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Is this list still relevant?
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>Persona 3 and 4 made it in
>but Digital devil saga didn't
What is this bullshit?
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>>332959002
Well, Persona 3 is one of the best on this list
I agree on Persona 4 though
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No its just weaboo shit
Its a list of overrated rpgs
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>>332959424
No. Remove both Persona games and add SMT IV and Digital Devil Saga.
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>>332959446
Yeah, this
Now I'm going to play the superior rpgs like fallout 4 and Dragon Age
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>>332959507
Typical SMT fag
also
>SMT IV
>better than Persona 3 FES
this is bait, right?
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>>332959446
>jrpg list
>weaboo shit

Name one non weaboo JRPG.
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>>332959612
I'm not saying they're bad games, but they could be easily replaced by other superior Megaten games.
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>>332959614
Vagrant Story
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They're all shitty meme games from a shitty meme genre. Fuck off.
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>>332959614
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
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>>332959614
Dark souls
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>>332959446
>come to an anime website
>go to the anime video gaming board
>unironically hate on jrpgs

>>>/r/gaming
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>>332959741
>but they could be easily replaced by other superior Megaten games.
What the fuck are you on about?
Persona 3 FES is one of the best SMT/Megaten games
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>>332959937
He said jrpg.
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9 RPG out of 10 are TRASH. It's a FACT.
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>>332958408
>both paper mario games
>no SMRPG

Wut
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>>332960035
Dark Souls is a jrpg
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>>332960110
No it's an action RPG.
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>>332959951
>Persona 3 FES is one of the best SMT/Megaten games
Not really. The gameplay is a shittier press turn battle, the dungeons suck ass and you can't kill the characters you dislike. The music is good though.
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>>332960335
>Not really. The gameplay is a shittier press turn battle, the dungeons suck ass and you can't kill the characters you dislike.
You are either underage or a "SMT fan" who hates Persona
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>>332959941
>calling it an anime website
>only 16 weeb dedicated boards

kill youself
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>>332960421
I don't hate Persona.
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>>332960321
JRPG is a stupid broad term that means any RPG made in Japan.

Dark Souls is a JRPG, or JARPG
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>>332960458
+Pokemon
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>>332960534
You just said it sucked ass
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>>332960534
clearly
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>>332960701
I did not.
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>>332958408
It's got stuff that's important in the history of the genre but not actually very good (Xenogears, Golden Sun, Legend of Dragoon) and stuff most players don't like but has hardcore fans who swear it's the best shit ever (LoH, Star Ocean, Tales). So it's flabby, but not as terrible as some 4chan lists.
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How are the ps versions of FFVI and Chrono Trigger? It's all the shit real or it's just a /v/ meme?
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>>332958408
It's still relevant as well as flawless and definitive
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>>332958408
the platform list needs to be updated
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>>332958408

>persona games
>FFX
>Disgaea
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>>332961314
>Persona 3
>Disgaea
>Bad
Fuck off
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>>332961430

persona 3 is quite possibly one of the worst games Ive ever played

cookie-cutter turn based battles, a good part of the game is just a fucking VN with stat building, absolute GARBAGE dialogue, and terrible dungeons
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>>332960035
JRPG = RPG made in japan
Therefore, Dark Souls = JRPG
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>>332958408
No Last Remnant? For fucking shame.
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jRpg's are inferior too mobas league is the best rpg
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>>332962495
> League
> Jrpg
God league fags are retarded
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>>332958408
Calling Valkyria Chronicles an RPG is a huge stretch
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>>332962495
Being this retarded
league is a kids game right?
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>>332961652
>>332960537

JRPG is a genre title, not a term associated with the physical location in which the game was created.
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>>332960110
Dark Souls is not an RPG, it is casualised.
Also fuck weeb games
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>>332962495
League is not an rpg
its horse shit
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>>332960864
Oh, so what you're saying is, "I'm a butthurt SMTfag who only likes P1 and 2 because they're JUST LIKE MAI SMT."
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>>332960563
Pokemon isn't weeb. Neither is Torrents or Papercraft.
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>>332960335
>you can't kill the characters you dislike

>I can't do exactly what I want in this game so people should not play it
Fuck off
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>>332963030
>Pokemon isn't weeb
I thought anime=weeb
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>>332962849
Then what makes an RPG a JRPG? Having anime characters? That is retarded
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>>332963149
That isn't what it means at all you dumb nigger.
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i dont know how anyone can enjoy P3/P4 or even call them RPGs.

is a boring generic endless dungeon combined with zero depth turn based combat become an RPG just because you spend 80% of the game talking to inanimate objects?
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>>332963174

You should be able to look at the OPs image and use your brain to figure out what those games have in common and how Dark Souls is a completely different style of game.
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>>332963241
Then what does it mean
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>>332963283
waifus
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>>332961592
>cookie-cutter turn based battles
Yet they are more advanced than many of the other titles in OPs list. Many of which you can just mash X in to beat most fights, including bosses.
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>>332960039
You could replace RPG with any genre and it would still be correct.
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>>332963283
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>>332963359
>expecting to be spoonfed
>not knowing what a weeb is

How new can you possibly be? Lurk for 2 years before posting.
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>>332958408

