I just don't understand the combo breaker mechanic in this game. Am I just supposed to guess what i'm supposed to mash to break? I wanna like this game but its frustrating
http://ki.infil.net/cbreaker.html
Read this and git gud
>>333212852
It's really based on fast responses and prediction.
Some characters have really obvious signs if what kind of attack it is and some are altogether to quick.
Another point is that a combo officially ends on a strong attack so there is at least one in there.
>>333212852
There is sound and 2 different animations cues coming from you and your opponent.
Just practice.
I really want to like this game too but theres literally no one playing it online
Im 15 minutes waiting to play my first ranked match
As someone who started just last week, you get used to it. It's kind of hard to describe, but once you've fought everyone enough times you combo break stuff onInstinct
>>333212852
the problem is that you're mashing. calm your inputs, watch what the opponent is doing, and try to predict what you think they'll do next
>>333213487
I was just playing ranked a while ago and I joined a game within a minute or so. Probably you :^)
>>333213759
Yeah, thankfully I tried that before buying it.
Back to more popular fighters, I guess.
>>333213965
There are more than enough people playing online, what are you even on about?
Its probably a network issue from your side.
are you just supposed to know wtf everyone in the games moves look like? lots of people play jago so i know what his lights, mediums and heavies look like
typically all heavy auto doubles are within regular human reaction time as well as other stuff like shadow breakers are not too difficult, and timing shadow counter against block strings. faster stuff is as quick or quicker than pure human reaction, but you have tools at your disposal like animation and audio cues. the simple meta of breakers would be showing you can always break heavy autodoubles, then they start to show you they won't heavy auto anymore, then you just technically turned it into a 50/50 instead, and telling lights from medium is usually quite easy. its up to them to still test you with heavies from then on.
all fights typically evolve their own personal little meta dance, based on how you and your opponent break each other. it's quite fun because you're encouraged to freestyle to not get broken, and when you get a lock-out you go balls deep and do all the max damage stuff you couldn't do before.
but anyway you fight against all the cast a lot until you know everything they can do, simply put.
>>333214815
Your own characters getting hit animation stays constant for each move strength he gets hit with.
Also lights,mediums and heavies have different audio queues.
You can also break based on these without knowing every single characters normals.
>>333214930
Damn. Very fun game with a kinda deep to git gud in system but I just don't give a fuck enough about the game to get deep into it. If the autism on breaking combos was dialed back a little I would probably stick with it longer.
I'll play it casually. Good thing they have the f2play thing.
Bump cuz KI on /v/.
>>333212852
I am actually shocked at how much better this is quality and feature wise than anything capcom ever shat out.
Its my main game since a week ago and i dont regret anything.
>>333216368
New game mode(s) coming with season 3 too.
>>333213220
you can't break enders silly. But there does need to be one breakable point in every combo.
>>333215603
>autism
anything but anon. it isn't game knowledge, it's based in reads. get in their head
LOBBY WHERE?
>>333215603
there's literally a "auto combo" option for people like you.
Watching someone do an 60 minute combo is not fun to me. ive been up in this combo breaker training thing for the past fucking hour and I still do not get it.''might just stick with the shitfest that is mkx since its the only other option for me on bone
>>333216829
fair enough if you are coming for MKX then a combo breaker is a "NO FUCK YOU" button where as doing the combo is just as much as a mindgame in ki as is the actual midgame.
>>333213965
>Back to more popular fighters, I guess
The fuck lol
I seriously doubt there are many fighting games more active than this one.
>>333216764
my problem isn't doing combos i can do that fine, my problem is breaking my opponents combos. this games fun I just don't care into getting deep with it and knowing how the animation looks and all that other jazz when breaking combos.
if it was a little simpler i'd give it more time but man I really just don't give enough fucks to get autistic about it.
>>333214930
this really helped. thank you
>>333217540
smash 4 thread?
>>333219003
i dont even know what that means but ok I guess
>>333216980
it is then when someone hits me its fucking combo video city. been up in the lab with cinder for hours for nothing if im just going to get bopped with combos that are as long as a seinfeld episode
DEATH COMES TO ALLEXCEPT ME
>>333221202
YOU WERE FASTUNTIL I HIT YOU
>>333212852
Too combo-heavy game. Too many combos, too long combos.
SFV is better
Enjoy your numbered days faggots because imma make you cry like a bitch when this bastard is released
>>333221638
>SF5
>better than anything
If it werent a capcom game everyone would call it the garbage it is.
