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>westernshit RPG on 50% sale for PC
>whynot.xtt
>it's GOAT

Why the fuck didn't you tell me /v/?
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>>333186427

we had threads proclaiming this game as the GOTY when it came out like 2 years ago. You aren't that new, are you?
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>>333187107

N-no, but I don't usually partake in PC gaming as my neither my budget nor my need to win the respect of local Anons on Danish kite-flying boards has ever warranted Mustard status.

I was just really really blown away at the fact that the PC got games this good. Are there any others like it?
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>>333186427
You need to hang out on /v/ more, anon.
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Because you're a fucking faggot who thinks .type meme greentext is or ever was funny.

Type like a normal person you fucking asshole.

But yeah, game is pretty good, especially co-op. Nothing like losing an argument with your partner, who proceeds to go upstairs with a male prostitute, gets robbed and has to fight bare knuckle while you spend your rounds trying to break down the door to save his ass.
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>>333187275

If you mean "semi-isometric party-based RPG," there are lots. If you mean, with a similar spell and class system, no, Divinity pretty much made its system from scratch.
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well the east hasn't made a good rpg in ages so its pretty much up to the west to pick it up these days
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>>333186427
can you fuck your companion?
if not - shit game
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>>333187550

How much of a fucking tool are you? The internet is literally 90% porn, and you need it hamfisted into every game like a fucking puppet?

How fucking simple are you? Immediately kill yourself.
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>>333187713
>mad shit shill dev
stay irrelevant you sjw-pandering loser that lost control over his own creative process. just off yourself, you can't even be called an artist anymore. pathetic spineless loser
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>>333186427

Tried to get in to this 2 different times but couldn't find any effective builds.

How do I git gud?
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>>333187973
Mages, my nigger, mages all day.

One should always be in your party.

2 if you're going tacticool difficulty.
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>>333187973

The first part of the game is really brutal. You just have to endure it, and your party will come into their own by chapter 2.
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>>333187973

if you mean the VERY beginning of the game, fighting with swords and daggers is especially weak there since you're fighting undead. It's not really indicative of how strong those weapons are for the entire game.
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>20 bucks

I can't afford this with my mcbucks.
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How toaster friendly is this?
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playing this game lately. (with steam controller n big scrn) love it. zombie nick is my homie
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>>333187550
I don't think they fuck but I think you can make the source hunters fall in love, even if they are both boys or both girls
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>>333188920
Me and my brother have been playing it co-op and the moments where the two source hunters interact are funny as fuck when it's another player making the dialogue choices, and not just you RPing your characters.
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>>333188659

OP here, very. My computer is essentially a brick with two wires on top (I'm usually a consolefag) and it runs pretty well on medium at steady 50 fps if Fraps is to be believed.
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>>333186427
>Why the fuck didn't you tell me /v/?
But we did.
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>>333186427
Original yes although it felt a little soulless near the end.

Enhanced Edition sounds good but they added the abomination that is dual wielding...
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>>333190797
>Another DOTA game with different title lol.

We need a genocide soon.
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>>333190797
You do realise that it came on consoles, right?

The original version was garbage either way.
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>That one Texan VA that voices most female characters
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>>333190797
So you're aware it's on PS4 and X1 right? It's a really good port too.
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>>333187973

It's important that you understand that the game starts off really hard.

>all skellies are practically over your level
>there are always more skellies than you have people in your party
>it's always raining, giving you a drastic hit to accuracy
>you always miss, skellies never do
>skellies are immune to bleeds and poisions

Stick with it, and it'll get easier, but the early part is no cake-walk.
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>>333191036
It bombed on consoles. Which is why DivOS2 is PC only.
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>>333191253
>raining, giving you a drastic hit to accuracy

wait, what? I thought all it did was make fire weaker and ice and wind stronger
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>>333186427
I played it when it came out of EA and now with 2 of my friends.
EE controller support is abysmal. And game is so fucking buggy. It's even buggier than Early Access version. Constant crashes of the host game, constant stat reset(not fixed from EA) of client player, new bug preventing characters from talking to NPCs, wrong spell descriptions(thunder jump doesn't even mention a teleport), fuck ups with voice recording(ice elemental anyone) localisation errors. It's a mess, more of a mess than normal version.
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>>333186427
There's this one guy complaining and samefagging in all DOS Threads. I'm happy you bought it and had fun with it.
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>>333191284
did they lower the difficulty? First time I had some problems with this game. I'm cruising through EE. Am I just that good or did they make Classic into a baby mode?
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>>333191396

Nope, also fucks with ranged accuracy if I remember right.
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>>333191284
>Something like million copies sold between the two
>Bombed

Can you please stop acting stupid?

