Why do people complain about this again?
>>333213536
It's to get people locked out of their current/older/ other accounts so they have to rebuy their games. This isn't about security, only a moron would believe that.
>>333213536
Because I don't have a smartphone so I get to wait weeks for my marketplace transactions.
I don't mind it, but I can see how people without an Android or Apple phone would be upset. The idea isn't bad, but how it's becoming essentially mandatory is what's making people angry.
Some Russian apparently got my password, but luckily I had this set up so I was bombarded with new authentication codes on my phone. It saved my account.
>>333213874
>Because I don't have a smartphone
How do you function?
>>333213969
Not him, but I honestly could live without it. All I mostly do is talk or text. I like checking email, news, etc. but I really only do it if I'm out of the house and bored somewhere. I don't feel like I really need it to function.
>>333213721
Take the tinfoil hat off, jimmy, momma made fish sticks and they're waiting for you on the table.
>>333213969
Not everyone defines their existence by superfluous internet usage.
>>333213721
Not quite, it's mostly damage control from that whole leaked account information debacle; any compromised accounts will result in a PR shitstorm for Volvo so they're taking beyond excessive steps to protect retards from themselves in order to avoid this.
My account password was literally 12345 for five years and I never so much as got an email about somebody trying to get on my account. I know why Valve did it, it's just beyond obnoxious
>>333213969
I don't need to shitpost on the go, anon. I can do other things during my free time
>>333213969
Not that guy but I use a regular Nokia phone.
I don't see the appeal of buying glorified $800 alarm clocks every year when the hardware burns out because its on all the time.
A regular phone with a battery that lasts 7 to 8 days is the best phone you can buy.
Smart phones are for zombies with disposable incomes who fear social interaction.
>>333213536
Because some people are dumb enough to own a windows phone
>>333213536
people are complaining about valve shoving it down our throats. I actually like steam guard itself.
>>333214406
>$800 alarm clocks
you can walk into a walmart (if you're american) and get a garbage $10-$20 prepaid phone
>Smart phones are for zombies with disposable incomes who fear social interaction.
t. 12 year old
>>333214517
>Phone dead or missing
>lol good luck logging in faggot
I'm fine with an email if I'm trying to sell something for over $5 but we're way past that point
>>333214462
>>333214597
You're one of those people who still believe you can basically get a phone for '''''''''''''''''free'''''''''''''''''' or for $10 on a prepaid plan, aren't you?
Instead of a phone you guys should buy a vita or a 3ds, much better than a glorified $800 internet machine.
>>333214406
The price point isn't valid any more. I remember talking to someone like this before. "Yeah, I got this phone for $50, I don't need a smart phone" when I had a smart phone at the time that was $50 too, with a contract. But that person also need a contract for his flip phone, he didn't buy it outright.
The battery life you're correct on, though. I've had two days where I've barely used it at all and it would still need to be charged in that time.
Durability can come into play too, but it's usually just retards that want super duper picture quality on a tiny screen so they buy a phone with a fucking glass screen instead of plexiglass.
>>333214406
No way senpai, you can use a smartphone without being a fucking zombie, the sheer usefulness outweighs the pricetag, especially if you don't go full retard and get the newest one.
Having the ability to access all your files (say, for college) is fantastic since you don't have to print them out or carry a laptop with you.
>>333214660
You're one of those people who still believe every smart phone is $800, aren't you?
>should buy a vita or 3ds
Nah
>>333214741
This. Having an internet browser, phone, MP3 player, radio, camera, watch and so on on a small rectangle that fits in your pocket is beyond useful.
>>333213969
That shits expensive and I don't need it for anything.
Not like I ever liked phones anyways. I've got Skype and that's enough.
My Cell Phone makes calls and that's all I need it to do. Even then I barely use it.
>>333214281
>damage control
There was no damage to control for that 'accident' and almost everybody already forgot about it.
The real, actual reason is because it's mostly children that use Steam. Children are stupid and Valve is cheap, so instead of hiring more customer service, they can toss in a useless feature or two so they can say it's your fault you got trade scammed and continue to not actually do anything about it, but make it seem like they care by putting in more 'security' features.
