I still have not beaten this game and i've had it since release.
>75 hours
>1000 soft resets
>Chapter 23
I'm really considering turning off permadeath, but i know it will ruin the challenge.
>>333209989
Do what you want to do anon.
>>333209989
Me too anon. I didn't lower the difficulty but I bought the gold DLC for skills and items to make it easier. I didn't even finish end game.
>>333209989
>>333210682
What do you guys think is the problem for both of you?
>>333210682
I love this series, but I feel like I'm cheating myself by making it easier. I still have Rev to play through.
>>333210773
For me, my mage Nyx is trash. She gets slaughtered by most enemies dispute being roughly the same level. Enemies rock silver weapons and blast my guys. They don't care about the debuff since they are all sucicidal kamikaze.
>>333211105
Then I'd suggest dropping her or using a couple of stat boosters/using Defense stance. Nyx is notoriously squishy.
>>333211326
I also turned my Ophelia into a Great Lord, but she turned out weak. Good stats in most catergories, not in strength or def. Too late to reclass her into a decent mage I think.
>>333209989
>soft resets
>challenge
>being this autistic over RNG game
Can someone explain to me why you even have perma death on if you just reset your game every time 1 person dies
>>333212697
The challenge. You get frustrated when you have to reset constantly if you constantly make stupid decisions/don't pay attention. People do ironman runs and turn permadeath off for those who don't want to do it. It's just something that had been done until the recent games added the ability to turn it off. Even the developers have admitted to resetting.
>>333212697
It forces you to be careful the next time you run it and not do stupid shit.
>>333212697
It makes it so you have to plan out your strat an not mindlessly bumrush with little repurcussion.
>>333212697
I've never been a fan of permadeath either. But if I lose a guy in Conquest, that person gets denied the chance to earn experience points and weapon proffciency. I'll be resetting regarded.
>>333212697
That's like asking why people would bother trying to get higher ranks in action games when you can still get to the end with nothing but C ranks and shit.
>>333212697
They are autistic
Play the game in the way that gives you the most fun and enjoyment. There's no point in torturing yourself with rage when you could be having a much more pleasant experience. It's better to focus on your own self-enjoyment instead of getting angry over self-imposed challengesYou filthy disgusting degenerate casuals
>>333211105
Nyx is a horrible unit. Her stat progression is awful. Shouldn't have used her anon.
>>333209989
Daily reminder you are playing a shitty censored meme game
>>333215260
That was from the Fan Translation wasn't it? And at this point who honestly cares? Those who are gonna pirate will do so, and those who want to buy it will do so.
>75 hours
>Game has been out for just over 6 weeks
>>333209989
>Turning off perma death is an option
Havent played the 3DS titles, have they truly become this gigantic piece of casual shit
>>333215698
That's not all anon. In Fates you now have the option of Phoenix Mode. Which will revive units on the NEXT TURN. Casual and yes, Permadeath off is called Casual Mode, only revives them after the battle.
>>333215698
It's optional, its existence doesn't ruin the experience
>>333215984
Someone post THE webm.
>>333216228
I don't understand why people get all pissed off about that. In the old games all the Lords aside from Leif, Roy, and *maybe* Lyn were pretty damn hardy.
Tunic Marth ate mages (the usual "Lord killer") alive and was damn near invincible once he got the Shield of Seals + Falchion.
>>333216539
Anon I feel like you and me are talking about two different things.
>>333215023
>That's like asking why people would bother trying to get higher ranks in action games when you can still get to the end with nothing but C ranks and shit.
That's a dumb analogy
High rank most likely requires skill where as this is just luck and trial and error
It's like using save states in a game
>>333215465
I've already put in 150 between Birthright, Conquest, and Revelations. Beaten all 3.
>>333216021
At least tell me it blocks true ending or something.
>>333219042
Nope.
>>333209989
You've probably let your units fall behind. Or your strategy is shit. Most likely a combo of the two. Try doing child chapters, they're free XP
>>333215123
It's not a challenge without permadeath though. The level can be beat with a few strong units. The challenge is keeping everyone alive.
>>333209989
If you're soft resetting anyway you might aswell turn off perma-death.
>>333219226
The game scales with your levels.
Wait, the game counts soft resets?
>>333219042
It makes you feel pathetic and shows how bad of a leader you are.
>>333219467
Doesn't that only occur in Paralogues and Xenologues? I thought the campaign stays consistent?
>>333215023
You fucking suck at analogies. As a matter of fact soft would be more difficult since you don't get exp, while using resetting mode you just lose a minute of your life.
