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What if its good?
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keep it in one thread at a time, shill, makes it less obvious
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>>333016286
>screaming shill while you bump the thread
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>>333016201
It will be.
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>>333016286
Fuck off shill memester
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>>333016201
>Hot Topic Fantasy
>Good
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There are already 3 FFXV shitposting threads.

Good bad who gives a shit. Don't let other people decide for you.
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It could've been perfect...
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>>333016201
It's already good.
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They have three months to change the button holding.
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hunk
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Honestly, it's looking like it's trying to reach for a bridge too far.

It's admirable what the goal is from the trailers, but not even MGSV promised this much. This is borderline Spore-tier ambitious. You can't have an open world and a bunch of cinematic characters as the same time all interacting with each other. You either end up with repeating dialogue or huge spaces full of nothing.

Video games are GAMES, they are not simulations of life or interactive movies. You can add elements from movies, sure. But they need to be games, first and foremost.
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>>333016201
It's not gonna be good.
It's gonna be great.
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Nier Automata and Dragon Quest XI will BTFO this piece of shit and they took less money to make.
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>>333016201

Then it'll be the first good Final Fantasy game. And /v/ will hate it.
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>>333017471

>Square spends so much money advertising Final Fantasy XIII that they don't even report the figures to shareholders
>still only outsells Dragon Quest IX by 900,000 copies
>Dragon Quest IX made more profit because of less production/marketing costs, despite selling less copies
>Dragon Quest X did the same, despite being limited to only Japan
>Dragon Quest XI will do the same
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>>333017471

And that's what SquareEnix should be doing. If you can make 10 games for the cost that it takes to make 1 Final Fantasy game, it is far more economical to make those ten small to medium budget games. Half of them can fail and you still make a profit. But if that one big Final Fantasy game fails, the whole company is in trouble.
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>>333019536
Personally I think they've made a lot of improvements since Wada left
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>>333016201
Unlikely.

I would be very suprised though, if it managed to live up to the hype after so much time.
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>>333020043
I'm a PCuck and I just want the game to be good man. So many disappointments. If it's a fun fucking game then good. Not subscribing to the whole "us vs them" shit.
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>>333020391

Well you can be guaranteed it'll be going to PC eventually. No matter how much it sells. The question is if it is worth getting at all. Even for $5 on a steam sale.
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>>333016201
I already hate it. the gameplay looks like Ninja Gaiden x DMC or some dumb shit. it's just weird. I'm not a fan of a character who summons weapons into his hands out of nowhere and then slaps shit and then makes them vanish again. this is why Bartz in FF Dissidia was silly as fuck.

what happened to Final Fantasy?
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>>333017278
>they are not simulations of life or interactive movies.

they totally can be and will. it's just different focusing.
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>>333017278

What you said can apply to basically every FF game since FFVII. They all promise the literal moon with crazy FMVs and cinematics. But then the actual gameplay is lackluster. Crisis Core was the worst example of this.

>Opening cinematic
>Zack jumping 100 feet into the air, casting Materia with lightning reflexes and killing enemies in one hit
>finally get to control the character
>walks like molasses, takes an hour to use Materia and can't jump
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>>333019137
XIII sold over 7 and a half million copies
The entire XIII saga is at about 12/13 million as of now and would probably sell another couple of millions if they do a ps4, xbone re-release
It wasn't a flop
The problem is that XV is apparently being structured to not allow for low-budget sequels like XIII did
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>>333019598
Like?
They made a bunch of promises
Versus XIII being rebooted was Wada
XIV ARR was Wada
XIII trilogy was Wada
Buying Eidos was Wada
Going Mobile for easy cash was Wada
Only post-Wada thing was the multi-part VII remake
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>>333022653

FFXIII wasn't a flop. But that still doesn't mean it made as much as SquareEnix wanted. Especially since guys like Wada stated they wanted it to match or outsell FFVII. As well as the ridiculous marketing that went into the game, only outdone by Destiny.

As for FFXV, it could still easily get sequels made with the same engine. But what is even more likely is a series of DLC. Not only costumes, new cars and all other superfluous junk, but also new story. It could very well be Batman Arkham City all over again. But taken to ridiculous Square levels.
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I think it will probably be decent at best. It will do some things well but will be hollow overall.
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>Cor isn't a main party member
>or the main character
>He'll probably end up dying some tragic death early on into the game

a-at least he's a temp member, right guys?
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>>333022987

Well, since Wada left, the new CEO has publically come out and said they need to focus more on games besides Final Fantasy. And we finally got Dragon Quest games localized. And even some Japan only Final Fantasy games got localized.

They still have a very long way to go to redeem themselves. But they've at least done something. Unlike the 'Only Final Fantasy matters' Wada days.
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Honestly the action gameplay is cool with me and the controls didn't seem THAT bad.

