrong. I am not defending it, but what would you rather have, buying the season pass and then having to pay additional money for the smaller dlcs? or buying a season pass that includes all dlcs?


I understand you are arguing for the sake of argument, but at least try to have a good argument.

Also, how am I praising them or even a bethesdrone when I even stated that I am not defending it? I have the moral obligation to set retards straight, no matter the topic or discussion.
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>>333283085
>>333283029
Roleplaying games are even better when devs are not restricted by VA costs at all. The issue isn't just having a voiced protagonist, it's about having voiced characters in general.
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>>333282967
>And the modding tools argument doesn't stand. You can say that about ANY content they could ever make.

No. Modders can only use the tools given to them. Bethesda could make additions to the engine and other advanced stuff. Having access to the source code gives way more power than the mod tools.
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>>333283121
>normies
fuck off redditard
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>>333283143
>tfw I am so depraved and lonely that having a kid tell me in game that I am amazing makes me smile.
>I have the same feeling when Cait said the same
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>>333282620
impossible with 10 different races. unless they give all humans, mer and beast races one voice each. Orc is sort of an exception to this I guess. maybe they could follow the NPC voices of Oblivion
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Bethesda really is outdoing themselves in how every subsequent release is more underwhelming than the last. You would have thought they'd learned their lesson by now....
.... This is the argument by an audience who can't cope with the fact that they're not the focus anymore. Bethesda knows perfectly well what they're doing and who they're appealing to.
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>>333283221

>he wants to read his video games
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>>333282859
B8 or retard
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>>333283143
this is horse armor being that it isn't an expansion :^)

guess we will have to wait until Far Harbor to see how it compares in expansion term (^:
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>>333283221
Of course. But as >>333283394 so eloquently put forward, why would kids nowadays read when they could have it spoken to them? They've got big bad super mutants to kill, their time is precious.
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>>333283319
That's fair
but all the same, the season pass increase will probably continue and spill onto other games.
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The Fallout 4 endings didn't give the same feels I felt during Fallout 3.
I felt nothing but emptiness because Shaun turned out to be a cunt.
The lack of a proper ending slideshow fucked me up, too.
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>>333283492
yeah, like modern Bethesda can make another Tribunal, Bloodmoon or SI. Dragonborn was ok I guess
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>>333281165

I can buy 8 cans of coke for £2.00

Holy fuck Bethesda drones are really this easy at getting scammed
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>>333277213
GET HYPED!
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>>333281165
lad stop shopping at waitrose they overcharge
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wait the geck still isnt out
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>>333282859

5 cents has been added to your account anon

From Bethesda Softworks
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>>333283887
Nope how else would they sell this shit?
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Perhaps Zenimax is the true villian in all of this...
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>>333282620
>yfw you're only able to play human races because of this
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I'm seriously crying my dick off over here.
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>>333283981
ha fuck me I was thinking earlier today I might check out what mods people cranked out with it
not sure why I assumed it was out
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>>333284221
Im still messing around with mods in NV since there are so many
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>>333282859
>being mute
>no agency
Should I pretend these things go hand in hand?
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>tfw I didn't buy F4 and have completely lost the desire to play it
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>>333284221

Even without the GECK, there are some darn decent mods out, you really gotta hand it to the modders for keeping modding alive and well.

Even so, RELEASE THE FUCKING GECK ALREADY BETHESDA, YOU FUCK.
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>>333284326
I think NV is the most time I've ever spent on a game thanks to modding it for years. Meanwhile I haven't even gotten more than halfway through a single faction story line in FO4 because I can't force myself to keep going.
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>>333284409

>tfw I did buy F4 and have completely lost the desire to play it
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>>333284514
I couldn´t last more than 3 hours playing this shit heap.
Thank god i didn´t blew 60 dollars on this.
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>>333284776
I bought it for £20 in a grangergames shop
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>>333285014
at least you didn´t for ripped off senpai. it could´ve been worse.
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>>333273486
>modded my game for full dialogue interface
>disabled player voice
>watch trailer
>takes me a second to remember that voice
>that is what the sole survivor sounds like
>mfw
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>>333276685
>but you gotta admit that New Vegas DLC was top notch.
They weren't. Only an obsidiot would claim shit like Dead Money was "top notch".
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>>333273486
>people actually think fallout 4 was Everton
>falling for the Bethesda cash-grab meme
>there are people playing it right now who have never experienced Fallout 1 or 2
>le "b-but we can mod it"
>wouldn't need mods if it was playable without any
>playing anything release by Bethesda after 2006
>no one saw horse armor part deux coming
>people thought automitron was actually worthy of dlc when other companies release actually good dlcs with hundreds more to do
>people like having their hands held through modern video games
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>>333282895
The only thing awful here is you opinion, yuriposter
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>>333286036

I also said

>i like all the fallout games

You literally cannot be an obsidiot if this is the case, my friend
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>yfw you don't actually go out and capture anything yourself
They've cut every corner and every expensive.
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>>333277838

I have several friends from my old job that spend hours building shit, so I can see how this would appeal to some people.
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>>333273486
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
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>>333286783
Wait, so how do you catch specific enemies like Mirelurk King or Deathclaws?

Is it all just RNG?
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>>333286783
What site did you use to download it
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>>333287343

Uh, anon... Everyone knows that. Nobody cares. RPG's are just literally snorefests for fatguys. Anyone who thinks they're "Brainy" or "Make you smarter" is just a sniveling RPG Codex Cuck. Things like DPS, XP per minute and just raw fast action is the way of the future.
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>>333286783

If it's all RNG so help me god i'm going to shit my own dick.
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>>333287629
Take pics
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>>333287550
sup pete hines
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See this is why you don't buy the season pass. You'd save money to just buy Far Harbor.
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>>333286036
Dead Money was great it just wasn't great for an RPG. It felt like a BioShock expansion with the survival horror and constant barking of somebody through a radio. Nonetheless I enjoyed it and the storytelling told through notes and terminals
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>>333287629

I always do.
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At least survival mode is really good.
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