when did the magic leave video games /v/?
how did we get here to today?
The fan base expanded to include philistines.
Big money
When it gets into things it just kills them.
>>333081973
>when did the magic leave video games /v/?
When consoles took over
>how did we get here to today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROJKEwYEx8Q
>>333081973
we grew up
>>333081973
Ask someone young if you want to know the true answer.
>>333081973
had a lot of fun playing quakelive the other day with people of my (low) skill level.
The magic is still there if you just play what's fitting for your mood.
>>333082218
Young people don't know shit, why parents bother to even consider their kids opinions is beyond me
twitch/youtube/letsplay culture
>>333082398
And now think again about how video games still had that magic when you were younger.
>>333082207
/thread
You know how you felt about Morrowind, Dues Ex, Ocarina of Time?
Well that is how kids and teenagers feel about the new Assassin's Creed, Minecraft & Uncharted now.
>>333082583
These things are abominations. How did we let twitch and lets play become actual things?
>>333082682
You keep acting like "we" have any influence to stop things from happening.
>>333081973
Why don't you retards stop playing video games and do something else then? You are clearly not enjoying what is supposed to be enjoyed. Fuck off, video games are not for you.
>>333082682
you tell me, this is the board where these things make up half the threads at any given time
>>333082618
bullshit
nobody could feel those things about AssCreed
>>333083135
kid's aren't exactly the most discriminating in their tastes
>>333082132
bullshit
piracy is the reason, same with music and film
>>333081973
when we stopped having noticeable upgrades in system hardware and arcades still existed.
im old enough to have gone from the 8 bit to whatever bit would be today. its the change that forced devs to use systems to make good games.
that i feel is where we lost the magic. also, most devs and companies i loved just went insane in the last 8 or so years.
would you have EVER thought to have seen as bad an FF game as 13? or see megaman games just not come out anymore?
if i told myself this back in 1995, i would have thought future me was insane.
>>333083135
But Assasins Creed series is better than TES.
>>333081973
TORtanic - every big budget game since then has to be torn apart and considered a blunder by /v/. If you enjoy a brand new big budget game you are automatically a shill.
>>333081973
after supreme commander 2 turned out a mediocre game
>>333081973
TW3 proved that there still is magic in video games.
>>333083272
Is this bait?
Because media piracy has been around since cassettes
Can you pirate a record like you would copy a key?
Would the sound quality be trash if you did?
>>333083235
no, but it depends on the kid, most of which are dumb as shit.
see, you get them on strict regimen of classic games and they too will hate today's AAA titles.
>>333083395
It did? With its bamham combat?
>>333083395
Fuck off it didn't.
>>333082809
>/v/ created Anita
>/v/ created Gamergate
>/v/ created Undertale
>implying we have no power
>>333083135
funny how /v/ shits on AC but loves COD unironically. it has feels too, just not on the same level as some classic older games.
>>333083515
>>333083538
literally nys you fucking pessimistic pieces of shit
you're /b/-tier raid faggots, hoping every game will fail. There's a reason you guys are undoubtedly depressed and haven't left your rooms in weeks.
>>333083570
Don't forget about Launchpad. We had plenty of power. The vidya world was our tacit oyster.
>>333081973
When developers realized they don't have to innovate or even make a quality product at release, also I heavily blame gaming critics.
>>333083570
The only thing /v/ created are shitposts. Anything else is just consequence to the shitposts.
>>333083682
Whoa I triggered a Witcher shill.
>>333082618
not really, most kids don't even really game that much these days.
the avarage age of a pokemon player is around 40
>>333081973
>>333082132
This, more money involved, more jews involved, industry turns to shit.
>>333082180
Consoles have been in charge since video games inception
Dipshit
>>333082132
This pretty much, there are still some games left, but most games we see are the ones that are advertised with their pretty graphics, nice animations and fancy trailers.
Unfortunately they usually have basic gameplay and no concept of level design (because bigger is always better of course).
It was around 2007-2008 same applies for movies. I like to put some blame on COD4. But it can't be the whole reason.
>>333083991
I don't even know what young kids do nowadays, when I was young I just sat and played my gamecube all day.
>>333084015
I understand your point but I think you are wrong on this.. Just look at the industry now.
