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>just set up windows on my mac through bootcamp >super
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>just set up windows on my mac through bootcamp
>super excited to finally download the FFXIV free trial
>planning on spending the whole night learning the basics
>start download
>there's 21544.68mb to download and for some godforsaken reason my download speed is 0.18mb/s
>2645 minutes of downloading left

just sen my shit up fuckpai
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>>333007728
stop now while you can.

games not worth it
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>>333007728
The game has 7+ patches and an entire expansion full of content and you expected to play tonight?
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>>333008090
If he didn't live in Uganda, he could play tonight.

XI on the other hand...
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I hate how addicting this game is too me. I have to limit myself to only playing once every five or so months.
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>>333007728
>on my mac
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>>333007728
I just tried the trial of this a bit last night and this morning.

Mechanically the game seems decent, I got to level 8 or 9 or something.

Everything about the setting just feels too weird to me, though.

Why are these angler fish floating weird dudes with giant red testicles on their heads?
Where the hell did my character come from? What was all that floating around in space shit?
What the fuck is with these weird kid-looking dudes with fucked up mouths?
Why is my character a mute who appears to be making responses but isn't saying anything? Like, why the fuck didn't they include any text when my character is answering a question?

I guess it's just the Japan style shit but I couldn't get into it at all.

My class abilities made no sense to me whatsoever. Like I got an attack that does 100 "potency", whatever the fuck that is, which lets me combo another attack that will do 200 potency. But then I got another skill that just hits for 180 potency and I could use it twice to do 180+180 instead of 100+200. So why the fuck would I ever use the other two? None of them had any other effects. I don't get it.

There's all sorts of symbols hovering over player and npc names and none of them are explained, although I figured out a few like the weird green thing meant I was a new char and a bullseye on attackable npcs meant they were part of my hunting challenge.

Meh.
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>>333008164
>FFXI
>POL
>100kb/s capped download speeds
>Fetches the game files ONE AT A TIME instead of a compressed archive
Here's to hoping PS2 being gone means they'll just ditch POL in favor of a basic launcher/update system in a couple months.
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>>333008663
You ever play final fantasy games, m8?
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>>333008884
Yeah, the first one, on NES. So I may have missed a few details in between.
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>>333008663
Hello lancer.
At 26 you learn full thrust which is like 360 potency. Impulse drive combo is learned way later, at 40-50. Basically you don't learn a real rotation until 50.
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>>333008663
>Why are these angler fish floating weird dudes with giant red testicles on their heads?
Google angler fish, and then imagine there are angler fish that live in very loose sand
?Where the hell did my character come from? What was all that floating around in space shit?
Your character comes from wherever you imagine them to come from. The floating around in space was the mothercrystal trying to speak to you, which you'll get explained later.
>What the fuck is with these weird kid-looking dudes with fucked up mouths?
Kids just look weird
>Why is my character a mute who appears to be making responses but isn't saying anything? Like, why the fuck didn't they include any text when my character is answering a question?
Because they're trying to account for anyone's personal idea of their character they might have.
>>333008663
>But then I got another skill that just hits for 180 potency and I could use it twice to do 180+180 instead of 100+200
You're a lancer, right? It's just bad design. You'll get proper combos later.
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>>333008663
i want to say its a bait but it seems like there was to much effort put into it.
also
>finish first 184 story quests
>get exited thinking im finally getting into expansion zone and getting MCH
>find out i still have another 100 story quests
>most of them are hardcore fetch quests and even the game acknowledges this
this kills my drive to play
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>>333008090
Not op but from what he said: Yes, he expected to play tonight.
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Remember to pick best tank
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>>333008954
Y'shtola's sister is a slut.
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>>333008663
For the potency bit, yeah, impulse drive is dumb, but no other class has that potency weirdness.
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>>333009083
Oops sorry wrong pic
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>>333009035
fucking churning mists moogle quests almost killed the game for me. They need to step their game up next expansion with these sidequests.

Give me some shit like Wutai or Daguerro. I want entire zones that won't be touched by the main quest
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>>333008954
Yeah it just seemed very odd that I would learn a skill that made me go from employing 2 buttons down to just 1.

>>333008975
>Because they're trying to account for anyone's personal idea of their character they might have.

It just felt super odd. Especially in the parts where the other characters were voiced.

>>333009035
It's not bait I just found the whole thing stylistically very odd.

oh well.
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>>333009087
You're a slut.
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>>333008942
That explains it.

Pretty much all FFs from 4 and onward have huge crazy set pieces and unexplained strange/unusual races which you just have to accept as fact.

Much like every other fantasy setting out there.
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>>333008663

potency is a damage number that multiplies by your attack stat, but you're right, spamming impulse drive is the most efficient dps because SE can't plan skill progression for shit. the only skill rotation that really matters to SE is at level 50 and level 60
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>>333008363
It was a gift, friendo.

College gift from dad, but I need windows for programs such as solidworks and other CAD programs and vidya.
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>>333009035
I enjoyed 2.1 to 2.5, not the dungeons and guildhests though.
>lets make you do all optional content at the same time so you don't skip them!
>>333009087
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>>333009170
I keep doing it. Here's the real best tank
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>>333009083
I just started yesterday and I'm playing a Marauder. Level 12 at the moment. God fucking damn I need tomahawk and mercy stroke shit is so bland right now.
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>>333008663

You started as the absolute worst possible class for a first-timer, sorry.

You're just going to have to deal with having retarded abilities and spamming the same attack over and over for like 30 levels.

Or, if you want to have fun now instead of in 20 hours, restart as a Pugilist and you'll have a full combo set within 6 levels and a much better and more relevant starting city to boot. Gridania is a bore.
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>>333009979
It was a trial account so it was capped at 20, but I'm not going to be dealing with anything at this point because I uninstalled it
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>>333009324
What you are supposed to do is do heavy thrust and then spam impulse drive until you get your full 3 button rotation.

