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DOOM Is Fucking Garbage
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Let's see here.

>weapons do shit for damage
>zero satisfaction when killing
>glory kills interrupt gameplay
>zero map design from the 2 maps we have so far
>no rocket jumping
double jumping slows your movement speed to a crawl
>cannot jump forwards, backwards or side to side on double jump
>SLOW AS FUCK MOVEMENT
>demons are retarded
>hack modules are basically mini perks (one of them even shows your enemies through the walls)
>inconsistent damage numbers on shotgun
>press F to win the game (the game is a melee fest)
>shotgun, shock rifle and snipe are the only weapons worth a damn
>HASTE pickup gives you AIM ASSIST massively it might as well be an aimbot
>mantle
>recharging grenades
>2 weapon limit
>60 FOV (probably have an FOV slider in retail but it should have been included in the BETA)
>absolutely zero soundtrack in-game for fuck sake an ambient soundtrack would have been sufficient
>gay announcer
>WEAPON LOADOUTS

This is bullshit. All they need to do to make this game great is amp up the movement speed by about 12%, remove the fucking retarded demon pickup, make weapon pickups vary on each map and balance the weapons overall. What a boring mess this shit is. I hope on retail for any of you who pre-ordered it or plan on buying get maps that are much more open. These 2 maps are so goddamn claustrophobic, especially with the 60 FOV. This game was designed around consoles.
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I am really enjoying the BETA, anon. I'm sorry to hear that it's not what you were expecting.
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So essentially you want Quake Live
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And this /v/ is what a millennium baby posts like

Need to be 18 to post here son
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Looks like a toned down arena shooter that I might actually like.
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>>333038112
This is so far from previous DOOM games in quality it's fucking embarrassing to even know this piece of shit has the same as the series.
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DOOM would still be fucking garbage if it was just pandering to people who want it to have no aiming and the player running at 4,000mph
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>2 weapon limit

I hope this is a multiplayer only feature.
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>>333038201
>>333038216
>>333038303

Wew, Bethesda shills out in full force this morning.

Either that are console shitters.

>>333038321
>toned down arena shooter

I have no words for you
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I liked Doom 3 and think old games are insanely overrated. They deserve credit for basically inventing the genre, but the incessant gushing over them is totally stupid. Many a better FPS came out since then.
Will I like 4 then? It seems to annoy the ultra turbo hardcore gaymur crowd, so I think there's a good chance of it being pretty good.
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>>333038396
No it wouldn't. With proper map design it makes all the difference. There is a reason old arena shooters are still alive with thousands of people playing them everyday.
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>>333038457
OP stop being a miserable piece of shit. The game looks bad but it doesn't excuse your pathetic shitposting
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>>333038112
Would you mind deleting this thread? Thank you.
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>>333038572
Thousands isn't enough for a game like DOOM to be successful.
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>>333038572

>old arena shooters are still alive

keep telling yourself that, kid.
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>>333038561
>ultra turbo hardcore gaymur crowd
casual trash

>>333038663
You missed my point, those are OLD games still holding thousands which is impressive. It would bring back people who are craving a shooter that is actually engaging, intense and takes skill.

Making an arena shooter slow is what will kill DOOM because all it does is make the game blend in with the rest of the slow shooter trash.
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>>333038778
>steam is where everything is played at
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>>333038867

it is

welcome to the only relevant games on PC, faggot
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>>333038112
>weapons do shit for damage
Yes.
>zero satisfaction when killing
No.
>glory kills interrupt gameplay
It's fun.
>zero map design from the 2 maps we have so far
Most arenas are pretty generic.
>no rocket jumping
Yes.
>double jumping slows your movement speed to a crawl
Yes.
>cannot jump forwards, backwards or side to side on double jump
Yes.
>SLOW AS FUCK MOVEMENT
Yes.
>demons are retarded
I like them but I can see how boring that feature will get.
>hack modules are basically mini perks (one of them even shows your enemies through the walls)
Ok.
>inconsistent damage numbers on shotgun
If it's a spray then that's normal.
>press F to win the game (the game is a melee fest)
Probably the largest problem right now.
>shotgun, shock rifle and snipe are the only weapons worth a damn
Yes.
>HASTE pickup gives you AIM ASSIST massively it might as well be an aimbot
Nothing wrong with that.
>mantle
Nothing wrong with this either.
>recharging grenades
More grenades does seem a little silly. I'd prefer not to have them at all.
>2 weapon limit
Forces you to adopt a particular playstyle instead of being the jack of all trades.
>60 FOV (probably have an FOV slider in retail but it should have been included in the BETA)
Never really bothers me.
>absolutely zero soundtrack in-game for fuck sake an ambient soundtrack would have been sufficient
For multiplayer? I'd probably disable it after a while but it's nice to have one.
>gay announcer
Yes.
>WEAPON LOADOUTS
Forces a particular playstyle once again.