>>333084214
I think that's more a symptom, it wasn't a bad game overall, it's what happened after it.
>>333084145
You must be 18 years or older to post here.
You explained everything in the pic, OP. When /v/ started playing AAA stuff and caring about goty awards.
>>333084347
there are good and bad games coming out every year, same as it ever was
you just don't remember all the shit games of your childhood but there were plenty
>>333084545
the difference is bad games ended up in the bargain bin. now they end up in the best sellers list because of shilling, and praised as progressive amazing games of the year.
>>333084478
>actually thinking computer gaming was bigger in the 80s than the NES
Fuck off and go find your fedora
Video games haven't become less enjoyable, it is you who has changed. You either have no time to play video games or you are either too depressed to enjoy video games. These things happen when you grow up.
Video games are just as enjoyable as they were 10 years ago, even more.
>>333084637
what year were you born?
Jesus christ. This site still has a shit ton of impact on the whole industry. If mods started pruning consolewar threads and banning pcucks, xbots, sonyggers and nintendrones we could do everything we want.
We created half of the gaming memes, Anita, Undertale and stuff like that.
/v/ died when it was split into /v/ and /vg/.Remember row row the powah?
I was there in the early 2000s when people were trashing games from the '90s and ANYTHING rendered in 3D with polygons, claiming only truly good games were made with sprites, period. Back then these people called the PS2 a pile of shit and considered the Super NES to be the last video gaming console with quality content. FPS games of then like Quake and Halo got called garbage as much as Far Cry and Call of Duty do now. People were lamenting the death of the 2D platformer and adventure games, badmouthing the emerging styles of game design for being inferior formats driving "true" video games out. Some actually defended cartridges and blamed optical media for making then-modern game design "sins" possible. PC gaming was blamed for the standardization of incomplete-on-release products requiring patches. FFVI was the last good Final Fantasy. World was the last good Super Mario game. A Link to the Past was the last good Zelda game.
It never changes. Ever.
>>333084907
What if I told you mods are allowing this to happen? What if I told you the mods are drowning you in shit posts?
>>333084918Majora's Mask was good
My first memory of /v/ is some post about the upcoming release of FFXII. Shit, those were good times.
>>333085134
Then there's no hope for /v/, it will never be the place we want it to be.
>>333084695
For europoors it was.
>>333084907
>This site still has a shit ton of impact on the whole industry
>implying it ever had or has any impact on anything ever
I want this meme to end
>>333085332
It always had an impact on everything.
Or, to be precise, the industry suffered consequences of our shitposting.
>>333085558
Which is much different and generally worse than any constructive input developers put into the industry in the last 10 years
>>333085713
we got a dinosaur into battlefield.
>>333085713
>any constructive input developers put into the industry in the last 10 years
You mean
>too videogamey
>interactive experience
>cinematic experience
etc?
Yeah, they made games shit.
And we made people laugh at Todd and showed Bethesda, that horse armor is a bad idea.
>>333085812i'm just 20 and acting in a contrarian manner
On a serious note i agree this board had always a huge impact on gaming memes and overall culture and i'm just curious to what it will decade into, considering it's a process that's been going on since its creation as old fags and such see it.
>>333086178
Something we can't even fathom!
>>333084918
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
what?
dude, you were NOT there in that time period.
i was, i remember that shit.
fucking quake was not called "hot garbage"
fucking 3D games were always looked to what could be done better since the PS1 days
your a fucking idiot.
>>333086049
>showed bethesda that horse armor is a bad idea
>It paved the way to dlc and wallet raping economic models adopted by the industry as a whole
Literally what
>>333085330
indeed it was
>>333086178
not until recently
4chan used to be avoided because it was thought to be fucking mos eisley from starwars
only until fucking 2007-08 or so did "we" ever begin to affect ANYTHING and i know because i've been here since 2004
>>333086606
Isn't it still like mos eisley :p
>>333081973
>when did the magic leave video games /v/?
approx 2005 with the fading of the PS2 era
Japanese games went down the shitter and now we have indie shit and dull collectathon open worlds
>>333086918
What's funny is those who grew up on 7th will say the same shit.
>>333086918
Nah. 2007-2010 were the golden age od /v/. Everything went to shit after 2012.