Also, many of the complaints in that picture are valid as fuck when it comes to the original version.

Itemization was shit (just like in all Divinity games I guess), Quest Log did fuckall and often times you had no indication on where to go, first area dragged on forever, some encounters took long ass time (Boreas especially) and more.
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>>333191457
>EE controller support is abysmal
You're abysmal. The controls with a controller are shockingly good. shockingly.

>>333191607
The first version was blatantly unbalanced. And the game released in a pretty unfinished state, so you might have played something akin to a beta.

Try Honor and Tactician modes.
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>>333191686
>>Bombed
EE sold tons. On PC. The ports weren't worth the effort.
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>>333191686
1 million sold between two games is not good
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The game is fucking shit, ITT full of shills. I played it and the game let me kill everyone, overated as fuck
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>>333186427
We did but you only play weeaboo garbage.
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>>333191686
>often times you had no indication on where to go

there was no quest marker but they gave you clues or sometimes outright told you where to go next.
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It lacks a significant amount of polish, but is otherwise pretty good.
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>>333191974
>the game let me kill everyone, overated as fuck

wat
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>>333192090
Freedom in how you accomplish tasks is a design flaw
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>>333191930
>>333191867
>If it doesn't reach the top 25 sales it bombed
???????????

Also, according to steamspy it has 1m owners on Steam. Doubt it's more than 100-200k on GOG.
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>>333191686
>Itemization was shit
True, Inventory was horrible but I managed to clean it with the use of fucktons of bags to separate into different sub-inventories.

>Quest Log did fuckall and often times you had no indication on where to go
Only if you skipped the dialogue. You were always told where what is or where to look. You could even re-read skipped dialogue. Not the games problem if you have the attention span of a retarded goldfish.

>first area dragged on forever
The first Area was the best area in the whole game and had a nice pacing and build-up.

>some encounters took long ass time (Boreas especially) and more.
I don't see the problem with difficult and long boss battles. Although I have to disagree with you - by the time i reached Boreas i three-critted him with Madora after buffs/debuffs.
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>>333191686
>Itemization was shit (just like in all Divinity games I guess)

Hold your horses right there anon, Divine Divinity had god tier itemization not counting the OP as fuck scorpion traps
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>Rock-paper-scissors conversation system
>Cannot pre-buff up your team before going into an encounter because the buffs last about 5 seconds out of combat
>Summons are literally the most overpowered shit in the entire game
>Scoundrel is totally useless; offering less damage, utility, and consistency than any magic tree
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>>333192250
>True, Inventory was horrible but I managed to clean it with the use of fucktons of bags to separate into different sub-inventories.
No, what I mean is that the stats on items were fucked up and most of the time plain junk.

>I don't see the problem with difficult and long boss battles.
Long, maybe. Difficult, no. Shitty gimmicks made that fight way too long.

>by the time i reached Boreas i three-critted him with Madora after buffs/debuffs.
Literally how? I savescummed my ass off to get decent items and even then Madora did fuck all damage.

>The first Area was the best area in the whole game and had a nice pacing and build-up.
Slow as fuck is nice pacing?

>Not the games problem if you have the attention span of a retarded goldfish.
Sure, senpai.
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>>333192491
>>Cannot pre-buff up your team before going into an encounter because the buffs last about 5 seconds out of combat

I don't see why this is necessarily a negative.
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>>333192716
Sawyer plz go and stay go with your nofunallowed approach to game balacne.
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>>333191778
It's ass.
Hold command on everything to put it in the bag. one item at a time.
can't just swap items around, have unequip and then re-equip
bumpers to select an enemy before selecting a spell with almost no indication of how far he is. So half of the time it will give you "target too fat" or "can't see the target". Game constantly hides range radius on spells, so I need to move cursor around to see it, because some spells omit to tell you the range. Sane way is to select a spell and then use shoulder buttons to target enemies you can see and attack, but shoulder buttons don't work after you select a spell.
No way to see effects on your enemies if it's not your turn
No way to quickly see what effects are present on your chars and what they do. Status menu 24\7, and no way to see what status effects are on your other party members.
Throwing items doesn't show you when your char will move, often walking you in traps.
Throw is fucked in general it sometimes doesn't work.
Chars start to waggle around sometimes because they try to use pathfinding for some reason.
Constant errors when selecting things in the world, especially when trying to talk to moving NPCs. 2nd floor of the inn in the first city, that fucking painting next to the stairs.
etc

Game just puts a new inventory screen and radial menu for characters, but combat and world interaction is fucked. You need to use cursor mode all the time. It's shit.
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>>333192491
Prebuff is not a design flaw. If you expect every single rpg to have it then it's your fault. The mechanics in D:OS work well without it. Also, there's many ways to make extremely powerful builds, summons being one of them but not the only one. One good thing about the game is that it offers a good amount of strategic freedom.