If you want a class that takes off a bit faster try rogue or pug
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>>333010118

Well then you're just ADHD with bad taste I guess. Leave the thread.
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>>333010118
A shame, but understandable, the game play isn't very fun until level 40 or so, some classes have it easier, but definitely not lancer or gladiator.
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>>333010481
I go where I please and wanted to share my views.

I already said it was not the mechanical issues of the game that made me stop playing, I was just pointing those out as some additional oddities.
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>>333010462

rogue is as slow as lancer, they don't get the third combo skill til 26

pugilist gets a full combo by level 6 though
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Welp, while I'm waiting for the noew 8000+ minutes of downloading, what's a nice server for mmo noobs?

This is gonna be babby's first mmo for me so I wanna take it easy with other nice and friendly newbies.
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What's the most insecure exploit filled MMO on the market and why is it this piece of shit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/45dksz/gold_seller_was_my_doppleganger_i_dont_know_how/
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>>333010481
>>333010630

I've been playing ARR since launch and the number of people that quit because of the boring ass early game is super high. They need to fix it and telling people to just play for 80 hours for it to get good is pretty shit.

Somehow people get through all that and still can't play their class though, which is pretty funny.
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>>333011838
It's still WoW, and bonus points to WoW because they lie through their teeth to hide it.

Their public stance is still that there are no item dupes in WoW, but anyone that actually plays the AH in WoW and deals with Chinese goldsellers has had many dupes pass through their hands. It's an open secret.
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hows ragnarok server population and end game raiding wise?
also why is there no global chat or something like that im level 50 and i don't think i even saw anyone talking in this game.
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>>333007728
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>>333012160
Man I remember those dupes, I used to be (still would be if I was playing) heavily into pet battles and the pet market and they were all over the AH.

Such a shame we got verminion instead of wow style pet battles in XIV, it would have killed my productivity once and for all.
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>>333012160
But can WoW hackers duplicate your character while you're still logged in and then switch yours with the level 0 character they duped? Or can they force you to buy a million bone chips from the markets just by standing close enough to them and rob you of all your money? Or remote control your character simply through the game's client?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rThgh5eb1Gs&feature=youtu.be

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/4d3ga4/some1_else_just_controlled_me_ingame/

Thought so.
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>>333012493
General consensus among the auctioneering community was to just not talk about it in game and you'd never get banned. I used to low-ball Chinese players extremely hard in /tell and they'd usually sell it to me.

Nothing like getting shit worth 100k for 10k and then reselling it

>>333012542
Never seen anything quite as harmful in WoW as stealing all your money, but there's some pretty absurd exploits
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>>333012542
They seem to believe it is a macro malfunction.
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>made it my business to /laugh at anyone I see riding a Bennu
>wake up this morning to a 72 hour suspension
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>>333012002
I don't know. I had a hell of a lot of fun when I first started playing ffxiv. Much more than I am now maybe it was because I had someone to play with.
The world was vibrant and fun, music is fucking amazing. It was zen as fuck. Just exploring the world, doing menial tasks, killing monsters, learning more about the main cities, the scions, primals and ascians. Getting my chocobo pal, and doing class quests, such a good, fun time.
I was fucking garbage at my class back then too, and I still had fun button mashing random shit.
Now I just sit around in a city waiting for ques, waiting for raid days. A lot of the things that made this game fun are gone now. I still enjoy myself, but I very rarely get that sense of wonder anymore.
I think the only reason I stick with this game now is because of how much I used to like it, it's still the same game I had so much fun with, so I stay. Expansions breathe a ton of life into it too, but there's a pretty massive gap between the release of a new one.
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>>333013737

>interact with players using emotes
>get banned

wat

if anything they should use that logic to ban all the ERPs
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>>333007728
Save yourself some time and effort and just... don't play it. You're only going to regret it when you sit through all that shit and end up not having any fun.

Because it's just not a fun game, I can't stress this enough. If you've ever played a WoW clone then imagine that with chocobos, vomit and then forget about it forever.
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So you guys are telling me that I was supposed to spam Impulse Drive for the first 30 levels? So all the flashy rotations and debuffs/buffs were a waste of time?
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>>333014013
More like until 26 and feint is worthless, your real debuff is disembowel.
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>>333014013

you don't get your third combo til level 26,

true thrust + vorpal thrust is 350 potency

impulse drive twice is 360 potency
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How is BLM at 60?

Just started leveling THM out of boredom and got to 15, surprised by the early complexity of the frost/fire dancing even if it wasn't hard to grasp but I could see it fucking up a lot of new players who don't read tooltips.
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>waiting for Titan EX
>takes an hour
>we wipe twice
>some player says "fuck this" and quits

Ive waited 1 hour - 40 minutes to get into a game and this has happened 3 times now. Why do people do this? I can understand if we wiped 10+ times but 1 - 3 times?
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>>333013737
>>333013989
>decide to stalk my crush
>send her random flowers, vials of blood, etc
>camp outside her window at night
>sent her a text "hey babe just thinking of you"
>police arrest me soon after
>got arrested for sending a text lol

This is how I see all those 'lol banned for emotes' people, I'm pretty sure it wasn't just emotes.
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>>333014567
You're a turret.
You need to keep oniichan and astral/umbra up up, but fire 4 doesn't refresh it, so you need to fire 1 in between 2 or 3 fire 4 and bliz 3, bliz 4 to refresh oniichan.
fire 3 fire 4 fire 4 fire 1 fire 4 fire 4 fire 4 bliz 3 bliz 4
Basic rotation
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>>333014567

it's really good, BLM doesn't start to shine til 40 though, that's when you get the ability to swap out of astral fire / umbral ice with fire III and blizzard III instead of having to transpose every time. it's great damage up to that point, but it doesn't flow so well til you get that ability
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>>333015050
hey man, if she didnt want to see you she would just have blocked you
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>>333014567
Good damage, but DPS takes a big hit if you have to drop your rotation and it can take up to 30s to reset it if you're lucky
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>>333015001
Are you doing Titan EX through duty finder?
Why would you do that to yourself?
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Are Lancers/dragoons viable at 60?
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>>333014567
>>333015589
If you're unlucky, I meant
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>>333015664
i have no friends and i must play
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Lancer is pretty borring till like 35. After that your rotation is constantly changing until you cap at 60. I didn't start with it so the one button aspect of the class was a nice change of pace. If you want some more attacks worth weaving in try picking up some levels in archer and cross classing their poison arrow ( and raging strikes) Fracture and other Warrior skills are good too and you need level 15 marauder eventually anyway to become a dragoon. I like the potency system, it makes it easier to figure out what you should be doing without a guide. The reason I appreciate it the most is for DoT's which I always found hard to calculate in other games. DoT's tick every 3 seconds in this game, so its potency x duration/3 for their total damage. Like appreciate that potency showed you that spamming vorporal thrust is the way to go.

