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Will this be a multi-million seller? Hope so, feels like Insomniac
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Will this be a multi-million seller? Hope so, feels like Insomniac desperately needs a hit after Fuse and Sunset Overdrive
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>>333249110


will this game have a difficulty toggle?
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Have they tried not making shit games? This comes out later in the UK, so I'm going to check out opinions before I buy.
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>>333249110

Definitely. People would buy it for an introduction to the series, nostalgia and/or in anticipation of the movie, (which looks like it may be the first video game movie that's "acceptable" on critique sites).
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Sony finally didn't put a movie on ps4?
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>>333249278
their only shit games are the multiplatform ones.
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Daily reminder that this is a 30fps remake of a 60fps PS2 game
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will it come in a bundle? I want a ps4 badly but all the bundles are shit
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>>333249421
Can you source that?

First I've heard of it and I'd like to know before hand.
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>>333249110
it still baffles me how naughty dog is considered one of the best developers in the business all because of witty dialogue and Sucker Punch and insomniac or any developer that has clearly made better games than ND don't get the recognition they deserve or aren't treated like a special snowflake.
i don't get why ND gets away with all this praise.
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Wonder if Sony have contracted Insomniac to make the new Crash. Rumor is that R&C has been effectively done for months after the movie got pushed.

>>333249429
I 100% guarantee it will be in a family-friendly bundle at Christmas. Sony bundles the living shit out of their games.
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>>333249484
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-s-ratchet-clank-runs-at-1080p-30fps-is-about-1/1100-6427990/
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I don't know, yeah probably because of the movie.

Looks fun.
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>>333249278
the only shit game the made are, all for one, full frontal assault and fuse, the rest are fantastic.
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>>333249484
not him, but I googled it, which I'm sure took a lot less time than you asking him to spoonfeed you
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>>333249543
Damn, I was hoping for something closer to the game's release.
I have a shot ton of money right now and would love to buy a ps4 for the start of summer but, I just there were better bundles right now!
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>>333249524
Because casuals gobble up shit like uncharted and TLOU and call it 10/10 because they needed to be reminded every 10 seconds that their hobby is like totally mature and adult.

In reality those games are 7-8/10
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>>333249524
Because Naughty Dog makes le cinematic experiences
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>>333249110
>Will this be a multi-million seller?

No, sorry anon.
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>>333249687
Well, the game is $40, it's not a full-priced title.
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Why did they change Drek's eyes?

It was his third most distinctive feature, after his size and his oddly shaped head.
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>>333249421
As long as its stable, which it looks like it is I don't even care, it looks beautiful
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>>333249751
>tfw getting it for 32$ on launch
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>>333249524
Insomniac and sucker punch dont make games that are basically movies anon
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>>333249687
You could always get a bundle then trade in the games, or just buy a ps4 on its own, I think its a cheaper game.
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>>333249524
Cause zombies, grimdark, Nolan North, Ellen Page, Reddit, etc.
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>>333249778

This. Nexus' worst sin was unstable 30fps, not 30fps outright
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>>333249421
>Movie tie in
>Focus on "Improved Visuals" but only 30 fps
>40$ discount title

I'm worried friends.
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>>333249110
why do you care?
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>>333249803
>meaty blood elf
what is this sorcery?
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>>333249524
SP doesn't get the fan acclaim, but they do from Sony at least.
Sony wouldn't have decked them out with a nice brand new mocap studio if they didn't.

While Second Son was fun, it didn't live up to the earlier Infamous games, But I DO like SP, and can't wait to see what they do next.
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>>333249862
It's a fuck-ton of effort to make modern games with cutting-edge graphics run at 60fps.

The movie literally uses the plot of the first game, it's an excuse to reboot/remake the series.