I do agree with your first and last points though. Larian confirmed that they're reworking the dialogue system for D:OS 2, so that's a plus
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>>333193020

It's only bad in PoE because PoE is just D&D with the fun taken away. DOS is its own system and it doesn't necessarily need to do everything D&D does.
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>>333191457
I played EE with the steam controller and it works flawlessly.
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>>333193023
>It's ass.
No. You're ass. Literally everybody else I've talked to about it agreed that they work well. You're just a clumsy retard.
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>tfw Kirill Pokrovsky is kill
They can't just replace him!
https://youtu.be/DsmjKEFwUms
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>>333193105
Sorry, I meant to say "Not having prebuff is not a design flaw"
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>>333193105
>>333192716

Not allowing you to pre-buff is deliberate restriction on preparation before a combat scenario.

Given their relative weakness to other abilities it makes them absolutely worthless compared to damaging or crowd controlling effects.
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>>333186427
It's not goat
It's mediocre rpg with shitty, kiddish writing and cartoonish visuals
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>>333193469
>Given their relative weakness to other abilities it makes them absolutely worthless compared to damaging or crowd controlling effects.

Sounds like a completely separate flaw from no prebuffs. Pokemon doesn't have prebuffs and yet some buff strategies are so powerful their usage is restricted or even banned in smogon play.
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>>333187860

>sjw

Where did you even get thatform his comment you faggot
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>>333193229
SC is a separate topic.
>>333193245
How about you try to say I'm wrong in my examples, like I don't know how to select an enemy AFTER I select a spell, or there's a nice way of moving(not spinning) a camera when it's not my turn, or a way to see effects on enemies when it's not my turn.
No, instead you attack me instead. My friends also told me it works flawlessly, until I gave them M+K to try it out, after that all of them said controller support is bad and they prefer M+K. How's that for an anecdotal evidence?
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What's going on here boyz?
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>>333194217
>>>/out/
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>>333193528
>your opinion is wrong
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>>333194217
>>333194281
the two best characters in PoE
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>>333192165

gr8 b8 m8

now kill yourself
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>>333194217
Dude PoE is mediocre as all fuck.

I pirated it when it came out, finished the first act, and uninstalled it, now that it has been updated and has had 2 expansions released I thought I'd try to go through it a gain, once again, first chapter done, cleared the first 10 floors of the endless dungeon and I don't like the game at all, I keep telling myself it'll get better and now I literally reached a place that is a 1:1 copy of the Heart of Winter IWD expansion, so I dropped it again.
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Anyone else slightly worried about DivOS2 and backer influence?
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>>333194596

Why? Story is the main thing for an RPG
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>>333194596
We're never going to get bard despite the devs coming up with something that is practically the Paragon class of Guild Wars 1 and thus god-tier.
>>333194684
Wait for all the polls.
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>>333194739
>>333194596

>tfw when I was totally gonna back this but I put it off and then I missed the deadline
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>>333194739
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>>333194570
your taste is your problem alone, thief
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>>333194853
>>333194848
I personally blame you for these results, just so that you know.
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>>333194596
combat is what made the first Original Sin good.

maybe people voted for story and character development because that's what they felt Original Sin lacked the most
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>>333194967
Wouldn't be so bad if Sven didn't keep moaning about not enough female audience.
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>>333194684
Too bad Larian can't write a good story even if their lives depended on it.
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>>333194848
No worries, we got it all in the end.
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>>333186427
>paying for a game where you move like in runescape or a moba

I can't get behind that shit.
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>>333194892
>shitty nofun class that all use stats the same way
>artificial difficulty by limitation of camping supplies
>HP bloat to circumvent poor design making the game too easy
>boring as fuck class design
>shitty linear progression
>linear story
>fetch quests out the ass
>no real plot reaction to your class/race
>setting doesn't translate into gameplay

and that's only for the first act, I think I did pretty much all the secondary quests and available bounties as well
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poor writing, poor quests, poor totally poor funny humor, poor generic wow visuals, poor unfitting music, poor companions, poor voice acting, poor atmosphere, poor lore
vs
good combat
=GOTY GUISE!
I wonder how much larian is paying you shills
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>>333193342
>Larian Studios sent all backers an email informing us he died