By level 60 you have 2 4 step combos, your heavy thrust one, chaos thrust ( which starts off vorporal) and the 4th strike is a random back/side positional. By confirming combos you can add duration to a buff, and you can expend that buff by throwing energy lances.

2 4 step combos, heavy thrust, 3 DoTs, 2 aoes ( a pbaoe and a sweet line aoe) 2 self dps cooldowns, 1 party dps cooldown, 1 tp resture, 3 jumps, 1 disengage, 2 single ability buffs, 3 defense cooldowns, 1 super nuke. Theres your load out.
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>>333015001
DF is too shit for Titan ex, make a party finder, unsyn if you have to.
>>333015691
Drg is really boring to level, but at 5-60 one of the most useful job.
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>>333015691
Every job is fine, there is nothing that isn't "viable". You can clear any content with any general party composition
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Lancer is also just about the most popular class in the game. Theres more beneifit to stacking 2 ninjas than there is to any other melee dps, and Monks are broken strong compared to the other 2 right now, people should just play that. Lancer is the slowest of the 3 melee, their animations make double weaving neigh impossible except for a few skills. Ninjas can double weave with impunity. Unsure about monk right now, but they have a .7 second GCD so I doubt theirs time with all their positionals
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>>333015801
Start a thing in Party finder and unsync it you'll get people in no time
Unless of course you actually want to do it level synced in which case I recommend suicide because that shit aint happenin
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>>333015801
Start a group in Party Finder. Say "Need to clear this" and I guarantee you will fill up within 20 minutes
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>finish a dungeon as a dps
>You received a player commendation!
>You received a player commendation!
>You received a player commendation!

I don't understand
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>>333016232
Premade
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>>333016232
Two likely possibilities.

>You got into a party of three friends and didn't play like a retard which is a relief to them
>You played Lancer and managed your basic rotation without killing yourself

Both very rare skills, good job anon.
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>>333016232
Other three went in together, you're the only person left to give it to.
Or you can just believe that they all liked you, your choice.
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Wanted to like this game but holy shit is it rotation heavy. It makes WoW feel like a fucking breath of fresh air.
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>>333011838
As much as I like XIV, it's true
Packet duplication could get classes to 50 in an instant thanks to infinitely duping leve rewards, there was also the whole "hackers could use your gil to buy things for themselves if you were near a marketboard" thing
Apparently those are fixed but I've seen RMT sites selling 1 million MGP for like $100 and they ask not to have done the mini cuckpot for the day... I assume messing with packets still works for Gold Saucer stuff at least
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>>333016921
I have never heard of those things, it's rather scary.
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>>333016232
As a DPS, I only ever give my commendation to a DPS because no one ever gives it to them.
You just got lucky, most people will just give out commendations at complete random, they don't put much thought into it. I certainly don't pay attention to what other players are doing or whether or not they're playing good/bad, unless they're wiping us.
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>>333016058
>>333016062
I'm not that guy but I've put a PF for Ifrit Ex unsynced for an hour at prime time and didn't get even one person
That was after wasting over 150m in queue and 30 minutes in the instance before people gave up and left
If you have no friends don't even try doing anything other than the current raids and dungeons cause you're gonna be wasting a lot of time for absolutely 0 progress
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>>333017478
How dead is your server? Even Ultros get people for those things
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>>333008090
21GB isn't that much. I did a fresh install two weeks ago and it took about 45 minutes to start playing.
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>>333015664
>quest says use duty finder
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>>333017478
what fucking server are you on?
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>decided to level up Fisher
>finally start the quest for big fishing at lvl 50
>"get Titanic sawfish"
>at this point in all HQ Fisher's 50 gear, might be pushing it but we'll see since I'll thrown in some food
>Fish for about 20 minutes to try and get the Goby's to mooch it
>finally get the unique rod animation to reel this sucker in
>"Your gathering level is insufficient"

Welp guess I'm waiting until 51 to start that shit.
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>>333017876
It's a good thing that isn't actually required
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this game feels grindier than wow. does that change at all in later levels?

and I hate how you can't fucking interact with things by simply clicking on them in this game, even opening a door requires you to select it and then select to open it on the world's most uneccesary menu system
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>>333018393
define grind
You should barely have to do anything other than Main story quests, Job Quests, and your daily roulette to hit max level in no time
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>>333018393
Grindier? Grinding everything to 60 is rather long, but only 1 or 2 isn't too bad. gearing up is far worse.
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>leveling roulette
>get Haukke Manor
>tank is doing big pulls, that's cool I guess
>drags half the first are into the first boss room
>proceeds to spend 15 minutes kiting them around while we try to chip everything down bit by bit
>only avoid a wipe because I level up mid clusterfuck and get an MP restore
>nigger then proceeds to pull literally the entire basement at once and tries to kite them around again

I probably shouldn't have ragequit but fuck man, I can't heal through 15 mobs smacking on the tank at once at level 31 I don't have the toolkit for it.
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>>333018923
you did the right thing
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>>333018721
Doesn't the MSQ alone stop being sufficient around the late 30s

I had to spend quite a while grinding fates in northern thanalaan from 47 to 50 since I'd exhausted my hunting log and any sidequests
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>>333019430
I did leveling every day, I already had darkhold slutgear the first time I did stone vigil.
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>>333007728

Why not just use the Mac client?
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>>333019430
47-50 is the only main dry stretch I remember, have the NT zone bgm ingrained in my head as a result of that.