Now if we went ahead and changed all of these we'd have Quake 3 / Unreal Tournament with a new coat of paint but Epic Games is already making it at the moment.
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>Barely played a Doom game before
>Rek everyone hard online cos they're all casuals
>Playing on Xbone
>I enjoy the game but agree that the movement speed should be increased

Deal. With. It
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>>333038885

>it is

How was gabe cock this morning, my poorly educated pal? tasty?
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>>333039025
How is he wrong exactly? League of Legends and MMOs are some of the few major games off steam but steam seems to be in control of pretty much everything else
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Why do faggots keep complaining there's no rocket jumping.

THIS ISN'T QUAKE YOU DUMB FUCKS

inb4thisisn'tDoomeitherhurrrdurr
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> Still no death scenes

all i'm looking forward too
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If you want an actual Arena Shooter with good graphics play Unreal Tournament 4. Doom MP is a joke and it's clear ID put all their efforts into Single Player.
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>>333039184

it is Doom, though

Whether or not a bunch of sweaty fedora-wearing neckbeard faggots think it isn't doesn't mean shit to the people who make the game
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I'm not sure why they didn't just buy the rights to HAZE if they wanted to make a shit Halo clone.

I mean, I actually know, because the only reason the game was made is because casuals have heard the name "DOOM" be used when referring to things they recognize, but still.
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>>333039234
Doom doesn't have rocket jumping
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>>333039184
Last time I checked Doom let me carry 8 fucking Weapons.

I died a little inside when I pressed 2 on the Keyboard and I didn't switch guns.
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>>333038981
>forces a playstyle
thats a bad thing
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>>333039234
>have to look down to rocket jump
>BBBBBBUT U COULD USE MOUSE AIM IN DOOOOOOOOOM
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>>333039520
Not really. If you had every weapon you'd be well adapted to every situation. The person ahead would just get further ahead
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>>333038112
why Halo has Doom written over it? nice photoshop guys when is the new Halo coming out
>XD ^^ xDDD
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>op posts an informative post that isnt a shill or pure shitpost.
>motherfuckers still acting butthurt.
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>>333039608
>the person ahead would get further ahead
that's because there skill is higher and yours will slowly progress over time. Becoming fluent in 1 playstyle is what is killing most shooters. People need to be able to do a little of everything and be given the opportunity to do so. Being able to do everything makes for a more intense battle as well as keeping the game fresh because with everything you can always be doing something different and be doing it well.
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>>333038112

it's made for consoles. what the fuck did you expected?
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Is it just be or is the game one of those games where the game massively favours Huehues and other 3rd worlders that have like 300 ping.
Because I keep dieing to assholes who come around the corner like 1 second after I the game says they killed me and I can point blank shotgun blast them like 5 times and nothing happens
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>mfw that announcer
what the fuck, it sounds like some gay fag
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>>333039778
That's exactly why they allow you to swap weapons and loadouts throughout the match so you can switch it up but not be terrifyingly powerful

If you had every weapon you would dominate no matter what because the other players have to wait for the weapon to respawn unless there's weapon stay which I doubt
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>>333038112
Are you one of the fucking retards I absolutely demolish every round? Fuck off, loser.
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>>333038112
Also:
>no Melee for Demons
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>>333040074
>Being proud of demolishing people in one of the most casual FPS games ever

It's like being proud that you learned how to tie your shoes
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>>333040127

its not as casual as the old games where you could carry every weapon in the game at once and everyone was wearing moon shoes
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it was better than i expected it to be and you have some points there op
biggest problems imo
>loadouts
weapon damage is homogenised and lower across the board to make it fair
rocket + SSG combo is objectively the best
railgun, static rifle and plasma are trash tier machine gun isn't much better
>no momentum or air control
what were they thinking
>mantle
automantle and double jump are nice it gives the maps more verticality and variety it's not entirely consistent
the maps are pretty decent can't complain they do look really nice too
>This game was designed around consoles.
yep it's like an arena shooter on training wheels
>>333038572
>>333038778
>>333038867
it's true not everything is tracked by steam especially the older ones and while far less people play them compared to popular games now it was always the case and the community aspect is a whole different world to the anonymous matchmaking sessions people are used to these days
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>>333038112
>absolutely zero soundtrack in-game for fuck sake an ambient soundtrack would have been sufficient

This, seriously what the fuck are they thinking?
so cheap electro would have done it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRnOLVeA-1w
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>>333040004
>If you had every weapon you would dominate no matter what because the other players have to wait for the weapon to respawn unless there's weapon stay which I doubt

Have you ever played an arena shooter?