Valve would willingly go bankrupt before hiring an actual support staff.
>>333215348
Valve already has a policy explicitly stating they will not undo trades that were alleged scams. Even without any sort of safety features [especially mandatory] they're legally clear unless the issue was from their end anyway.
It sure as hell makes selling a bunch of cards or items difficult.
>>333213969
underage detected
I love my smartphone but come on.
Most people could get by with call and text just fine.
>>333214741
>>333214715
>>333214850
>>333215076
Smart phone/Google/Samsung/Microsoft apologists detected. It may be useful in some cases but pretty quickly you realize you rely on its basic functions as a phone 99% of the time. It's all smoke and mirrors and gimmicks as far as I'm concerned. The only thing smartphones have going for them over older phones is better internet browsers and cameras. Radio and Music is done better on older phones that have better sound chips. Internet browsing is a waste of time and only useful in a very small amount of circumstances, usually when you've allowed technology to erode traditional skills which have quietly atrophied. And with the cameras, let's be serious nobody wants to look at your pictures, you're not a photographer and nothing you see is unique or interesting. A thumbstick drive would also be better for file management than a smartphone considering how redundant its use actually is.
>>333214850
Vita and 3DS can at least provide you with real entertainment on the go not just 4chan.
>>333214741
Buy, I sure am glad I can read this 15 page document on my small as fuck smartphone screen.
>>333215509
This isn't about legality, it's about children whining how it wasn't their fault. Go check CSGO's Steam forum and see how many threads you can find about someone whining how they got trade scammed. The more security features Valve crams in, the more the community will police itself and tell everyone who got scammed that it was their own fault, and if they think that, they're less likely to waste Valve's time with it.
>>333215653
I do mostly just use it for talking and checking email, but it was like the same price as any other phone that would accept a modern SIM card. Seriously, they're all $50+ now even for a flip.
>>333215076
You fail to understand that there are people who don't need a phone that does anything more than calls and texts.
>>333215793
In the real world it creates a false sense of security resulting in people being extremely careless with their accounts.
>>333215653
>I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about: the post
>>333215964
>In the real world it creates a false sense of security resulting in people being extremely careless with their accounts.
Agreed, and we can see that with car accident statistics. But again, Valve doesn't care about that. The consumer thinks it's more secure so they'll be more willing to buy and think it's their fault if they fuck up. Valve gets more money from it and that is literally the only thing they care about.
>>333214406
>glorified $800 alarm clock
I payed $50 for my smartphone.
>>333216190
/o/ here, thank you. DURR MY CAR BRAKES FOR ME SO I'M FREE TO NOT PAY ATTENTION WHILE PILOTING MY 6,000 BLOCK OF METAL AROUND PEOPLE AT HIGH SPEEDS
>cant do shit like selling items on the market without guard
Stop forcing this shit on me you fucks.
>>333216343
6,000lb*
>>333215653
I use mine for a variety of shit, including emulating more than even my PSP, in fact, including a large amount of PSP games. And DS games too. Drastic is still being worked on but eh.
besides it's ease of use, i'm gonna have a phone with me at all times, might as well use it for a bunch of stuff. Battery life is a total non issue, I have at least ten portable batteries that hold like 8+ hours of charge each.
If you don't like smartphones that's fine but they're hardly bad, they're the next step in cell phone tech.
It's a shit fucking service. I got robbed of my phone and had to get a new one, with a new number, and Steam offers no way to change the number if you've lost access to the phone with the original number.
Don't tell me to use their support, if you think they can help, you've never used Steam support.
>>333213969
I have a nokia 8250 and it does the job.
Because you're not supposed to give out personal details like your phone number online. Internet usage 101.
>>333213969
I use my shitty 200$ smartphone purely to call/receive calls from my mom. I have no fucking clue why I didn't just buy some cheap-ass nigger-tier flipphone. Not everyone is a teenager, y'know.
To me, the real practical usefulness between owning a smartphone and a regular candybar phone or flip phone depends on how much free time you have.