Who do you think will be the final character for this season?
>>333213487
Check to see if your Teredo Adress is working.
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-on-windows/social/troubleshoot-party-chat
Also, having a tough time choosing between this and Pokken.
>>333221625
>mfw free damage on someone is stupid enough to jump in on Tusk
>>333222398
Every thread. Get lost.
>>333222129
If he doesn't play like Nemesis I will be surprised.
>>333221202
His model is so fucking ugly.
>>333222398
>DDN character gets in
>people start caring about DDN
>we finally get some rule34
>>333222258
Gameplay's solid bruh.I agree otherwise.
>>333213487
What the hell, I am in Brazil and playing tons of matches. Where are you?
>>333222920
The newer human characters (This guy and Kim Wu) are fucking ugly.
Not going to shit on it but this is just not my game. I really like the characters and how pretty it is but the core game itself is just not for me.
Anybody think omen might be a little op now since his rebalance?
>>333223046
If the online wouldnt be so shitty in SF5 i would actually play it more often.
Ranked is a mess.
Lobbies are slightly fixed, but still a mess.
>>333223628
I thought that too for the first couple of hours. Now It's a really rewarding game.
It is so fucking good to read your opponent like a book and start breaking all of his combo attempts to the point that he started screaming in the microphone.
>>333213119
>http://ki.infil.net/cbreaker.html
>>333216458
Says you can break enders if there were no other breakable moves done.
>>333223779
It's the opposite for me I get solid connections all day in ranked looking for 5 bars but ill be damned if i can find a single decent connection in a battle lobby.
>>333224034
Bet it is. This game is just not for me tho, i'm trying to play it like a traditional fighter and that is a no-no. Imma try something else.
>>333224523
The main problem is that you cant filter lobbies for country or ping, literally WHY.
Ranked works decently connection wise, but unpunished ragequitters and the terrible rollback in the few laggy matches makes me rage hard.
>>333224758
It plays exactly like a traditional fighter.
It starts going funky as soon as you land a combo.
But the footsie game is exactly the same.
The oki is the same too.
Its not hard to adjust to the combo system if you are good at the rest that makes up fighters already.
>>333216829
>its the only other option for me on bone
Soul Calibur 2 Online, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, KoF '98 Ultimate Match, and Skullgirls are all backwards-compatible. I don't agree with your opinion on KI, but even you don't deserve to play the schlock that is MKX.
>>333224859
I have not run into too many RQ's myself but when it happens you just gotta laugh it off some dude is such a bitch to plug pull to keep meaningless points. Played mattbison some plat rated bison he beat me in a close game and rematched and i fucking whipped his ass game 2 and he RQ on me and I laughed so fucking hard.
>>333213487
im finding players instantly
>>333213759
my issue with ranked at the moment is that my rank resets when I close the game and im back in unranked
>>333217540
breaking combos is already insanely easy, breaking manuals is another story
>>333213119
I wish they had a one button break for combos because holy fuck I get touched and I might as well just sit the fucking controller down because 90% of the time i'm going to either press the fucking wrong button to break a combo or press it too late.
That shit gets me heated and just turn the damn thing off. I'm going to give the game one more try but i'm done if I go 0-10 in ranked.
>>333225814
dude, be patient and read their moves. its not hard to get the hang of it. try the combo breaker tutorial, that shits new.
its so easy to break combos now, it tells you what you shouldve pressed, the timing is pretty lenient on the breaker and you can even use the right stick to break combos now. its piss easy
>>333225814
Before hopping into ranked to get your ass beat maybe try practicing the basics of the game?
>>333225814
basic fundamentals got me 5-5 online within the first 5 hours of gameplay
AA's, execution and basic footsies are more than most players have at high levels, I swear
I was matched with like 4 level 50s and they just kept jumping in like tards
>>333222398
Shadow orchid.
:^]
>>333226010
When I try to read their moves its too late and the damage has already been done. I swear man it gets me upset to no end because I know i'm better than the player it's just i can't break a fucking combo.
>>333226052
I've been doing this for hours and the combo breaker mechanic has just been telling me to fuckoff and take this damage.
>>333227123
Yea, man that's great that you're doing well.
>>333222258
>V-Trigger is basically instinct
>Business model is very similar to KIs
>Still doens't have fucking frame data or hitbox viewer in the goddamned game
How fucking retarded is Capcom? Jesus fucking christ.
