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Whoa. This is really shitty.
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It's extremely obviously an internal tech demo to showcase the engine that they for some fucking reason decided to repurpose into a commercial demo. God knows why they thought it was a good idea
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>>332961939
/v/ is trash, all you idiots bash on anything new that is coming out.

fuck you all, i'll never be back!
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>>332962519
You actually liked this clunky unplayable mess that looked like absolute dog shit?
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I like it.
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>>332961939
Noctis looks sad.
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I'm a bit sad because FF15 is going to be the end of SE, and I don't understand why they let it happen, I knew it was going to flop since the first picture of Versus XIII

Little did I know they would transform a low budget spinoff into a 10-year developpement game that would need 10 million sales to turn a profit
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>>332963147
Man, you need to get in touch with them so you can enlighten them with your business sense.
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>>332962259
Square Enix is not capable of good ideas. I mean fuck, just look at the Fabula Nova Crysalis thing that this game sprung out of.

They're the most arrogant and pretentious company in the industry.
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>>332962259
you say this like the final game isn't going to be the same, which is like the non-MMO version of "but it's just a beta"
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People are disappointed with this shitty demo

http://www.giantbomb.com/final-fantasy-xv/3030-21006/forums/platinum-demo-impressions-1794532/
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I'm glad they turned magic into items that are so frustrating to use that you just don't even bother with them. Makes it easier to focus on holding down a button and doing QTEs.
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Who gives a fuck.
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>>332963249
Yes, I am usually extremely right on my game success predictions. I dunno how but I can immediatly see the soul of a game. I'm kind of a game medium.
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>>332963557
>Yuri Lowenthal and Friends The game

lmao
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I preferred this game when it looked like more like KH combat desu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ7MwTXYLpg
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I actually kinda enjoyed the final battle in the demo
What I want to know is who the FUCK thought it was a good idea to limit the rest of the demo to holding circle against uninspired trash mobs and nothing else
I'd be more excited for ffxv if I'd gotten a bit more time with the systems in place in the actual game, not whatever the fuck the demo was
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>>332963624
woah...
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>>332963679
Compared to the XV demo, sign me the fuck up
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>>332961939
No it isn't.

Get the shield and shuriken then get gud
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>>332963147
But it doesn't and it won't.
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>>332962519
Good luck with GameFaqs, because anywhere else, and you won't be able to discuss a diverse amount of games.
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>>332964617
No matter what you do it won't suddenly feel more responsive.
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>>332961939
Can somebody tell me what is exaxtly wrong with the demo?

If its only cluncky controls that can be easliy fixed.
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>>332963502
Non of those casual faggots even bothered to get the shield or shuriken
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>>332964841
Cluncky controls, framerate issues and a bit of input delay.
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>>332963349
It's not you fuck, they outright said this isn't even a part of the actual game and is its own thing, this is literally just a tech demo
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>hype up new engine
>spend millions on it
>game doesn't run at 1080p or even 30fps

jesus fucking christ lol
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>>332964736
Reminds of me Whathisname game by EA who proudly claimed to expect 3 million sales and sold like 200k
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>>332963557
P5 is already confirmed shit because it's been delayed three times, XV already plays better than any Persona and already outclasses P5 in all aspects
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>>332961939
Yeah it is. Should have had a longer section with older noctis and more enemies to fight as him because everything before you get to him is pure ass.
It really feels bad to play mainly because of frametimes and the animation priority. I'm not against having animation priority in games because if you do it right it can feel really good (Monster Hunter, Dark Souls) but here the hits that connect don't feel good so the combat just ends up feeling really powerless.

This was not a good demo to give to people to play around with and has actually killed my hype a fair bit.
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>>332961939
Like fuck it was, it was LEAGUES better than 13. The only complaint I have was the fucking awful driving controls.

The combat was fine, very similar to KH
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It's clearly a KH spin-off.
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>>332962519
And nothing of value was lost.
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>>332965269
Not a very good one if it is.
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>>332964617
those don't make the gameplay and combat-system any better
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>>332965269
one thats not really anything like kingdom hearts?
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>>332965269
It used to be. Same menu and everything. I wish it stayed that way.
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>>332965007
Well that's better than expected, all of that seem the kind of problems you'd expect in a beta.

