>actual PvE content and bosses are great
>game balance is fucked right straight to shit
>less build variety than Bloodborne even though it has almost literally ten times the number of weapons and spells
>>333059571
At least it has a shit tons of weapons, right?
LMAO
>>333059827
So did DaS2, and it was still shit.
>>333059571
>not out yet
Just wait and see how From balances it.
Last 2 games there were weapons and spells which was never used that were buffed.
>>333059827
Seriously. Ten times the weapons of Bloodborne, quite possibly fewer actual move sets, and actually less build variety.
Jesus fuck. Dark Souls should've ended with 1.
>Giving shit about PvP
I feel bad for you senpai
>>333059994
>only US/European release dates count
Every weapon works for PvE, dumbo.
Fuck off with your "PvP balance".
The game is PvE-focused.
>>333060031
Almost every weapon in BB feels different and is worth using though.
DS3 blown the fuck out.
I dunno about all this but it'll be way better than Dark Souls 2 and strike weapons being way more viable than everything else
>>333060119
What's that glowing stuff? Do you get it as you proceed in the story or does every armor set looks like it is on fire?
>>333060208
Reread my post, that's exactly what I mean.
Dark Souls 3 has significantly more weapons than Bloodborne, and somehow less actual weapon VARIETY than Bloodborne. It's baffling. It's DS2 all over again in the weapon department. At least boss weapons are cool sometimes, but often they're only unique in their weapon arts, not their actual movesets.
>the BB has no build variety maymay is finally coming to an end
>>333060313
Everything looks like that when you are Kindled. Heres a non kindled one
What if we add even more weapons guys ?
15 different shapes of swords, some spears maybe, and add useless shit too like whips
>>333060364
I realize that. I don't disagree with you.
>>333060439
What's being kindled? How do you lose that status? Dying?
>/v/ slowly starting to realise that DaS3 isn't all that good
The signs were there.
You were warned.
as much as i hate to admit it, the DLC will probably add more weapon variety like DaS2 dlc did
As long as every weapon is fine for pve, I don't care. No real Souls player PvP's.
>>333060604
Have you seen the reception? Most people love it and rank it up there with 1.
>>333060586
Yeah, its basically humanity.
>>333060489
Oh okay, we cool then
>>333060586
Being Kindled is basically going human. Gives you a 30% max HP buff and a cool fire effect, and lets you summon/be invaded.
>>333060818
So, I can't get invaded as hollow anymore like in DS2?
>>333060693
>Have you seen the reception? Most people love it and rank it up there with 1.
t. Guys who haven't played a Soulsborne game since DaS2
>>333060907
Correct. It's basically like DS1. Or maybe like Demon's Souls, because you have more HP when Kindled than Unkindled.
>>333060907
No idea about that one. I heard someone did but it might be bullshit
>>333059571
>game balance is fucked right straight to shit
This is a good thing. Makes the world feel more real
>actual PvE content and bosses are great
Except for NG+. Which somehow manages to be EASIER than original run. Still the first NG+ I am bothered to play trough since Demon's just because the game itself is so much better.
>game balance is fucked right straight to shit
Casters and hybrids are the only ones who got fucked and they have always been cancer. Weapon balance on the other hand is great. They are actually different (unlike bloodborne's copy paste shit) AND every single one of them is 100% viable throughout whole game.
>less build variety than Bloodborne
Bloodborne the the start was literally either str or dex and blood for memesters. In DaS3 you can still be all kinds of caster (although you are forced to commit to it now), build yourself around equip load etc.
OP is talking out of his ass.
>>333060604
The actual, single-player game part of it is very good. The balance and PvP are total dogshit, though.
>>333061102
>Bloodborne
>copy/paste weapons
Blew it.
>>333061147
Like every other game in this so called series.
>>333061102
>Except for NG+. Which somehow manages to be EASIER than original run.
NG+ was almost easier than the first run. What are you talking about.
This is the PvP from day 0.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhoj3OiA9s
You either try to 1-2 shot people with the Fume UGS, or you turtle in shield (which is back now, straight from DaS1) and poke away at rolls with your rapier/toothpick of choice and run away and do the same for about 15 minutes until you win.
PvP was a mistake. It will always be trash. DaS1 got close to being fun but there's always something that lingers on top of everything nice about the PvP in these games that just shits on everything.
And also, hornet ring is back. Why? Fuck you, that's why. Backstab fishing is still a thing and someone who REALLY wants that hornet ring backstab WILL get it eventually, and the garbage netcode only helps them with this.