Sony just realises it's tough to make people pay $60 for single-player cartoony mascot platformers in 2016. They aren't Nintendo.
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>>333249986

>It's a fuck-ton of effort to make modern games with cutting-edge graphics run at 60fps
Maybe don't spend so much money on cutting edge graphics. And then you save money and get 60fps
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>>333250130
Few people care that much about 60fps, Anon.
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>>333249986

Yeah its 2016. Shooters, Sports, and Open world games are worth full price. Platformers suck. Oh and mobile games have taken over.

Go 2016!
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>>333249751
Oh, I didn't know that.
>>333249832
Shit I didn't think about just selling the game! Thanks man! Guess I'll have to do that.
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>>333249110

>Will this be a multi-million seller?

Ahahaha fuck no, the PS4 is good for selling multi-plats, that's it. It's exclusives sell like shit, let alone niche exclusives.

The PS4 generation doesn't give a fuck about Insomniacs past pedigree, in fact all they know about them is Fuse and Sunset Overdrive sucked, why would they give a shit about some stupid kids game. Normies won't want it because it's for kids, kids won't want it because it's for kids.

So who does that leave, nostalgiafags? First of all nostalgia is horseshit, Nintendo managed to build up a pseudo nerd culture around it's old games in turn giving them a viable market, people confuse that with Nostalgia. In reality Nostalgia is a handful of 25-30 somethings who lives suck enormous amounts of dick and they pine to recapture the joys of their youth by sitting around on message boards all day. And granted, there are a fucking ton of sad as fuck 25-30 somethings out there, but they're nothing compared to the primary sales market that is the 10-20 retards who lap up garbage like Destiny/COD/FIFA year after year.
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>>333249110
Wasn't Sunset Overdrive really popular?
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>>333250130
There is nothing wrong with 30fps in certain games.
R&C isn't fast enough to need the 60fps advantage.
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>>333250230

Playing devils advocate here. Can you back any of that up?
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>>333250376
It was an Xbone exclusive. What do you think?

>>333250230
Dunno. There's barely any family or platformer games for PS4, It's an untapped market. Plus the movie tie-in should help market it.

Plus Ratchet isn't *that* kiddy. Big guns to shoot shit up has universal appeal.
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>>333250376
Maybe half a million in sales. Sony/M$ don't have the attach rate Nintendo does so despite selling more consoles their exclusives have the tendency to not sell quite as much. IE Splatoon almost doubling Bloodborne's sales with like a quarter of the consoles out in the wild.

Not throwing shade in any direction. I thoroughly enjoyed both BB and Splat.
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>>333250661
Did you like them both because they both involve squid kids?
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>>333250661

>playing bloodborne but liking nintenshit

Game was wasteded on you
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>>333250793
Well that certainly helped.
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>>333250797
I also have a gayman peecee. Does this trigger you?
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Seems to be selling well on Amazon.

Also, I'm pretty sure this sort of shit sells very well in Europe. It's not a US-centric title.
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>>333250869

I dont have a pc. I have a ps4. You are aware that there is 4chan app now yes?
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>>333251084
>You are aware that there is 4chan app now yes?
Oh dear god let that be false.
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>>333251287
Im posting from my phone

Get rekt nerd YEAH BUDDY who dabbin here?
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>>333249524
Naughty Dog makes good games, but they've been making movie games lately, which sell loads of money.
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>>333249110
I'm tempted to buy it and I don't even own a ps4.
I'm sure I'll get one eventually, just saving for a new PC for now.
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>>333250602

>There's barely any family or platformer games for PS4, It's an untapped market

It's a long dead and not particularly profitable market, it dried up towards the end of the PS2 era, they milked it for as long as they could throughout the PS3 era and it got steadily and steadily worse until everyone said fuck it.

Knack didn't help at all, it set the entire generation up for failure on that front and pretty much fucked it for everyone else.

Smaller titles like The Last Tinker: City of Colors are great, but sell like shit.

Tearaway Unfolded, great game, well known devs, sold like absolute shit, twice.