Seems the flop isnt confirmed yet, unlike Episodic fantasy VII
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>>332965269
No, this >>332963883 was a KH spin-off.
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>>332965202
XV-kun, you should really read the filename on that picture some time. You are easily baited.
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>>332963883
It's exactly the same actions, animations, speed and input, just a different hud
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>>332964781
>>332965360
Yes they do
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>>332964942
there was a shield?
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>>332965751
Yup.
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>>332964942
>the game is better when you get the secret items that make it so you don't have to fight the monster up close and have to deal with how terrible evading is
Yeah, that really made it a much more enjoyable experience.
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I don't care if this game is good or not.
It's KH3 that'll break my heart for being bad though.
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>>332965630
the mechanics were obviously different, the animations are too long now and don't cancel, also the bamham targetting system along with the input lag makes the whole thing feel sluggish and disconnected.
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Graphics impressed me desu. Gameplay was ass. This company has infinite money and decades of experience and the game plays like shit...fucking Mario 64 has more satisfying combat
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>>332962259
I felt this too. It showcased physics, weather, time, combat and a boss, but left all the complexity of the full game out. It's a tech demo

Was fucking weird. Not sure why they thought this was something to get people to pre-order it

I almost felt bad when the screen popped up at the end saying 'Buy Final Fantasy XV?' my immediate thought was; why the fuck would anyone after that? It wasn't the game they were selling
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>>332966016
you are not wrong
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Why is the combat so lethargic?
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>>332965517
See
>>332965630
Its still the same

>>332965398
There is still a menu, in the full game the menu is mapped to a shoulder button and it has the items, abilities and whatever else in it, we saw it in the progress report and in the Niflheim footage
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>>332966195
I guess they thought that people would get impressed by their tech.
Sure it looks pretty but it's not impressive if it runs this bad.
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>>332966342
Thought that was Guild Wars 2's sword for a second.
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>>332966016
DMC-kun still spouting shit about things you've never played I see.
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>>332965202
and how many times have FFXV been delayed?

What's even worse is that I actually hope to God that they delay FFXV one more time, becuase it clearly needs more than 6 months to fix whats wrong with it.
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>>332966342
These guys change the HUD every week. I wouldn't be surprised if it looked completely different than it does now when it launches.
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>>332966342
I would have loved the demo if it was just combat against a variety of enemies in that debugging area.
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Godamn I can't wait to get home and play the demo. I need to see why it has so many people's sonichu necklaces tied in a bunch
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>>332966229
Cause you're a retard that can't read the thread
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>>332966061
But that's wrong, the animations are identical to the versus ones and there is cancelling, if you played the demo you would know that. And it's nothing like bamham, the full game has manual lock on, hard locks and soft locks, plus bamham has no aerial combat or is anything like how XV plays
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Duscae was better than this
I don't know what they were thinking
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Remember when games had good demos?
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>>332966645
XV was never delayed because they never gave a date for it until 2 days ago
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>>332966760
Me too, but people like us who want to get deeper into the combat mechanics and already like the world enough will probably buy the game anyways. I think the demo itself is aimed at a very specific type of people, those who have no idea what the game is at all or kingdomhearts fans, using cheap previews of the titan, leviathan and a metal golem as some kind of big amazing teaser (things that we've all seen many times over)
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>>332966229
Because it doesn't give you all the tools you need at the start (shuriken, shield, only gives one fireball), doesn't explain anything about the combo system, and sets up false expectations about the combat with young Noctis. Most of the demo, you're playing as a runt with a homing three-hit combo and homing strong attack, with a laggy jump, all the while focusing on a collectathon with platforming for absolutely no reason.

They really should have focused the demo on older Noctis's combat, and then refined it from complaints. Right now, it's all complaints about young Noctis, which won't be in the final game anyway.
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>>332967090
Get the shield and shuriken m8
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>>332967245
I remember when Square used to make good games.
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I hope they patch it like they did Duscae.
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>>332967354
no it just took them 10 years to make. They worked on it the entire time, right?
Don't get semantic with me XV-kun, if officially stated delays was ever a sign of weakness, Nintendo wouldn't still be alive today.
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>>332967704
Why would they? This isn't meant to be anything related to the actual game

I think we're still supposed to get one more demo before release
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>>332963547
How can anyone have trouble using the magic? It's idiot-proof.
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>>332964617
>>332964942
>>332967520
>please get the secret items you will like it i promise!!
Jesus dude give it a rest.
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>>332967459
What was the point of combat with young Noctis anyway? I get that it was supposed to mainly a tech demo with all the switches that changed the time and weather, but the combat there was just shit.