I don't have "free" time. I'm constantly driving, cooking, working, playing, shopping, being with friends and any other thing you can think of. When I'm not doing those things I'm at home and I have a computer to do all the things a smartphone does and better. For what it matters I don't have time to read a book unless I sit down and actually read a book. My car plays music off a USB drive and professionally I can't be seen listening to music because that looks like slacking off in my profession.
The people I see making lots of use of their smartphone features have free time; their work involves a lot of downtime or they use public transit. Or they're inconsiderate shits using their phones over the conversation of others. If I still used the bus to go everywhere I would use a smartphone but I don't.
I think there are many lifestyles that don't demand a smartphone to make efficient use of your time.
>>333216546
I miss when I had a smartphone with more buttons. I had a GBA emulator and use the volume up and camera buttons as L and R.
>>333215653
I use my phone to browse 4chan at home. Why shouldn't I?
Because if you don't want to use it your stuff is held for like a week (or less, I'm not sure) with trading.
>>333216950
Because you have an actual computer?
>>333216802
yeah I used to have an xperia PLAY and it was the fucking tits for emulation. Even had native PS1 emulation just like the PS1. Only a couple games I couldn't get working, and they were weird games anyway (hokuto no ken, pandemonium 2).
The DS4 is pretty nice with the bluetooth connectivity, and I bought an OTG cable too for when I need to play something that I can't deal with the delay (shmups mostly. Ikaruga plays great on my s6)
>>333216950
>lying in bed browsing /vg/ threads on my phone
It's glorious
Having a smart phone is worse than windows 10.
>>333214179
>snide internet comment instead of a well thought out argument
Kys, senpai. The minute you change your phone number or lose your phone, consider yourself fucked.
>>333217183
>using a phone to browse 4chan
>using a phone to browse 4chan when you're in your fucking home
>/vg/
It checks out.
>>333215348
>so they can say it's your fault you got trade scammed
Because it is your fault.
>>333217289
>I always want to be sitting on my PC at all hours of the day
>>333213536
Keeps people from using the market if they didn't buy into the smart phone horse shit.
>>333217283
What the fuck did you expect from them? You're on /v/.
>>333217457
Any minor "benefit" you get from lying on the bed instead of just browsing 4chan on a desktop like a normal fucking person are instantly negated by the heaps of shit you go through to use this website on a mobile device.
Just the slow-ass typing speed would drive any non-shitposter insane.
but wait, I forgot!
>/vg/
yeah, carry on then, you fucking faggot
>>333217289
>be me
>tired from being a wagecuck
>Lying in bed with sore anus
>Don't want to get up do I use my phone instead
I don't really see the problem
>durr you can't get your account if you lose your phone
if you're using the market (why wouldn't you? Free money.) you have it, if you're using the market, you also have your tax info saved on your steam account, and if you have that you have an easy, 5 minute way to regain access to your account via threat of a fucking lawsuit because they're withholding your account without wiping sensitive information.
>>333217775
gb2reddit
>>333217457
>i want to be and post on 4chan while i'm off the computer
That is hilarious.
>>333217289
>>333217826
you must be 18 or older to post here
>>333217826
Make me nerd
>>333217675
>browsing
>same as posting
Are you retarded?
>>333217842
>I want to awkwardly do nothing during downtime where I have nothing but my phone on me
>Get a smartphone
>Use it solely to shitpost on the go
>>333217850
EVERYONE POINT AT THE NEWFAG AND LAUGH
Because 3rd worlders can't get the concept of a smartphone
>>333217936
>I want to awkwardly do nothing during downtime where I have nothing but my phone on me
>>i want to be and post on 4chan while i'm off the computer
That is hilarious.
>>333213721
This guy gets it
>>333218196
You're not one of those massive losers who walks around with a fucking 3DS are ya?
>>333216741
They actually give you a number to get access to steam guard if you lose your phone during the first set up, it is your fault if you are a fucking retard tho
>>333218075
>no one laughed
how embarrassing
>>333218364
>>333218364
No, i have youtube, books/ebook depend on what event i'm waiting at, and if it gets worse sometimes a phone game. Taking 4chan with you is akin to taking a 3ds with you. Its hilarious.