>>333220080
Feels like it's scales to me. I bought that boo camp thing and power leveled everyone to level 12 (32) and the next stage all the enemies were close to that level. Maybe a few under.
>Awakening/Fates-babbies complaining about difficulty
>>333220502
QUIT MAKING FUN OF US
>>333220502
Fire Emblem 6 was the hardest one before Conquest.
>>333220502
To be fair, Conquest itself is probably the hardest one to ever get localized.
>>333220661
No, 5.
come to my castle, it has useful stuff and a very interesting version of Camilla
>>333220419
Interesting. Well, even if it does, there are other ways to make your team more effective. More supports equal more boosts during combat, and I always had at least 1/3 of my army as underleveled support units such as healers, pair ups, and Rally users. I also almost always have a Vanguard unit like Xander or Effie(aka someone who can tank the ENTIRE front line and put my main army in a good position).
Also, make sure to use the Mess Hall back in the castle.
>>333220918
Oh yeah, even my generals take too much damage in this game. I'm used to seeing NO DAMAGE appear all the time. Not in conquest. Chip damage galore.
>>333221252
You also use damage reducing units like Elise, Azura, and Camilla?
I just started and already I'm conflicted.
I want to pick nohr cause I've lived my life with my brothers and sisters. But Fuck that guy 'father' who used me to kill my mother.
On another side, hoshido have been searching for me since I was missing. I don't really know them but feel empathic to their plight.
If I pick nohr can I kill 'father'?
>>333221958
You kill Garon in both routes. Though he's different between the routes.
>>333222063
Different?
>>333221958You kill Garon in both paths
>>333221958
Yes,well actually no you kill the husk of what used to be the Nohrian king
Also aside from Hinoka and Kaze Hoshido has been really slacking honestly
>>333222113He's a dragon in one route and a slime monster in the other.
>>333222113
His personality is a bit slime-ier in Conquest
>>333221958
Do Hoshido, then Nohr. Nohr is much more challenging so you'll bore yourself to death playing Hoshido second.
>>333222146
Is that takumi he's carrying or me?
>>333209989
>the challenge
If you're just soft resetting whenever anyone dies then you aren't experiencing the real challenge anyway faggot.
>>333222287
Corrin. Look at the ears.
>>333222287
Check the ears
I figure I'll ask here instead of making a thread-
I'm new to FE but just recently picked up Birthright and I'm really enjoying it. Just one question- when does the class I initially pick enter into the game? I picked archer for Corrin but his class is still Nohr prince.
again this is my first FE game so be gentle.
>>333222240
Will picking no side ruin the story since I didn't play the others?
>>333222287
Look at his ears, it's neither. Unless you're a dragon or an elf
>>333222310
You have to restart the whole level over, how is that not necessary a challenge?
>>333222407
>first FE
>Birthright
Man, my condolences.
>>333222415
Yes. It's meant to be the true route that answers the story questions left out by the two regular routes.
>>333222407
When you use a Heart seal.
>>333222427
>Unless you're a dragon or an elf
Are you serious nigga?
>>333222587
thanks, anon
>>333213069
>>333213253
>>333214121
>>333214795
>>333215023
>casuals
Let your units die, get the game over screen, delete your save and try again, you filth
>>333209989
Don't listen to the Ironmeme fags, and dont turn off permadeath.
-Keep resetting chapters as you need to, and improve your tactics.
-Use kid chapters like another anon suggested, if you think your units have fallen behind in exp
-Buy a skill or two online if you really have to, its better than giving up on perma death and the game will continue to be challenging
-Along with buying a skill, maybe buy and upgrade weapons if you're holding back on spending. You have a finite amount of money, part of the fun/challenge is allocating it to good use.
-I know when I get frustrated on a reset, I rush and turn off animations and lose because of a screw up. Just go slow, turn animations back on, and get comfy and focused
Last one works for me a lot. All the benefits of chilling out like watching battles play out, and the music getting more pumped upand watching your waifu or avatar kick assreally helps you have a good time and thus do better.
>>333222898
I feel like the challenge is continuing without your troops.
Now if you die then yeah just reload cause that's ridiculous. Course if you lose someone don't commit suicide.
Now no one is going to keep an eye or care cause this challenge is personal and for you looking for something to test against not brag
>>333222407
It's the class you can change to with a Heart Seal. Everyone else's Heart Seal class is locked to them, but Corrin's is the one you pick as a talent at the start.