>>332967952
>I think we're still supposed to get one more demo before release
We'd fucking better. It's obvious this was only released just because of the event anyway.
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DMC
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>>332968413
he literally just want people to fuck off and play the demo again. That will guarantee that they don't come back and call him out on his bullshit for the next 40 minutes.
Just ignore it.
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The animations and general responsiveness of the combat reminded me of Devil May Cry 2
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>>332969259
that bad, huh
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>Final Fantasy game
>no girls in the party
>party is actually 4 zoolanders on a road trip
>the devs have ambitions to sell 10 million units

I don't know how strong the fujoshi market is in Japan but this game is in serious trouble in the west.
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>>332961939
Looks like Jontron in the thumbnail
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>>332964736
>surpass FF7

literally impossible because of shitty XV cast
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>play this shit
>they ask if you want to preorder at the end
do they not realize how shitty this experience is? why would someone want to preorder after this shit
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>>332969720
because it might sucker some people into buying it there and then, its like a surprise tactic that some autists won't be able to resist, pre order it, then forget about it. They are literally banking their future on this game.
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>>332969615
Already better
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>>332961939

>Look guys I hate everything AAA! Am I fitting in yet? XD

Literally kill yourself.
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>>332970775
no, XV-kun, you kill yourself.
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>>332967901
I don't know what you are trying yu say because xv wasn't in full-time development for 10 yrars straight every day every week

It only became a game in 2010 at the earliest which is the same time Persona 5 started full time development
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Why are the japs so fucking retarded? Deep Down, FFXV, MGSV, all games with disastrous development cycles, built on poor-quality in-house engines which will never be used for other games. I am amazed at what a colossal and tragic waste of manpower, talent and money they have all proven to be, producing something that has a subset of the functionality of off-the-shelf engines in 2015.
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>>332970935

If Fox Engine was licensed out like Unreal then it would be a total success.
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>>332968413
So you didn't get them

>>332968912
No I couldn't care less about the first three parts of the tech demo, only the IG fight, get the fucking shield and shuriken because yes it makes a ton of difference
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>>332961939
the fps is ass they should just lower the res to 900p
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>>332970935
>built on poor-quality in-house engines which will never be used for other games
>Fox Engine
>Unused.
PES.
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>>332971070

But Metal Gear 5 doesnt look all that good. The enviroments are pretty bland and empty.
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So is combat supposed to be worse or something? I played the first demo months ago.
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>>332970846
>le everyone not shitting on xv is le xvkun meme
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>>332970935

Japs are not very good at computers. PC ports are always lacking.
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>>332971278

>what is P.T.

If MGSV didn't have scaled down open-world assets being used it would look a lot better. Imagine if we could use mods in MGSV like in Fallout 4, it'd be the best looking game in the world.
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>>332970935
Nice copy pasta
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>>332971324
While there are issues, mostly technical, I think the combat is overall an improvement. The demo is free so play it yourself if you want to see.
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>>332970935
Because then /v/ would get mad and greentext Unreal Engine.

But at least the game would look decent and would actually come out sooner, like the ton of other AAA titles.
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>>332966195

>Buy our game?
>No
>o-okay, don't forget you can buy from the main menu later!
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>>332970935
fox engine is used on other projects though

in this list I would go

fox>dogshit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lum

no idea about panta thogh...
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>>332964841
If they havent fixed clunky controls and battles already after 8 years in development...
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>>332971704
No.
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2016/04/final-fantasy-xv-needs-to-sell-10-million-units-to-be-a-success/
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>No playable females

Thank god FF7Re is coming.
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>>332972125
>FFRe

only FF I'm looking forward too, since FF7_
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>>332961939
He looks way too fucking asian
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the horn on the fox looks like a PENIS
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>>332972125
I get what they are going for, but I feel like it will be really boring watching 4 guys camp out all the time and eat foods and idle the same animations for a long rpg adventure. It just seems like some fujoshi's wet dream to have 4 hot guys sleeping together in the outdoors and eating different food, but hopefully there will be more variety from what we've seen
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I stopped giving a shit about Versus XIII when I realized it was 9 years later and they were still working on the fucking game.

It's gonna be bland mediocre shit.
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>>332964736
>>332963147
So they're dreaming for Skyrim numbers, that's hilarious.