I think there were a couple of dry patches in the 30+ region as well, i remember having to hit up coerthas fates for that. At least it had a nice BGM, and since I was new to XIV and heavensward back then, running around literally outside the front gate of the expansion zone was a gigantic tease.
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>>333018393
It's significantly grindier than WoW in its current state, but grind is much less necessary to enjoy the game. There's a lot of stuff to do casually, experience rewards for taking the game slowly through challenges, and viable options for leveling and progression.
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Which race makes the cutest caster that isn't midlander or cat?
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>>333009170
anyone who actually "mains" paladin is simply retarded
Doesn't perform better than the other tanks, and is hands down the easiest and most brain dead class in the game
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>>333009796
good at tanking cocks maybe
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I think Tataru is the only person to thank you for picking up the bodies

She'd be a strong contender for best girl if she wasn't a potato and probably a mole for the syndicate
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>>333019956
Femlezens
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>>333020192
I like how people actually think the other tanks aren't the same braindead rotation because they have one or two added skills to use every once in a while

It's all the same shit
WAR
>Press Fell Cleave or Inner Beast every once in a while, otherwise it's aggro combo or DPS combo

DRK
>Press dark arts every time before souleater, otherwise it's aggro combo or dps combo
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>>333020401
What kind?
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>>333020447
WAR has stacks and a dot, as well as triple cleave
DRK has a lot of ogcd's
PLD has ??????
PLD plays now like WAR did in 2.x, without stacks
>there are people who defend paladin's design
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>>333020363
Best girl is a potato tho.
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>>333020552
Having stacks doesn't mean anything since you're doing the same boring rotations until you hit 5
wow, so deep

DRK is probably the least boring of the three
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can warlocks tank in this game?
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>>333020363
At the end of the Heavensward story she is officially worst girl and there is no coming back for her. Fuck that insensitive jewtato.
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>leveling up my retainer to 60
>in that time he brings me lots of cool shit, mostly high end level 50 stuff
>retainer reaches 60
>brings me back sub-50 shit now

Does a level 60 retainer even bring back level 60 shit or not?
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>>333020905
I don't remember her doing something bad
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>>333013989
He got banned for mocking people who wasted their money on a Red Zu and said people threw a fit
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>>333020864
Do you mean summoner?

Kinda. Can't tank anything important but could do fine in dungeons
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>>333021006
You don't remember her standing by Haurchefant's grave and talking about how to make shekels instead of mourning for her fallen comrade?
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>>333020363
Potatos are the best race. Get past the memes, all the memes, the positive memes and the negative memes, and the memers, just forget them.

Lalafell lore is hardcore as hell, they have the most lore and the best lore. History, culture, personality, family, relationships, expectations. They're by far the most fleshed out race even after the whole fucking Elezen expansion, and they deserve their respect.

Fuck Lalafell haters, and fuck the guys ruining Lalafell by playing them as bouncing nutsacks instead of the slav-jew-victorians they are.
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>>333021158
Since that's not actually his grave, they were visiting a memorial and she was talking about how to get money for the newly reformed scions. Shes thinking ahead for the goal of achieving what HE wanted us to do
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>>333021063
I bought a Bennu because it plays T12 music.

I also can't actually make it to the Airships. Everyone is a fucking faggot and just idles in the menu hours before they come back. Beat Fuckboys to the Airship (Extreme) isn't fun at all.
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>>333021390
To the gas chamber you go.
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>>333021513
The forums are a treat to read
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>>333021063
I'm afraid I'll get banned one day for being too violent, and name calling people. I've called several people "faggot" on many occasions.
What are my chances of being banned?
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>>333021807
Lalafell are also the nazis of the setting, pulling double duty by having performed a successful holocaust scenario of their own race and establishing themselves as the master race.
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>>333021807
>catshitters thinking they're any better

Au Ra, Cats, and Potatos are all equally terrible and I say this as a potato player.
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He's shitting his pants isn't he, /v/?
He's on suicide watch because of XV no wonder he put the Bennu's up on mogstation before the XV event he needs a vacation to get away from reality that only the WoW refugee's will playing once XV hits.
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>>333021158
I legitimately did not, I'll have to add that to the pile
>regularly has to deal with merchants trying to bribe the scions
>tries taking up mining to try and make more money
>has a weirdly prolonged goodbye scene shortly before the Ul'dah incident
>escapes said incident unscathed
>first goal after stopping Thordan is making money
>gets new equipment made for Y'shtola, every crafter notes how rare and expensive the things she ordered are

There's no way she's not in Lolorito's pocket
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>>333021870
for calling people faggot probably

I got gaoled and lectured for saying nigga
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>>333021908
That's more establishing themselves as the eternal anglos than nazi.
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>>333021973
shitting his pants at how many retards bought the bennu maybe like WOW DAMN TIME FOR ANOTHER VACATION :^)
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>>333022138
>>333021973
>retards who claim this game is on life support

These fucktards don't realize just how man shekels the cash shop rakes in, probably more than the actual subscriptions. Fantasias alone likely make them millions every month.
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>>333021390
Lore wise you guys are by far the most terrible and greedy race the world has ever seen, only the garleans are more fucked up than lalafells.

The history is rich but mainly due to the war of the magi, which also wasnt entirely lalafells.

The only true master race is the padjal, and you cant even play them
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>>333021973
>He's shitting his pants isn't he, /v/?
Why?
He pretty much bankrolled all the XV retardation. At this point he's their most valuable asset.
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>>333022235
>tfw knew a guy who fantasia'd and name changed every couple weeks
>he was a faggot
>also was cheating on his boyfriend because he's an attention whore

how do you do this shit
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>>333021513
These are the same people that let Yoshida get away with literally anything.
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>>333022401
Gilgamesh players are always so retarded for some reason on the forum.
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>>333022321
>padjal
>useless hippie fucks that are beholden to the most fickle faggot ass "guardian spirits" of all time that will kill your ass for sneezing on a tree
>master race

Uh huh.
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>fucking love miniskirts
>cat skirt is fucking perfect
>those fucking weird ass thighhighs things that look like ass
>have to use long boots like dhalmel fringboots to cover them
>also need to be a cat
Racial gear unlock when
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>>333022235
Face it anon, the majority of the people that play XIV aren't FF fans they're WoW players. OF and /v/ full of people who aren't aware there's other FF games. The 10% of FF fans playing will be playing XV when it comes out.
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>>333009796
never has a more true line been spoken.