>>333040074

Fuck off, I average MVP almost every game.
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>>333040103
Probably the only thing in this thread I'd consider a legitimate problem.

That and being able to melee through the SSG reload.

Everything else is crybaby /v/ shitposting about a game for a franchise they undoubtedly didn't give a fuck about until D44M footage was shown.

Sincerely, """"shill"""".
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Speaking as someone who used to be extremely excited for anything and everything pertaining to Doom 4 until i played the beta, i think
>>333038303
>>333038216
are misguided. I know it's a thing to shit on Doom 4 but judging from the beta there is a lot of shit that needs to be fixed.
Loadouts, movement speed, weapon balance, demons, autobalance, etc.
I could go on, but if this is the state they intend to release the game in, along with all the other multiplayer weapons like BFG, the chainsaw and what not, it simply won't be enjoyable me and i'm willing to wager it won't be enjoyable for a lot of other people.

You know there's something wrong when even the reddit hugbox is complaining about Doom 4 multiplayer's glaring issues.
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Post your spart- I mean doomguys
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>>333039735

>Informative
>Not shitposting
>Complains about no rocket jumping, a geature that Doom never had anyway
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>>333040272

>reddit is the yardstick for when there's something wrong

why don't you go back there then
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>>333040232
tons of us cared. The last DOOM was quite awhile ago so of course we barely talked about it because new games exist, but now it is back and we can talk about it again.
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>>333038112
>gay announcer
HOLYSHIT SERIOUSLY
IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN DO IT PROPERLY FOR FUCK SAKE
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>>333040103
Absolutely nothing wrong with that. John, when you are the demons you're supposed to play like that character, similar to being a monster in Left 4 Dead.

Revenant screams and shoots missiles out, that's his thing. When you become a Baron of Hell you'll surely get to do melee along with melee attacks.
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so how long will the multiplayer be active? 2 weeks?
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>>333040458
I give it a few months up to a year(thanks to snapmap), like RB6 Siege.
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>>333040458

more active than any shitty old game's

arena shooter faggots should be forced to go to /vr/
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>>333040365
Generally speaking, if a community is renowned for being wishy-washy and appraising about literally everything and makes a rare exception for something, then said thing must actually be quite bad.

I only went on there to secure my beta key and sell the keys i had left over, anyway.
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>>333040554
>mfw UT 2015 is objectively superior in every way and free
And still in alpha.
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a couple of months on pc longer on console
honestly i think it will be by far the best multiplayer game on consoles i wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda push for some console tournaments or something in the near future.
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>>333040349
Doom existed years before HALO, if anything HALO ripped of Doom.
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>>333040620

and nobody's ever heard of it and nobody will play it

UT hasn't been relevant in 12 years, get fucked
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>>333040349
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>>333040664
>i wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda push for some console tournaments or something in the near future.
Would it really be interesting to watch though? The Skill Ceiling is so low honestly Halo is more strategic which is the saddest thing I've ever written since Halo used to be Babby's First FPS.

At least Halo has weapon spawns.
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>>333040664
meant for >>333040458

>>333040554
>>333040707
shoo shoo shitposter
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>>333040620
>arena shooter
it's already dead
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>>333040707
and who the fuck cares about doom? Everyone hated 3 so that's what? 25 years since its been relevant?
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I swear most of you are just clinging on to some weird nostalgia you had when you were kids.

>I can't run really fast and hoard alll the weapons waahh

You know what type of people love having all the weapons and being able to run 1337 fast huehue? Kids.

You're all old, senile vegetables clinging on to a game that's over a decade old. All you faggots want is the same fucking game each time but with better muh grafics. Adapt or die, old fucks.
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>>333040707
>nobody's ever heard of it
>nobody will play it
let the alcohol wear off before you get on your computer
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>>333040841
It will outlast this joke of a Doom for sure.
Be it casually or Esport wise.
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>>333040830
its certainly more interesting to watch than halo
if they go with a clan arena mode then loadouts aren't an issue
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>>333040620

>Unreal Tournament's development is crowdsourced
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This game could be absolutely amazing or absolutely fucking dissapointing.