Obviously you're not fucking better if you lost, you god damn salt dispensary.
>>333212852
Straight up this game is ass.
>no Guts armor for Tusk
>>333229073
(You)
>>333229073
Said nobody ever. Just because its not your kinda genre doesn't make it a piss game, faggot.
>>333222398
There's a mummy, a gargoyle, a vampire, and a werewolf. I think we need a vampire/monster hunter.
>>333229181
>no He-Man skin for Tusk
>>333229543
well Vampire is confirmed
i think we could use a demon hunter
so does the game work yet?
when matchmaking, the game crashes to desktop literally more than half the time. and that's casuals. ranked is utterly broken and does not work.
i want to like it, but it's another fuckawful win10 release.
>>333229792
It's been working fine for me. Check your firewall settings.
>>333229335
Keep on shilling for this bullshit FOR FREE this game is ass.
>>333229792
Yeah that's on your end. the game has ran flawlessly for me.
>>333229880
my shit's wide open, dude.
lots of people are having this problem. are you on the bone or win10? i imagine the bone release works better.
>>333229978
Why? Genuinely curious.
I love this game dude ,I specially love Rash and his fucking taunt.I'm ass at the game but to be honest I'm having a blast even when I lose.
>anon on /sp/ tells me to check this out to play a good fighting game to play on my Xbox
>Free characters are legit not interesting
>Literally don't even know what the fighting even is
>Thought this was like mortal kombat meets street fighter
So is street fighter not coming to xbox? because this game has more cancer than craig sager and is extremely boring.
greetings from /sp/ btw
>>333230583
I think Rash needs a nerf. Right now he is easily top 3. Too good.
>>333230689
>So is street fighter not coming to xbox?
xbox doesnt want the fighting game crowd. they just want the call of fifafiel'09 crowd
>>333230689
Last KI came out 20 years ago. You must be fairly young if this is your first time trying this system.
>>333230716
I know nothing about tiers or any of that stuff anon , all I know is that I'm enjoying the fuck out of the game.
>>333230956
not him but the mechanics in the new ki are completely different from the originals. they dont play the same at all.
>>333230859
That why KOF, Tekken Tag and Skullsgirls are backwards compatible? Blazblue also available. People ask for them and they make it happen.
>>333231090
True. But most people who were hardcore or casually into KI knew this came out. Anon said it was recommended.
>>333228159
its lag HONK HONK
>>333230958
I am just saying to brace yourself for crippling changes.
>>333231370
I'm cool bro like I said I'm ass ,even with Rash I got perfected twice because I have no idea how to get out of certain situations but I'm still enjoying the game.
>>333231551
You're right, as long as you enjoy it. I think they did a good job integrating Rash.
>>333231140
come on, mna. why bring up backwards compatible shit? who gives a fuck?
i'm talking about new games. NEW. xbox not getting sfv is ridiculous. it's obvious they're not interested in a certain crowd if they don't release the new version of the most mainstream and popular fighting game ever made.
backwards compatible? pfft what a retarded argument.
>>333230689
>So is street fighter not coming to xbox?
Nope, Sony moneyhatted it, only to give it a paper thin budget and censor it all while saying "This wouldn't exist without us" Doesn't really matter though since SFV is hot fucking trash. So trash that a fucking gay furry who doesn't even play it managed to place in top 16.
>>333231806
>Microsoft is responsible for Capcom getting assreamed by Sony
Good argument retard.
>>333230859
Goddamn it I like fighting games, I got the xbox mostly for gears of war and shit.
>>333230956
Every bit of 24, bro. You mirin muh youth?
>>333231827
Is it worse than this? I gotta try it, because I think this game is extremely boring.
>>333232468
>This game is extremely boring
Sounds to me like you're a scrub.
>>333231806
People jumped of joy when tekken tag first leaked as a BC title. People care. You don't.
As for SFV I am positive you know why it won't be one the bone. I am not entirely sure what you're looking for.
>>333232138
>sony gives capcom a dumptruck full of money to a dying company so they can make a game
yeah, they got fisted for sure
>>333232558
alright man lel what you want me to do?
>>333232592
i used to play tekken in tournaments. i have thousands and thousands of hours played on the ps360 versions, not to mention my player cards. i could have bought a mercedes with the money i've dropped on tekken.
my point is that backwards compatibilty is a bullshit reason to jump for joy. i have a 360. i can play 360 games on that. people are excited about bc on xbone because there is fucking nothing to play on the system. they still havent fixed mcc. microsoft deserves to crash and burn for their hubris.