Other things of note:
>Two-handing a big weapon no longer grants immunity to being parried, any faggot can parry you with his bare hand or tiny bitch shield
>Whips can't be parried for whatever reason
>Only specific battle arts can't be parried, the rest can
>Only heavy weapon strong attacks can't be parried for some dumbass reason
>Poise is just there to fill the menu with another stat, only hyper armor with some weapons actually grant poise (You can stunlock a guy in full Havel's with a rapier, a la DaS2, AGAIN)
>With that said, armor is useless again
>Swinging your longsword wildly is just as effective as being a tryhard PvP player
>Wrath of the Gods looks pretty cool
At least some covenants look nice. I'll try to keep it strictly pvE, with minor PvP interaction. I got too much shit on my plate already to be pissed off by garbage PvP shenanigans.
>>333061102
>Except for NG+. Which somehow manages to be EASIER than original run.
NG+ has always been easier in my opinion
>>333061102
>NG+ is easier
thats always been the case, NG+ didnt get more difficult till 3 or 4
>>333061318
>Two-handing a big weapon no longer grants immunity to being parried, any faggot can parry you with his bare hand or tiny bitch shield
Your R2s cant be parried
>>333061263
True enough, but I guess my reasoning is that the balance problems are affecting the good, single-player game worse than usual this time around.
>>333061102
>Bloodborne weapons
>copy and paste
Are you even trying?
>you can still be all kinds of caster
Not miracles. Every miracle that does damage is total shit. Lightning Spear-type miracles require you to be hugging the target to do more damage than a basic Soul Arrow, and good fucking luck getting your cast off.
Sorcery is strong at extremely high Intelligence (looks like 50-60 is the place to stop) but costs more FP than pyromancy and still isn't as good.
90% of the spells are useless. Sunlight Spear does 250 damage to a mob with a fully upgraded chime and 50 Faith. Soul Stream, the 60 INT requirement Sorcery does 400 damage. Meanwhile Fume Ultra Greatsword is doing 1000 damage per swing.
It is Bloodborne magic all over again. Miracles and Sorcery are 100x worse than Dark Souls 2.
AHAHAHA MAGE FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH.
>>333060127
Yes, because none of us have fucking played it yet.
>>333061267
It was "easier" because you already knew where to go and basic strategies against enemies.
Problem with DaS3 is that it does not scale far enough to pose any additional danger. I am 3/4 done with NG+ and I am STILL doing more damage and receiving less from enemies than I did back in my original run.
And I didn't even grind for shit. On the contrary, I didn't buy a single level during my last 10 hours of original waltrough.
>>333061318
Why does the healing stuff keep changing its look?
>>333061802
I thought magic was getting a day one patch?
>>333062036
Nope, where you heard that?
>>333061802
Pyromancy, on the other hand, is fucking great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE39mjmYW3E
Which is what leads me to believe that sorcery and miracles will be buffed at some point. From clearly didn't want magic to be useless, or they would've made pyromancy not the utter shitwrecker that it is.
>>333061802
>It is Bloodborne magic all over again
Uhh, Arcane builds ended up being incredibly strong. Everyone thought they were shit early on in the game until people started figuring out how to min/max properly. A 99 Arcane build is absolutely stupidly good.
>>333061838
>actually believing this
is your rock nice?
>>333062010
Oh and also NG++ and so on are NOT scaling the values any further. Everything is literally the same with NG+.
>>333062036
>>333062095
Day 1 international patch has not hit yet. 1.03 will be out soon.
>>333059571
actually too many of the bosses are a joke
but all soul bosses are
only 1 boss took me over 3 tries and it was because of stupid camera with a flying dragon
enjoyed the yaoi fight the best though
>>333059571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlun8odEMA
10/10 glitches
>>333062403
That's how it's been in every single souls game and exact reason why bows are for bitches unless you are committing.
Jap version here so I can't read shit
Is there a gimmick to the boss that looks like Old Hero from Demon's? I managed to get one riposte on his head but I do shit damage to him throughout the fight.
>>333062216
>that grab attack at about a 1:00
holy shit, my dick got hard
>>333062663
Use Storm Ruler
>>333062669
Sacred Flame, it's so fucking good. It's almost certainly a kill if you land it and have high INT/FAI.
>>333062216
This will get nerfed in under a week after the game releases.
>>333060021
This. It'll probably be balanced over time. For example, PCfriends never got to see Sorcery in Dark 1 before it was nerfed. It did about twice the amount of damage it does now when the game was first released on PS3/360.
>>333062282
If you are playing the english version of the game, apparently it is still in Press release patch because the game isnt officially released yet, which makes the game marginally easier
>giving a flying fuck about dark souls pvp
?
I don't really like all the "callbacks"/rehashing. Sure the Dark Souls 1 things make a bit more sense but all the 2 stuff, cmon. They could have just re-skinned the Fume UGS and my autism would have flared up less. Just seems lazy to me.
>>333062920
I remember 1-hitting the final boss with Homing Crystal Soulmass.
