No dark elves, no buy
nobody cares about your irrelevant edgelord factions
Next game. Which is probably going to be 2017 because all the framework is done, and elves won't be that hard to add. Skaven are going to be the fucking best in this shit though.
>>333152609
>dark elves
Go jerk off you horny retard
>>333152609
Dwarves must be the most boring race in any setting. Actually they're exactly the same in every game.
Fuck CA and fuck Warscape
I'll buy their games again when they learn how to release them in a playable state and stop bloating them with shitty DLC
>Shitmar
Pass. Enjoy your dumbed-down, casualized trash and shit lore.
I really hope they add the Tomb Kings. That'd be sweet. Even better if they just copy paste the New World expansion from Medieval 2 and have everyone fucking around in Lustria. Also allows for a playable skaven clan, Clan Pestilins
>>333152791
It's not Age of Shitstains. It's going to be well before the End Times.
As long as there is chaos or highelves im down.
>>333152908
>chaos
sure if you preorder
>high elves
lol nope
>>333152609
Have I got a deal for you...with just one additional payment $4.99 you can unlock the Total: Warhammer Dark Elves Faction DLC.
>>333152908
That's an additional $12.99 goy
>>333152752
>implying TW:W isnt perfect for DLC
>>333152964
>blood textures DLC pack $3.00
>>333152609
where da amazoness at?
>>333152609
>Giant Spiders
No buy
>>333152908
Chaos is preorder only. CA strikes again. [Spoiler]and like the good goy I am I preordered [/spoiler]
Daily reminder there is absolutely nothing wrong with CAs DLC policy
Day 1 DLC and generally poor DLC excluded
>>333153040
Don't you like spiders? Don't worry, they like you
>>333153038
Probably the second expansion, in2020
>>333152739
>play bloodbowl
>literally football with murder and mutations
>dwarves still manage to suck all the fun out of it
>>333152793
>another undead faction
>when we don't even have lizardmen, skaven or elves
>>333152752
>fuck Warscape
With the improvements made in Attila the latest version of warscape is superior to the older engines in every way.
>>333153448
To be honest its likely they will do TK just because they already have skeletons done which makes sense.
>>333152908
Chaos is pre-order
High Elves are likely in another game, this is a planned trilogy.
>>333153490
Of course it's comparatively superior, the other engine is like ten years old. It's still a piece of shit engine that should have been abandoned years ago but never will be because CA are lazy and incompetent fucks.
>>333153386
>not playing can opener chaos
>not murdering every dwarf team you come across
>>333153386
How?
>>333152739
LotR dorfs are neat
>>333153597
>It's still a piece of shit engine
On what basis? They release a new iteration of it with every game and it's improved dramatically.
>>333153625
When they get the ball, they just turtle up and inch their way across the field. Dwarves have good defense values and skills but are among the lowest mobility teams.
It's a legit tactic but holy fuck is it boring to play against them.
>>333153045
At least preordering isn't as completely an exploitative racket now that Steam refunds exist.
Of course just because the first hill on Mr. Bones' Wild Ride isn't as scary anymore doesn't mean you're getting off anytime soon.
>>333152739
Their Grudge system seems pretty cool desu.
So what are Dwarves like in the tabletop game? Same as in bloodbowl or is their lack of mobility a giant hindrance?
I wanted to like it, but
>four factions
>CHAOS is a preorder bonus
>DLC is going to be out the ass
>>333154082
If you have a problem with the number of playerable faction you have no idea how much depth there is to them.
>>333154134
You could not sound like more of a shill. Do you currently have a playable copy of the game or are you just parroting marketing?
>>333154192
>I dont like the fact you are using logic! Im going to call you a shill!
There is more diversity in those five factions than most other TW games combined. You're ignorance isnt other peoples problem.
>>333154284
>There is more diversity in those five factions than most other TW games combined
Nice, where did you get your preview copy? Because you seem to know an awful lot about a game that isn't out yet
>>333154070
Sturdy as fuck and wont run with some of the best ranged/artillery in the game.
So, basically brick up in front of their artillery and pepper the enemy as they approach until they hit a solid wall of beards.
>>333154192
>In the case of Warhammer, we want it all. All the races. All the units . All the magic. As authentically as we can possibly make it. With the best possible TW gameplay in there too.
>When we were first planning the project, it was immediately obvious that this was a bit of a problem. All that lot was going to cost four times as much to build as the contents of the treasury. We were going to need more resources. Lots more resources.
>To get that investment from SEGA (who are always supportive in backing us), we demonstrate that we can release a great game that results in a lot of happy players. But in order to do that with Warhammer content, it has to be split up into reasonable pieces in order to do all of it at a reasonable resource cost.