I can tell you right now it's not going to happen unless they somehow make this more palatable for the normals. The japanimation bishonen shit isn't going to fly with dude bros, it severely limits the audience, basically the same niche Final Fantasy has dug itself into in the last decade of around 2-3 million.
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>>332972125
>Thank god FF7Re is coming.
What? It's episodic garbage with bad combat aswell
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>i-it's just a tech demo to show off how it looks not how it plays
And the game looks like shit
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>>332972597
That says more about you than the game's designers.
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>>332971704
No it isn't
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>>332972125
You must be gay or worse a tranny
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>>332972362
What's wrong wtih that? Luna looks Asian too.
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>>332973518
>The japanimation bishonen shit isn't going to fly with dude bros
It really isn't.
I was streaming the demo for a moment and when I was doing nothing people would flock in, and then once I did some shit like webm related I lost half of the viewers.
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>>332972861
You do know they are going to have lots of interaction with the female characters right?
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>>332973518
Cab you not read?
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>>332974595
>>332974490
God that is so boring. I don't know what you kids see in this floaty air teleport shit.
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>>332974490
>, and then once I did some shit like webm related I lost half of the viewers.
Exactly, because dude bros hate japanimation shit.

Why would start your post in disagreement only to reaffirm what I said. Are you retarded?
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>>332975381
Read it again, he wasn't disagreeing.
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>>332975381
>Why would start your post in disagreement
He didn't you dumb shit.
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>>332974416
I think asians are ugly tbqh
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>>332975497
>>332975529
He said "It really isn't."
That's disagreement. Learn to fucking read morons.
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I still cannot fucking believe how boring the entire main cast looks. They're the most utterly boring stock fujobait characters possible, with very little visual diversity to the point where they color coordinated their fucking outfits. Their personalities are bland, their dialogue is bland, they're CONSTANTLY talking and they almost actively drag everything and everyone around them down in quality. Like, I don't even hate them, I'm just unbelievably bored by them.

I will enjoy listening to the soundtrack and honestly, that's probably about as far as I'm going to bother with this mess.
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>>332961939

It's about as shitty as every trailer has made it out to b,. not sure why you're surprised.
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>>332975767
>The japanimation bishonen shit isn't going to fly with dude bros
>It really isn't.
You said it isn't, he also said it isn't.
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>>332975767
You really are fucking stupid. And no, claiming ESL won't save you
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>>332975901
No I said it isn't going to fly, he said in response to that "It really isn't" which is disagreement.

Had he said "It really isn't going to fly" that would be agreement.
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>>332975045
That's not even how the game even intends for you to play it. This is like K-Style shit in GunZ where you have to abuse warping to make the game look even remotely interesting.
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>>332961939

It really was. The first demo was way better. This one seemed to have no purpose other than showing off a few different environments and the lighting/weather effects.
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>>332975901
>>332975963
baited :^)
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>>332976248
>Anonymous (63)
>This is the 63rd IP in the thread.
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>>332962612
>maybe if i just say complete lies people will talk to me
pathetic
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>>332976151
But it is how they want you to play it. It's not even deep tech or anything. That's just how the air combat works.
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>>332975045
You gay
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>>332976151
Yes it is, that's a core part of aerial combat
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>>332976479
>defending Platinum Demo
pathetic
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>>332977197
Aerial combat is totally unnecessary.
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>>332962612
Get the shield and shuriken nigger

>>332977284
Get the shield and shuriken
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>>332977360
No it isn't, it's a core component because there are massive enemies and aerial enemies, airships you warp into, massive buildings to warp to and from, aerial bosses etc, and you can also use it to avoid ground based monsters
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>>332977461
see
>>332968413
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>>332977673
It was nice of them to include a tutorial in the demos that explained how to properly perform aerial combat.
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>>332978369
>JRPGs need more handholding
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>>332977284
the people who didn't like the gameplay just sucked at it
>waa, there's only one button to attack and one button to jump, there should be 2 or more buttons to do each action
>waa, i just held down the o button and it was boring, wish they told me how to play because i don't like experimenting (i also like to read game manuals for fun)
>waa, i don't know how to dodge correctly! it's too hard!

the only complaints worth mentioning are FPS drops and poor textures, but both of those things can be fixed before it comes out and aren't pertinent to a fucking FREE demo
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>>332978450
>explaining basic concepts is handholding
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>>332978523
It's not a basic concept, it's an advanced concept.
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>>332975045
>kids

There's that word again
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>>332978451
>hurr git gud
>the only reason you don't like something is if you don't get it
That filename also makes you look like a 12 year old.