>>333222954
i get BTvDD exists, but why do you think there can be double dragon crossovers in this game, i really doubt arcsys wants that.
>>333221625
FOR THE DEAD, THERE IS ONLY ONE RULESTAY DEAD
>>333232806
>A dumptruck full of money
Where exactly did it go? It sure as fuck didn't go into artwork, modes, features, characters, graphics, or netcode, since all of those things are either missing, sub-par, or complete shit.
>>333233123
The bone is missing guilty gear and SFV. The rest of the fighters is still on the console. Tekken 7 is coming as well.
As for games on the bone, it's subjective compared to the other ones.
Does anyone else think Jago's iron mask is retarded looking? What was wrong with using a piece of cloth?
>>333232806
>SFV
>a dumptruck full of money
>>333234101
It's a Mongolian thing. Apparently
>>333234101
A little bit, that's part of the reason I love Shagos design so much more.
any good primers or rundowns on how each character plays? I don't know if I wanna plop down $50 on this game yet and I don't like Sabrewulf
>>333234561
What are your mains in other fighting games?
>>333234561
>Not loving "Rushdown: The Charater"
Saberwulf is love, Saberwulf is going ham with his combo's only to bate a combo breaker to then punish and get in 50% damage without using shadow because Saberwulf is too fast. Saberwulf is being able to cross up someone standing because you did a 5 frame dash and can buffer in a opener to then get in a full manual combo and trash someone utterly so.
...I'm going to be fucking sad once to rotation kicks in as he's too fucking fun.
so exactly when does the fun come in?
>>333234561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN3qQ2n3r4Y&list=PL6Zpep0TMBYSud6B6s0kqCfnciwZboRzc
They're really short videos that summarize most characters pretty well.
http://ki.infil.net/sabrewulf.html
This website is pretty much considered to be the go to guide for the game.
>>333234561
yeah I dont think I'll put any money into this unless there's some offline pirated version with all characters.
counter breaking is really just guessing
>>333228159
>its too late and the damage has already been done
but it hasn't.
A few autos and specials might take like 5-10% max, breaking their combo recovers your white health. Getting broken turns a strong combo into shit damage.
>>333235454
If you're a retard who wants to get counter broken for like 90% sure.
>>333235454
its called "hard reads" in the fightan community
>>333235653
he said counter breaking your dumbass
>>333213965
you are just full of shit
>>333235454
Naa, there's a lot of attacks some charater's have that are 'obvious' of the attack strength, allowing the opponet to combo breaker them easly, and when you do that, canceling it into a counter breaker lets you punish the attempt, reset your combo meter, and gives you a ton more damage output in turn. The only 'guessing' part is if your opponent is someone who is smart enough to attempt such, or knows your fishing for it and will wait it out in turn.
>>333224207
What that means is that you can't just do opener straight into ender. Meaning if you try to skip breakable parts in a combo, then you can break the ender when you normally can't. Especially when you are low on health, some players might try to skip that past you. When you're waiting for a manual, auto double or linker, after being hit, they try and just go straight into the ender and catch you off guard. The rule of enders not being breakable if invalid if they try to perform it straight after an opener.
benis
>play some guy named WaifuEnthusiast
>they play Hisako
Of course they play Hisako. Maybe they could've won if they picked the only decent waifu and best girl: Riptor. She's too much fun.
>>333237858
>If only they were a disgusting furry pedophile like me
>>333223749
Apparently he's been nerfed, according to the forum at least.
>>333238019
>Hisako shitters
>>333238019
>furry
>>333237858
>WaifuEnthusiast
Holy shit I'm fighting him right now
>>333237858
>Never free
>Only good outfit is a skin you gotta pay for
>Is at the end of the day just Saberwulf but having more range options forgoing the cross up dash
I think I'll just stick with Saberwulf for now.
>choosing xdone over grorious nipponstation
-sub hd
-ads constantly interrupting gameplay
-100 bucks more expensive
-spying on you
-cant share games
-slow as a rock
-controller is inferior (still using batteries lol)
-basic features are behind a paywall
-download speed is capped at 50 kb/s
-no future due to MS focusing on pc
-installs take literally hours
-bc is silky smooth 10 fps
-the exclusives are vastly inferior, with microtransactions that killed the series the games represent, irredeemably
>>333240617
#4theshills
>>333240823
haha stay delusional xdrone
#sonywinsagain
>>333240617
>>333240823
>>333240951
>Not playing KI on PC
You know systems are dead all over yeah?