>The only way we can have all the races, all the units, all the magic, all authentic and super high quality is by building it up in multiple products; and for each of them we have to give a plausible prediction of how many people will be happy to buy it, so we can justify the cost of making it.
https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/164869/total-war-warhammer-dev-blog-chaos-warriors-pre-orders-and-dlc
This whole post is actually pretty interesting.
>>333154284
I'm not the one making a claim while shirking the burden of proof.
Have you yourself played the game and able to attest to this depth each faction has or are you instead basing this opinion off of videos released by CA's marketing team and their approved youtubers?
>>333154354
I have eyes anon, and an active internet connection that allows me to view youtube
Do you just browse /v/ all the time and are too stupid to browse other websites or something? We know literally everything about the game and there is literally no doubt that there is more depth in TWW than other TW games.
>>333154383
>approved youtubers?
They've given it out to a massive number of absolute nobodies, dont try to spin that bullshit.
>>333153736
But caging is a must if you don't play elves and rely on their bullshit dodge chances.
>>333154452
Out of curiosity anon, have you preordered the game?
>>333154452
>I have eyes anon, and an active internet connection that allows me to view youtube
Ah, so you can view Sega-approved gameplay videos?
>>333154472
>But caging is a must if you don't play elves
I never had to rely solely on caging when I played both necromantic and skaven.
>>333154357
Any word on ideas for following expansion?
>Triple Elf Expansion
>Rats & Reptiles
>Kings & Counts
>>333154357
I'm down for that if it means quality.
>>333154357
I don't mind them steadily forming a larger map with more factions over several games, Dawn of War style. I'm just curious as to what order it's all going to come in. I can more or less guess which factions will get paired up.
>Bretonnia mini pack
>Wood elf & Beastmen
>Skaven & Lizardmen
>High elves & Dark elves
Tomb kings get cucked and never become a playable faction.
>>333152609
>giving CA money
they are by far the laziest developer out there. all their games are stripped of features, and they call it streamlining.
at least when you pirate their games you will not feel guilty about it.
>>333154574
Well skaven can run like hell, also they are weak so caging is pretty useless. I mainly play orcs so caging is my life
>>333154553
Pre ordering is for suckers
That being said I probably will, just so I can refund it if its shit, but if its not get the Chaos stuff.
>>333154571
>Ah, so you can view Sega-approved gameplay videos?
You want a tinfoil hat with that bullshit? There are a shitton of videos from absolute nobodies playing different versions of the game and they all look good.
And not that you would know but CA isnt doing what they did last time with Rome 2 where they lock down all their information, people have been allowed to run the game and show anything they want
Shit if you have at twitch with a few thousand viewers you could go get a copy of it right now
>>333154575
I think the last expansion was kind of confirmed to be a Chaos Expansion. I think I remember hearing that Chaos Warriors were going to be in that expansion but they "didn't want to make people wait so long for them" and supposedly hired a small team to work on the day1 dlc faction in tandem with the development of the base game.
I think it was somewhere in >>333154357 that guy's forum blog.
>>333154617
I might be wrong but from my understanding they are splitting it up into three fully priced games.
>>333154695
>from absolute nobodies
I wonder why they were given a preview copy, it sure can't be because they are on sega's payroll
>>333154692
>Well skaven can run like hell
No kidding.
It's almost like there are multiple teams other than elves that don't rely on caging tactics.
And when I played Chaos I also rarely bothered with caging - I actually focused on getting KO's and injuries to achieve board dominance. I had a friend who played Dark Elves who did the same thing.
>>333154575
>>333154617
The main factions will be in two more standalone expansions, like DoW.
The other factions will be DLC like we get for Shogun 2/Rome 2/Attila.
Although no word on which factions go where, when or what level of content they get.
Gonna be one hell of an expensive game.
>>333154818
>I wonder why they were given a preview copy, it sure can't be because they are on sega's payroll
I really hope you are just joking and dont actually believe that.
>>333154818
Mute the commentary if you think their conspiratorial lies will poison your enlightened reasoning, and just watch the gameplay footage.
>>333152609
this looks like the gayest tryhard shit ever
>>333153695
Not that guy, but how about the fact that it somehow manages to make the games look like ass if you arent playing on ultra? and if you play on ultra you are going to get like >30fps on any decently sized battle.
Can someone that plays the tabletop or knows about the lore tell me how faithful the units look? Because when High Elves come out I want to use some of these motherfuckers.
>>333154832
Kinda sucks to be outbashed by elves. Also you play the ball with chaos?