My issue is how every character has an all black costume. It's edgy as fuck. I hope they've got some DLC costumes that you can switch in to for at least Noctis
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>>333023263
Why don't you like edgy black clothing? I LOVE it
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>>333023263
>wearing black is edgy now

Don't you think it's time you took a vacation from this hell hole? Don't you see what it has done to you?
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>>333023113
It's the third best selling saga in FF after FFX and FFVII
It did very well
The marketing push was standard AAA fare
And I hope XV doesn't get a dlc overload
Just give another game
Make it based on X-2 and let me play as the girls and I'm fucking sold
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>>333023231
Yeah but apart from localizations there was nothing yet
Promises are just that
I'm hyped for Nier as much as anyone but I don't judge before a game is out
Main reason I haven't bought a ps4 yet
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>>333023494

>It's the third best selling saga in FF after FFX and FFVII
Actually the fourth. FFVIII also sold more. And that was on just one system. If we start to compare games that were released on multiple systems, even FFIV could be compared to it.

>The marketing push was standard AAA fare
It was way beyond a typical AAA game. They hired a bus to just drive around Japan and major US cities. They took out huge billboards in multiple countries. And many other things that go well beyond a typical AAA budget. Not to mention they started marketing the game 3 years before it came out. Even FFXV didn't start its marketing beyond trailers yet, with less than a year to go. But FFXIII was going hard on magazine and billboard ads over 2 years before launch. So early that billboards even had the wrong release date on them.
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I wish it was good, but I'm worried that the open world will be as barren and meaningless as MGS5 and that the gameplay will be frustratingly bad when it comes to blows vs an enemy who isn't a slow piece of crap like the Iron Giant. It's simply too unpolished for an Action RPG. Game doesn't look nearly as good as FF13 does either. Everyone fell for the bullshot memes again, but that's a smaller problem than the gameplay and game world.
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>>333016201
I really hope it doesn't fail.

For once we have an JRPG that aren't focusing 99% on pandering waifus. We are actually getting something close to 90's japanese quality, from what we are seeing.

Fuck, this could be the revolution Japanese vidya needs to get out of the deep hole of shit it's currently in.
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>>333023263
yes, you can change your costumes
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>>333023896
>instead of pandering to waifus it'll be pandering to husbandos

From one shitty extreme right to another. But I guess if you're a homosexual you won't mind the change.
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>>333023827
I'm talking about the entire saga
Meaning the whole trilogy outsold VIII
and I doubt IV sold over 10 millions to be actually compared
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>>333023896
I agree. The characters themselves look amazing as well. This is the game we've all been waiting for.
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>>333023971
So if the cast is all female you're a raging hetero and the females who play it are raging lesbians?
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>>333023896
>it's another all modern japanese games are bad and pandering meme
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Calling it now. This will be Witcher 3 all over again.

Generally agreed to be one of the best games in a long while, wildly succesful and critically acclaimed, parts of /v/ wil endlessly shit on it for it's mediocre combat but the rest of the world will hold it in high regard as an exceptional open world rpg.
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Enough shitposting for one day PKEKS. You'll probably get the game in a few years. Meanwhile Me? I'll be playing it on /Day One/
Don't worry you can STAND BY ME and watch.
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>>333024217
>Witcher 3 all over again?
TAKE MY MONEY SQUARE ENIX
Not even kidding.
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>>333024217
That only means it'll be godly, since Witcher 3's success was largely by the amazing atmosphere and story. If FF15 can do the same it is guaranteed GOTY.

>>333024189
Not all, but the majority. Learn2read. If you haven't realized it, you are part of the problem.
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>>333024132

That is how that works, yes.
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>>333016201
Even though I know Platinum was just a tech demo to show off graphics and not the combat depth even so I felt prettty meh about the gameplay. The magic targeting was clunky for a game that seems more fast paced and I don't see how they can add difficulty or actual depth to the combat that boils down to HnS
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>>333023971
I miss being 15 and dumb like you.
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>>333024132
I dunno, I don't mind it in the context of FF15. It's supposed to be a Broventure road trip, but if it becomes popular and everyone starts aping it it's just going to become pandering to all the fujoshits.
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>>333024559
Don't worry, in a few years more you'll have your chance to be 15 as well.
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>ps4 only
>as big as Witcher 3

nah
plus, it's a japanese boy band more interested in sex with each other than with girls. Geralt was canonically a redblooded heterosexual and even dudebros can get behind a game where you're a badass rockstar who bangs medieval bitches & whores because that's manly as fuck.
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>>333024017

And I was talking about just FFXIII. Comparing FFXIII and its two sequels to just one game kind of proves the point. That FFXIII alone didn't make as much as Square wanted. It needed two more games just to equal FFVII.
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>Movie is about Nyx
>Nyx seems pretty awesome and manly

>Game is about Noctis
>Probably emo, definite twink

Yawn.

Is Lena voicing Freya in the game too?
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>>333016201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX5D4Fenz5g

I dont have a PS4 to play the supposedly shitty demo, but this trailer made me want the fucking game, I love Stand By Me, both song and movie, I want to go on a comfy journy with my gayass bros.