If they fix the stuff currently wrong with the beta it will be great. If they just fix some of it, it might be good. If they don't do anything and keep going in this direction then DOOM is dead.
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>>333040854
Maybe they should have adhered to the principle of "If something isn't broken, don't fix it"?
I mean, i'll put up with this loadout system and moving like a snail, but i lanned with about 5 of my friends in Quake Live, almost all of whom are pretty averse to shooters in general and they really enjoyed the speedy arena format. I'm guessing they're only taking it away to make it so that console players won't fly into walls and have no idea where they're going, but it's still disappointing to see it go.
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>Doom makes shotguns an iconic weapon in FPS games
>Doom 2016 completely shit on it

Pretty representative of our society.
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>>333038112
Nice troll faggot. Here's your reply. It's an mp demo. Literally all of your points are invalid it's fucking doom mp is irrelevant. Also nigga it's pretty fast as it is. With that level design anything faster is overkill.
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One thing I'd like is to not be interrupted with a 1 minute wait screen every time a 3 minute match ends. Why devs insist on this shit is beyond me.

Also what's with this weapon and decal unlock bullshit. What am I playing a Barbie game, why do I care what my guy looks like it's a First Person Shooter for crying out loud.
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>>333041078

>if something isn't broken, don't fix it

So you want Doom 3 again? Okay, at least that's better than the archaic old shit where you couldn't even aim because of how limited games were
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>latest Doom trailer has music by Refused
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSZ4tSoumNk

What a coincidence, since Doom is also fucking dead.
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same guy making this same wall of greentext thread every day

this is a paid corporate shill. they figured out what works better here.
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>>333040854

>implying people who played DOOM are old

Hoarding all the weapons doesn't mean much when there were only 6 weapons in the original, and some not even useful.

Just admit it, you've never played DOOM or Quake but you came in here to shit on it's fans with your uninformed opinions anyway
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>>333041239
I haven't played Doom 3, but i can't imagine people being upset by a graphically upgraded Quake Arena multiplayer, though.
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>>333041320
>literally zero gameplay footage
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I really hope the single player is going to be fun and decent length..

I'm nervous that we've only seen multiplayer footage.
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>>333041320
>that I'm big guy with 500kg of armor on walk
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>>333038112
>weapons do shit for damage
yeah, this fucking sucks. hoping that beta feedback will change this, but you can't really assume anything with modern devs.

>zero satisfaction when killing
subjective

>glory kills interrupt gameplay
yeah they literally do. it's not too bad tho.

>zero map design
i really hope they improve. remember when games like timesplitters shipped with integrated mapmakers, even on console?

>no rocket jumping
doom never had it, and i don't think the maps they've made really support that kind of play. for shame.

>double jumping slows you down/no air control
this fucking sucks.

>slow movement
to accommodate consoles. no point running at 500mph if you can't turn accurately with an analogue stick.

>demons are retarded
it's a gimmick, i haven't played enough to comment on it though.

>mini-perks
that's just modern shooter gameplay for you sadly. it's not amazing but it's not the end of the world.

>inconsistent damage
damage spread

>melee fest
yep, but i imagine they'll notice that before release

>3 decent weapons
THIS is a fucking major problem. but again, i hope that id still know how feedback works and can change this.

>aim assist
personally i find this irritating more than any sort of gamebreaker. it's quite flawed though, yeah, but what would you do?

>recharging nades
that's nice though

>2 weapon limit
a bit of a shame, but there's only gonna be a handful of weapons that are useful anyway so it's kinda solved by other flaws.

>FOV
you answered this one

>no soundtrack
what multiplayer games have soundtracks?

>gay announcer
for fuck sake i cannot believe they messed this up so badly.