>>333087152
And the rise of sjws?
>>333086675
maybe if it was no longer a hive of scum and villainy.
oh wait, thats reddit now, isn't it? but just scum and retards, they couldn't do 1% of the shit we used to.
>>333086918
>his first console was ps2
>>333084145
Regardless of who owned a bigger share of the market, PC always had the most innovative, expansive, and community driven releases. Despite being homes to some great games, consoles have held everyone back.
>>333081973
2006
>>333087226
SJWs were the direct result of the movie Scott Pilgrim.
>>333083272
If you really are an artist, you should be willing to work for free if need be. Being paid highly for doing what you love is luxury. Incidentally, luxury is very closely historically related to decadence. Lawbreaking is the result of decadence, if anything.
t. stonesculptor
>>333087582
Never saw it, was it shit?
>>333087335
The problem is people are too damn sensitive with "triggering" and all that baloney.
>>333087010
>>333087152
My opinion is that gaming lost its soul when Japan gave up.
Whatever the reason is - lack of Jap love for online, the pressure of developing for HD hardware, decline of arcades, I'm not sure.
Also, we're ironically hamstrung by how powerful the hardware is now. We thought we wanted photorealism in games but we've ended up with Far Cry, Asscreed, Fallout, which are basically the same Unfog Map games.
I think games like MGS2 are better where technological constraint forces a tighter focus.
>>333088118
One big thing games are lacking today are difficulty modes, like playing AC or fallout without any guides or maps, now that would be a true exploration challenge.
In the 90s and early 00s devs could still do what they wanted to do and they really wanted to create those games everyone loves.
Too bad they were successful. Because of that more and more money got put into them and with money comes pressure. Pressure for even bigger success and more sales. And usually that means bigger audience.
And how do you get that audience? By streamlining everything to make sure that it gets atleast a certain number of people interested.
This is how creativity died and now games are all about meeting investor goals.
>>333087434
My first "console" was the Atari ST
There's a difference between early 1990s to mid 2000s and then what came afterwards
>>333088331
Really it's between entertainment machines, and game consoles. That's why I like the Wii U it's really no frills and no installation bullshit.
>>333081973
Excuse me, but Dark Souls III comes out in 9 days. FFXV and No Man's Sky look pretty fuckin' magical and Valkyria Chronicles Remastered comes out soon and that game is magical af.
>>333088601
>remastered
You're a huge problem.
>>333081973
You grow up faggot
>>333083503
>see, you get them on strict regimen of classic games and they too will hate today's AAA titles.
They will think those classic games are gay.
>>333082180
>>when did the magic leave video games /v/?
>When consoles took over
Jesus Christ, what a retard.
>>333088601
>Game from annual series that has been spoiled for everyone by incompetent publisher that gave it to every faggot having youtube channel with 3+ subscribtions
I want to believe tho
>another FF dissapointment in making
>game about landing on planets, naming shit, flying between planets. Rinse and repeat.
Just as fun as Spore, unless I don't know something about this game.
VC was great but it's just remaster.
Damn anon, future looks dark...
>play the most recent TES game
>its trash
>play the most recent CoD
>its trash
>play some hipster indie retro gem that gets hyped on every blog/news site
>its trash
>''Sorry Young Man - Guess you are too old for videogames now - You grew up!''
>play Dungeon Keeper for the first time in my life
>have a blast with it
Yeah. It's not about getting old. Those modern AAA and indieshits are simply pure overhyped garbage that only gets good ratings to sell.
>>333089230
I think critics are the real reason why games are bad.
>>333081973
Magic doesn't exist you faggot.
>>333082618
And Ocarina of Time is a steaming pile of shit.
>>333089434
don't cut yourself on all those edges anon.
>>333089487
>>333089379
They are part of the system but the not the cause.
Look at IGN for example.
>At release the entire site was blasted in ads for Mass Effect 3
>10/10 best epic adventure action ever
Now would they have gotten those ads and money with a fair review?
The videogame industry is like every other entertainment industry. It got big and now its all about sales. And publishers will do everything to get them. And of course ''journalists'' are not saying no to that opportunity.
>this game is good!
>better than everything else!
>trust us!
>everyone plays it!