Shame that fuckign golden face wont let this be on PC, and that the open world will suck anyway.

>mfw the music started playing
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>>333024757
Noctis doesn't actually fit in the Sasugay archetype, much to my relief. Based on the anime, the trailers and the demos he's a shy person with a warm personality toward his friends.
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>>333024648
>LOOK I BANGED THIS SLUT I'M A MAN AREN'T I?

What an insecure faggot.
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>>333024648
You may be surprised to hear this, but not everyone are kissless virgins that thinks that way, outside your 4chan bubble.
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>>333024648
What about their journey of escorting Noct to marry Luna? Isn't that hetero?
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>>333024878
DARLING DARLING STAND.... STAND BY ME

While I play this game
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>>333024706
It didn't just equal VII
It surpassed it
Besides the main reason for the sequels was XIV being shit
Wada never publicly apologized for XIII and say it permanently damaged the name
XIV was nightmare for Square
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>>333024648
Literally over 10 times the size of Witcher 3.
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>>333024878
How could people not know this song was covered by Florence Welch? Her voice is so unique.
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>>333025065
Until it became their most profitable game ever. How do you turn a game that is going to bankrupt the company into their best product ever? Oriental magic is real.
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>>333025145
Who? I'm not into girl pop so I don't know who that person is.
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>>333025154
Nip magic was certainly part of it
Whoring out Lightning was another part
Putting Noctis on life-support was a part of it too
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>>333025020
Sorry goldenshitpostingface, but this time I'm becoming IDORT for FF15 and KH3.
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>>333025202
Look it up noob
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DESU it looks like a shitty xenoblade.
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>>333016201
>Can't play as a female PC

It can't be good by design.
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>>333016201
Then the people who have been looking forward to it won't be disappointed.
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>>333016979

You can tap the buttons too.
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>>333024236
keep your goldface, already bought a ps4 for bloodborne.
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>>333025351
I did. She's a literal who. You're over estimating her relevance.
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>>333025065

>It didn't just equal VII
>It surpassed it
It took three games to 'surpass' it. And if you're going to compare an entire trilogy to one game, I'm goingto point out that FFVII has had multiple ports. Which combined is still more units sold than FFXIII, FFXIII-2 and Lightning Returns combined.

This argument it pointless however since units sold is not an accurate measurement of profit. Which was the original point.

>Besides the main reason for the sequels was XIV being shit
Toriyama stated they had planned to make FFXIII a trilogy before FFXIII even came out. Let alone FFXIV. Now, all of that could be PR nonsense. But they have never said they made FFXIII-2 and Lightning Returns because of FFXIV. FFXIII-2 was in production when FFXIV was just coming out.
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>>333025575
Florence and the Machine isn't even close to being obscure.
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>>333025467
>No BITCHES
>BROS Only
>No confusing multiple playable characters
/Day One/ Buy
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>>333025809
>BROS Only
>BROS

HOMOS, you mean. Which would be fine, if it weren't the faggot kind.
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>>333025564
>for bloodborne
That's sad. I'm not even going to consider FROM garbage when I get my ps4.
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>>333025732
I always listen to the radio at work and I've never heard of her. I also buy my music and have never seen anything by her advertised in the stands full of new releases. Sorry.
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>>333025870
What's the matter lad? Sad that you'll never look as good as these guys?
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>>333025948
I don't understand the leap of logic there, sorry.
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>>333025065

>comparing the entire FFXIII trilogy to Final Fantasy VII on PS1

Do you realize how stupid your comments are? By that logic, we can count the half dozen FFVII spin offs and the eventual remake. And FFXIII still falls behind.
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>>333025884
Well here's some music that's more familiar to you then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj2iGAifSNI
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>>333016336
Replying to a 3 hour post, but still
>I don't know how sage works
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>>333024878
>>333025145
>people don't know Florence & the Machines
wait what?


also yeah I played the demo and there are some legitimate problems with it, but I'm still optimistic. Plus just going on the adventure part looks real neat. The game already looks like it's going to be great with world building and immersion
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Its a nice number to end on a franchise.
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>>333025673
VII ports never sold much
It doesn't even have 1 million on steam
And XIV was released in 2010, XIII-2 was barely in pre-production
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>>333026050
It's unheard of to play Country in our radios.
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>>333026315
Take your job and shove it.
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>>333026295

>VII ports never sold much
It sold over a million on the Edios PC port. 15 years before Steam. Plus all the copies on PS3, Vita and PS4 download.