>loadouts
what?

i still have some hope for it, but it's mostly based on the fact id were good once and hypothetically have the potential to be good again. assuming they can use the feedback constructively there is definitely the means to make an engaging, fun shooter in the vein of arena fps' but shit up a little by the demands for modern shit.
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>>333040224
Yes for a very long time. A lot of rules can be tweaked in favor of one playing dominating.
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>>333041591
>what multiplayer games have soundtracks?
Quake, Unreal, HL2:DM etc.
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>2 weapon limit
the hell are you talking about?
There is no such limitation in the game
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>>333041809
Actually, disregard that, I thought you were referring to singleplayer.
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>>333038216
>taking issue with /v/'s standard of business
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>>333041232


People like customisation. You can't see your own hair in real life yet people style it. Ya get me?
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>>333041949
>you cant see your hair in real life

What are mirrors and anything with a reflective surface. I stare at myself a lot because I am God's gift to this Earth with my looks.
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>>333042362
narcisist
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>>333040689
Doomguy did not wear power armor the way Spartans do. He even had bare sleeves.
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would any of you faggots wanna team up and talk shit
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>anyone cares about the multiplayer

just why? this game is for single player only. pretend the multi doesn't exist because in 2 months it won't.
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>>333040004
>unless there's weapon stay which I doubt

I've never played vanilla DOOM online but I've played Zandronum online, there's weapon stay in that. Is that not a feature in the original gameplay, just added as an option for the source port?
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>>333042563
I'd be up for it, though I don't think I have it in me to talk too much shit.
id/Hobotheharry/
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>>333042558
Not just Doom Guy.
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There still no word on when the campaign beta will be seen? I was more excited for that than MP. But given the comments about MPs issues, I'm worried that campaign will suck ass too.
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I think it's decent fun for what it is, but I couldn't see spending anywhere near $60 on it. Feels like a $15 download only game.
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>>333043034
there is no campaign beta
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What would you call the new DOOM's music, then?

Not Even Doom Music?
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I'm a dumb faggot.
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>>333043196
WILL there be one?...
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>>333043196
Nope.
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>>333040349
>No tight t-shirt

Absolute garbage.
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>>333043265
Congratulations, you're hilarious
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>>333043218
Now This Is What I Call Doom Music Vol. 33
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>>333038112
>>weapons do shit for damage

you're fighting demons dude, of court weapons aren't as strong
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It's not going to be a PVP game I can see myself going to again and again. The skill ceiling is just too low, I mean jeez it's not even a challenge to snipe people in this game.

It could end up being a tremendous game for Single Player as well as a Horde Mode. As it stands it just can't even come close to Quake for Arena shooting.
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>>333043324
For a dumb faggot, I'm ok.
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>>333039164
Plenty of people still play Quake/UT from their original discs or pirated copies never going through Steam at all.
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>>333038112
I enjoy the game and most of what you say is bullshit.

The most retarded is rocket jumping. Doom barely had rocket jumping and was more like horizontal speed boost. You are thinking of Quake.

Stay mad and play Doom 1 and Doom 2.
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>>333043480
STOP USING MY NAME YOU FUCKING PRICK
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>>333041320
I like how he puts his gun in the demon's mouth, but they don't show him pulling the trigger.

Is this a TV spot or something? Can't be too violent?
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>>333043562
Okay now this is just getting ridiculous.

Anyway, typical 4chan morons aside, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr6wWIjcr1M
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I just want the campaign to be gud. And I'm not paying more than 20-30 dollaroos for it on the grey market.

Multiplayer is pretty much dead on arrival and I can't see it last more than two months before people finally migrate to another rehash shooter.
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>>333043589
PG13 Doom soon
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Every game this is how it is. It needs speed and power weapon pickups. This isn't fun, it gets boring shitting on everything.
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>>333043218
buttindustrial
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I truly hope this game bombs.
But with the retarded console hype culture being in full effect I bet they'll make a huge profit. It has bethesda on the box so it's gonna sell.
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>>333038112

The first time I saw this cover was without the logo and I legit thought it was some gritty Halo sequel or something.
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NO FOV SLIDER CONFIRMED, SOMEONE UNLOCKED THE ADVANCED SETTINGS

1/2

DOOM DOA
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>>333044178
2/2
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>>333044178
The fov slider is in the "Video" menu
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>>333042607

Anon, do you think the single player will be good?