You don't even a need a smartphone for it. I got the steam app on my tablet and it works just fine.
>>333218664
>i have youtube
I knew this is a thread for the tablet generation, but come the fuck on
I don't really have a problem with this. It has helped me before.
>>333214406
>Smart phones are for zombies with disposable incomes who fear social interaction.
I can hear the fedora tipping all the way from here
>>333218810
>All of youtube is gamegrumps, pewdiepie top 10s and other mindless drivel.
You're embarrassing. There are many many other things to watch on youtube that isn't cringe worthy or retarded. If thats all you see it as then you're simply wrong. I can see you're grasping at straws here, just know that i came here to laugh at you and i am done now.
>>333219353
>All of youtube is gamegrumps, pewdiepie top 10s and other mindless drivel
Yes.
Yes they are.
Anything that pretends to be more than that is just pretentious pseudo-intellectual drivel designed to attract teenage fedoras.
>>333219353
le filthyfrank
>>333219353
>There are many many other things to watch on youtube that isn't cringe worthy or retarded
There literally are not. Kill yourself anytime.
>>333213536
It's really fucking stupid considering smart phones aren't even that secure. I bet more people lose their smartphone on a train than they lose their wallet.
I have a smartphone and I think it's really useful, but it's stupid to make life more difficult for your customers who don't have a particular device.
Nintendos new reward system revolves entirely on their miitomo app, which means there's tons of their loyal customers they're cutting out. Not to mention the app is still buggy. I would expect them to release the miitomo app for 3DS and WiiU at a point which might make things a little better.
>>333213721
i have used steam guard on my cellphone, because:
1) im not im my home all the fucking day and sometimes people on my friend list want to tell me something and i dont mix personal life and vidya
2) i travel alot due to job and some times i have to use others people PC and i dont want to get my shit stolen
3)some one tried to open my account of FB in taiwan and my Outlook on the philipines and i only use those accounts on my cellphone and my PC
so yes i need it because it ads 1 more security layer to my account
>>333215653
>A thumbstick drive would also be better for file management than a smartphone
Yeah, I can just take that thumbstick out of my pocket and look over my files with it alone or send them wireless to where they may be needed.
>blizzard, origin, and others use the same 2 step authentication process via app
>but for some reason valve needs your phone number
>>333213969
By using a phone just for phone calls and a computer for all my internet shit. The only useful function a smart phone gave me was being able to post here while I take a dump like right now.
>>333213536
I DONT HAVE A PHONE SO I CANT TRADE OR SELL SHIT ON THE MARKET
>place I live in burgerland doesn't have the infrastructure to support any smartphone stuff that requires internet connection
>so where I live the only thing a smartphone has over my flip phone is data space
>while I have better battery life
Maybe when this place stops being basically a third world shithole I'll get a smartphone to try it out.A lot of actual third world shitholes have better infrastructure than a lot of places in burgerland. Since they've never had any before it's a lot cheaper to just put the most modern shit they got in the first place. Here they have to remove shit that's been around since the fucking 1800s first before they could put any new shit in.
>>333214406
Newspapers are for zombies with disposable incomes who fear social interaction.
>>333216770
>used to be told to never share your personal information online with anyone
>not that's the first step if you want to do pretty much anything
>even worse if you have to link the shit to a facebook account which usually have a lot more info about you than most online accounts
>>333217023
Why would have I have something like that? I have a phone and I'm not doing taxes grandpa.
>>333221201
Your first mistake was having a facebook account.
>>333221060
I know your pain, friend.
I live in rural new mexico, I convinced pretty much all of my neighbors within a 20 mile radius to get cheapo internet plans, and forced comcast to come out and dig up fucktons of old wiring after I complained shit was faulty (it wasn't really, but I knew it would be if they never fixed it).
I'm just hoping google fiber rolls out nationwide soon, they're supposed to be expanding.