And why are you working so hard to defend FFXIII? Boy this argument is stupid.
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>>333026378
Okay, Florence. Maybe one day you'll be known.
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>>333025145
My only exposure to Florence Welch is dubstep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAvdqEsobaw
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>>333026046
I am
See >>333023494
I considered the whole VII compilation
With Crisis Core that sold 3 million and DoC that sold 1.5 million
All in all VII compilation is at about 16 while X saga with all the remasters is at 17 million
And again XIII saga is at 13 million
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>>333016841
Fang?
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>>333026912

>the X Saga
Are you seriously now upping it to X, XI, XII, and XIII combined? Holy shit, I think you broke the record for he dumbest post in 4chan history.
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>>333016201
Of course it is, /v/ only hates it because there's no PC announcement
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>>333026552
VII sold over 11 million overall
It's amazing, unrivaled by a single game in the series
I'm not defending XIII I'm just quoting factual numbers
The bulk of sales were on ps1 though
And CC and DoC were somewhat unimpressive sales-wise
Still fucking great overall and the remake will probably sell shitloads too
>>333027054
No
X saga as in X,X-2,X HD, and X-2 HD
Should I stop using roman numerals?
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>>333025112
No. The world will be over ten times as big as that of Witcher 3 (presumably). Doesn't mean the game itself will have ten times as much content.

I kinda assume that most of FF XV world will be just space that you travel through while most of the actual content is gonna happen in the larger town and settlements.
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I swear to god I hope they fix the combat. That platinum demo was a really bad idea imo. It made me want the game less, but I still am getting it no matter what.
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>>333016201
Look dude, let me spell it out for ya:

/v/ is composed of the following posters.
-People who watch twitch and youtube reviews like it's their bible and forgot how to have fun.
-People who are looking for affirmation that game they didn't buy are shit.
-PC gamers que'd up in a lobby here to shit-talk games that didn't release on PC or that they deem 'ruined by console release.'
-Ninenyearold autist.
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>>333023113
Square always has bloated sales expectations for their games. Sleeping dogs was a financial flop even though that turned a profit and sold like 2 mil. Which is quite a feat for a new ip
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>>333027389
Wasn't it supposed to be 2000 sqkm?
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>>333027792
>quite a feat for a new IP
Watch Dogs and Destiny are quite a feat for a new ip
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>>333027389

The director of FFXV has stated that the majority of the game, you can just sit in the car and avoid things on the overworld. Except for 'a few areas you can't use the car'.

Of course the game isn't out yet so we can't be sure. But to me, this sounds like the vast majority of the overworld will be empty. With just optional hunts and NPC quests. Which would make the huge overworld rather pointless. Games like FFX and XII had the same content with linear zones.

And it wouldn't be the first FF game to do this. FFXIV, an MMO, basically has a huge open world with nothing to do but fetch quests and hunts. We'll see when the final game comes out I guess.
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>>333027931
???
FF14 zones are incredibly tightly packed and condenced with content. Other than the expansion areas which were thinly stretched to justify the flying mounts, the zones weren't particularly big either.
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>>333024132
FF has always had a big female fanbase, it wouldn't be surprising if many of them are fujoshi, A lot of them buy the Tales games and I imagine many have been waiting for this.
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>>333020043
That's bullshit.
More Normies than ever have jumped on the hype train because of stuff like the open world
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>>333027931

It seems like it's not trying to be the kind of Open World that Elder Scrolls or Witcher 3 are and more something that goes with the road movie inspired structure they are going for.

Meaning, most of the stuff that's actually happening will happen at the places the party stops. Cities, towns, dungeons and so on. Most of the area inbetween is probably just going to be there to lend a sense of scale to the journey itself and will mostly exist to be travelled through, not to be stayed at and explored.
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>>333024648
Why do people fall back on "lol gay" when they don't have anything to say?
It's not even criticism, just a stale meme
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>>333024757
Nyx seems way edgier than Noctis and there is nothing emo about any of them

No the game will have different actors.
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>>333028169

>FF14 zones are incredibly tightly packed and condenced with content.
My point wasn't about how much content there is. But about how every quest is a derivative of either an NPC fetch quest or optional hunts. Yes, some screens in FFXIV have 50+ quests. But when all 50 of those quests are the same 3-4 types of quests, it just becomes mindless busywork. Even worse when the quest just tells you where to go with a flashing indicator.

But even with all that, there's huge empty spaces in some zones. Especially the desert areas. There is plenty of room for them to put optional quests you find through exploration. But the game doesn't let you 'find' quests. You just find an NPC who tells you where to go.

If FFXV is like this, then I won't even bother playing it.
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>>333028565
Closet fags, and jealous guys mostly
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>>333028318

Most of the 'normies' don't even know the game exists. Because it hasn't started the mainsteam marketing yet. And the 'normies' who heard about the game for the PS3 have long since forgotten about it. Between 2007 and now, there has been two GTA games, Destiny, a dozen AC games, three Batman Arkham Games, three Souls games and so much more to capture their attention. Final Fantasy is not going to be that relevant.
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How the actual fuck do people think this game looks remotely bad? Even with the combat not being perfect it still looks like it will be a treat.
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>>333028465
I still think the areas where you don't have to go will have secrets like new weapons and Archaeans
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I just tried Duscae after beating the Platinum demo, and holy shit what the hell happened? The controls and equipment systems are completely different, was this really based on "fan" input?