Honestly, you don't see any problems?
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How is the coop? I want to wreck some cunts with friends.
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LETS MAKE DOOM GREAT AGAIN! THE VIDEO GAME DREAM IS DEAD! BUT TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE IT BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN EVER BEFORE!
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>>333038778
Most people don't play those games through Steam, especially UT2004, UT3 and UT99. Actually UT99 still has a pretty active user base..
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>>333044264
From what we've played in the doom beta, the single player can only be 100times better than this pile of shit.
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>>333044178
Hopefully it releases with inverted controls & no option to change them. It warms my heart watching the tantrums from people too stupid to be able to adjust.
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>>333038112

So basically its casual shit. How could we have expected anything else from Bethesda? Think of their audience.
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Alright, no more namefagging after this. Tards will be tards, I guess
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>>333044438
The Dark Souls/Memeborne audience are mouthbreathing retards, but the games are still okay.
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>>333044340
>American EVA
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>>333044487
You're telling me (you)
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>>333038112
I'm having more fun with this game than i have had in a long time.
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>>333044554
>>333044487
STOP IT!
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>>333043849
If it is literally COD in the Doom world it will sell great, especially in console markets. The kiddies love those types of shooters these days.
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>>333044609
And all you had to do was have a severe mental handicap. Yippy skippy dumb dumb's big day is finally here.
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>>333044637
It's not Call of Duty. It's a watered down Quake.
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>>333044730

>You have a mental handicap for having fun
>Hate the game because I do because I'm a grumpy old cunt

Not the guy you replied to but just shut the fuck up
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>>333044412
Joke's on you, I play with inverted controls
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>>333041394
It's not a graphically updated Quake Arena MP though. Not even remotely close. It's fucking COD multiplayer with a Doom face lift.
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As someone who loved and played the shit out of Doom 1 and 2 I am having a ton of fun with the Beta and I'm really looking forward to the full game
Deal with it you fucking nerds
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>>333045116
We've established that they have the braindead faggot demographic covered.
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>>333045116
>"deal with it, haters"
Dude, you forgot to say "u mad".
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>>333038275

Instead of Halo? yeh actually a modern Quake wouldn't be too bad
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>>333039184

there was rocket jumping in Doom 3 shill
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>>333040272
I pretty much agree with this. I had fun for about 15 minutes/the time it took to play 3 matches. I don't think I'm going to buy it when it comes out of this is literally what the MP is going to be like. I'll just pirate it for the single player and disable cinematic kills.
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>>333038112
I'm on the Closed Beta and it's fucked up.
My PC, which has decent specs, can't fucking load the game past the Bethesda logo for some insane reason.
Playing it on my Laptop I'm getting 300+ pings along with literally everyone else on the servers, the weapons are crappy, I'm not that good at FPS MP I'll admit that, but still this game plays like arse at the lowest specs.
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>>333045281
>a modern quake
Reflex then
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>>333045116

>as someone who once played a PC game I am now the main demographic, suck my dick

how bout you go fuck your average looking wife normie?
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Well I guess a blow job is better than no job.
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There's a Warsow and and a QL cup starting in 30 minutes btw:
http://esreality.com/post/2808326/125-fps-sunday-cup-32-season-29/
http://esreality.com/post/2808326/125-fps-sunday-cup-32-season-29/
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>>333038275
This Quake Live fucking rapes all shooters up the ass fucking faggots bow down as respect the KING THAT IS QUAKE
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>>333038112
The port of modern Halo for PC that we've all be waiting for.
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>>333044340
My god, that's a horrible and totally forgetable design...
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>>333046073
There is some teeth scrapping, but hey let's take what we can get.
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>>333040349
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>>333045843

Or I could just go play Quake right?

Reflex looks good but it's an early access indie shitter that looks like it was made in the Q3 engine under the title of "babbies first mod"

Why can't we have a triple A arena shooter that has some cool features like the revenant etc

id software's audience is entirely PC players, they didn't crack the console market with RAGE they're not going to with Doom. It doesn't have that level of hype in the console audience
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>>333046383
That shit better have a fucking AT Field.
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>>333041320
I would have loved this trailer ten years ago.
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>>333038303
HEY ZENIMAX

YOU AIN'T SO HOT
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>>333045243
>>333046305
Seriously, could you please stop using my screen name?
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>>333039713
I like how Halo totally stole the whole "space marine" guy thing and nobody ever battled an eye, because it was fucking xbawks and ten year olds didn't know what plagiarism was.
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>>333042954
for such a shit game, at least doom guy was fairly spot on for this one. too bad it was a slow on rails borefest.

it's a good thing ID had such cutting edge tech that they could render up to three entire imps on the screen at the same time, incredible.
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>>333043163
this, why didn't they just hype it up as a serious sam-not-a-full-retail-rape game instead of tacking on a MP mode and charging $60 minimum for a lazy OpenGL game based on Wolfenstein from years ago.
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>>333046532

Even with the music the trailer is actually pretty good.