>>333154357
>Also to say, Chaos Warriors aren’t the same as Chaos Daemons; we are treating them as separate, just like the tabletop army books. Later on in the trilogy, you will be exposed to the full horrors of the Realm of Chaos.
They really are going for all the factions huh
>>333154846
What qualifies as main vs. other? Potential for cool differentiated gimmicks?
>>333153736
I see, thanks anon.
>>333152793
Who are Tomb Kings? Are they a unit in the Vampire counts army? Like a family of skeleton vampires? They sound boring they should remove them from the table top
>>333152739
it's DWARFS nigga
literally Dwarfs with incredible technology so I can set up my defensive line of guns and artillery and conduct their fire as hordes of greenskins fall upon me
>>333155039
>Also you play the ball with chaos?
Did you mean to quote someone else?
>>333155019
They're all on par with the minatures so yeah they're pretty faithful
>>333155039
Nah. Skaven have access to claw+piling on and blodgers all over the fucking place. They can bash like motherfuckers. It's the taking bashes where they kind of struggle.
>>333155149
>Who are Tomb Kings?
These guys pretty much.
>>333152739
I like their artillery
i just want a new DoW 3 with base building
>>333155149
Assuming you're not just feigning ignorance, they're basically an egyptian mummy/skeltal army.
>>333155161
I like their iron beards.
>still no game with the campaign map of a paradox game and the battles from the total war series
>>333155082
Who knows, they will likely have two teams, one working on the standalone expansions and one working on smaller DLC
We already know that Bretonnia is likely the first smaller DLC coming out, we've seen some of their units already.
They have to do; High Elves, Wood Elves, Lizardmen, Skavern, Goblins, Dark Elves, Deamons of Chaos, Beastment. Which also happens to be a perfect 4 and 4 split for future standalone expansions.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CJT2uC4.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>333155149
>>333155280
There are already enough wh40k games coming out.
>>333155280
Get Battlefleet Gothic, anon.
It's fucking golden.
>>333155386
>>333155082
Oh and Tomb Kings and (maybe) Ogre Kingdoms.
Chaos Warriors trailer if you haven't see it already: http://store.steampowered.com/app/404010/
>>333154605
Well each faction in this has more unique work done to them than anything they have previously been able to accomplish, and it shows. The amount of skeleton models is very different since everything isn't just humans.
No lizardmen, no buy
>>333155330
I merely jest. R.I.P in Peace Tomb Kings you were fun to play against
>>333155243
Other way round familia. Matt ward got his grubby paws on Necrons and made them awful.
>>333155465
>that shield clipping through some head
>all that hair
>>333155508
Did Sigmar give them the axe or something?
Actually, I haven't been on /tg/ since around when AoS first released. What's the attitude toward it now that the dust etc.?
>>333154575
>>333154617
It was said two major expansions are on the way, so more like:
>Bretonnia dlc
>Old World expansion - Beastmen, Wood Elves, Skaven, Tomb Kings
>New World expansion - High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizardmen, Daemons
>Ogres dlc
>[spoler]Chaos dorfs dlc[/spoiler]
>>333155620
>blunder of the century
>>333155620
If object clipping is a major issue for you, then Total War is not the franchise you're looking for.
>>333155625
It's a flop
>>333155625
Sigmar dropped most of the armies
>>333155672
Friendly reminder that CA will never make a chaos dwarfs dlc
>>333155726
Couldn't they just take a different screenshot without some clipping issues?
>333152752
>333152752
>333153597
Why would TCA give a shit about nerds who don't buy the games and just cry with every iteration? Nobody cares, fuck off.
I am still amazed by the number of retards who will buy this, and even more by those who defend it like rabid fanboys.
>>333155894
I am still amazing shitposters like post in these threads like anyone cares what you think
>>333155805
>chaos dwarves
my fucking sides, manlets are desperate
>>333155894
sorry that people want to play X game
>>333155949
Nothing to be sorry about, can't help fanboys being fanboys and eating shit up as long as it has their brand on it.
>>333155894
have you seen what gw allows to be released?
ga, dow and spaec marin being the exeption
i say the tw will be just ok
>>333155620
It really doesn't matter. All these promo shots and shit don't portray how you actually play the game aka zoomed out as much as you can so you can survey your surroundings. That's why shit like unit lip-sync and cinematic camera are such pointless addition. Shit, 3D portraits are pointless and just a requirements drain.
>>333155805
chaos dwarves are already in the game
They handle the cannons of the chaos factions.