>you need to get it as well!
This is the entire thing holding the industry together. It's sad.
>>333089434
>Magic doesn't exist you faggot.
IMPLYING
>>333089965
Take this shit to /x/ guys.
>>333090120Not that I go to /x/. But don't tell me they believe in magic?
>>333090432
Of course they do. It's /x/.
>>333086374
>your a fucking idiot.
>>333083570
All I remember is Katawa Shoujo.
>>333081973
because you're older
>>333091048
Just because you're old doesn't mean you're jaded.
>>333088812
No, I'm 19 and was brought up that way, and I hate modern AAA games
>>333091209
nah, not about that, but when you are a kid, you are impressed more easily
>>333091429
True, like half the games i bought as a kid were trash.
>>333083570
Everyone created Anita
Adam Baldwin created GG
I don't know about Undertale. But it's shit. So whatever.
The only worthwhile thing /v/'s done is Launchpad and defeating Reddit in Tribes.
>>333091553
Sjws created undermeme.
>>333086374
Yeah, you were reading those print magazines like Gamefaninformerpro hyping up all the new futuristic Windows MMX technology and proto-AAA titles.
I was browsing the Internet reading angry forum posts on 4chan precursors like Something Awful and Usenet.
>>333081973
It became a huge industry. This means huge amounts of marketing. Which means hype. Which inevitably leads to disappointment. Video games are art. And like all art, movies, music etc. most people listen to the marketing. That and our own laziness means we rarely look deep enough to find art that suits our tastes. And just go with the flow.
>>333091705
and /v/ created sjws
>>333081973
After MGSV release
I realize we've become cynical about the industry, and life in general.
But I still think there are games with heart out there, even if you have to make a little effort to find them. The online and indie market places have brought me to games that I never would have found in the past.
>>333083272
retard
>>333084918
Do you remember the brief time before Baldur's Gate when WRPGs were considered a dead genre?
>>333083272
>>333084090
>>333084194
This capitalism is le evil
feel the bern!
>>333081973
If you don't fap for a few days it gets more enjoyable. Same is with vidya
>>333095076
Do you have an actual substantial point or are you simply being a pol memer?
>>333087689
The comic is better
>>333083272
>le music died in the 90s XDD
hola reddito
>>333095297
t. mu hipster
The magic died when I grew up.so says the preacher man.
>>333095161
1983 was caused by Atari being massive fucking jews.
Nintendo was disgustingly monopolistic during the height of their power.
It has always been about money, games didn't have "soul" or whatever manchild buzzword you fags use back then.
>>333095968
t. 13 year old youtuber born in le wrong generation
>>333095968
t. underage born in le wronk genratiomn
>>333082180
nah, up until the ps2 generation consoles were great.
>>333086178
>decade
You mean decay?
It's already decayed. Nobody likes to think about it, but 80% + of /v/ is on other sites like reddit as well these days. 4chan is mainstream whether you like it or not, and being mainstream brings much more shitposting and less creativity. If you wanted to see a good /v/ you could have gone on (4x2)chan in the early days, you could have non-shitposting threads right through January 2015. That was because of the userbase being small and generally interested in discussing videogames.
Everyone remembers that old /v/ and /b/ were hostile places with pizza etc getting posted all the time. People that weren't there talk about it being the wild west or some such. It wasn't. Mods controlled the board even in 07 or whenever you think oldfaggotry starts. The whole point of being offputting and having insualr memes/codes of behavior ("lurk moar") was everyone who stayed actually cared about what they posted about. Newfags weren't people who couldn't triforce or use memes right or whatever, newfag was really a term for people whose attitude will never lead to OC or productive threads. Current /v/ is shit because it is mainstream, and mainstream means lots of people who don't really care about the subject and are happy to shitpost all day. Everyone forgets that calling you a faggot and posting brilliant OC have never been contradictory.
Don't even get me started on how half the lulzy stuff started on SA.
>>333088118
>My opinion is that gaming lost its soul when Japan gave up.
there was actually a good discussion about this here a little while back
it basically happened with the advent of the 360/ps3, but why/how?
>>333082618
Nonsense. All the kids I know switch from game to game. They don't really get invested in them. Maybe Minecraft, that's about it.