The reality is, anyone who wanted those sorts of games, bought a WiiU, the PS4 can't even shift stuff like Bloodborne in significant numbers, it's going to really struggle with something like Ratchet.
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>>333251807
The Lego games sell shitloads of copies. Lego Batman sold 14 million. Then there's something like Skylanders, which sold a shitload until Activision Activisioned it to death.

The problem is that IPs got old and milked to death and devs moved on, and no-one really stepped up to replace them, not a lack of interest in the genre.
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>>333250376
can't wait for a sequel, it was an open world ratchet and clank with Tony hawk, tons of fun.
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>>333252191
>can't wait for a sequel
Nobody tell him
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>>333249409

Sunset Overdrive was an exclusive.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwsVFd8ICFM

I personally think the game looks enjoyable.
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>>333252668
>60fps
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>>333252668
Holy shit, the game is pretty.
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>>333249862
Into the Nexus was $40 and it was a great game.
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>>333252668
>one day I'll be able to play games that look like Pixar movies
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>>333252668
literal kek @ the boss dancing to the groovitron.
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>>333252003
>Then there's something like Skylanders, which sold a shitload until Activision Activisioned it to death.
Explain? I didn't know that Skylanders was losing steam.
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so i can settle with the rehashed weapons from the future series but please at least do a Lava Gun with them and upgrade them into something entirely different from their original iteration

Buzzblades better not become the Doomblades again. Give me something crazy like the Multi-Disk Launcher.
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>Port PS2 game to PS4.
>Lose half the framerate.
>There are people who will defend this as "remastering."
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>>333253491
>Port
Except that's wrong.
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>>333253491
>he thinks it's just a port instead of a complete remake/reboot
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Ratchet & Clank generally performs well.

Multi-million? I dunno.

I mean, the movie is going to help sales, I'd imagine.

>>333253491
This is a remake, not a port.

You might be confusing this with the Ratchet & Clank Collection, which was a port to PS3 and all games ran at their native framerate, naturally.

Insomniac as explained their rationale, and they did it years ago when ACiT was new.
60fps doesn't seem to have any relation to sales improvements. It's an extra effort that only a niche audience discerns.

So apparently, it isn't worth the bother.
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>>333253491

It's not a port nor a remaster, it's a "re-imagining", basically Isomniac were told it had to look as close to the movie as possible, irrespective of how badly it impacts the gameplay.

Gotta have dem graffics.
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>>333253442
Skylanders is struggling. Superchargers did badly, IIRC not charting when it was released, and Activision laid off a bunch of staff fairly recently (along with Guitar Hero Live)
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>>333253703
Honestly skylanders, while starting the business model, just can't compete with Disney Infinity now.

Doesn't stop them from doing a yearly release in october with a new gimmick though.

Meanwhile Infinity's gimmick is what....actual gameplay?
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>>333253802
Disney Infinity was successful? Shit, I am really out of the loop. I just remember seeing a few kids with Skylander stuff but not seeing any Infinity stuff.
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>>333253802
Honestly, it feels like the entire "toys-to-life" genre has peaked. They used to be inescapable in stores but it feels like few people gives a shit anymore. I barely see anyone even looking at the toys anymore.
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>>333253989
Infinity is like super successful right now as of 3.0. 2.0 did really well too.

Their big selling points right now is that when there's a big disney movie out, they can just release some figures/playsets for Infinity instead of making a dumb tie-in movie that nobody wants.
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>>333253703
You'd think they would've learned from Tony hawk, guitar hero, cod, not to make it a yearly release, specially if you're selling a game and a bunch of toys.
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>>333252265
They might pull a GoW Ultimate edition.
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>>333254106
Market's getting oversaturated. Doesn't help that WB hopped on the wagon a little late while at the same time putting everything they got out at once.
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>>333253989
star wars and marvel will do that to ya, nobody cared about Disney characters.
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>>333254140
if that means more chances to get a sequel, then so be it.
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>>333254172
Wait, what the fuck is this?
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>>333254136
Activision gonna Activision, endless sequels to diminishing quality leading to diminishing returns.