>>333020043
>SCREENCAP THIS SHITTY POST, GUISE
Totally not samefagging
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>>333028824
It's less normies and more people with a slight interest in games. Those are all pretty excited for the game
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>>333028992

Yeah, kinda wonder how the player is supposed to find them on a map that big. I kinda assume that they will be fairly obvious on the worldmap. Maybe they'll be marked if you do certain sidequests or talk to certain NPCs.
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>>333028465
>Most of the area inbetween is probably just going to be there to lend a sense of scale to the journey itself and will mostly exist to be travelled through, not to be stayed at and explored.

there are fishing spots though. And chocobo drifting.Not to mention the caves with potion-stealing Goblins and other annoying etc. Every bit of water will have fish in it. Hell there are fish in the Platinum demo. Im fairly certain SE has put too much time and effort into XV to let the terrain be flat and uninteresting
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>>333029223

Well, we're gonna see. I certainly expect it to be visually interesting and have a lot of memorable locations. I just thing it's gonna be more like a more varied version of Just Cause rather than Witcher 3.

Either way, I can't wait to see the map.
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>>333025575
I'm literally retarded when it comes to pop culture and the music industry and even I know Florence and the Machine.
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>>333027931
If FF15 can have the same level of content as FF11 then it will be fine.
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>>333031968
I'm tentatively hoping for XIII levels of meaningful content
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>>333031568
Then you're not retarded about pop culture
I've never heard about this at all
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SFM models when?
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>>333033273
I've heard of the band. Couldn't name a song without looking it up but at least I know that they exist.
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>>333033834
>blonde goofy guy has a huge dick again
Damn
Looks like Snow "mr. 33cm" Villiers has competition
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>>333034268
If/when Prompto gets an SFM model I'll start on a comparison pic between the two, that'll be fun.
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>>333034651
I doubt theyactually have a fully rendered penis
You can make it as big as you want
So the comparison is useless
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>>333034756
I meant using dick models from SFMlab
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>>333016201
Why do they all wear black? It's boring and bland. They are not a j-pop band are they?
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>>333035609
Black is the colour of royalty in their kingdom.
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>>333035609
They're the jap version of *NSYNC or Backstreet Boys. Whichever you prefer.
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>>333016286
>It's okay when Final Fantasy XIV does it
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>>333035609
Attire looks pretty awesome to me senpai. Suits the 'darker' tone that the game is aiming for.
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>>333036160
Black is just the colour of the Kingdom
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>>333016201
Is that blonde fuckboy wearing a skirt?
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>>333036160
I would make them a little more colorful (for example, giving Gladio a white T-shirt like the one he had before, or making Noctis' shirt a different colour to contrast the rest of his clothes), but they're not thaaat bad. Except for Prompto in its entirety, fuck that guy.

Actually, if the characters had less goofy hair (and with this I mean shorter), it'd improve a lot: Gladio is fine I guess and his mullet suits him, but Noctis and Ignis' haircut are way too big. Take away a bit of volume and you're gold.
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>>333016201

I hope so. Im still incredible excited to play it and explore the different areas. it looks gorgeous.
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>>333036568
I like my FFs with FF hair
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>>333035609
>It's boring and bland.
just like final fantasy
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>>333023896

>millennial parrots the 90s were le golden age may may
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>>333023896
it's pandering to female weebs and homos though
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>>333036627
Might as well put them in proper FF clothes too.
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>>333036764
I'm neither of those things and I'm hyped.
>21 Btw
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>>333036627
Me too, but I feel Noctis' hair is way too fucking big. Make it shorter (not much) on the back of his head and I won't dislike it too much.

For example, I actually love Squall's design, and that's definitively a pretty boy with FF hair, so it's not that I have a problem with that.
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>>333035914
>movie
Can't they at least team up with wanderers or some shit
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>>333036895
Deep down you probably wish you had hair as good as Noct.
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>>333036776
Looks good
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>>333036960
Don't we all?
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>>333036960
When the future can allow for men to get entire scalps grown in a tube and transplanted to them, with genetic engineered tweaks to grow lush pretty FF boy hair.
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http://www.usgamer.net/articles/platinum-demo-is-a-poor-entry-into-the-world-of-final-fantasy-xv

I enjoyed the demo, like running around as Chibi Noct in mini status, and finding his hidden weapons, and the aerial combat, but this demo is not going to draw people in at all.
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>>333036776
Is that a girl or a boy?
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>>333016201
>lowest common denominator normie garbage
>Literally Japan Bioware
>it's good because it's from japan
Weebs are always retarded.
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>>333037519
Yes
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>>333037607
Can you write posts without using bullshit buzzwords?
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>>333037627
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>>333024567

Well, they haven't shown everything we will see yet (which a TON of people seem to miss out of a 40-50 hour main scenario, the 3-4 minutes of dialogue we have seen is less than 2% of that).