>>333152739
fag
>>333155620
reply now
>>333155894
I'm amazed by the number of retards who care how much I enjoy myself for an extended period of time, and even more by how much they think I care about their shitty opinions.
>>333156014
What are your misgivings about this title, ardent defender of anti-hype?
>>333155852
>I want my in game screenshots to be bullshots that does not represent the game
>>333152739
Eat shit, faggit
>>333155805
I honestly think a lot of people are deceiving themselves into thinking ALL factions will make it into the game.
>>333156082
Is that a fucking joke.
Who comes up with this stupid bullshit?
>>333156151
Dwarfs. He probably thinks the Hobbit was a good movie because of this scene.
>>333156082
The fuck am I even looking at here?
>>333156065
it's not even clipping that annoys so much as their shitty animation team. and then they actually SHOW OFF said animations. I mean, it's obviously all work in progress, but goddamn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdjqQ7TIIJI
>>333155161
Dwarves refers to the fictional race. Dwarfs means more than one dwarfs (like an actual animal or person.)
>>333156082
Is that extended cut or something? I don't remember that.
>>333156082
What the hell
>>333156082
Why the fuck wouldn't the elves keep firing arrows?
>>333156126
>>333156065
The issue is that someone thought it was a good idea to release this pic instead of one in which the clipping wasn't so apparent.
>>333156082
I didn't like the whole hobbit trilogy but thats pretty dope, if somewhat ridiculous.
>>333155625
Oh boy it's a wild ride
Release Sigmar with Sigmarines > Push that it is different and cheap free rules etc > Release some 'ok' lore books > Scrap Square bases > rename every army pretty much > Axe Tomb Kings and add some units into Vampire Counts > Remove Slanesshi replace with horned rat > Units cost no points > Rules and really random and weird > Bretonnia is soon to be axed and mixed with Empire/Sigmarines
Basically it's fucked and to top it off they sell off Warhammer Fantasy license to CA not realising the interest in the table top will pick up just like Dawn of War did.
>>333156243
Looks pretty cool to me desu
>>333156338
>Basically it's fucked and to top it off they sell off Warhammer Fantasy license to CA not realising the interest in the table top will pick up just like Dawn of War did.
As GWS has said many times, there is no correlation between vidya and miniature sales
A release in one has no impact on the other
>>333156338
>Units cost no points
>>333156338
Speaking of which will Bretonnia be first DLC?
>you will never be awarded a fatted pig and two copper crowns, more wealth than a peasant could have hoped to see in a lifetime, for inventing a trebuchet
>>333156428
Which is true because minis are expensive as fuck and people who are already invested in the hobby are buying new shit. Getting someone into the hobby in this day and age is basically impossible.
>>333156265
no, Dwarfs is the name of the Warhammer Dwarves, and it's also the spelling that Tolkien later said he would have been correct in using anyway
>>333156428
GWS also said losing millions means sales are good and changing plastics then putting the price up is a sound strategy.....
>>333156441
No you are not dreaming check the website they rely on "Good sportsmanship"
>>333156616
70% of GWS consumers dont even play the tabletop, which explains so fucking much about why GWS dont give a fuck and do such mad and random changes all the time.
They dont even consider themselves a game company.
>We have a simple strategy at Games Workshop. We make the best fantasy miniatures in the world and sell them globally at a profit and we intend to do this forever.
>Simple, but every part of this statement is important.
>We make things. We are a manufacturer.
>>333156712
There is a difference between being stupid and following facts, the fact is that no vidya 40k or warhammer has ever increased miniature sales. And why would they, its two entirely different hobbies that appeal to entirely different types of people.
>>333156616
It's not impossible, it's just impossible to do with video games. It might pique people's interest, but it's not going to get people to invest in an expensive, only tangentially related hobby if they don't know anyone who is already into it.
>>333156243
I don't see problems with this.
>>333156616
>dat feel when still no Fantasy or 40k RPG
Why? Both lines have roleplaying games. In fact, each received multiple editions. In almost humorous turn of events WFRP 3E is also overpriced and will cost you $100.
>>333156783
As much as people get angry at them, they're right.
I mean fuck, I have heard people legit say "I'm just playing KoW with my GW minis now"
Like seriously, do you think GW care what rules you use?
Wait, so this game has no elves? GOTY
man, reading the GWS finacial reports is interesting as fuck
http://investor.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2015-16-Press-Statement.pdf
>In the period, royalties receivable from licensing increased from £0.7million to £1.5million.
Looks like all this 40k/warhammer vidya spam is paying off slowly
>>333157010
It's also dogshit,
>>333157095
What? You mean you don't like proprietary dice, cards and interpreting results? Yeah, me neither.