>>333221201
>told to never give your SSN out unless it's super important
>literally every business asks for it to open an account
>sometimes they ask over the phone with Achmed on the other side and identification fraud at an all time high
>>333221334
I never said I did anon.
>find something online that seems interesting, would like to try it out
>logging in requires a facebook account
>don't have one so I can't check it out
>>333217013
It was originally a 3 day trade hold for people who didn't have the mobile guard set up.
Once Valve noticed they didn't have too much opposition they changed it a month or so later to a fucking 15 day trade hold that also now applies to selling things on the market. The market is unusable for people trying to sell items that don't have the mobile guard now, might as well not even bother trying to trade, and since this was changed after mobile guard was introduced I'm pretty sure a lot of users who opted into it have no idea that the restrictions tightened up this much for those without.
>>333218756
Having the Steam app on your tablet doesn't mean you have mobile guard activated. You need a working phone number for that.
>>333221334
The anon never implied they did have one. Plus just posting here is just as bad. You really think you're really anonymous here?
>>333220262
Why are you giving your FB (lol) and Outlook information to the ladyboy prostitutes you are spending the night with?
>>333222942
im not, like i said i dont mix personal life, pleasure
and my job yet somehow some one got that information.
and about the ladyboys, if they are less than 18yo and cute then its fair play
>>333213536
I don't have a smart phone and I travel a lot, switching back and forth between using my desktop and using my laptop.
I like to sell steam cards and use that money to buy cheap games and/or games that are on sale. Now as you might know, Steam will lock you out of selling on the market for a week if it detects you on a new computer. Now, add that to the fact that if you sell anything with even a slight amount of worth, you have to log into your email and into your browser, where it'll almsot always say "You are logging in from a new computer. Go to your email and enter a code we sent in order to continue". So it winds up being extremely inconvenient.
Besides that, since I don't have a smart phone, added to these inconveniences and the 7 days I have to wait for switching computers, the market puts my cards on hold for another 15 days simply because I don't have the mobile autheticator app. So I have to wait almost a whole month to sell things on the market. And by that point the price I wanted to sell my cards for will be too high, as generally the value of things on the market go down over time.
Fuck Mobile Authenticator.
>>333223543
Look dude you are clearly getting high on some crazy ass drugs you were sucking off the ladyboys feminine dicks and you talked too much and gave them incomplete info.
You need to remember that when you're in the Phillipines and Taiwan you are there to work, not get wasted and fuck ladyboys.
>>333214606
write down the app's recovery code you faggot
>>333219202
My family is too poor to afford smart phones. They would increase our bill.
>>333213969
Dumb phone plus computer.
>>333213969
I have no friends and basically never leave my bedroom, so I really don't need one.
>>333223752
>tfw registered before recovery codes
>can't remove the fucking lock now because durr you need the code which I never fucking received
>support keeps telling me to give them the code
holy shit this is infuriating. I still have my phone, I just want the guard off, then on so I can get a code.
>>333217675
I lay in bed with my wife while using clover on my android phone. Absolutely no regrets and I don't have to be hunched over my desktop constantly especially when I would have to waste heat on an extra room just to post on this shitty site
>there are people in 2016 who don't have a smart phone
jesus christ
and two step authentication is the best you can do to secure your account, more effective than a password, I use it whenever possible.
>>333213536
There is absolutely no reason for this to be SMS based and require a mobile phone.
It should be solely Android app based Open Key Authentication like every other authenticator on Earth. Works fine for Google, BNet, GW, Every bank, etc.
Open key android would allow it to run on a phone, tablet, android emulator, etc. Way easier to use, way cheaper, more available to every user.
Being SMS based just screams Valve harvesting phone numbers for advertisers.
>>333223752
>Still need a new phone to recover it on
Good idea
>>333213536
Because it forces you to get a phone that runs either android or iOS, so if you're not locked into those two systems then you're fucked over and have to wait 15 days for fucking trades/market sells/anything.
Also, some people don't like the idea of giving Valve their phone number and installing an app just to fucking sign in.
I use the desktop authenticator, which is buggy as hell and third party, but it's better than trying to use it on my phone, which can't run Steam.