We see a female character hanging with the bros, and it was already said we would get more characters joining the party. Luna has a female bodyguard, there is also that girl I just mentioned. Who knows, we might get Aranea as a member after wooing her dragoon ass over.

>inb4 the NTR memes since Noctis is engaged

The shipping will be terrible, there are already shipping vids on YouTube.
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So are we getting more clothes for the characters or not? I know about that DLC suit, but I want something else (which I'm sure will be paid DLC...)

>>333037848
Nigga, there's been shipping in this ever since Stella was first announced.
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>>333038007
Probably DLC only, i actually would like the costumes from early V13 trailers
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>>333037848
Shipping will always be a part of FF tradition or any other series.
Is there any FF games that has actual NTR ? or will the be the first
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>>333038138
In my opinion the new outfits and designs are way better for the entire cast
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>>333038138
>that image
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>>333016201
Well it is already
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Aranea literally wants Nocits's D
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Why is Cor so perfect?
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>>333038138
>3 normal guys and an anime cosplayer
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>>333039428
Asians have better taste in white guys.
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fuk, fuck, FUCK, FUCK, Fuck.
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>>333037739
>bullshit buzzwords
>actually trying to imply that Final Fantasy isn't bioware tier normie garbage just because it's Japanese
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Who is she fucking?
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>>333029223

Not to mention the last ATR said there are several Nifleheim bases to reclaim that are for the most part extras. Fishing was also mentioned, but there are scenes hinting at meeting people on the road for other quests, as well as camp minigames.

They are seriously marketing it as a road trip with reclaiming your throne as the meat of the story. So it'll be good.

Even Star Ocean 5 is embracing the idea of dynamic party interaction outside of cutscenes, so I wholly believe that this will have plenty of content to whet the appetite of people wanting to have a cozy adventure with their buds. When I saw that environment footage and remembered the conversations in Duscae you could have with that couple at the Chocobo Ranch, it told me they were serious about making it an experience as much as making it a game.
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This demo was such a mistake. The fucking framerate is worse than Episode Duscae. All this "tech demo" showcased is how unfinished the game is.

The combat is alright, but could be a lot better. The input delay is really bad. To showcase the aerial combat, they should've had a big mech enemy and not the Iron Giant. Shuriken are pretty much useless, and so is the shield except for maybe stunblocking.

Again, this demo is a rushed mistake and was completely pointless, and left a lot of people disappointed. I've watched tons of reactions, and ED received mostly positive feedback, PD left majority if people feeling unsatisfied and ultimately confused.

Tabata also recently said in a Jap interview that he doesn't plan to release another demo with proper combat, he wants to focus on the game. This is literally the last impressions they're leaving on people.

SE still in charge of making retarded decisions.
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>>333016201
Old school fan here. The more i see and know about this game, the less i like it.

But i guess it will be fun for the current casual generation.

>The game even warns you before boss fight to save

Yup, casual gen indeed.
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>>333027470
>Kiefer
god I forgot he was in that movie
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>People bitch because too many girls makes it a waifu bait game for weebs

>People bitch because too many guys makes it a husbando bait game for girls and homos

Next game will feature an androgynous cast because /v/ can't handle either sex
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>>333026115
He didnt sage you autist
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Does Sean Bean voice King Regis in the game?
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>>333040381

Nah just the film.
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>>333023827
>But FFXIII was going hard on magazine and billboard ads over 2 years before launch.
No it wasn't. That bus only went around for 2 week and only after it was already out in Japan, it was a demo bus from late Feb 2010 and the game came out in early March 2010

FF13 billboards only started showing up in late March 2009 and we know this because the FF13 billboard has the release year as 2010 on it and that was only announced in 2009, and this specific one was covering a GTA game that had only just come out, FF13 had no marketing or advertisement prior to that besides a single trailer in 2006, 2007 and 2008.

FF13's proper marketing and advertisement started in 2009 and the game came out in Japan in 2009 then March 2010 for the west.
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>>333024706
FF13 target sales were 6 million, FF13 sold 7 million, it met their target sales.
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>>333039507

Pretty good lineup, but I ain't digging Aranea's armor.

That cake at the end there could be delicious, will have to see about her personality.
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>>333024648
Never mind that the game literally opens with Noctis going to marry his girlfriend, and that the guys all hit on women on their journey.

Geralt is also edgy and gay as fuck since he fucks trannies, only Japanese games have actual women in them.
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This demo killed hype for a lot of people from what I've seen and read.

People were hype as shit after the event, then they played this absolute mess. Myself included, although I actually am enjoying the combat.