>>333156540
They are in the game, but as an AI faction. I don't think they are super fleshed out either as a result
>>333157010
Fantasy Flight make some nice looking board games and tabletop sets, I'll give them that much.
>>333152609
it will likely be pretty mediocre, especially on release, so waiting until the edge elves are will not mean that you miss out on much. I have a strong suspicion that I'll just end up playing a campaign or two in this and going back to attila, especially if any of the big mods drop
>>333157261
I'm just gonna wait till they've released most of the DLC and patched the game
Should have done the same for Attila
>>333157010
Dark Heresy is much better in my opinion.
>>333157157
>You mean you don't like proprietary dice
Nothing wrong with game specific dice, mate.
>>333157363
I'm just pissed off about the fact they don't seem to be making GOTY versions anymore. I'm STILL waiting for complete Rome 2 and Emperor Edition ain't it.
>>333157385
Only War is their absolute best line.
Rogue Trader and Heretic level Black Crusade are next down the list.
>>333157439
There sure is. It's making me buy new shit I won't really be using for anything else. Although, I guess that explains why it costs 100 bucks.
>>333157458
Rome 2 is still shit anyway and there's little reason to play it instead of Attila
>>333156783
Hey I ain't looking to get into a shit flinging contest over GW. I don't hate them the miniatures are fantastic and I enjoy painting them I just don't think the way they go about things is a sound strategy but eh I don't run a multimillion company.
>>333157439
There is fucking everything wrong with game specific dice
>>333156145
Chaos Dwarfs do have official models though, so out of all the minor factions, they have a chance.
Kislev is fucked however.
>>333157512
>It's making me buy new shit I won't really be using for anything else
I suppose.
I play FFG's X-wing game and that uses their own dice. I still have a shit load of fun.
>>333152609
Fuck your dark elves. I got Dwarfs and Greenskins and that's all I need.
>>333155787
They have dropped 2 completely (Tomb Kings and Bretonnia).
The others had most of their older models cut, but they still remain, having just been reorganised into new factions. Some are stupid, some are neat and sort of make sense.
>>333152739
Dwarves suck, short Scotsman who wield axes or hammers
Unoriginal as fuck, wish they'd just stay the fuck out of muh fantasy games
>>333157745
Sounds amazing to me
>>333157552
Just use normal dice then.
Lot of pointy-eared faggots ITT.
>>333157745
You forgot about TECHNOLOGY
>>333157705
Is bretonnia officially squatted?
I'm sad, though not surprised.
>>333157502
>Only War is their absolute best line.
>>333157745
I usually think the same, but Warhammer dwarfs are pretty cool and got some nice artillery.
In every other setting they can get fucked though. Always the same.
Its usually very clear to me what faction i want to play in fantasy games, but in TW:W i'm completely lost. All the factions appeals to me. Help!
>>333157894
Yes. Last week a lot of the fantasy catalogue went onto the last chance to buy section of the website. Most of it was metal and old plastic models, however the entire Bretonnia range was put up, and has now sold out.
Tomb Kings were put up a few months ago, and now all that is left to see what will be cut are the Forces of Destruction (Ogres and Orcs), which should be in the next few weeks according to the rumours. Since Orcs already have a new box set, we can safely say the models in that box set arent being cut, but what Ogres will survive is anyones guess.
>>333158045
t. CA
>>333156687
well tolkien can suck a couple of dicks.
>>333158045
Well, what did you prefer to play in Attilla?
If you liked the Huns, play the Orcs.
If you liked the Eastern Roman Empire, play the Empire.
If you liked the Western Roman Empire, play Vampires.
If you liked the Germanic Tribes, play the Dwarfs.
If you liked the on-disk DLC, play Chaos.
>>333158045Im the sameI kinda want to do Chaos the most, because those fucking chariots look glorious and the new charge animations are fantastic
>>333158325
>If you liked the Eastern Roman Empire, play the Empire.
>If you liked the Western Roman Empire, play Vampires.
What's the logic in this?
>>333158383
The Empire is a bastion of civilization beset by threats from all directions.
The Vampires are a decayed kingdom that is a twisted shadow of itself, sitting on the edge of the darkness.
The vampire one was a bit of a stretch, I'll admit.
Just fuckin play warhammer online again. The private server for it is mostly functional and has dark elves.
It's also still the best MMO and was a decade ahead of WoW as far as a ton of features go.
>>333158780
>It's also still the best MMO and was a decade ahead of WoW as far as a ton of features go.
I love how far nostalgia fags will fall
>>333158780
>the private server is mostly functional
Wow! Where can I sign up?