The cycle is going to continue with Destiny and Overwatch. Convinced it's just a matter of time until milking everything explodes on them imo.
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>>333254172
>gameplay is still the same shit since Lego star wars came out
>lock characters with abilities that other Lego games let you use without paying extra
>release 50 more Lego games before or after releasing this special snowflake Lego game
no wonder it bombed.
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>>333254462
>and Overwatch
I'm not really a fan of Blizzard or anything, but since when is regurgitating countless sequels a Blizzard thing?
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>>333249986
Fuck cutting edge graphics, the characters look fucking awful now. Give me remasters of R&C1/2/3/deadlocked but not fucked this time.
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>>333254545
WoW? You don't think Blizzards going to push them to milk the fuck out of it?
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>>333254545
Not exactly the same, but their expansions on WoW.
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>>333254828
>>333254826
Wasn't the last WoW expac like two years ago though?
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>>333252668
>you don't lure him into collapsing platforms he just charges into lava himself

They fucked the Blargian Snagglebeast.
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>>333254674
Uhh, the remasters were fine, plus the characters look great. The original Ratchet design was as ugly as fuck from the front.

(Also, the PS2 games have dated really well - been playing them recently)
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>>333254872
They have another one coming up, Legion. It's in alpha though.
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>>333252668
MR ZURKON STILL UNFUNNY AND USELESS AFTER 7 GAMES
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>>333255030
Yes, but two years is way different than shovelling out one new game per year, though.
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>>333255240
THEY DID MISTER ZURKON BETTER IN ALL THE OTHER GAMES

GIVE US THE AGENTS OF DOOM BACK INSTEAD OF THIS SHITTY FUCKING ROBOT
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>>333255428
Actually we do have the Glove of Doom

I don't think they showed any footage but it's quick select icon is there for sure
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>>333255567
So now there's no reason to take Mr Zurkon ever?
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>>333255643
Chances are the Glove of doom will do the RC1 thing and just seek and blow up instead of being summoned familiars.
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>>333255691
That's still better than Zurkon. Every time I used him he never did any damage that I couldn't easily outdo with my other weapons.
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>>333249110
If only they had been smart enough to tell Microsoft to fuck off and release sunset overdrive
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>>333249421
don't care. i'll support anything not released on pc.
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>>333249110
I was kinda hoping they would of actually use the weapons from the first game but have them upgrade, instead of just reusing tools lf destruction weapons again
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>>333256120
the only true legacy weapon I see is the Glove of Doom.

The Suck Cannon and Tesla Clawl don't even have analogues.
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>>333256502
>No chicken gun to suck cannon combo
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>>333257630
There's a transforming ray but it's not the Morph-o-Ray. it's the Sheepinator for reasons. Nefarious invents it and it uses the Critter Strike model from All-4-one (which had a sheepinator setting)
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>>333249110
I kind of hope so because I really love the franchise; but at the same time I wish they would just let it rest for a while.

The series and just the quality of games the studio have made in general has taken a nosedive after Crack in Time. I really wanted to like Nexus but they couldn't even keep the game running at a consistent 30FPS, the constant drops fucking killed it for me. Also the fact that they're locking all of their games at 30FPS because they want to focus on graphics because it sells is fucking retarded. R&C feels awful as fuck at that framerate.
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>>333257692
So Qwark is going to accidentally throw him into machinery right? Because if he becomes a robot any other way I'll be pretty mad, that was my favourite scene in UYA apart from when Qwark calls a taxi.
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>>333257692
But I thought megacorp made the sheepinator
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>>333257960
It's a reimagining so yeah.