too bad the gameplay is fucking garbage.
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>>333043553
and the double jumping?

or you know, just the regular jumping? no problems there?
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>>333046404
the purpose of reflex is to basically remake quake 3 but make it better with the gameplay changes from pro mode and all the fancy effects stats customization etc people expect from multiplayer games these days
just go back and look at vanilla q3 it really leaves a lot to be desired in terms of features
it's also a custom built engine which is super fucking smooth and has a bunch of advantages over q3 like in an game multiplayer level editor.
give it a go if you are a quake fan
i gotta disagree with the console comment too i think it will be really big on consoles maybe even bigger than pc
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>>333046948
This is one of the oldest images I have saved on my PC.
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>>333047192
Have you heard of TOXIKK?

It looks good but it's still in early access, if they finish it and it gets a player base somehow I'd buy it.
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>>333047378
all i remember from 2004 was Far Cry was good.
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>>333047192
I'll probably buy reflex and try it out, looks good.

Dunno, personally I don't see much hype on it anywhere. I'd like it to be successful because then we have potentially more id style games coming. I'd like to see Q1 and Q3 have a modern reimagining but I don't think that'll happen unless Doom does particularly well.
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>>333047396
yeah ive heard its pretty faithful to ut2k4 in terms of movement and stuff it's unfortunate for them that a month or 2 after getting on steam UT4 was announced, It's kinda stuck in EA limbo too with very few updates and not a lot of content coming out for it. It is very pretty for a UE3 game too
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>>333044797
nah if it is anything its a gore filled Halo
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>>333047750
i'm not sure how they would handle a quake reboot at this point i feel like that would be even more divisive than doom 4 has been
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>>333047938
and halo was slow quake
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>It's Halo because you can customise your armour
>It's CoD because it has loadouts
>It's not Quake because you can't rocket jump

You're all fucking stupid
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>>333047164
No it's fine. Keep bunny hopping and rocket jumping to Quake. If a Quake reboot had the speed that we have here then I would be annoyed but at the moment, I'm happy with the game.
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>>333038112
â–ºcompared to what?
â–ºsubjective
â–ºhow are they interupting it if they're a mechanic that is a part of the gameplay? also you JUST SAID no satifisfaction when killing how is a glory kill not that?
â–ºsubjective
â–ºthere is it's not as effective as in TF2 or Quake 3
â–º>jumping
>slows
i'm not even going to bother with this one...
â–ºmeans you have to know what you're doing you're comited to your direction no get out of jail free bs
â–ºsingleplayer maybe, MP is just as fast as original, by Quake standards you just remember custom servers with speed a max and not default
â–ºsubjective
â–ºand this is bad how?
â–ºsubjective unless you have the data
â–ºWAH I can't shoot someone before they run up on me
â–ºsubjective
â–ºplaying on console
â–ºWAH I HATE FPS GAIN or WAH I WANT TO SUCK NVIDIAS DICK SO THEY FUCK MY GPU UP WITH THE NEXT DRIVER
â–ºokay i'll give you this
â–ºOMG you're on a roll bravo anon
â–ºWAH INCOMPLETE GAME SHOULD BE COMPLETE GAME, lel what?
â–ºsee above
â–ºsubjective, but you would know what being gay is like
â–ºsubjective until the meta shows this is broken you can't really say this is bad yet
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> open thread.
> 5 shills in 2 minutes.

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE YO.
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>>333043381
>MP
>Fighting demons
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>>333038778
Quake live turned to shit
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>>333043752
>ping 9999
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>>333038112
this all wouldn't be so bad if the game had actual proper mod tools. but no, a game from fucking bethesda and id software with the biggest legacies of mod support in video game history doesn't have mod tools.
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>>333038112
Hack modules are retarded, vortex rifle shouldn't exist.

I disagree with everything else you said.
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>>333047396
Toxikk is fucking dead because UT4 exists.
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>>333048232
>viral marketer can't even meme text properly
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>>333048616
Oh also the rocket launcher doing fuck all damage, yes, I don't like that. Should've been a power weapon.
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>>333048826