>>333241003
>playing ms games on w10
I pity you
>>333241108
>Can't into dual booting
I pity you more.
>>333241394
>installing two ocs
messy person
>>333234778
Faust in GG, Yun in SF4, Karin in SFV - it's hard to say cuz I don't really stick to one type. I just like strong characters.
>>333235168
I'll take a look through these, thanks.
Does this one have finishers like the old game? I can't seem to find anything conclusive on the topic.
>>333242476
Nope, no fatalities/no mercy moves
>>333242476
Using finishers is a major point to maximize damage in this game. Every move your characters have has a finisher version of it that could potentially continue your combo if you aren't at the combo limit. This game is pretty damn open ended with its comboing too.
TL;DR: Yes. Plenty of finishers. Unless you mean like ultimates in which case only Shadow Jago has that
>>333243404
he obviously meant fatality style finishers, not combo finishers which are called 'enders'
>>333242476
only one character has a finisher
>>333242476
>Combo finishers
Yes
>Round Finishers
...Kinda...? There are Ultra's, and there are two kinds of Ultras, Stage Ultras, and Character Ultras. The former is with a stage like fatality. The latter is just a beat down. Sadly it is a step down from the older KI in that regard.
Is Sabrewulf worth buying if I already have Riptor? I don't wanna lose my furry buddy when his free week is over, but I feel I should try to get more than just rushdown characters.
Who /spinal/ here? Only been playing for 2 days because I'm disappointed with SFV but this guy is crazy fun.
>>333245638
Saberwulf is a more direct rushdown, and if you're good at that, he works great. Riptor's got more range in her kit, and doesn't need to be in someone's face 24/7 to hammer it home. Really up towards you.
I've been maining Glacius since early Season 2 (before that I was Sabrewulf).
Now I am so spoiled by Glacius I can't really play anyone else besides Omen. Feels weird
Basically me right now. I can't go back to SFV after this. It's just too good of a game. And the characters are fucking amazing fun.
Guys, season 1+2+3 cost about 49~USD in my country, worth it?
Is Maya good bros? I want to play her, kan ra, or omen. I kinda want to play kan ra because hes a loner like mei also suck at fighting games
kim wu buffs when?
>>333247448
yeah
Is there anyone that plays similar to dudley in SF4?
>>333247548
kan ra is super technical but up there, maya is a pretty good choice too. Not sure about omen since i havent seen much of him to be honest
>>333247682
Riptor...kinda
>Steps to Combo Breaking:
1) Learn the characters. The way it works is you're supposed to press both light, medium, or heavy buttons depending on what combo they're using. If they're hitting you with a light chain, pressing both light buttons will Combo break if pressed at the right time
2) Learn the proper audio cues. The game makes it relatively easy to hear when you're supposed to be pressing both l/m/h buttons. This just takes practice
3) Learn the characters. Take time to figure out everybody. It seems daunting, but honestly, it's a matter of pressing random on the character every time you play in order to get used to everyone. Learning everybody's light, medium and heavy combos will make it easier to pick up on visual cues in order to combo break.
tl;dr Git gud, practice more, don't play a competitive game unless you intend to invest some time in to it.
>>333248123
3) Learn the characters more*
>>333247719
Who has good resources on ki? It seems sparce. When I youtubed I got mostly old maximilian videos
>>333248123
>Take time to figure out everybody.
Unless you're a f2p and then you can't outside of fighting bots, and then it's not even always clear if it's a L/M/H till you attempt. I know where you're coming from, but it would be far easier if in training mode you could use whoever you wanted to get a better understanding of what they do then fighting a bot and learning via proxy.
>>333248246
http://ki.infil.net/index.html is a really good site but as for learning specific characters, it kind of comes down to the youtube channel or twitch archive of who plays them. cstyles for aganos, crazy lcd for maya, orchid, and maya, paul b for riptor, sabrewulf, and hisako, bass for spinal
those are just the ones off the top of my head and they may not have exactly what you're looking for but decent start if you want demos besides text
>>333248515
*maya, orchid, and kim wu
>>333248515
Thanks anon. Wish there were more character specific resources for ki