It's...going to be different for OS 2...
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>>333192491
>Scoundrel is totally useless; offering less damage, utility, and consistency than any magic tree
0/10, learn to play.
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>>333194853
fuck that shit. Only reason I took interest in DOE is varied true turn based combat and coop, none of that realtime with smart pause bastardisation.
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>>333195395
>>boring as fuck class design

seriously m8 I played a Cipher because I thought being a psychic or whatever would be cool and different compared to the typical warrior/thief/mage roles you see in RPGs. Aside from the resource mechanic being kinda different I can't even tell you what makes them a whole new different thing compared to wizards. Just another class that blasts things with magic.
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>>333195763
BG2 plebs trying to ruin another series
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>>333195763
I think Larian struck gold with its own hybrid system.
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>>333195395
like i said, your jaded bad taste is your curse
keep playing crpg's just for combat, try skyrim and fallout 4
dumb frogposter
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>>333194596
DivOS already has a gay orc couple in it. I think it's sad how hard it is to actually find a proper review for SoD because of the tranny. People should be more worried about writing, encounters, and quests.
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>>333196143

But PoE is like 90% combat and 10% shitty verbose writing
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>>333193342
Avelone is writing for DOS2, I see. He had been quite productive in these past several years. PoE, Wasteland, Torment, now DOS2.

Apparently he worked on Advanced Edition of FTL as well.
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>>333196173
>DivOS already has a gay orc couple in it.
And they get lynched.
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>>333196143
>try skyrim and fallout 4
> just for combat
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>>333196270
what about dos writing?
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>>333191686
The only times I've ever had encounters take too long were when I wandered into enemies that were far too high level.
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>>333186427
Not our fault you're new
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>>333196273
I think he's become the Tom Clancy of vidya: they just buy his name and stick it on the cover.
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>>333196289
divinity models are so damn bad in every single way
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>>333196489
it's simple and to the point
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>>333196143
>keep playing crpg's just for combat
Thanks, I will, and you can stop trying to hijack a genre that wasn't built for you.
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>>333196273
>Avelone is writing for DOS2
Only few backstories
And thats a good thing, I don't want his writing in the main game
I replayed motb not long time ago and many things in the story were annoying as fuck
For example you can kill Kaelyn for edgy reason like "Maybe your blood will open this gate", but you can't because this bitch goes against your god and wants to ruin everything, as example
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>>333196596
so it's better than poe right?
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>>333196757
He wasn't the lead writer on MotB, I don't think he even was a creative director, he wrote several companions, but that's it.
MotB also has a really dark theme and atmosphere, unlike Divinity.
>>333196582
Well, this sucks.
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>>333196757
I hate you so fucking much
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>>333196929
Story is there. That's it. It's light hearted and simple. It might get a few chuckles out of you and might keep you entertained. If you even played a Lariah RPG you already know what to expect.

I never played PoE.
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>>333186427
/v/ was spammed with threads about divinity when it first launched. Are you new or something?
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>>333196971
>MotB also has a really dark theme and atmosphere
It was more "teen edgy" theme and atmosphere about unfairness of world. If you want to see dark but not edgy game try pathologic
There was nothing dark about it and obsidian played it very safe
It was possible to do so much with Rashemen and Thay with their alien culture and land, but it ended up looking like just another Sword Coast
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It's terrible. All gameplay, no story.
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>>333197721
Just like a game should be and always have been in the past.
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>>333191686
>>Something like million copies sold between the two

Source my ass?
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>>333197721
>gameplay is bad
Only on /v/
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>>333197131
well, that's magnificent
did you ever played planescape torment? I think original sin is still better writing wise
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>>333191036
>The original version was garbage either way.

Original was fine.
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>>333197721
Yes, and?
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>>333196757

Roleplaying as a Doomguard once they added that class in was pretty great in MotB. Partly because rolling Cleric let you use that "I'm offended on behalf of my god" line during the trial and partly because of Kelemvor's unique dialogue when you pick him as your deity.

Playing that way didn't endear me to Kaelyn the same way as my first playthrough.

But on topic, Larian's genuinely my favourite developer. They put so much heart into what they do and I just like their sense of humour and adventure. Original Sin is great, and I'm really looking forward to playing as a skelly in 2.
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>>333197584
HotU > MotB
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>>333198064
>>333197584
Do yourself a favour and don't play any obsidian games ever again.
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>>333198425
Anything NWN1 is garbage
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>>333186427
>Why the fuck didn't you tell me /v/?