Nefarious working for Drek kind of fucks things a bit since one of Qwark's legitimate hero deeds was killing Nefarious.
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>>333258201
All we know is that Qwark DID do something to Nefarious but the vid-comics might as well have just been fanfiction that Qwark wrote about himself.
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>>333258350
What? No they were all true, that's why Qwark wanted to hide the last one wasn't it? Because he wanted to hide what happened and his secret hideout.

Also, what other hero things has he done? Because with how much people seem to love him in game I had assumed he did more than just throw Nefarious into some operational machinery.
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>>333258530
the Vidcomics are based on eye witness accounts, bathroom gossip, wild speculation, and a magic 8 ball
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>>333258637
Which one did Slim Cognito specialize in?
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>>333257692
I don't like the purple look they've given him. Nefarious was perfect with blue steel.
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>>333258816
The purple thing was actually due to All-4-One because Clank's associated color was blue so they made Nefarious purple.
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This man was 26 and still in highschool. Galaxy's greatest hero.
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>>333258924
Wait really? I always associated him with silver since he was silver.

You'd think the character who was blue would be the blue one.
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>>333259168
I'm talking player colors for auras and other identification shit

Ratchet's was orange, Clank's was blue, Qwark's was green and Nefarious became purple.
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>>333259267
Oh alright, was All-4-One fun? I've been hesitant to buy more of the future games since I only had a good time with Tools of Destruction when I had an amazing time with the first four.
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>>333259378
It's like gauntlet but with ratchet and clank

also extreme emphasis on multiplayer
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When is the release date?
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>>333259462
Is it weird that I hate his fur now? His cheeks look weird too. He looked better when he was a solid color that indicated fur.
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>>333256120
Pretty sure the game is intended to be a greatest hits collection of sort. I did like the relatively sensible weapons.

>>333256502
The flamethrower is back, which is nice.
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>>333260117
It's back using the Pyro-blaster model.

it also has a really lazy fire effect, as in the fire instantly appears when the button is held and immediately disappears too. There's no lingering.
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>>333259462
Same day as Dark Souls III. In like a week.

which means i am going bankrupt
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>>333260219
Yeah, I agree the fire looks surprisingly rough. Still, it's the thought that counts.
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>>333259378
Not really, felt pretty underwhelming despite playing through it with multiple people. Even if you didn't think of it as a R&C game it was still pretty boring.

Full Frontal was actually not that bad for a spin-off, unfortunately the only good thing about it was the multiplayer and that's dead.
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>>333249110
I'll buy it but not at release.
Had a lot of fun with R&C on ps3
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>>333261429
I think quite a few people will do that, as this sort of game is more timeless and and so tends to have a longer lifespan and be less front-loaded than a typical game. The only downside is second-hand copies tend to flood the market for this sort of single-player game.
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>>333258530
The final Vid-Comic was a secret and had a different narrator (Slim Cognito), the others were mass-market releases.

The first 4 were all biased to make Qwark look like a hero.
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>>333259378
Crack in Time is a must
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>>333249110
I want to buy it, but I feel I'll get most of what i want from the movie alone, and for cheaper.
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>It's a reboot

J U S T
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>>333252668
I hate Ratchet's voice.
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>>333262719
Why? Especially since it's literally been the same VO actor since the original game, they haven't even changed it for the movie.
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>>333262550
>playing a Ratchet game for the plot
wtf
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>>333255787
He was good to summon if you just needed a little bit more firepower in a OH SHIT kind of situation. Also pretty good when surrounded by little enemies letting you focus on the bigger guy.
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i for one, really liked Nexus it was a fun game and had a great selection of weapons.
that being said, since this is a remake of the original i am expecting it to be longer than nexus.
length was the biggest problem of Nexus, everything else was pretty fun.
I just hope it's worth the 45 euroshekels.
oh also, they should have included either competetive multiplayer or online coop or something.
something to make it feel "fresh" considering the games didn't have multiplayer in the Future series.
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>>333262930
Ratchet's had the same VA (Johnny Test/HA HA HA HA HA) since UYA actualy
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>>333263138
I'm expecting it to be as long as 1 (15-20 hours). Maybe a little shorter if they've reduced the difficulty
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>>333263138
I was surprised Nexus was that short since they said that length was a big concern for them in the developer commentaries.
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>>333263138
>Length was the biggest problem of Nexus