>orkz marching in formation
how is this not rustling everybody?
>>333158839
Loads of shit from WAR was implemented into WoW expansions after WAR was released.
If they ever add bodyblocking and defensive targetting WoW will just be a WAR clone without good PvP.
>>333152691
Dis nigga gets it. Skaven are truly the best Warhammer race.
>>333158956
WAR was an unplayable, unbalanced mess at release and it is an unplayable unbalanced mess today. It died for a reason, it was utter shit.
>>333158941
ageofreckoning
>>333158950
Cause dey ain't orkz, stoopid, dey's orcs!
Does it at least have Lizardmen?
Did they fix the Cav charges and momentum and shit?
>>333159106
Lizardmen have into space
>>333159107
Hell yes they did, you can even charge cav through units and strike units behind them now
>>333159106
no only generic races
>>333152609
>>333152941
Dark Elves and High Elves are not even in the same fucking continent where the game is taking place you faggot.
You guys might get Wood Elves though. They are in the area where the Bretonnians and Empire are located.
>>333159106
Lizards are on a different continent m8 gotta wait for standalone expansions
>>333157745
In regards to dwarves and orcs, GW did a pretty good job at least trying to be original. Big green mushroom men, that wear garbage and get bigger the more they fight instead of the LOTR or D&D kind. Dwarves are a bunch of angry, hyper serious, impotent midgets with advanced technology and a huge fucking book filled with every time anyone ever called a dwarf anywhere a fag instead of regular jolly drunken warrior Scotsmen.
>>333153625
They rely mostly on block, a skill that negates the effect of a both-down block die, with high armor value and low mobility. This makes them tanky bastards who can hold a line/cage well but who get bogged down easy. They also have a lot of Tackle, which makes dodging through their tackle zones a lot harder.
>>333159370
They are going to increase the map size twat
>>333159418
I don't even think we're going to get Lizardmen even in the other expansions because they literally have no purpose of being in the regions of where most of the expansions are going to take place. They aren't expansionist, they are isolationist fags who are simply waiting for a prophecy to happen and when the end times come. They also occupy the region of south america of the Warhammer world which is WAAAY too far away from the rest of civilization.
The only time you'll ever see them is when another retarded faction decides to step into their territories.
>>333159556
The map size twat was perfectly fine as it was. What are they thinking?
>>333159616
Money says they'll find a way to make it happen, even if it means stomping on lore to get there.
>giving a shit about Warhammer after Age of Shitmar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MzNpMD1K8
>>333158950
Grimgore Ironhide actually taught his army how to fight in formation. Part of his lore is that he is weirdly disciplined for an Orc.
He still flies off on a rampage the first chance he gets, and does silly stuff like single handedly invading the Skavens home city, only leaving because he got bored, but his troops don't squabble amongst themselves.
>>333159628
>>333159616
If you actually paid attention to the thread
>The only way we can have all the races, all the units, all the magic, all authentic and super high quality is by building it up in multiple products; and for each of them we have to give a plausible prediction of how many people will be happy to buy it, so we can justify the cost of making it.
CA is going for all the factions, and they have already stated elsewhere that expanding the map would obviously occur for that.
Out of ALL the things to do expanding the map is the easiest.
>>333159768
It's pre end times, anon.
>>333152609
>no fucking elf at all
that game is very promising
>>333154617
>>Bretonnia mini pack
bretonnia is really different from the empire they cant just reskin empire units
can they ??
>>333157439
Game specific dice are acceptable so long as they are both cheap and mechanic that they are meant to resolve is sound. FFG WHFRP3E and Star Wars dice are overpriced (at least in my country) and their mechanical resolution system is fucking SHIT. It is shit, broken, and doesn't fucking work. I have played 3 sessions of WHFRP3E and 5 of Edge of the Empire, shit don't work, we only tried to interpret roll results in the first sessions of each game, after that it may as well have not existed.
Many of the possible roll results (10/18 for EOE) require a severe amount of mental gymnastics to describe/imagine. The Alexandrian did a really good in depth overview of the FFG Super Fun Dice Pool System and why it doesn't work at all, but I'm going to summarize with one word: Spastic.
It is possible roll to sneak into a building (success), do so quickly and without leaving a trace of your presence (advantage), while at the same time you have knocked over a row of bookcases and smashed several vases (despair).
Instead of roleplaying heroes in gritty early modern fantasy and cool science fantasy settings you roleplay members of the Police Squad! dressed like an Imperial Inquisitor and Luke Skywalker. Which is a great concept for a beer and pretzels game if the rulebook wasn't so thick, abhorrently expensive, requires extra sets of dice, and progression is somewhat reliant on card booster packs.