Because whenever I tried, we'd get either the CDPR shitposter, or the Obsidian shitposter.
Both act differently, but share the general opinion that if your game has high contrast and bright colors its kiddie garbage, and if it features playful or silly jokes and sorcery it is stupid and for retards.
Mature games for adults such as myself, etc.
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>people shit on the obsidian
Really?
Games like divinity would only win from more mature plot and storytelling
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>>333198590
>share the general opinion that if your game has high contrast and bright colors its kiddie garbage, and if it features playful or silly jokes and sorcery it is stupid and for retards.
aren't they kinda right?
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>>333196273
>Avelone is writing for DOS2, I see.

He is writing the background for a couple of companions.
Literally like 5 pages of text, which may or may not be used.
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>>333198520
Still better than NWN2
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>>333198834
Only if you're underage and get off to brown and bloom, except you're probably too underage to get that reference too.
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>>333198834
No, fun isnt exclusive to children. Adults are allowed fun as well.
Not all RPGs need to be about gray anti-heroes fighting NOTHING WRONG villains from the shadows after walking a path of corpses and blood and betrayal.
In fact, I really wish most werent like that.
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>>333198951
Oh, you mean like Morrowing?
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>>333198989
Bioware games used to be lighthearted. Fallout used to be self aware and full of jokes too.
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>>333198891
Even NWN developers think NWN is garbage
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Stop shilling. It's pretty average at best.
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>>333199249
>Morrowind
>Bloom
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>>333199328
Oh, that was brown&rust, not brown&bloom.
I guess I am too old, I get them mixed up.
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>>333198834
I reread Myth series and still had lots of fun
I replayed few obsidian games that I loved during my teenage years, and guess I just grew up from their writing now
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>>333198590
Why would a CDPR person say that, the witcher has the same shit and that's what makes it good
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>>333199313
Maybe the OC. NWN2's OC is shit too and NWN1 has the better modules.
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>>333198453

What, for choosing a class to see if it had any dialogue changes after playing the expansion to death?

For the record, turns out it didn't. Clerics are just reasonably fun to play.
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>>333198796
basically
you can't have a decent thread about poe or anything obsidian related anymore, belive me i tried
there's is always at lest one bg fan and a couple of larian fanatics in those threads just to ruin them
larian is the new hip and cool dev who can do no wrong while obsidian is worse than bioware always shit tier
I just don't get it, maybe it's people from rpg codex, maybe it's shitposting, or just manchildren
who knows really
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>>333198796
>>333199768
Is this you responding to yourself, or have you somehow managed to corrupt another person into having this attitude?
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>>333198951
>>333198989
>>333199490
you guys are in every single thread and your hateboner for obsidian is ridiculous
>obsidian games
>during my teenage years
lol, that explains a lot
name them champ
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>>333199982
>corrupt
seriously?
>this attitude
the right attitude? because he's right
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>>333200220
>your hateboner for obsidian
Project more.
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>>333200220
I like Obsidian games. I dislike Obsidian drones.
Not every game benefits from being dark&edgy. Most dont.
Saying Original Sin sucked because it was too colorful or too silly is retarded. I prefer it like that.
This is all I claimed. Everything else is you strawmanning or misunderstanding.

>>333200380
The "us against them" attitude, thinking the world is out to get you for liking Obsidian.
In fact Obsidian is the gaming darling right now, and has always been /v/'s darling.
Obsidian isnt in the situation they like putting their characters. They are in a classic vanilla prince charming situation.
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Where can I get the game on sale?
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>>333200398
Don't ever fucking reply to me again unless you are going to contribute to the thread.
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>>333199768
I don't think you've ever been to codex. They suck Obsidian dick hardcore. Even alpha protocol and NWN2 OC are in their top 70 RPGs of all time.
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>>333200398
what are you doing in these threads anyway? it's not like you're posting something fresh or valuable
you're just saying the same things over and over again
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>>333200927
>Even alpha protocol

is that one not good? I was planning to play it sometime
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>>333201023
It sure as hell isn't one of the top 70 RPGs of all time
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>>333201023
Obsidian got fucked by publishers and had to push out a buggy, barely tested game that doesn't really work, news at 11.
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>>333201023
Gameplay is badly balanced.
RPG's side (talking and the reactions) are worth to manage the gameplay's side.
It's not hard once you got ther right skills
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>>333201129
>Obsidian got fucked by publishers and had to push out a buggy, barely tested game that doesn't really work