On a side note, as a WHM, Everything other than PLD is sub-par since it fucking dies if i don't bene it on the first fucking trash pull
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>>333022401
So 5 million = $24? They should add a WoW tokens/CREDD/FLEX system already.
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>>333022401
>So glad I spent 24 real dollars so I didn't have to spend 5 million gil!
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>>333022523
>best healers and casters in the world and dont even need to do anything to be that good, they just need to be born
>live near immortal lives and dont age for shit
>spirits always on your side

The tree spirits might be fucked up at times but it doesnt change the fact that the padjal are tough shit
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>>333022401
>>333022569
>>333022701

Jokes on them
If you find somebody willing, you can pay somebody the same amount of gil it takes to buy a Zu to buy you a Bennu, which I did
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>>333022540
>not being a cat already
I want hyur racial gear
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>>333022809
or you could just wait
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>>333022902
What dead server is this
They're 3.4 million gil on my server
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>>333022902
Does it play the music? They will use it as an argument to waste $25
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>>333022748
Also can't reproduce so they basically have to hope against hope some Hyur whore wanders into the forest and gets fucked by an Elemental if they want their race to continue.
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When is the hack going to put the chinese promo clothes on the shop
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>>333023017
All Padjal are are hyurs that were blessed by the elementals anyways

They're occasionally born and then taken from their families to be trained in the arts of white magic.
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>>333022358
If people like that want to bankroll this game thanks to their cash shop addiction I sure ain't complaining.
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>>333022835
Im elezen
Been elf since the beginning, but seriously that skirt got better now that you can dye it
Im seriously considering using one of my 2 fantasias to go cat just for that skirt glamour
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>Subscription progress for the title FINAL FANTASY XIV maintained an expected stable number count, with an expected increase at major "patch" milestones. Revenue for the title itself was up by 8% over last quarter, which is impressive when compared to player feedback that has been surveyed in the last six months. Across all regions, the North American market, followed closely by European markets, brought in the majority of revenue at 76% of all "Optional Item" sales. The home Japanese market is responsible for the remaining 24%. On the subject of China and Korea, more detailed reports will be available at a later date, due to differences in fiscal reporting for those two markets. Chinese title performance was below expectations this quarter, bringing in a fiscal loss of -14.6% when compared to upkeep costs spent to maintain and deliver content. Korean performance was above expectations, at 1.2%. Both regions are currently being monitored in order to take action to increase revenue and player count. A more detailed report on increasing Chinese activity will be released at a later date. (Date is tentative.)

tl;dr - Despite Heavensward's endgame being garbage we still turned a profit thanks to cash shop sales (mainly thanks to the US/EU)

>FINAL FANTASY XIV has an approved market budget of 60 million yen this year, with a focus on social media and web based advertisement marketing. We have recently entered product deals with companies in order to promote the title more, with our 7-11® campaign as an example. This campaign is only available in Japan at this time, but we will be working with 7-11® in order deliver the same promotion to North American consumers this summer. A European campaign is deemed not possible at this time, due to regional restrictions.

tl;dr - US is eventually getting the butler and maid outfits, but to prevent scalping and in the interest of fairness EU/AUS/NZ/SEAfags can all go fuck themselves.
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>>333021867
>au ra being cancer
no surprise there
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>>333022543
I'm an ex-WoW player that only joined after Heavensward, sup. Also never played a single mainline FF game before.
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What is GCD duration I should aim for as NIN at 60 (With Huton). I have some trouble trying to reapply dancing edge before it falls off at 2.05 (Currently level 56) due to OGCD skills lag.
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>>333023003
With those prices and names it's probably JP so I'm guessing Tonberry.
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>>333023003
Not him but i'm on Tonberry. I checked a few days ago and the lowest price was like 680k.
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>>333018148

that quest isn't just for level 50, it's for a level 50 with high ilvl gathering gear that's been melded, so it's about on the same level as like level 56 shit
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>>333022569
I agree, but that would mean making an actual effort to curb RMT and we can't have that
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>>333023303
>still no source

All lies.
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>>333023303
>promotion in the US
>no 7-11's where I live
fug
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>>333023359
You're Yoshida's target audience, Yoshida has only played FFVII.
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>>333023303
>they bring it over to NA
>7-11s only
>closest one i know it roughly 60 miles from where i live
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>>333023662
>60 miles

That's not really all that far man
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>>333023359
>being a literal WoWfugee
At least go play 6 when the game goes on maintenance or something.
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>>333023780
It's really not, I drive that far to go to college every other day
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I can't get over the fact you're forced to level up a separate class to 15 just to get your first job let alone be able to get all classes to max should you so choose.

Eventually the MSQ will catch up to you so you're forced to go do more duty finder shit or leves alongside your regular job leveling. Then you add on a system where you only have sidequests that you didn't do the first time around or just literal grinding of leves/fates/hunting journal that juts kills all desire to level up another class or job.