What were they THINKING?
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>>333027389
Let me know when Witcher 3 has anything as remotely as awesome as this, let alone monsters at that scale that you can fight.
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>>333027054
>I think you broke the record for he dumbest post in 4chan history.
The irony is off limits.
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So many people are going to let square fuck them in the ass again. No way is this game not a fucking mess.
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I've never wanted to play a FF before now, but I'm not really sure what that says about the game honestly.
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>>333039932

I've played it, and I have not had any input lag or framerate issues, maybe one tiny bit of stutter on the waterdrop spell.

The combat is for the most part fine, I want them to make targeting magic a little cleaner, since they are using the XIV way of doing it and I never was a fan of that, even more especially for the hectic action combat of this title.

Tabata focusing on the game is smart. They added things to a demo before, they may do so again. I am sure they will listen to feedback, so make sure to you know, provide input when they ask, instead of just sounding off on message boards.
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>>333027389
If only W3 didn't have ass combat.
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I hope it's good, how many copies does it have to sell to not be a fail?

I kind of wish SE would do something with other franchises though, Tactic, Vagrant Story Parasite Eve, and Musashi collect dust while this shit goes on.
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>>333041270
>I have not had any input lag or framerate issues

You're so full of shit.

I don't even outright hate the demo, but your blatant bullshit just to defend this broken mess is pathetic.

Next you'll tell Episode Duscae runs at a constant 30fps at all times.

He said he wouldn't be patching this demo.
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>>333039932
Shuriken is good for staying airborne and you have better moveability in the air with it than the Airstep sword, you can also backflip much further to create more distance, do a warp strike to get a crit bonus then followup with Airstep for close up aerial hits, then on the ground cleave with Broadsword and do tempest plus braveslash which both do crit damage

Shield gives you perfect block that lets you stun enemies and do manual parries.

I never experienced any input delay, I anticipate the IGs attacks by studying the animations it makes when doing certain things so you know exactly when to switch weapons, this combat only raised my impression of XVs combat compared to Episode Duscae even if it was stripped down in most aspects compared to it.
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>>333041270
>I've played it, and I have not had any major issue literally everyone who's played it is complaining about

I believe you.
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>>333041623

>it's a get the shuriken and shield poster who magically doesn't experience input lag

XV-kun pls
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>>333040381
Sean, Lena and Aaron are only voicing Regis, Luna and Nyx in the movie.

But their game voices will obviously use VAs who can match those voices and accents, Regis has a somewhat British accent and Luna most likely will too
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>>333041270
The demo has worse framerate than Duscae at times while Duscae had a huge grass area with tons of enemies and your party and the PD only is a huge empty room with one enemy and the frametiming is fucked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YECC8u0nPO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikCNN9rm0o
And the frametiming is actually a way bigger problem than the actual framerate, since it duplicates frames which leads to reduced frames for dodges and parry
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>>333040960

The Adamantoise will be tough based on what they have said, it's as big as a damn island.

What I am excited for seeing how people tackle some of this stuff. Marlboros seem like they will be the huge assholes they were in 8 and 14 again, but this time hiding amongst swamp foliage. The sheer amount of people who will die in let's plays will be glorious. I hope using fire sets off gas like explosions with bad breath for hilariously disastrous consequences for the people who think they can just spam random spells to win.

I could see using blizzard as a good start to lure them out of the swamp.
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>>333016841
>being so thirsty for a waifu you'll jerk off to tranny OC.
Whew fucking lad
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>>333041712
How about you actually play the demo instead of shitposting? There is no input delay on using shield, shuriken or aerial attacks, animation startups are only slow on Broadsword which is intentionally slow and heavy, and ground attacks with Airstep are slower than aerial, and that is part of the weapon weight and swing arc, not input delay.
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>>333025020
Well, he's kind of on a road trip with his friends to marry Luna, so it kind of works if used in that instance.
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>>333041901
The framerate and frametiming is still fucked
It has slight input lag the parry and dodge windows are just huge as fuck because they know that their framerate can't handle precise timing
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>>333040181
Arent they having difficulty and different gameplay option in this one? Maybe you can turn the casual stuff off
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>>333039507
>Miyuki Sawashiro
Too bad you can't marry her.
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>>333041520

I never had any input lag, what can I tell you? There were people who played Duscae who said they didn't have nearly as much dips in the framerate as others report.

I also did mention stuttering when I used waterdrop, but it only happened once or twice, I expected more from fireworks or meteorain, but I saw no dips. I also mentioned the problems I have with magic targeting, it's clumsy when in pitched battle, so how is that me being defensive? I just don't say it's shit or poor on their part, because they said immediately it wouldn't be like Duscae.

And could you link me to where he said he wouldn't patch it? Wasn't it that he just wasn't making another demo?
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>>333041901

I think the input lag for people is result of the frames.