>>333160130
Bretonnia has less units than other factions anyway, it wont be finished by release but it will be done afterwards it looks like
>>333159828
If you were paying attention to the thread, you'd know that they're spacing this out across three feature releases, so even if they end up featuring all the factions eventually (and I suspect they will, except for the cuckos dwarfs and other errata), it's not guaranteed, and I would argue downright unlikely, that there will ever be a worldwide campaign map. I really doubt we're getting any elves but wood in this release and there's no way in hell we're getting Lizardmen.
>>333160265
>If you were paying attention to the thread, you'd know that they're spacing this out across three feature releases, so even if they end up featuring all the factions eventually (and I suspect they will, except for the cuckos dwarfs and other errata), it's not guaranteed
>They are doing X
>but X wont happen
Just stop.
>>333160320
I didn't contradict myself. You're not even paying attention.
>>333156082
>peter jackson will get away with it
>>333160405
Yeah you did, you just dont want to admit it.
CA is going to release all the factions, Lizardmen are one of the factions, Lizardmen will get released.
Get over it.
>>333160478
I never argued Lizardmen aren't getting released. I said they're not getting released in this game, which isn't a contradictory statement, because this game is the first in a trilogy.
You know, you would think GW will be more centered on promoting Age of Shitmar... but all they are doing is throwing out Old World and End Times content from Mordheim, Vermintide and Total War Warhammer.
They knew they made a big ass fucking mistake and are now trying to fool newbie faggots into buying Age of Sigmar crap. Cause you can no longer get Old World units in their shop.
>>333159768
>Ground Marines
Make this canon, please.
>>333160591
>I never argued Lizardmen aren't getting released. I said they're not getting released in this game, which isn't a contradictory statement, because this game is the first in a trilogy.
>trying to move the goalposts THIS HARD to save face
Holy shit my fucking sides
Just end yourself idiot
>>333152609
gas the elves racewar now
>>333160602
Pretty much all of the new fantasy games were licensed and revealed before AoS come out, and GWs internal communication is infamously terrible.
It is funny though, that a bunch of models I ordered come with a leaflet advertising the Total War game.
>>333160591
Are you really so retarded you assumed everyone was just talking about the the first release? And not all the future plans? Holy shit anon get some reading comprehension.
>>333159768
You know how this is not AoS?
The old world still exists and is not like the W40K bullshit that fantasy turned into where you have pocketed realities instead of a global map (planets), Chaos are still Chaos and are not a shitty faction filled with cultists, and Sigmar Marines.
>>333160884
No u. I can't even keep up with you two and your fucking idiocy.
>>333161293
Probably because you're the idiot here trying to save face after making idiotic baseless claims.
Go away, shoo.
>>333160854
Yeah.. because they didn't plan Age of Sigmar before the production of these games.
Because they proposed to drop a huge business decision to destroy the world and lore of their game in the span of only one or two years instead of planning this shit out years before.
Come on anon..
>>333161352
What claims would those be? Please tell me the claim and link to the post where I claimed them.
>>333161409
>wants to be spoonfeed his owns posts
So you're so stupid you cant even remember what you wrote? Outstanding. At this point im sure you are just replying out of shame so no more replies for you.
You were wrong, get over it.
>>333161409
How about you read your own posts and come to your own conclusion on how idiotic you are. Then fuck off. Or fuck off and dont come to that conclusion, no one actually cares about your stupid ass.
>>333161491
You don't even know who you're arguing with, do you? Who's trying to save face here?
Too late. No more posts for you either.
>Bretonnian
>Oppresses peasants
>Worships an elf
>Goes questing because an elf told them to
>Gets tricked into drinking elf piss because the holy grail doesn't exist
>Send their daughter away to become a servant of Morgana Le Fay because an Elf told them to
>Sends their magic-touched sons away to have who knows what happens to them because an Elf told them to
>Acts as a buffer state for the wood elves
>Only have peasants use ranged weapons because they have a skewed, elf crafted, honour system
Just like France, Bretonnia truly is the worst nation in its region.
>>333161368
As I said, GWs internal communication is basically non-existent. It wouldn't be a surprise if the people in charge of licensing legitimately didn't know they was scrapping Warhammer fantasy.
It is one of the 3 problems the creator of Warhammer fantasy had in an interview a few months ago. There was no internal communication, the creative team stopped being put in charge of new content, and was forced to do what the sales team wanted, and GW outright refuses to do any market research what-so-ever.