>Disagrees
>Must be a viral marketer

Not everyone is fuvking grumpy sad sack who cant feel joy anymore, you know?
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>>333039184
There was rocketjumping in Doom.
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Anyone else think the Cyberdemon design is ugly as hell?
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>>333048959
Marketer-san pls go
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>>333043506
Proove it.
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>>333043752
>hiding your name
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>>333040830
>At least Halo has weapon spawns.
Doom has more pickups than it.
>>333040841
>>333040620
No, it's not dead.
But after a while everything people will play will be instagib, invasion, onslaught. AKA modes that aren't arena shooter-like, because everyone hates having to pickup guns.
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>>333041508
>cinematic trailer has no gameplay footage
i'm shocked, i tell you
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Play game enjoy look here laugh continue enjoying doom op is a tug warrior
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>>333049191
UT has duel and ctf comps in esl they have some highlights on the official UT youtube channel
i've never really seen the appeal of UT duels though
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>>333049026


Not originally. You couldn't aim, remember.
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The only reason half of you shit on this game is because you're all old farts with slower reflexes than you used to have so you're getting dominated by all the younger people who you call 'casuals'. Pathetic
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>>333049029
Everyone does
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>>333038112
>>weapons do shit for damage
I think they are alright. There's an argument that CoD-tier time to kill IS Doom-y, but you just know people would complain about it.
>>glory kills interrupt gameplay
I think they are neat. They should have implemented them in a different way though, I think.
>>map design
I think it's actually rather neat. Lots of verticality. Better than most stock Quake maps.
>>no lateral doublejumps
Sucks
>>demons are retarded
I think they are awesome. Should maybe nerf them a bit.
The Gauss is retarded however.
>>hack module
Cancer
>>press F to win
Barely ever see a glory kill in my experience
>>rifle
OP as shit
>>mantle
What the fuck is wrong with that, seriously
>>recharging grenades
I like them, it adds variety
Telenade is cool
>2 weapon limit
Technically not true
And it's not like you ever got more than 2 on Doom's MP
>>FOV
Not including a slider in the beta was idiotic
>>soundtrack
Hopefully gets one in MP
>>announcer
They were going for a "simulation" thing
It grew on me, but I don't think it's ideal
>>weapon loadouts
Noone likes the AFPS style of weapon acquisition
There are still pickups, so I don't care
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>>333049825
>>333049026
it's really like rocket boosting basically increases your speedrun from the pushback and serves no purpose besides some speedrun trickery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KSNab0SlYE
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>>333049825
Yes, but you still could rocket "jump". One of the secret level entrances requires you to.
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>>333049959
>because you're all old farts with slower reflexes than you used to have

The babies playing on Doom 2016 wouldn't last 10 second on UT2015
If anything Doom is the slow FPS for old farts and disabled people.
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>>333049029
Wow, I never thought a giant skeleton demon with its guts hanging out covered in rotting flesh would be ugly. Goddamn oh golly goddamn gee oh man.
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>>333040349

flames because im extreme like that
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Multiplayer is probably crap because they focused on singleplayer. At least I hope so.

Not like I give a single shit about the quality of multiplayer in fucking Doom of all games.
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>>333049029
I'm somewhat dissapointed.
>>333050693
That's the revenant, you tard.
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>>333050610
>The babies playing on Doom 2016 wouldn't last 10 second on UT2015
Yeah, they would quit because it's fucking boring, and go back to playing the superior game
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>>333051103
UT
>fast
>open maps with lots of movement and freedom
>weapon pickups
>no overpowered weapons
>no shitty hitboxes
>looks and runs great
>good music
>competitive
>FAST

DOOM
>slow
>lacking weapon variety
>tiny maps
>loadouts and perks

Wew lad
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>That fucking name

Bet he's one of the babies crying about WAHH MY FOV SLIDER WAHHH
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I just downloded and played a quick match on Unreal Tournament alpha, puts the things in perspective.

You already know what this new Doom is, it's not great.
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>>333038112

>2 weapon limit

This is distressing if it's true.
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>>333051994
>UT
>no overpowered weapons
>runs great
AYY bet you haven't even played the game yet
not even gonna get into the other shit parts of your post
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>>333054029
>internet warrior becomes increasingly nervous at facts and resorts to
>"l-lol! i-i bet y-you haven't even p-p-played it yet!"
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>>333054574
if you honestly think rockets are balanced in UT right now you're actually retarded
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>>333054710
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>>333054710
>UT
>rockets are not the best gun
Are you retarded or just 12? Rockets where OP since 99' you massive fagl0rd.
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This game is fucking awesome
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>>333055162
literally everyone agrees on this
it's obvious you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>>333055309
>>UT
>>rockets are not the best gun
you are a fucking faggot

and rockets weren't op in 99, hell they were barely good depending on who you asked
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>>333038112
OP ur a fag
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