It's clear that Valve only added this thing so that they no longer have to deal with scam reports, as they've claimed that they will not deal with you being so called "hacked" anymore because you have two devices.
>>333224032
The fucking e-mail should be enough, there is no reason to attach that shit to a mobile phone
>>333223709
come on a man needs some pasion on their lives and its just some harmless fun. too much work and no fun makes some one go so crazy that he will try to rape white boys instead of fucking assian ladyboys
>>333224223
Yeah. Literally every other service just requires you to check your email. Even fucking government websites don't do mobile authentication as a necessity. Valve is insane.
>>333220574
Yep, this is fishy bullshit. There are literally hundreds of online games and non-gaming services that all us OKA based authenticators without any need for SMS, phone numbers, or even a real Android device (Open source software like Winauth can simulate Open Key auths if you have the recovery codes to set it up).
Valve meanwhjile wants them juicy phone numbers and flat out refuses to comment on why they don't do authentication like everyone else.
>>333224079
it isnt, its just an app and it doenst work by SMS
>>333213876
>people without an android or apple phone
So not people?
>>333224407
You require valid SMS to set it up.
Go find the SMS requirement on BNet, Origin, Google or GW2. (You won't)
>>333213536
I don't own a phone, because I don't have friends or family.
>>333214406
>$800
>hardware burns out because its on all the time
I'm with you on the don't need smartphones to live thing, but these are false.
If you actually believe you have to buy the new iphone every year, then you're just as ignant as the consumer zombies. There are plenty of cheap ways to get a smartphone for $20-$50 without a contract.
The hardware does not burn out after a year. If you're not careful about the battery, that could die quickly. But I don't think I've ever seen a phone actually get fried even with heavy usage on demanding apps.
As for battery, yeah they're not that great. I get maybe 2-3 days of nonusage on my phone.
>>333224223
>>333224316
Do you know how people figure out all of your accounts and get access to your account in the first place?
Through your email.
If your email is ever compromised, you're fucked. The attacker now knows every account you have that's linked to it, and can go on to reset passwords, do social engineering or whatever.
Having another wall outside of your email is the safest way to do things.
>>333224483
weird, i have that app on my tablet and it didnt asked for shit other than my email autentification, months latter i instaled the same app on my cellphone but i dont remember if it asked for my number
>tfw I don't have a smartphone
Who /notgettingfuckedintheassbythefbi/ here
>>333224194
But kids using their mom's credit card on CS:GO will STILL find ways to be scammed. Every person with half a brain knows this. Attempting to patch on new ways of "authentication" and "protection" for these retards is useless and it's gone past being overly concerned, to being actively detrimental to users.
They've always stated frpm the very beginning that customer support will not give you your items back if you are scammed, and have continuously added new messages/features relating to this (messages in trade window detailing how you will not get your items back after a scam, email confirmation, etc), and that was plenty without having to resort to the current authenticator.
I find Valve wanting peoples' phone numbers to be sketchy as all hell. They're sure not getting mine.
>>333224362
Their official response is "hurr too many people got scammed/hijacked/viruses on computer so they're vulnerable to email verification as well"
Also an asston of people were abusing the scam/hijack report system to duplicate high-level items, as when your items are "scammed" valve makes a copy of your items and gives them back to you
So theoretically with two separate devices it is now impossible to get scammed, valve no longer worries about dupes, and they can fire the single guy who was working support tickets.by the way you can emulate android on pc and still authenticate through steam that way although it still exposes you to the potentially of getting a RAT on your computer and losing everything on steamthey still need your phone number though use skype or google talk or some shit
>Input a code every time I log on.
Are they serious with this shit? Why exactly isn't my two E-mail Accounts with different passwords each not enough? This shit isn't hard, guys.
>>333224798
>they still need your phone number though use skype or google talk or some shit
Canadian, we don't get phone numbers for free through these (In fact we can't get them for paid either, they're unavailable. Our telecoms are nazis)
>>333224793
>But kids using their mom's credit card on CS:GO will STILL find ways to be scammed
I didn't say it'd actually work. That's just their reasoning.