No it fucking wasn't, the shitty framerate was the biggest problem. It's not even that it's locked 30, it's locked at 30 and there are drops out the ass.
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>>333249110
Give to me now, up your arsenal was the best thing ever
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>>333258816
>>333258924
Ha I'm colourblind and I can't tell the difference. For once my fucked eyes are a win!
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>Same Day as DS3

Why you do this to me Sony
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>no PS2 era Bergeaud OST ever again
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>>333249110
Literally every Ratchet is a multimillion seller so this one gauranteed
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>>333263826
Adding on to this, why didn't they just remix the original themes?
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>>333263529
>Have to get DS3 on PS4 because computer won't be able to run it
>Won't be able to see messages or coop because I refuse to pay for online

At least I'll have a shiny metal case and the soundtrack alongside R&C.
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>>333263874
Nah, the later ones didn't sell that great.
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>>333263154
Going Commando, actually.
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>>333263826
>Bland as fuck orchestral soundtrack
>again

All I want are remixes of the old themes. Use the boring new soundtrack for the boring new planets.
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I can't tell if there's legit excitement for this game or it's shilling. I don't remember any of the past Rachet games getting this much attention.
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>>333264297
Crack in Time was fun and I feel it doesn't get enough attention.
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>>333249690
Uncharted 1-3 are pretty silly not-serious games lol it's obvious you haven't played them.
Tell me about your le hardcore taste?
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>>333250230
Your asspained is hilarious
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>>333264297
First one on the PS4 and the movie is coming out around the same time. That's probably it.
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>>333264961
Crack in Time is the best one after up your arsenal
>>333264297
Sony doesn't shill in this shithole
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>>333266026
>Sony doesn't shill in this shithole
Insomniac might, after their last two games sold a combined 17 copies.
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>>333266162
Woah woah woah, that is straight up lying!

They sold 20 copies.
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>>333264297

Well it's the first Ratchet game in three years, and the first in seven years that isn't a shovelware spinoff or a zero-budget game made quickly to try and win people back after the shovelware spinoffs.
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>>333265291
He's just a cuck, just ignore.
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>>333266834
Maybe those games would've won people over if THEY WERE GIVEN A FUCKING BUDGET

So much could've been great if they just had a little money and time. Insomniac can work fucking magic with framerate and gameplay given time and resources.
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>>333266834
>same price as nexus
>same marketing
>practically a movie tie in
>"proper sequel"
man i dunno, i would be really cautious if i were you.
expect Nexus, not Crack in time.
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>>333267282
You do realise that modern games are way more complex than they were in the PS2 era, right? The PS2 Ratchet games were made of teams consisting primarily of expert programmers who made everything by hand and optimised the living shit out of it, which isn't really viable to the same extent in 2016. Too time-consuming, too expensive, not polished enough. It's a different world.
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>>333267485
It being a tie in means it gets some sort of budget. More than recent Ratchet games had.
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>>333267485
They're expecting the film to do most of marketing for them. Rightly imo. Why spend millions marketing the game when the movie is going to have a $20m+ marketing budget of its own?
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>>333268007
sure, it's still sold at 40 bucks.
I mean i have it on preorder since it just looks like more traditional ratchet, wich is enough for me.

people just shouldn't expect more.
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>>333267485

I am expecting something closer to the length of Nexus for $40. But this at least looks like it has some kind of budget behind it, unlike Nexus
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>>333268184
Why should games be $60 though? I've always thought it's a bit high, especially for parents buying for kids. It's way easier for people to justify a $40 purchase.
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