>>332978594
>combat is an advanced concept
Then what IS a basic concept? Don't say ground combat because there's not much difference between that and aerial combat.
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>>332978594
Even more reason for it to be explained.
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>>332978594
tips fedora
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>>332962519
>>332962259
fuck off squeenix shills, take your fag fuccboi trash and toss it in with those old atari ET games
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>>332978451
>if i use this picutre, you just got destroyed by an awesome comment of mine
Damn, that comment cut deep. I'll try not to take it personnel.
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>>332978790
AERIAL combat is an advanced concept in a casual action RPG, anon.

>>332978827
No, that's the kind of thing that people who actually play games are interested in figuring out for themselves.
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The problem with the demo is the same crap that plagues games like DMC, God of War, and Bayonetta.

>generic useless protagonist who relies on sex appeal does some flashy jumps and animations
>gameplay is boring and casual
>will probably be super cinematic and have 40 hours of cutscenes and have Xenoblade-tier annoying characters

I have no hope for this game, especially when they can't even aim for a steady 30 FPS.
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>>332963258
>They're the most arrogant and pretentious company in the industry

dont know about pretentiousness, but im sure as far as arrogance goes, EA and Actiblizz would easily give them a run for whatever money squeenix has left
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>>332978790
>calls someone a 12 year old
>can't play video games well
yeesh, maybe stick to playing games like hearthstone where skill doesn't matter? :^)
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>>332977994
So meme spouting
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>>332978369
Could you be any more casual?
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>>332979238
Shit whatever you want on this game but Bayonetta and DMC gameplay isn't boring

Hell, even fucking God of War gameplay is enjoyable.
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>>332978451
This
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>>332971070
its console garbage, so i highly doubt it
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>>332979714
>implying final fantasy xv is anything other than casual dog shit
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>>332979725

I have a hard time liking games where the sole attraction is "mash x for 5 minutes, then press a quick time event to watch a cutscene."
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>>332978790
No you literally didn't know how to play the game then came to /v/ to shitpost about it
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>>332980039
Except that Bayo and DMC aren't just mash X

Maybe if you play on easy difficulty.
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>>332979846
(You)s don't count if you give them to yourself, my man. :^)
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>>332980185
I'm not even >>332978369 man. Calm down XV-kun.
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Final Fantasy fans are too desperate and deprived to make good judgement calls on the franchise at this point.
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>Maybe if you play on easy difficulty.
Which is every difficulty if you grew up playing actually difficult games.
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>>332971863
The language of that isn't particularly convincing.
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>>332980293
wow, someone's upset that someone else agreed with me :^)
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>Play a Final Fantasy game.
>Complain that it's shit.
How have you not caught onto the pattern by now? If it's by Square-enix, it is guaranteed to be shit.
They should have chosen to die out completely rather than limp along as a shadow of their former self after that merger.
If you like a single Square-enix game, you are a cancer to the Japanese gaming industry and should kill yourself.
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>>332979238
none of the games you mentioned have generic protagonists, boring and casual gameplay and 40 hrs cutscenes, except maybe GoW
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I didn't care for it much either. Action RPGs are pretty shitty.
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I have found exclusive footage of the kids itt getting triggered by people that didn't get the shield and shuriken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2e7bX2oVlQ
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I thought it was brilliant, looked fantastic

Framerate was shit though

I understand its a tech demo and unlike /v/ I dont pretend to hate on shit to fit in
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>>332980863

I don't see how the games don't fit the descriptions.

>generic angry gruff male who hates everything and wants to kill everyone (overplayed to death and even parodied by games like Hatred)
>generic stoner laidback dude who tries to be wacky and random
>generic fanservice woman who shows her ass and tits because she's "empowered and strong and don't need no man" aka tumblr incarnate

As for whether they're cinematic or not...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1Fma5kuhes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRKCWWNgYbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7ceGZn-NH0

Pretty terrible.
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>>332981024
>Not posting the final mix version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYqFJxVuBc
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>>332961939
Good thing I like shitty games
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>>332981024
>white people
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>>332982017
>Americans
>white
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>all these butthurt pc fat tears in this tread

PRE-ORDERED
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>>332982757
But, anon, how can pc fats complain about how bad the demo is if they can't even play it? I don't think you thought this one through.
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>>332982940
>Pretending they're not just parroting negative opinions just to fit in wih le hivemind

I LOVE THIS GAME!!! SQUARE'S BACK, BABY!!!

>inb4 modern games are shit, I just play emu's on pc of games I never played as a kid

>>>/vr/
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