It's such a shit system and makes no sense to me that it still exists. It doesn't matter how long or short it takes. You're just running around a roughly level appropriate zone doing the same leves/fates waiting for duty finder to pop for 15-60 levels depending on how badly you want to level alt content.
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>>333024105
You don't really need to get everything to max though, the highest you need to get any one job is 34 for paladin's awareness since Mantra is shit on anything except monk
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>>333024235
MNK needs 34 LNC for B4B
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>>333023303
>7-11 is pretty close to where I live
>however it's in that awkward kind of position where you can turn right to get in but to get out you have to drive to an intersection because of Jersey barriers

I hate weird roads. Like the kind that have jersey barriers everywhere and the only way to go the other way is to use these weird loops on the side so people can use them to go the other way
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>>333024235
Monk, Ninja, Bard, and Machinist all need to level lancer to 34 if they want blood for blood

Lancer's also probably the most boring class in the game up to that point
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>>333024105
>forced to level up a separate class to 15
If you do your hunting log you can hit 15 in like 20 minutes. Maybe less now since they added a new exp booster
As for leveling your main job, doing your daily roulette is basically a free level every day, and even the simplest parts of the challenge log is basically another free level a week that you get for doing nothing but what you would be already
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>>333024474
I have mixed feelings towards this system they have set up where the game makes it hard to do stuff at once and rewards you for spacing out gameplay.
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>>333023662
>there aren't any 7-11's remotely near me in the middle of nowhere
>will have to buy scalped codes off shady assholes online just to get my fucking maid outfit
Fuck off, Squeenix
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>>333024545
Is this your first subscription MMO? They deliberately pad out content as much as possible to try and ensure people keep chasing that carrot
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>>333024235
>You don't *have* to level everything if you don't want to

That doesn't make the system any less retarded.

The crafting aspect is fine. Almost all MMO crafting is something along the lines of that but usually blocked to 1-2 per character. The fact I can be everything is a nice change of pace should I dedicate time.

But the appeal that "any single character can be any class/job" is lost when outside of your main class/job that you're taking through the main story it's a complete boring grind. Grant you the MSQ isn't amazing but they're at least something to have you do and should you have done all sidequests you literally just have FATE/leve grinding for X amount of levels on alts.

I remember the very first time I played and I had just hit 30 on pugilist. I knew I had to go and level a lancer so I did. I knew what amounted to the optimal route to do logs and leves so it didn't take forever but it was still super fucking boring and it's never gotten any better.

>>333024474
>You get like a free level a day
>A week even

No it's still fucking terrible. If you want to continue and poopsock the fuck out of the MSQ and actually do the content in front of you (even shitty sidequests) you shouldn't be forced into doing weird side-side-side content that's on an infinite loop just to fill up bars. The hunting logs are the least terrible and you can't level on them alone. When you strip away the shit you get from one time quests you're left with a really bad system.

>>333024668
No MMO does this for leveling content anymore outside of garbage korean shit that shouldn't be counted. No MMO pads out leveling. None.
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>>333024668
That's normal. I played WoW and there wasn't any way through the game at the time except the slow climb up.

My feelings towards XIV are complicated in a different way. There's so much to grind, but the progression layout punishes your grinding and makes it extremely easy to get content just by spacing your time out and playing casually instead. Sometimes I cap out my lore and I'm still having fun but wish I had unlimited lore, and sometimes I'm frustrated that my lore isn't capped and the reset is coming up.
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>>333024668
Only on side content like factions or dungeon rewards for coming back daily. FFXIV tries to entice you not to play the game at all.
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>>333024668
>pad out content as much as possible to try and ensure people keep chasing that carrot

IDK, stuff like raid currency being capped is a necessary evil because poopsockers would kill themselves farming a full lore set in the first week otherwise. You may as well ask why you only get one shot at savage loot per week and can't just farm it ad infinitum.
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>>333024791
>No MMO pads out leveling. None.
GW2's leveling is pretty shit. It is not too different from FFXIV's run from public quest to public quest slowly filling up a bar.
WoW's current system isn't too different, either. Though the quests tend to be pretty bearable, it is the same system of "run around doing what is essentially side content while waiting for dungeon queue to pop."

Really, FFXIV's big failure in this regard is that FATEs and dungeons are the fastest way to level without a doubt. There should be more one-off quests in leveling zones that offer more experience-lucrative rewards. Heavensward was better about this, as it has actual questlines that stretch on for a while unrelated to the MSQ.
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>>333025076
Dead men pay no sub fees
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>>333025076
I'd prefer a fatigue system to arbitrary caps.
They're ultimately the same thing, but one doesn't punish you for having too much free time. Meanwhile with weekly caps anyone that isn't present for day 1 of an even patch may as well not bother for the next 6 months.
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>>333025105
I sometimes wonder what the combat levequests are even for

There's hardly even a reason for them to have a limit besides sharing with the actually useful crafting leves
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>>333025495
They're decent from like 10-15 after you get your bonuses from the Guildhests but aren't quite high enough level to do Sastasha.
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>>333023303
>tfw I live in the city and there's 7-11s fucking everywhere
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>>333025701

You can usually just do a fate in the same amount of time and for better exp too.
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>>333025861
ditto there's a 7-11 on every corner here.
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>>333025402
>but one doesn't punish you for having too much free time
You should absolutely be 'punished' for having too much free time - or to put it another way, I shouldn't be disadvantaged because I don't have as much free time.

If lore was uncapped, or had a soft cap with a fatigue system allowing you to surpass the weekly cap at a high price, then people would be more geared than me simply because they could play more and farm tons of lore pieces on week 1.

Why would I ever support a system like that? Now if you're more geared than me because you clear content faster I can respect that since it shows skill, simply being able to grind more than me however is not an achievement worthy of the same reward.
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Why does no one try the big boss fates even when there's enough people present to make them beatable
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>>333027287
Some takes too long.

Some is annoying as fuck to do (Fucking Tarrasque).

Reward is only one time thing.
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>>333027287
Most of them don't give anything worth the time, they don't need the XP, or the novelty has plain worn off for them.

Its gotta give rad loot like proto-ultima or coeurlregina for people to bother doing it.
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>>333027287
They take too long and it's too disorganized.

In the time you spend trying to down the big ones, you can probably do half a dozen regular ones and get just as much exp. Plus there's no chance for failure.