Everyone knows those kids will lose all their skins betting/gambling, then use their parent's credit cards again, and Valve will make more money.
But this way they don't have to deal with support tickets, so it really just reduces their workload because now they can just ctrl+v "lmao you had authenticator we don't reverse trades or give you shit back good bye ticket is now closed"
>>333224791
>he thinks the FBI can't track his shit just because he uses a dumb phone
>>333213969
>all these axons saying it's only good for social shit and games
Do none of you tards use GPS??
>>333224936
>In fact we can't get them for paid either, they're unavailable. Our telecoms are nazis
That seems fucked but I can't pretend I know jackshit about monoplies.
>>333224791
are you also using someone else's wifi and are about to make your escape back into the woods?
>lmao, phonefags gonna get tracked
>lemme just use this isp that's super secret and safe from the government
who would even think this?
>>333225017
>>333225112
>They think I'm american
>>333225024
Old external GPS when driving and paper maps when on foot.
>>333213536
Because I have a Windows phone so I can't install their stupid program on it.
>>333214257
>what is 4chan
>>333225225
If you're not American why even bring up the FBI?
>>333225392
he's probably some idiot romanian or turkroach
I would like to believe bongs or germs are not this dense.most likely some dirty wetback
>>333213876
>it's becoming essentially mandatory is what's making people angry.
True, it shouldnt be mandatory (for traders at least). also the 15 days cooldown is a stupid, who would wait 15 days for simple card to card trade or cheap tf2/csgo item
they need to add some kind of limit where it doesn't kick in until you start selling over 5-10$ or something a day. card sellers are happy because you're never going to sell more than that per day, and scammers are still blocked because the limit is so slow. hire me valve
>>333225723
No one would wait that long. That's the thing. They're trying to get more and more people to give out their personal info by making it harder on the people who don't.
It shouldn't have been mandatory at all. They could've just slapped on some bonus for people who do get the mobile authenticator like a discount or some free item, then all the traders and children would naturally flock to it like flies. Problem solved.
>>333213969
You must be at least 18 years old to post here.
>>333213536
Blizzards had mobile aunthenticor for how many fucking years now? i bought the little wow one when they first came out, it still works. i rarely log into my bnet, but still, i've had no issues with it.
as for valve doing it, idk. i don't have it mainly because i have ghettro, and its by the month, if i miss a payment my phone number goes to some random hoodrat somewhere and i'd rather not have them getting my texts.
I don't even have a cellphone. Apparently my landline is no longer good enough for the modern world.
>>333226459
it's fine if you want to make calls, but so few people make actual calls nowadays, everyone texts (and even then most people bypass that with kik/snapchat/whatever other IM app), or skype or facetime. basically plain voice communication is deprecated.
>>333226459
Landlines are outdated
I don't even know why people pay for at home phones
>>333219353
>All of youtube is gamegrumps, pewdiepie top 10s and other mindless drivel
That is correct.
>>333216343
What?
>>333226648
>Having your access to emergency services be at the whim of cellphone signals and batteries
Learned that dangerous lesson once, never again I'll gladly shill $10 for a landline.
>>333227089
>snip
and just like that, you're fucked.
>cellphone signals
don't use a shitty provider like AT&T and this isn't an issue, most providers have at least minimal signals across the entirety of the states, and some semblance of a signal worldwide. Plus 4G.
>batteries
portable battery. costs 10 bucks and some can charge your phone up twice or even three times to full capacity from single digit battery %
>>333224869
You only have to input it the once, then you can set the device to remember you.
>>333227784
>and just like that, you're fucked.
Yeah, I need to fear those fags who dig up my drive way to cut the phone line.
>Just change services, pretend coverage issues don't exist and carry around a spare battery pack
Thanks for admitting all the issues of using a cellphone as your only phone. Hope you survive calling 911 when your cell is dead.
>>333228081
>change services
no, don't pick a shit one in the first place. You said you just use a landline, if you're deliberately going to sabotage yourself by picking a shitty carrier like AT&T, more power to you.
>coverage issues don't exist
again, if you pick a competent carrier, they don't.