doesn't really answer the question
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>>333197584
>edgy edgy edgy
ok, anti-edgy brigade for life
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>>333191284
Kek
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>>333193023
Literally every single thing on this entire list is wrong (at least on PS4)
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>>333200502
>I like Obsidian games
let's me guess, the stick of truth and alpha protocol are your favourite
>I dislike Obsidian drones
you're the drone, just not the obsidian one
>Saying Original Sin sucked because it was too colorful or too silly is retarded
having a different perspective than yours is retarded? you're the real retard here
>I prefer it like that
I don't, who do you think you are?
>This is all I claimed. Everything else is you strawmanning or misunderstanding.
I would belive you but i've read your post in earlier threads and i know how much of a one dimensional spiteful dick you're
>The "us against them" attitude, thinking the world is out to get you for liking Obsidian.
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>>333202024
>having a different perspective than yours is retarded?
When your perspective is literally "HURR DURR NOT MUH GRIMDARK!" yes, yes it is fucking retarded and will always be retarded.
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>>333202024
>i've read your post in earlier threads
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>grimdark is edgy hurrrrr
go watch some mlp then you enormous faggot
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>>333191867
It has like 130k on PS4. Which is pretty good since it released so much later.

I mean shit like GTAV and MGSV sold like 6% of its total sales on PC.
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>when obs, beth,bio or any other rpg dev makes shit writing
it's terrible, it's bad, it's boring, it's unreadable
>when based funny Swen makes shit writing
it's lighthearted :^)
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>>333202225
>When your perspective is literally "HURR DURR NOT MUH RAINBOWANDUNICORNS!" yes, yes it is fucking retarded and will always be retarded.
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>>333202409
>>333202024
So much this
Got tired drom this retards too
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>>333201668
thank you for beta testing for us
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>>333202024
Full on grimdark games a shit. Both Planescape Torment and Fallout had comic relief and humor spaced in between to lighten up the mood.
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>insta kill mines
>forced shitty murder mystery
>you can just steal paintings and become op from the items you buy
>all in the first 5 minutes of the game

Great mechanics but shit first 5 minutes.
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>>333203878
>Full on grimdark games a shit
why
>Both Planescape Torment and Fallout had comic relief and humor spaced in between to lighten up the mood.
just like divinity right?
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>>333204113

>you can just steal paintings and become op from the items you buy

I'll be damned if I ever found anything truly useful to buy. Apart from skill books there's nothing worthwhile to buy from any vendor, even the purple gear is crap.
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>>333199768
>who knows really
It's the cycle. Old folk hype up Obsidian as god, create unrealistic expectations, expectation are shattered when newfriends meet reality, newfriends turn on Obsidrones.

Compare with Shadowrun. An objectively mediocre game with serious flaws that gets much less hate because nobody hyped it up to the stars beforehand.
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>>333201794
Have you played it solo or in Co-Op?
I'm pretty sure you're dismissing Hold command, object selection, L1\R1 buttons, everpresent cursor mode, status effects, ease of use, etc
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>>333204330
>Apart from skill books there's nothing worthwhile to buy from any vendor
Sextants, elemental essences, sinew, cloth/leather/metal/plate scraps, potion ingredients, potions themselves, spell scrolls, gear while leveling up, food...
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>>333202687
I see no contradiction.
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>>333204898

And you become OP by buying those in what way?
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>>333205020
Have you even tried to use the game's crafting system?
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>>333202687
there is a difference between straight up shit that farts higher than its asshole (Inquisition, PoE) and just straight up lighthearted serviceable writing that doesn't take itself seriously.
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>>333205220

In the first 5 minutes with all the 1 points you can realistically assign to crafting?
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>>333201129
Even PoE was like that, PoE literally showed that their failures are to blame only on themselves.
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>>333204643
>Compare with Shadowrun. An objectively mediocre game with serious flaws that gets much less hate because nobody hyped it up to the stars beforehand.
In that case larian folks have no expectations at all because they never talk about obvious many failings that larian games have and some of the most zealous lemmings are even twisting facts about objectively bad things
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>>333201129
It has like one serious bug, of the likes I never encountered in 4 playthroughs

Have you ever seen a bug/exploit list for an actual buggy game? You could fill a small novel for the Baldur's Gate series
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>>333205009
HAHA SO FUNNEHnot really
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>>333205440
It was obvious from the start. When every publisher is "unfair" to you, maybe it's not the publisher.
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>>333205662
I've been saying it for like a decade but everyone on this board shat on me, game after game, publisher after publisher, buggy unfinished shit after buggy unfinished shit
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>>333205787
what's so buggy about the stick of truth tho
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>>333205662
>>333205787
protip: leave obsidian alone, stop giving a shit
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>>333205787
You didn't choose the meme life, the meme life chose you
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>>333205220