For example, the input lag is atrocious at the start of the demo because of all the greenery, but is pretty much unnoticeable after that. Maybe people just have shitty TVs.
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>>333042308
>>333042340
There is input lag you idiots, just through the frametiming alone, they just worked around it because they're too stupid to optimize their engine
see
>>333042234
>>333041730
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>>333042452

>there is input lag I swear
>look at these videos

kys
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>>333016201
If they include everything in the trailers, it will be good. Fuck, it will be great. Anything less and it will crash and burn.
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>>333042540
>there's no input lag i swear believe my anonymous post on the internet
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>>333042653

lol fuck off retard

I've never experienced input lag outside of the first forest area

your fucking youtube videos won't make me think I did either you retard
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>>333042720
Well guess you haven't played the demo then ;P
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>>333042756

XD
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>>333040960
Why do they show the summons picking up one character while the rest of your party is still standing in the middle of ground zero?
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>>333042790
XDD
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>>333042452

I see if that is the case with you, then yeah, they should address it. I want to help make the game as polished as you do, no need to call me an idiot.

Though I have the feeling this game will get scrutinized quite a bit heavier than most, like a half second of pop in during 100+ hours of gameplay will mean the game was shipped defective or some hyperbole like that.
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>>333042880
They run off and the summons only care for protecting Noctis since he's the one who proved himself worthy by battling them first.
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>>333042880
Tabata loves dem cinematic actions
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>>333016706
> being mature
Finally
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>>333042880

The same place the party goes in any FF game, to never never land while the destruction happens.

Assume the power of the Stars ushers them away while Noctis gets to see cool fireworks up close.

Can't wait for Shiva. Will she flirt with Noctis before hitting the enemy with Diamond Dust, what do you all think?
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>>333035609
What's wrong with wearing all black?
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>>333029092
>Talk
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>>333040181
playing undertale doesn't mean you are oldschool fan
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Demo made me not want it. I'll wait until it's bellow 20 to try it out. It's going to do well because it has FF in the name. If it was called anything else it'd get shat on hard.
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>>333041520
you are trying too hard to shit on the game
stop it
its obvious you are jealous and mad
try to paly it and stop getting webms seriously
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I have a feeling this guy won't be in the full game.
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>>333044807
If he is you won't be able to reach him and he's just a background scene
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>>333042097
the framerate is only choppy in two parts of the game that last a second
the game runs fine and the graphs are beautifull
they are just a little blurry which all these little issues can be fixed by the end of release
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>>333044807
didn't they confirm that it's in as a side boss you can challenge and it takes days in-game to beat?
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>>333044907
Actually the frametiming graph is horrible and the game needs to be locked at 30
What do you think would happen if 3 of the giants and your party would be in that area
The engine would just explode
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>>333044962
yeah, but that was a long time ago so I don't know.
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>>333044962
Just Tabatas lies
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>>333044962
>in game days to beat
>with that godawful combat system
>with that framerate and input lag
Just thinking about it makes me want to vomit.
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>>333016201

I loved the grown up Noctis bit in the plat demo and the gameplay trailers all look incredible. But Jesus Christ the framerate is so bad.
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>>333044807
He is and we even saw him in some artwork from a few weeks ago
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>>333045104
can you stop basing you facts and visual information on fucking youtube framrating graphs?
do you look the game or the fps graphs?
Do you need green lines hitting high numbers to enjoy a beautifull fun game like ffxv?
you fucking cancer
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>>333045203
I'm hoping these are the things that get corrected and smoothed out before its release, thats what these final months are about, finishing up optimization
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>>333045525
Whoa I missed this one, where is it from?
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>>333045540
Yeah i base things on facts, sorry
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>>333044786

You're an absolute moron.
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>>333016201
If it's good I will literally buy three copies.

It won't be, though.
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>>333045682
green lines on youtube are not facts
its mentall illness
Try to play skyrim it hits high numbers on fraps
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>>333045720
>name calling
nice
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>>333040181


>The game even warns you before boss fight to save


Almost every old school FF has a savepoint before fighting a boss you fucking poser.
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>>333045671
A fan meeting event in Japan, 20 fans got to do a meet and greet with the dev team a few weeks ago and they had some artwork on display, most of it was stuff we've already seen but there was some new ones like these.
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>>333045853
You're retarded
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>>333046061
you know when someone got BTFO when he calls you retarded
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>>333016201
I will chop my penis off on live cam if it's good

From what I've seen so far it's pure fucking garbage
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>>333045946

yeah just like how you claimed I'm "jelly" even though I clearly stated I've played it on the PS4

defending this un-optimized shit this hard is just pathetic - I didn't even say I disliked it. I just think it runs like shit.
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/v/ is the least fun place on earth to discuss games like this. For me, it's way more fun to get hyped up and look forward to a game than it is to shitpost and try to "call" the next big failure ahead of time.

Game looks amazing. I don't think it will deliver on the promise, but I want to believe. Whether or not I buy a ps4 basically hinges on the quality of this game.
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>>333045853
Not him, but that doesn't make sense
They record uncompressed footage and then measure the framerate
I'm not saying you should care about it, but they're facts
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>>333016201
easily the best FF since pre-lightining games
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