That being that I think some of them are fun to do and it sucks everyone avoids them like the plague.
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>>333026948
Well MY free time is sporadic; some weeks I'll have off entirely, other weeks I'll have none.
The current system disadvantages me because I'm always behind in both welfare gear and raid gear (since no one will accept a static member that can't always turn up week to week).
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>>333023662
I live in the middle of Montana the closest 7-11 to me is a 130 miles away and in Canada. If in the odd case that Canada stores don't have it the next closest store is 340 miles away. I could buy several of those stupid bird mounts for how much gas would cost.
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>>333027401
The utter chaos of a loose, uncoordinated group of morons trying to beat Steropes never loses its charm
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>>333027417
Well for what it's worth, I don't see a problem with unearned lore rolling over into subsequent weeks since you're still earning the same amount as everyone else.

Like if you were busy week 1 and only earned 300/450, your week 2 cap becomes 600 to make up the deficit.

WoW did something similar with their PvP weekly capped currency, otherwise there was no way you could possibly catch up if you joined mid-season.
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>>333007728
>Have shit internet
>cry about it
Fucking cuck.
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Is this game F2P yet? I want to see just how edgy dark knight and ninja are.
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>>333028084

it will go f2p once XI goes f2p
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>>333028084
I haven't done the post 50 stuff yet but ninja's barely if at all edgy
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>>333028084
They'll never go free to play, FFXI is practically dead and they still charge for it. XIV will run its subscription model after all the small servers are dead, new characters can be made on Balmung or Gilgamesh at any time of day, and the only players that're left are the desperately lonely and those too sentimental to leave them, and then it'll die and it'll be no-to-play.
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>those few people that log into the game just to talk about their iRL problems and nothing else
>other people try to give advice
>clearly the crybabies don't want advice, just to be coddled and go on about how harsh they have it, ignoring any other discussions in that
>the second the attention shifts away from them they either grop quite or come up with some other bullshit problem
>most of them are guys pretending to be girls doing a shitty job at it

Why would you even play an MMO when all you do is fish for attention? Can't you do that on tumblr of facebook?
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Wasn't there some kind of exploit for Garuda ex with the machinist turret?

Does anyone know how it's done?
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>>333029008
Patched.
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>>333029008

put turret ouside arena
aggro boss
win

it was patched though, worked for ifrit as well
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>>333029045
>>333029068
Shit. Wanted those stupid fistkettles.
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>>333013737
>go around interrupting peoples teleports since 2.0
>get many tells of reported
>never banned
>you go around laughing at cash shop kiddies and get the axe
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>>333029109
You're acting like you can't just undersize Garuda and beat her in 30 seconds
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>>333011838
Hey, I had this chick in a dungeon a while back.

She was a good healer.

H-Hi!
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>>333029516
Yeah, I just didn't want to deal with PF bullshit.
After completing Titan EX undersized wth 8 people and failing for 40minutes I kind of lost hope in these retards capabilities.
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>>333029893
>After completing Titan EX undersized wth 8 people and failing for 40minutes I kind of lost hope in these retards capabilities.

Literally fucking how.
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>>333028084
Dark Knight is the good kind of edgy desu

They're all about protecting the weak, and Fray the trainer is funny and goodhearted, if not a bit of a dick.

also it's all about you being tired for not getting proper recognition
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>>333030026
It's FFXIV.

Players are /that/ bad.
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>>333029893
>8 people
So you're one of those retards then? You're not a mentor are you?
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>>333030110
As much as I'd love to be able to, I can't heal and tank as a MCH. Players were getting knocked off left and right, healers often dying first because they can't into quickcast or moving for a second.
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>>333029893
How? You can fucking beat it in like 2 minutes with a few 60s.
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These are the kinda players you have to deal with in this game.
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post some hot fanart
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>>333030619
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>>333030531
>LB with only 3 dead
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>>333030531
lolllllllllllllllllllllll
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>>333030531
>that UI
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>>333030531

Word.

I stopped playing XIV because the playerbase is the worse I've ever experienced in an MMO.

They're super defensive too, so you can't give anyone advice without them getting pissy and telling you to fuck off and mind your own business.
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>>333030689
back to /x/
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>>333030904
I regularly give advice to people how to improve in dungeons. Usually they are pretty glad and try to incorporate it. Then again I am doing it rather polite and non-threatening, something most /v/-tards are probably not capable of.

Only times people gave me shit for it when it is a bf-gf combo and the bf flips his shit when someone dares to say anything to his waifu.
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>>333030904
>They're super defensive too, so you can't give anyone advice without them getting pissy and telling you to fuck off and mind your own business.
This has gotten so much worse since 3.0.
Not everyone was a top player but at least it didn't feel like everyone is a fucking retard in 2.55, especially pug healer quality is so fucking shit right now both in DF and PF.
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>>333030863
maximum cringe
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>>333031123
>healer quality is shit in DF and PF

How? Healing is braindead, dpsing as healer is even easier if you meld some acc. Even sephiroth ex is stupidly easy and I could probably write a healing macro for each phase to do the healing seeing that it is the same boring shit over and over.
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>>333030531
I've cleared Sephirot about 40 times now and I have never seen anyone die to that ever.
I laughed way more than I should have.
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Oh look, it is "We are all XIV elite and everyone else sucks balls in this game if their dps doesn't compare to the top xivlogs dps during any content" hour.
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>>333031078

Then one of us had an abnormal expierience.

I remember doing the 1-50 dungeons multiple times to level up my classes, and there was almost always at least one retard in the group (usually a gay catboi)

Explaining simple dungeon mechanics like the lanterns in Haukke manor, or the fruits in aurum vale was hard enough. Trying to explain to someone a way to improve how they play their class almost always got me a hostile reaction. I wasnt an asshole or anything about it either, I would just point out what they were doing wrong, and how they could improve it, and they almost always took it like babies
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>>333030904
>They're super defensive too, so you can't give anyone advice without them getting pissy and telling you to fuck off and mind your own business.
THIS. I remember I tried telling a sch not to have his pet on follow during titan because it was just lagging behind and getting hit by everything and he got ridiculously mad. Started cursing me out and shit despite the fact that I was trying to be as nice about it as possible.
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>>333031246
Exactly. These retards are just standing around, have 50%+ overheal and still can't keep a tank or party up, they complain when you pull more than 3 mobs at a time or tank without tank stance.
Don't even get me started on the primal farms with 2 healers, both at 70% overheal and around 50 dps. I can fucking heal this better and do more dps alone.
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>>333031345
Huh. Whenever I see the New Player message I offer to explain stuff, and whenever I do people usually follow along. Never had any problems in any of the DF dungeons with the exception of the Vault and a healer that simply couldn't cope with the last boss, literally throwing a tantrum when I offered some advice.