Those were the good old days.
>>333062874
Or will other magic be buffed to match? I'm not sure how you could draw a conclusion either way, given that there are melee weapons that kill just as quickly.
>>333062793
Ah yeah thanks forgot I even picked that up.
>>333062256
Fine. Have you played it yet? No? Then shut your fucking mouth.
>>333063151
Reminder that you need to fully charge it with L2 before using it.
What pisses me off about the miracles and magic situation is how cool the Sunlight Slam is. Never really liked using the Spear.
>>333062663
>not doing this questline so onionbro can fight his old friend
>>333063265
>game is region-free
>with English dialogue
>everything else is icons
Anyone who actually gives a fuck has played it already with little to no effort.
>>333062957
Nope, I got the jap one.
>>333063296
Yeah just took him down.
>>333062992
How much rehashed shit is there? I only ever see people use that stuff in webms, and that worries me that the game is starved for new content.
>>333063584
I did his quest after i already killed Yhorm. Found another Storm Ruler in the boss room.
Is flame weapon in Ds3? I saw a video with a guy fighting a boss with a long sword that had some sort of flame buff on it I think.
>>333062387
Wow, you're so good at video games, anon
Please fuck my sister, strengthen my inferior bloodline with your mighty MLG seed
>>333064212
not really gloating lel i didnt say i 1 shot all bosses
the bosses are easier than other souls games for sure
>>333064212
Yeah, this isn't an uncommon opinion. Even a couple previews by video games "journalists" say the bosses seem easier this time around, like the Eurogamer preview.
>>333060031
>dark souls should've ended with 1
finally people are starting to realise this
>>333064502
I remember hearing something about how the game was nerfed for previews and a day 1 patch will be upping the challenge. I don't know if that's unsubstantiated or not, though.
>Muh balance, Muh peeVpee
Who the fuck care?
>>333065112
I care when the crappy balance hurts replay value in PvE, really. Like, there's no reason to play through with an INT or a FAI character. Pyromancy is good but will probably be nerfed because From hats magic.
>i played the babby version of the game
>>333060439
>being unkindled still has your health bar be half the entire screen's length
Well damn, how big is that health bar when you're kindled?
>>333060698
What the fuck is that
>>333061102
>They are actually different (unlike bloodborne's copy paste shit)
BB is the first Souls game that has unique movesets for every single weapon. Kill yourself, PCuck.
>>333065685
At around 45 VIG its at this
>>333060439
Anon what's the name of that hat you have?
>>333066361
Crystal Sage hat thing
>>333066464
Cool. I've seen some people wear it but no one has posted it on the fextralife. I need it for my big hat Mage build I'm doing.
>>333066130
Do enemies deal a fuckhuge amount of damage to compensate for the big ass health bar and encourage one to be kindled or can the game easily be beat while unkindled?
>>333067306
The healthbar looks bigger than your health actually is.
>>333061802
They're not useless, you have to continually level the stat over 50 like Arcane in BB. You will pretty much always want over 70, meaning you will have to make actual sacrifices if you want to be some kind of meta level. It's completely working as intended
>It is Bloodborne magic all over again
You could one-shot people with 70+ arcane
>>333061102
>(unlike bloodborne's copy paste shit)
YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT MOTHERFUCKER!
You are either a pc cuck or have never played Bloodborne in which case you are clearly a pc cuck
>people acting as if bloodborne had variety in it's builds
Are those the fruits of PS4's 40 million units sold who never played previous games?
I know that you can go arcane and I know that some weapons do not abide the "quick 1 handed mode with the same fucking move set/slow 2h mode that substitutes free hand with damage and/or range" but come the fuck on.
Arcane is fucking useless until the endgame and there is no variety within arcane builds since it's linked to a single stat. The lack of equip load management does not constitute for the build diversity either.
Like, I get it. It's not ONLY about strength or dexterity builds and having more homogeneous weapons led to a way better balance but come the fuck on.
>>333060604
It might be MGSV all over again. You know, coming from MGS4 and MGS4 being put down by vocal never happy people for closing the story.
From Bloodborne to Dark Souls 3. I'm going to enjoy it either way.
Yesterday I saw a PS4 Japan copy of the game at a store and it was about 75US bucks. But then I saw Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 going for 60 bucks. I was torn and decided to wait it out.
Apparently game balance a shit right now >>333061318
>>333060604
All souls games are inherently flawed and have too many variables to not get a subjective treatment.
DaS seems to get the least amount of vocal hate but it's only because it was the first souls game for the majority of people.
Do you like hub worlds?
Do you prefer bonfires or shortcuts?
How difficult should the souls game be?
How convoluted should the lore be?
Was your favorite build fucked in this particular game?
I don't want to be a "to each his own" faggot but that's literally the case.