The game's crafting system is complete shit. So much hassle
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>>333186427
that dragon spear expansion is an official thing?
i thought it was just another fan mod!
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>>333206303
it's called straightforward and fun
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>>333205380
When you say first 5 minutes do you actual mean that? Otherwise my second playthrough I ended up having +3 crafting and +2 smithing by the time I went to fight Boreas purely from gear.
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>>333206303
Then don't craft. I personally enjoy the subtle hints given through books and just common sense crafting a whole lot. Plus some item tooltips give some hints too.
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>>333206434
It's for the Enhanved Edition only. Apparently it's more like ToB and somewhat linear but I heard the encounters were good and challenging. Hard to find any opinions about it that aren't related to trannies.
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>>333206695

Well the original argument was that in the first 5 minutes of the game you can steal all the paintings in Cyseal and buy yourself everything to "op" status. Which you cannot do, however you may spin it. Hell there's not even that many paintings to steal to reliable buy the small stock of crafting crap available.
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>>333206970
Also I'm pretty sure they changed a lot of the gear sold in Cyseal in the EE. I found myself rarely buying much other than spells or materials because I had already obtained better gear than the vendors from playing the game.
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>>333206857
Encounters are mediocre ToB styled and the writing is overall dogshit, that's what I got from RPGCodex
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>>333186427
Hilarious that of all these old fucks coming back proclaiming they're going to revive the CRPG genre, it was the little studio on the edge of bankruptcy that ended up showing them all how its done.

Probably because they actually went for something unique instead of replicating exactly the old formulas which had their own problems that weren't weeded out.

Still feels good. A true Cinderella story. I remember Swen (the head of Larian, whatever his name is) talking in interviews before the game released that he hopes it sells enough to pay off some of their debts. He sounded pretty down.

Then the game released, got insane word of mouth, and sold like bonkers. The interviews afterwards were such a joy to read. Went from "Well I hope it sells enough..." to "WOOOOO YEAH MOTHERFUCKER WE'RE THROWING A PARTY BACK AT THE STUDIO THANK YOU FANS".

Maybe there is still hope left in vidya.
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>>333207536
I read that they were challenging and the AI and encounters are actually affected by difficulty from the codex. I did read that they reuse a lot of enemies though. I haven't read the thread in a while because discussion has shifted entirely onto the tranny and the writer who made that stupid comment.
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>>333207757
Not sure about the first part of your post. But I am glad that this game was a success, and that 2 is in the works with cool systems in addition to the original.

>Combining spells to make new ones
>More races LIZARD PEOPLE
>Dialogue revamped, hopefully will turn out better
>More focus on individual characters, sometimes one player's objectives will oppose anothers, leading to co-op shenanigans
>Game master mode

Consider me hyped. The devs seem to actually want to make improvements to an already satisfying combat system, and more.
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>>333208212
Yeah I admit I sound a bit harsh. I liked PoE, though I thought Shadowrun, Shadowrun: Dragonfall, and Wasteland 2 were disappointments. Wasteland 2 less so after it got its Enhanced Edition, but its release was pretty all over the place.

So hyped for Divinity OS 2. If the Enhanced Edition of the first game is anything to go by, they've learned a shit ton over the past couple of years and are going to churn out a kick ass game.

Also, lizard people fuck yeah.
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>>333207757
>Probably because they actually went for something unique
what's so unique about dumbed down rpg with simple turn based combat and nintendo tier humor? what's so unique about kiddynity original shit in general? it's not unique at all
torment was unique, fallout was unique, arcanum was unique
but not this fucking simplistic garbage!
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>>333208212
>no good games where you can be a skeleton or a lizard man for YEARS
>in DivOS 2 you can make a skeleton AND a lizard man
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>>333207757
they did so well they needed to kickstart a sequel.

Big games sell more, games like DOS cost less to make.
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>>333208639
>you can play as a skeleton
Holy fuck my dream game
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>>333208873
DivOS2 is already mostly self funded. The Kickstarter was just for extra content.
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>>333208873
>they did so well they needed to kickstart a sequel.
They said they were going to create the game either way no? I thought the point of the kickstarter was so they could have the budget to add in all the new systems that were talked about earlier, and not just the same game with a different story.
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Can I change my character name in this game?
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>>333209175
Yes. You're never referred to by your name in voiced dialogue.
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>>333209267
I mean after I rolled my character
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>>333209351
Maybe with a save editor if there is one
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>>333208597
>unique
If every rpg is mature for mature gamers such as yourself
Then a lighthearted rpg is unique.
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>Combining spells
>skellingotn and lizard people

Is that real???
I played the original D:OS and it was pretty good. My only complaints would be some minor bugs and that they didn't include dual wield, making any melee/mage hybrid pretty useless unless playing sword+shield, but they fixed that in the enhanced edition anyways.