>spare battery pack
yes, what, you can't fit a small cylinder less than the width and length of most wallets in your fucking pocket? Okay champ.
>cell is dead
>ACTUALLY letting batteries die in your technology
holy shit
hoooooooly shit.
>>333228401
I'm not him, but I don't think you grasp what an emergency is.
>>333228909
what does he mean then, or what do you mean? In what possible situation is a landline going to help you in any significant manner that a cell phone couldn't? Taking obvious precautions that any average person takes is not above and beyond anything, either.
Oh and let's not forget good luck using your landline to call someone when you're being mugged.
>>333229184
It is ironic that you are arguing against a redundant system in a thread about two factor authentication.
Despite your best efforts, your mobile will not always work. It is unlikely your battery will be running out at home, but sometimes your provider can fuck up and you will lose signal, if only for a little while.
What if your phone is lost or destroyed? In the time you are between phones, without a landline you will have nothing.
Seeing as you do not control the world, even if you do everything right, you only need one OTHER person to fuck up to remove the option of using your mobile phone from you.
I don't even own a smartphone.
I have a smart phone but I use winauth anyway because it's a pain in the ass to open the phone every time I have to log in to the browser
>>333213721
You'd actually have to be pretty dumb to get locked out of your account, to be honest.
I literally reset my phone to factory settings without disabling mobile authentication. But it was okay, because when you enable mobile authentication in the first place, STEAM GIVES YOU A RESET CODE in case this exact thing happens.
In order to get locked out of your account, you would have to:
1) Deliberately enable mobile authentication
2) Lose the backup code
3) Lose or factory-reset your phone
Don't do those three things in that order, and you'll be fine. And if you're still worried, just don't use mobile authentication. Steam Guard makes it pretty safe, anyway, if you're sure no one is going to break into your email. If you already use mobile authentication (or any similar mobile security feature) for your email, there's no reason to use it for Steam as well.
>>333224194
>Because it forces you to get a phone that runs either android or iOS, so if you're not locked into those two systems then you're fucked over and have to wait 15 days for fucking trades/market sells/anything.
This. I can't believe we have to put up with Valve's shit because a bunch of braindead kids gave away their 200$ unusuals to some random faggot in exchange for a Righteous Bison.
>>333213969
Get the fuck out you retard.
I don't have a smartphone either. Why would I want one? To hand my personal data over to Jewish companies and the NSA?
>>333213969
>>333225024
I'm assuming that they at least don't have real jobs. My employer pays for my phone because it is critical to being able to function in a modern business.
>>333232490
Maybe 10% of modern businesses.
Pretty sure the reason they pushed this 15 day trade lock was to fuck over people with 1000 accounts making free money with the sales trading cards.
>>333233939
actually i have about 50 accounts and it was annoying when they brought it out but i already put all my accounts on the authenticator and it is just one extra step to get to trade all my alts cards to my main account to keep making bank
>>333234881
Huh, I thought trades got put in a 15 day hold unless you used the mobile authenticator.
Can you still use the email authenticator for instant trading?
>>333213536
If you lose your phone then you lose your whole fucking steam account.
>>333235393
no, you have to use the mobile auth to do instant trading. which is fine for me since you can use the same number for any number of accounts you want. they'll probably change that sometime in the future but for now it works.
>>333235894
Wait, really? so you log off your phone and login into each alt account each time you want to make a trade?
>>333236015
pretty much
i have lastpass on my phone too so i can just login a little faster
>>333236647
Tempting, although having to use mobile authenticator that way everytime you login to your account sounds like hell. Fucking valve, man.
>>333232768
Pretty much 95% of businesses, if you're some cunt that doesn't have a phone on them, you can't be contacted and are unrealiable.
Even the ability to send out a short text to all employees is easier than sending out a memo or email which you know some cunt isn't going to check.
>>333213969
Having no friends and having all that extra money every month makes it very easy to live without a smartphone.
>>333220574
Fucking this holy shit. I don't trust Valve one bit. I sure as shit won't give them my phone number when it's completely unnecessary.