>>333209989
I basically gave up there and started recruting op units from other players,
>/v/ hype up a FE game's difficulty
>you buy it months later when it's on sale and beat half the chapters in 1 turn
Is it going to be Awakening once again?
>it's a Takumi chapter
>>333223194
Might as well play on Normal/Phoenix or watch some faggot play the game on youtube
>>333223249
I'd say try Conquest Lunatic and then make that judgement.
>>333223249
>he's a hoshidocuck
K so when i grind in birthright my units get debuffed by every unit and i end up with 0 strength, wtf is going on i thought only shuriken/daggers debuff
>>333219467
No... it doesn't
I wish I knew how to take screenshots on my DS of a level 23 Keaton raping level 16 Merchants on Chapter 26
>>333223384
That's what /v/ said about Awakening lunatic.
>>333223307
>>333222407
It's used when you use the Heart seal, based on personalty. It doesn't matter too much on Birthright since Corrin can use a partner seal to take the class of anyone be A ranks and the classes Hoshido don't get you wouldn't use for him anyway.
But on Conquest you might want to plan it out to cover the classes that Nohr don't get, Swordsmaster especially.
For now, biggest advice is
1) Get used to playing with the enemy range map on, and to highlighting key enemies like archers or killer weapons.
2) A rank Kaze ASAP
3) Norh Prince -> Sword master (Buy a Levin sword from a Nohrian my castle) -> Hoshido Noble
>>333212697
Because you're treating 1 death = Game Over.
Besides, if you let units die, you just end up with a small core of overpowered units, making things easier.
>>333220502
Conquest is one of the hardest ones, probably harder than RD for me
>>333220661
That's not Thraca
>>333223558
How about you go play instead of being a cûck on /v/
>>333223475
Check the enemy skills/weapons. Shurikens/daggers are not the only things that debuff.
>>333223584
post more lewd sakura
>>333223475
Are you using SIilver tier weapons? Cause silver tier weapons lower your stats after each fight.
>>333223475
Are you using silver weapons or other weapons like Dragonstone+ which debuff you after every attack?
>>333223579
where these from
>>333223194
I fucked up and spread xp too thin
>>333223690
Go to /feg/.
>it's a fuga's wild ride episode
Would it be more accurate to just play birthright and conquest at the same time, then play revelations after?
>>333223892
>>333223716
>>333223734
Fuck i forgot weapons do different shit now,
>>333223584
Sakura is like an anti nyx, she looks okder but acts like a child, whats up with that
>>333224052
muh precious flower
Really though, she is shy where elise is obnoxious.
>>333223947
Just in case you need a quick refresher:
>Bronze Tier weapons cant crit or activate skills
>Iron tier is standard, no setbacks
>Steel Tier effectively lowers your speed by 3 (while equipped, not after battles)
>Silver tier drops your Strength or Magic and Skill stat by 2 after every fight
>A rank tier usually drops cuts your offensive stat AFTER a fight in half until you get out of another fight with a different weapon.
>tfw my child is a shit tier unit
>>333223895
Do Br first. Conquest's story is even worse without understanding Br.
Revelations after.
>>333224312
My Kana is only a bit weaker than my Corrin right now.
>>333224312
LODESTAR OR GREAT LORD KANA IS A BEST
>>333224312
Kana always ends up my second most powerful after Corrin.
Hell, with Aether she could solo the second to last BR map. Even Corrin eventually got worn down
>>333224312
Morgan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KanaThis is objective fact.
>>333224293
Ugh i kinda like the new layer of strategy it provides but steel weapons are weak af and strong weapons fuck me over, they should
>>333224571
I haven't seen anyone ever claim that Kana>Morgan
>>333224514
>with a DLC skill she can solo part of the easiest route
wow what an amazing unit
>>333224680
>DLC Skill
How the fuck do you buy skills?
>>333224312
>should of
Did Corrin get brain damage when he was kidnapped?
Chapter 19 and Endgame of Conquest are shit maps, besides them the route is pretty fucking good.
revelation worst route.
>>333224795
Aether is only obtainable through beating certain downloadable maps.
>>333224514
My Corrin is top tier after really grinding out abilities in Revelations.
I have Replicate (reminder that this is with Blazing Yato, with +4 Strength, Speed, Def, And Res), Swordfaire, Dragon Fang, Draconic Hex, and Galeforce. Aka Corrin with his replica can individually kill 4 units a turn.Anankos never stood a chance
>>333223584
thankyou both.>>333223165
>>333224680
The point is Corrin couldn't (and he could solo the same equivalent map on Conquest).