Maybe it is because I am not playing during the servers prime time, but people seem quite thankful, at least if my commendations are something to go by.
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>Shitters that get mad at healers stance dancing
>Healers should heal!
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>>333030531

A surprising amount of people play so zoomed in their character asses they're simply unable to pick up where a light goes off on the ground.
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>>333031412
Oh.. guess that is something I simply do not witness, seeing I exclusively play healer. Or rather greenDPS seeing that there is almost no healing to be done this patch.
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>not ruining some catniggers gay ERP session every chance you get
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>>333031575

>Getting mad at healers for doing the only semi fun thing they're capable of.

I hate when people whine about not always being topped off. Until you actually die, shut the fuck up and let me cast stone 2000 times
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>>333031575
Never heared anyone say that.

Are you making storys up again, /xivg/?
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>>333031340
>everyone else sucks balls in this game if their dps doesn't compare to just standing still and auto attacking
fixed
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>MCH Lalafell starts shitting on the Tank because he didn't bother to check where he was in the map before engaging the boss and sealing him off

Fucking asscancer I swear.
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>>333031635
>Or rather greenDPS seeing that there is almost no healing to be done this patch.
Keep up the good work. That's also why i play healer myself most of the time (or have an FC member go healer), because it hurts to watch people play so badly.
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>>333031713
got a good story?
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How do I play NIN?
Is it just Opener, then prioritise Huton > Slashing debuff > Shadow Fang > Mutilate > Aeolian; while using Trick Attack on cooldown?

Because I can rotate skills just fine (1320 DPS on Stone/Sky/Sea dummy @ i210), but I have no intuition when it comes to killing adds or popping damage cooldowns.
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>Most cities' night theme are superior to their daytime theme
>None of these are available as orchestrion rolls (yet)

Fuck off Yoshida.
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>>333010481
>he gives legitimate reasons for not liking the game
>ADHD

Eat shit dude
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>>333031545
There's a few that actually want to get better and welcome advice but there's also a ton that are just straight garbage and clearly do things wrong and don't put in any effort in attempting to get better.

Best examples would be
>Any melee that doesn't move for positionals
>Tanks that eat mechanics / don't use CDs
>SCH/SMNs that leave their pet on follow/auto
>Bards that don't use dots

These people just have others carry them through the game and get mad whenever anyone questions them.

>>333031819
You'd be surprised with the amount of stupidity that you find in DF. I've had people yell at me because I let them drop below 50%.
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>>333030904
I've had great luck with strangers. People in DF usually know their shit in my experience and listen well when they don't.
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How do I MCH
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So my sub ran out a couple days ago, and I can't add a subscription with a credit card or even just register it, keep getting 'error 601'. Anyone had this problem? Should I just buy crysta?
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>>333032353
If you can, the just buy crysta. They cost the same.
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ffxiv is a shitty game, don't even bother, just go play wow if you actually care about anything other than roleplaying. i have thousands of hours in the game and was even server first for one of the older raids on one of the most popular servers (even though its the roleplaying server lmao)

>2.5 second global cooldown
doesn't matter what class you are playing, the combat is boring. there is almost no mechanical requirement to doing optimal dps outside of going on a forum or whatever and finding the optimal rotation. its too easy. so easy that its boring.

>the fights all suck
the only good raid was the first coil, everything after that is filled with shitty one shot mechanics or stat walls that force even the best groups to have to just wait for tome gear. because the mechanics themselves aren't hard and they artificially make the fights harder, once your group beats it once or twice, you should never ever ever wipe that fight ever again if your group isn't shit.

>pvp
worst pvp in any mmo i have ever played. that's it really.

>nothing to do late game
you can either sit around and idle/erp, or you can grind your end game currency cap with the suicide level boring dungeons, or do your raid for the week, that's it

unless you are a crafting autist i guess

don't play this game if you want good mmo combat. don't play this game if you are an active end game mmo player.

the only way i can recommend the game is if you are a roleplayer who just likes the ff universe or a complete and total casual who doesn't care about the complete lack of any challenge in any content.
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>>333032232
I don't get it either. Every time I use DF I get decent players. Only bad experience I've had was one of the boss fights before HW MQ where the party wiped 3 times on that masked face bitch.
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>>333031819
There's the occasional tank who thinks healers' only job should be to constantly top off their HP when they take even the smallest amount of damage
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>>333032128
Nah I just do this to everyone I see spamming /pet and /blowkiss and other gay shit to each other every 5 seconds.
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>>333032232
I used to be just like you, I didn't have any real bad experiences but then I got a parser and started noticing just how terrible everyone is and how much I carried dungeons.
Download a parser and keep it open throughout DF and your entire demeanor will change regarding pubs.

Somehow, at 60, people are doing less damage than what they would've been doing at 50
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>>333032635
Hey nep, about time you showed up. Still salty because Yoshi-P called you fat?
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>>333032721
I avoid parsing because I know it'd be like that for me.

It's already bad enough when I pay attention to what the dps is doing (which is jack shit)

BLMs that don't use enochian, BLMs that just use blizzard

DRGs that don't use blood of the dragon

MNKs that don't maintain GL
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>>333032181
>Any melee that doesn't move for positionals

That's funny, because I had the opposite happening back when T5 was relevant. I was playing MNK and hitting my positionals when that dickwad BRD started berating me for "moving all over the place". We had an argument over positionals and he had the gall to say there's no such thing and then told everyone else to go fuck themselves when they corrected him and threatened to report every single one of us.
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>>333032635
Just about half of first coil was filler garbage and t5 was one of the shining examples of one shot bullshit.
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