If what you say is true, it sounds promising.
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>>333208949
I want to play as a skellington.
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>>333209703
There's already a couple examples of combining spells.

>rain spell
>oil spell/bleed spell
>raining oil/blood

>ground is on fire
>curse spell on fire
>necro fire that can't be doused by water, need some utility spells to cleanse it

And yeah, lizards and skeleton races are already confirmed on the kickstarter.
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>>333210039
In addition

>With skill crafting, you can mix a “silence" spell with a “summon spider” spell to make a “summon stealth spider” spell.
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>>333209607
roughposting aside, there are plenty of lighthearted rpg's released before (bard's tale, dozens of jrpg's)
dos may be a good game for some but it's not unique at all
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I remember uninstalling it after the first fight. Combat system was so fucking awkward.
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Everyone who hates this game played it alone or they / they're friends were shit at it.

I mean, the dual dialog is fun. Not playing with that considerably lessens the experience.
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>>333210649
everything is fun with a friend
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>>333209703
>>skellingotn and lizard people
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>>333210449
It's not that bad, but 2 battles after you're used to it you'll get bored with it
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Do I have to buy the enhanced edition if I already I already bought the original from steam.
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>>333211436
No you should get it for free.
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>>333210946
>this retarded argument
You can have fun with your friends despite what you play, but you can't have fun with every game with your friends. Some games are bad. Others get better when you don't play singleplayer, because they are designed for multiplayer, like Divinity.
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>>333187973
The game is not actually hard, you just have to learn how to use the elements (water, oil, fire etc) around you to your favor.
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tfw want to play this but no friends to enjoy it with
;_;
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>>333191284
This is triggering
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>>333211902
>but you can't have fun with every game with your friends
yes you can
>because they are designed for multiplayer, like Divinity.
divinity is not even a real crpg
good co op party game for console dudebros like you and nothing else
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>>333186427
We did, but people have given /v/ as a whole the reputation of being full cynical assholes who don't play video games or like to have fun. So it's not unusual for someone to not listen sometimes.
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>>333211040
They better make actual lizard women and not pull that shit from Dragon Commander.
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>>333211386
It felt like there were trying to Copy HoMM3's combat which was fucking godlike in its simplicity.

DoS was not intuitive in any way.
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>>333212367
>yes you can
Having fun with a game as in enjoying the game because it's good? No, you can't. Saying "every game is fun with friends" is the same as saying "every game is good with friends" and if you think that's the case you haven't played many games at all.

>divinity is not even a real crpg
lol
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>>333212552
Is this real? Do you unironically believe this?
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>>333212609
but divinity is not good, it's just fun
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>>333212552
what part of the combat do you find unintuitive?
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>>333208212
>More focus on individual characters, sometimes one player's objectives will oppose anothers, leading to co-op shenanigans
This sounds fucking radical.
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>>333213039
Maybe if you had friends to play with you'd think otherwise. Or you could just have shit taste.
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>>333213790
>Maybe if you had friends to play with you'd think otherwise
see, everything is fun with friends
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>>333200927
They should be, they're both very good.
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>>333213935
You'd think it's good then, since you'd be playing the full version of the game.
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>>333213985
>NWN2
>good
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>>333214087
Cherry picking one random ass dialog won't magically turn the whole game into garbage anon, that's not how it works.
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>>333214345
The OC is definitely garbage though.
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>>333194967
Well that just looks like an impossible choice between BG2, D2 and Ultima.
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>>333214087
seems very lighthearted aka good, your point?
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>>333214403
Nope, sorry anon.
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>>333213985
NWN2 is boring and overrated.
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>>333214596
everything is
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>>333214587
Yes it is.
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>>333207536
I would take that opinion with a mountain of salt because the beginning of the game had hard encounters on high difficulty and RPGCodex is old /v/ x10 levels of mad about everything.

The writing was fine for the first hour or so I played. I haven't been playing it because of, funnily enough, original sin, and thats mainly because I just do not like D&D.
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>>333214596
That's a pretty irrelevant comment
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>>333215049
I made an irrelevant comment in your mom's pussy last night, mate.
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>>333215257
same
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>>333215306
That's what she said.
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>>333192423
>max out traps
>max out command
>run around with 5 nigh-invulnerable scorpions killing everything that gets anywhere near you before you can blink
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>>333192213
>steamspy
Found your problem, anon.
The other anon was talking about CONSOLES.
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>>333216808
PS3 has no game?
Xboxhueg?
I can't keep up with all these new consoles coming constantly.
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