What the fuck, man
>>333071379
Nah, DaS2 is fucked beyond repair.
>>333061102
>bloodborne's copy paste shit
So you haven't played Bloodborne.
>>333071679
Scholar did repair a lot of shit though. The main game may be lacking but everything related to DLC was godlike.
I also appreciate the love From has poured into 2's NG+ especially now that I am dealing with this lazy fucking shit in 3.
>>333061802
Lol you must be a meme sword user.
Arcane build is the most devastating thing in Bloodborne. It's so hard to get there but once you actually complete your arcane build and get all the good hunter tools and arcane scaling weapons, you literally BTFO every boss in the game in less than a minute no matter which ng/chalice depth you're at.
>>333061102
>Bloodborne's copy paste
OP is talking out of his ass but that doesn't mean you should talk out of yours to.
>>333072701
>Hell yeah! It took me 2 games of eating shit but I finally made this build viable!
>What should I do now?
>Beat the game for the third time except on easy-mode!
>>333060021
This.
People are either newfags or have totally forgotten what dark souls 1 pvp originally was.
>>333060604
Oh look it's this guy again
>>333063704
>2016
>lying on the internet
>>333062216
lmao, that gold summon that dies the instant he spawns
>>333072267
I don't know man, gank squads, 6 mobs per room, bland corridors, bland brown corridors, bland blue corridors, long corridor with 10 guys, another long corridor with 10 guys, replaced enemies just because... I agree that dlc's were on the right track but it was like your splits were green, but they were still less than your last red split.
>>333074770
For real though, it's really easy to acquire and play if you have a PS4 or Xbone. I have just over 40 hours played and I think I'm closing in on the end.
Beat the jap version, feel free to ask me anything.
Is NG+ the same game, or are there a bunch of added stuff?
That was the best thing DaS2 did, in my opinion
>>333075986
Can you please fuck off?
>>333075985
xbox version is an unpatched easy mode
>>333076254
Sure, fuck you.
>>333059571
>game balance is fucked right straight to shit
>less build variety than Bloodborne even though it has almost literally ten times the number of weapons and spells
the fuck are you talking about
you haven't even played the game have you?
>>333059571
Should I use a controller when I'll be playing DaS3? Or should I go for the keyboard. I've never used the keyboard for DaS.
>>333076625
controller
>>333076295
Isn't that only if you get the unfinished English version through that loophole?
Fuming fag sword is my only issue with this game balance-wise. Shit is straight out better then every other strength weapon in the game both at minimum required str AND later on AND can be buffed.
What the fuck were they thinking?
>>333059571
>caring about PvP in a Souls game
>>333077261
Once you've beaten the PvE content what else is there to keep you playing? Running the same bosses over and over again?
>>333077345
>Once you've beaten the PvE content what else is there to keep you playing?
Other video games exist, anon
>>333077345
t. minigame cuck
>>333077614
>>333077684
But I like to get my money's worth out of a game before I move on to the next.
>>333077943
>forcing yourself to play shitty pvp after you've enjoyed the pve content because m-muh sheckels
wew
BB > DeS > DaS > DaS2
>>333077943
I just finished DS3 an hour ago and it took me around 40 hours. I guess that's how long it takes for an average player (I'm not very skilled in Souls games)
Isn't that enough for your money?
>>333077345
Different builds
No shield runs
Low level runs
New game+ since apparently they've changed up the enemy setups.
It's like any game where you can build different skillsets and focus on certain aspects. Naturally the game'll seem dull if you only play as a safe, sword-and-board character but if you play a high damage but less defensive build, it makes things more intense.
>>333078347
I don't know. For me the series is about finding secrets and seeing the world and how it is connected for the first time. Never had the urge to play ng+
>>333061049
>ridiculous difficulty curves are realistic
what the fuck are you talking about?
>>333064384
You became gud at the games, they didn't become easier.
>>333078336
What'd ya play it on anon?
>>333061318
>And also, hornet ring is back. Why? Fuck you, that's why. Backstab fishing is still a thing and someone who REALLY wants that hornet ring backstab WILL get it eventually, and the garbage netcode only helps them with this.
There's a ring to counter that idiot.
>>333065215
>Like, there's no reason to play through with an INT or a FAI character.
The scaling is bugged atm. For some spells, you do LESS damage by increasing your int or faith.
>>333076197
You can get the + version of rings in NG+. They're not like in DaS2 though. You find them in hidden locations as opposed to killing a boss to get them. I don't know about anything else though.
>all the buttmad sonyggers itt
>>333059571
Bloodborne's ARC was fucked up on release too, and now it's one of the best builds you can do. It's by far the smoothest release they've done, magicfags need to stop crying foul.
>>333079821
I care mostly about new enemy placements