Not like any of the other units in the army could match that.
>>333224571
Morgan and Kana are purposefully completely different, to prevent comparison. That's why she's like 12 to Morgan's 16-18ish
>>333224795
You do the free DLC map, it's really fun and has some awesome dialogue for Severa, Owain and a few others.
>>333224923
Conquest is a shit tier route saved only by great maps and mechanics. >>333224923
>>333225364
>it's shit except for it's great
nice post I read it
Oh, wow!
While grinding for Shigure's father and sibling supports, I made a rather interesting discovery:
Shigure can indeed use a Heart Seal to reclass into a sub-human if Azura takes the knot!
So, if you ever see a Shigure with Grisly Wound in someone else's castle, feel free to grab it. It's legit.
>>333225364
>conquest is shit tier but also really good
???
Yeah the plot is ass but none of the Fates routes have good plot anyway.
>>333224571
I've literally never seen anyone claim otherwise
>>333225837
Kana is cuter, but Morgan is better as a unit.
>>333225893
>Kana is cuter
>>333224929
Can you setup an easy capture castle so I can get galeforce for my Corrin? I'm building a team for online play and I missed the dark flyer train with Corrin. I would suck your dick if you do this, anon.
Should I make a +Skill/-Mag Corn a Paladin, Bow Knight, or Vanguard?
>>333209989
What I do is make it hard mode, casual. So the game is harder, but I don't have to waste hours soft-resetting.
>>333225967
you can't buy galeforce
>>333225967
Someone remind me how GF was nerfed again?
>>333225967
>>333226308
Correct, you can't buy it, but if you haven't already, buy that one seal from the Staff shops that allow you to advance 5 additional levels.
>>333226338
It only activates on the player turn and only if the unit is solo(no pair up or assist at all)
>>333225584
>>333225646
The plot is literally so bad in parts I had to put my 3DS down. Say what you want about Awakening or Birthright but at least the plot moves along logically.
>>333226562
who gives a fuck
watch a movie
>>333226338I
t wont activate while paired up, and after it activates you can't have another character use attack stance with you. Still good though for VERY strong solo characters
>tfw can't get wifi to work on my 3DS at uni
>2 weeks before Fates comes out in the US
>go to nearby Kikubucks and use their wifi to hack 3DS and install Fates
>start lunatic/classic Conquest
>take up to weeks on some chapter but get through with no casualties or wifi/DLC support
>on Chapter 26 right now
>been trying to beat Sigbert's Paralogue for around a week
At this point I just want this ride to end so I can play Birthright and Marry Sakura.
>>333226469
Shit I completely forgot about that seal. Thanks familia
>>333226783
>Sigbert's Paralogue
Not gonna lie, all the bitching I've seen about it makes me anxious about marrying off Xander.
>>333226562
>birthright moved logically
My sides
>>333228224
I personally didnt think it was that bad. One of the easier actually.
>>333222445
>having reading comprehension this poor
>>333222898
>MUH ORIGINAL PURPOSE
You would restart if one of your key units died to a 3% crit. Of course, if you're so entitled with your argumwnt, then you can fuck off to the trash that is Serenes or GameFAQs.
Call me a casual but there's something very off putting about waves of reinforcements coming out of fucking no where and RNG favoring the enemy so much that they can reliably depend on 55% chance of hitting you.
Yeah, I'll finish Conquest but my the amount of fun I'm having here is dropping compared to Birthright. Especially when you consider that S rank supports are crucial for more units/ exp but some pairings are strategically bad during missions.
>>333230561
Still better than Awakening's reinforcements that arrived out of nowhere AND moved on the same turn.
>>333230084
>figuring out how to beat a level with no casualties is more casual than using units as meat shields
>>333231220
Never moving forward in the game unless you have every unit alive is missing the point of them dying anon. It's a shame you're too autistic to realize this and just keep smugposting. It's casual as fuck because you'll always have properly trained soldiers because they never died.
>>333233004
How casual do you have to be to think it's harder to let units die than to not let them die.
>>333229749
The problem is that I got actually 3fps on this map and that Siegbert dies literally the next turn.
>>333233247
>missing the point this hard
Your way you always start a chapter with the best possible circumstance. Losing units adds challenge because that's experience points spent on a character that's gone now, that's a type of character that's gone now. It removes options you have, making it harder to win in future situations that might be easier if you had more of a certain kind of unit but they died. It's not like you're doing a perfect run in one go, you have infinite resets that cost you nothing but time in real life and have no negative consequences in the game.