>>333161646
exept france used crossbow while bows were england speciality
>>333161646
>Sends their magic-touched sons away to have who knows what happens to them because an Elf told them to
Did we ever find out what happened to them with the end times/age of shitmar stuff? I know it was finally confirmed who the lady was, so I was hoping this was revealed as well?
>>333161760
France was renown for its knights like Bretonnia
>>333161646
Its pretty hard to stack up to the Empire.
>>333161646
>Gets tricked into drinking elf piss because the holy grail doesn't exist
The grail does actually exist, and in the lore, the Questing knights that actually got to drink from it were basically superhuman. The lady wasn't just an Elf, she was an Elf GOD. She could still do shit.
They were still played like fools though.
>>333161841
bretonnia is a mix of france and england kingdoms
athur's legacy and shit you know what i mean rite ??
>>333161760
Except Bretonnians had crossbow men as their main archery units anon instead of Archers and Bowmen.
Bretonnia is France through and through even in incompetence.
>>333162054
>2.50 for 5
Nowdays it would be $15 for 2
>>333161794
No, unfortunately. I mean, there's an army of Bretonnian magic men somewhere, unless she just killed them all.
>>333161997
>Gilles le Breton
Anon, pls, they are literally France, and the Empire is basically England.
>>333162054
>that lack of respect for honnor
are you a teethless brit ?
>>333162054
>2.50 euros for 5 units of crossbow
The days when GW weren't greedy ass fucking kikes.
>>333162273
The Empire is the HRE/Germany. England is Albion, the shit hole island off the coast of Norscar that no-one cares about.
>>333162273
>Empire is basically England
it's obviously HRE look at their cities name
>>333160265
Doesn't need to be worldwide though
Lizardmen are in Africa and are at constant war with Tomb Kings that are trying to retake old territory that the jungle expanded over, pirate Vampires who raid the coast, and uppity High Elves that claimed parts of the jungle as their territory
Lustria doesnt need to be fully in (parts will be in north america with the dark elves) because the Southlands will.
>>333162378
>look at their cities name
A lot of them seem more Germanic.
>>333162350
>>333162378
Ah your right, more like Germany.
>>333162457
yes thats what i meant
>>333162381
>lizardmen being attacked by dickheads trying to take their land
>they still bother to save the fucking planet and everyone on it from chaos moon meteors
Are Lizardmen the heroes we deserve?
>>333162645
No, nobody deserves the glorious Lizard Saviours, but they do it regardless.
>>333162381
>Land of Chill
>Nippon
>>333162381
>demons are in the south pole as well as the north
Why don't invasions ever come from there, then?
>>333162829
Lack of Land Bridge, Chaos corrupted humans, and the fact that no armies in south america or africa can be chaos corrupted . So there are invasions they just don't make it past the jungles thanks to the factions in the area being one giant middle finger to chaos
>>333162381
I still suspect that the way they intend to do this is to have different campaign theaters for each game. They could just 'zoom out' each release, but I don't see how they can retain cohesiveness while laterally expanding the scope. If they do, my mind would be blown, but it raises the question of why they decided to start out so downscaled. I'm a sucker for realistic goals, but I guess I can't completely project that onto the dev team.
>>333162645
>>333162716
what is their alignement btw ? do they eat man flesh ?
>>333162273
Gilles le Breton is Arthur though. Just that after death istead of going to Avalon he became The Green Knight and inend timeshe returned in his country's great need.
>>333162645
They're basically an entire race of autists, so yes.
>>333162825
In the end times I think orks or skaven ruined all of Nippon. Was funny. Skaven got a mad kill count in End Times. Shame this game won't be set during them since they started making it well before End Time was even thought up. They'll probably use old lore. So no return of Nagash or Skaven blowing up the moon.
>>333163170
Their moral/ethical system is completely alien, but from a human's perspective, they're probably chaotic-neutral leaning true-neutral.
>>333152609
They could have done so much more with Chaos man.....
Like start off as a tribe of Norscans and decide to eventually lead your people into the path of Chaos by turning submitting your Warchief into a Chaos champion of the ruinous powers, trekking into the trials of Chaos by doing shit in the overworld map, and eventually deciding whether to follow a particular Chaos god or become undivided. Or you can choose the other route where you can just remain a Norse tribe still under the religion of Chaos and become raiders.
Just straight out Chaos is so fucking boring.
>>333163170
They come under Forces of Order, but don't really have allies as such. They were made to fight against Chaos and to help build stuff for the Old ones.
Generally they would leave you alone if you weren't Chaos and weren't doing anything to upset them.
>>333163446
They are going for named faction leaders, so starting as some nobody doesn't fit.