You're only thinking about that one battle, I'm thinking in terms of future battles after that 'failure.'
Now you can disagree and that doesn't make you dumb, but you couldn't even fathom my position and that makes you fucking stupid.
>>333209989
you fucking suck dick
just don't play if you suck that hard
>>333234294
You keep emphasizing that you're going to lose your strong and invested units, but that's not what usually happens. The ones who die are the underlevelled units you only bring for the sake of using as meat shields.
I get what you're saying, that if you do happen to lose a strong unit and still beat the level, the next level will be much harder, but you'd be pretty dumb to let that happen if you still have weak units to sacrifice.
>>333234760
>using the weak units as the meat shields instead of the strong ones
Holy shit no wonder you have fucked up views on difficulty, you don't know how to play these kinds of games.
>>333234960
That is what ends up happening. If a strong unit is in KO range and has no where to run, but can be saved by putting a much much much weaker unit in the enemie's way, that's what you do.
>>333223801
the derp-realms.
>>333234294
Not that guy, but I've played both Ironman and Classic runs of Fire Emblem games and they're both a very different kind of challenge.
Classic forces me to play perfectly. Especially in games like Conquest on a higher difficulty, I cannot make a single mistake. I cannot proceed until I have totally mastered the map.
Ironman is far more stressful because every single decision counts and I have to play to the best of my ability the very first time. But the fact is that losing one or two or even three or four units over a period of time will not break my army. Unless it's something like Awakening Lunatic+ where units can potentially drop like flies, clearing the game will be easier. My very first playthrough of a FE game was an Ironman and even blundering through being absolutely fucking awful at the game, I won.
>>333235717
>Awakening Lunatic+
I don't want to remember that.
>>333233258
You get to control him right away, you can offspring seal him to usability or move him to safety.
>>333226783
Siegbert's paralogue is probably one of the easier ones in the game.
Shiro's gets really fucky if you don't do it early enough too.
>>333236680
It's not that I find it all that difficult, especially after shit like Takumi's wall, Sakura's maze and Mr Fuuga's wild ride. I've just been burnt out recently with FE and haven't played it much for a week.
>>333209989
>that guy who switches to casual mode on a hard chapter
>>333236680
>Shiro's gets really fucky if you don't do it early enough too.
>Rescue.
>>333209989
>Plan on grinding out sibling paralogues late game
>Ninjas fucking kill Ignatius in 1-2 turns at lv 18
Fuck this broken imbalanced piece of shit. Mobile slop like Trash Royale has better scaling balance.
>>333237497
>Ignatius
I haven't gotten him but do you have control of him in his paraligue?
>>333238039
IIRC Not until you talk to him, til then he sits his ass on the village you have to protect
>>333237497
>Don't level a character
>Complain when he gets killed
???
>>333238039
No, and it's fucking retarded
He sits on a Seize point and is underlevel as shit. 2 ninjas gangrape him in a single turn, then march right over the point and game over your ass before even a wyvern or peg rider can get within 5 squares of it.
Absolute shite system.
>>333238230
Just rescue him.
>>333238184
>level a npc you just met
k lad
>>333237497
Anyone else prefer Awakening's crit cut ins, with just the eyes?
>>333237497
Get two fliers and strap Benny and your strongest unit to them, preferably one that can one-round Ninjas. I used Velouria. Fly straight to Ignatius ASAP, recruit with Benny and have him promote on the spot. Have a staff user ride along paired up with another mounted unit follow on the safe path along the mountain to support with staves as necessary. A clutch Freeze made all the difference in my successful attempt.
My Ignatius was able to survive one turn in contact with the Ninjas, giving my fliers just enough time to save him. Hopefully yours can too, or else you might have to resort to shenanigans involving dancing and Rescue.
>>333230803
>Complaining about a mechanic that only happened on Lunatic+
>Lunatic+ only opens when you've beaten the game on Lunatic
>Seriously not knowing the game well enough to deal with that by the time you're paying on the full autism difficulty mode
>>333238460
m8, ambush spawns plagued Awakening as early as Hard mode.
>>333238384
Depends on the character. Arthur's crit just wouldn't be the same without him flashing the cheesiest smile
>>333238230
>>333238312
How do you possibly have a problem with this map? I did it at chapter 19-20 so be didn't even get to use the offspring seal he should have had, and it was still fine.
You've got plenty of turns to act and if you can't handle the small group that rushes him then you've fucked up huge.
Absolutely worst case Corrin can deal with them either solo or with a defensive partner.