I've played every game on that list. Can't think of any that I'd consider bad.
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>>332963592
I think just people have different meaning on what weeb means.
2 years ago you were a weeb for watching anime
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>>332963592
>muh spoonfeeding
>muh secret club
What's how you spot the new.
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>>332963716
The actual meaning is a synonym for "wapanese". They used to have a wordfilter that would change "wapanese" into "weeaboo" and it stuck.
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>Paper Mario is a JRPG!
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>>332963939
>rpg made in japan
Yes it is a a jrpg
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>>332963386

>Persona
>advanced combat
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>>332963939
>>332964187
>Fedora and frog poster
Hey buddy, i think you got the wrong door, reddit is two blocks down
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>>332963021
No, I'm just saying "these games are not that good, not essential at all and should be replaced with better games instead", now calm down you little bitch, go hug your Aigis daki or something.
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>>332964336
More advanced doesn't mean advanced necessarily you fucking mongoloid. It's more advanced than "Mash X", which doesn't say much.
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>>332964595
And somehow these "better jrpg games" are SMT games
Fuck off you SMT fag
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>>332958408
why don't you ask /vg/?
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>>332960039
>My opinions are facts because I say so.
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>>332964771
It'd be rude to take two Megaten spots and give it to another series.
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>>332958408
>final fantasy 8 and 10
Just WHY?!
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>>332958408
That list is just the level entry JRPGs mixed with some "obscure" good ones, is decent enough for people who only had played FF7 and X
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>>332961019
They're ok.
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>>332965005
I can't tell if you are trolling or serious
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>>332958408
>no Etrian Odyssey
>no Sting games
No.
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>no Phantasy Star IV
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>>332965194
>>no Etrian Odyssey
Geeeeee, i wonder why
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>>332963386
>Persona 3 combat
>anywhere near as good as anything on that list

Even Persona 4 was better. Persona 3 fags piss me off so much holy fuck, how do you live with yourselves pulling the same mental gymnastics over and over to defend your shitty game?

The dungeons are tedious, the battles (assuming we're talking about FES here) are a fucking AI crapshoot (and don't give me that "TACTICS!" bullshit, that's merely a broad command suited to one of any few actions the AI could arbitrarily decide to execute at any given time, which pales in comparison to games with direct party control), the story and characters were ANIME BULLSHIT despite /v/ insisting P3 is some kind of break from the norm in those departments (sorely fucking mistaken).

Seriously, fuck Persona 3. And fuck you if you actually think it's "advanced".
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>>332965182
How do you mean?
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>>332965335
>the game is bad because i think it's bad
ok buddy :^)
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>>332965293
Why?
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>>332962849
>JRPG is a genre title, not a term associated with the physical location in which the game was created.
Gee, I wonder what the "J" in "JRPG" stands for.

>>332963325
They're mostly turn-based RPGs, a few SRPGs and a couple of ARPGs.
Dark Souls is an ARPG, but it falls under the global term of JRPG.
JRPG has been, and always will be, an idiotic way of classifying a game.
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>>332965201

This

Also
>No Resonance of Fate
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>>332965335
Why are you so aggressive over people liking a game you don't like?

>And fuck you if you actually think it's "advanced".
You aren't very good at this reading comprehension thing are you?
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>>332961019
Are ok, both have cutscenes but also loading screens, loading screens for SNES games are a deal breaker for a lot of people.
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>>332965550
>>No Resonance of Fate
Is the game good?
I have it on my shelf.
Bought it 2 years ago but haven't played it
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>>332958408
It should literally just be all the SMT games
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>>332965485
People use JRPG because RPGs from Japan have a very certain style about them that sets them apart from western RPGs. Many RPGs from Japan don't follow that formula and therefore I would hesitate to use the JRPG genre tag to describe them. Dark Souls could arguably be called an Action RPG, but has nothing in common with the style of game people associate with JRPGs.
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Is there more jrpg's for X360?
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>>332965756

It's really good, but you have to play it not like a braindead JRPG.

It's a game that can be completed in 20 hours with a completionist run of 40 hours, but has a howlongtobeat of 40 hours with a completionist of 80.

If you're grinding in that game, you're doing it wrong. Grinding has 0 use other than to make sure you can dual wield, which, if you're leveling your character correctly, shouldn't be a problem by the time you have the guns to dual wield. The game wants you to think about each fight differently, and to always be learning. DEFINITELY take the tutorial, but don't think the tutorial is going to tell you how to use the battle system.

Also, don't fall back on triattacks. They're much better for healing than actual attacking. They're a waste of time for attacking.
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>>332965938
I've noticed a lot of Japanese RPGs tend to me more story-focused, with little-to-no choice on stat distribution, whereas western RPGs focus on character progression and freedom of choice*.
*Newer western RPGs need not apply

I have yet to play a JRPG that doesn't involve you saving the world, though.
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>>332958408

>Must Play:

-Chrono Trigger
-Dragon Quest V
-Dragon Quest VIII
-Earthbound
-Final Fantasy VI
-Final Fantasy VII
-Final Fantasy Tactics
-Fire Emblem
-Golden Sun
-Mother 3
-Paper Mario
-Paper Mario: TTYD
-Skies of Arcadia
-SMT Nocturne
-Persona 3
-Persona 4
-Suikoden II
-Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together
-Valkyria Chronicles
-Valkyrie Profile
-Xenoblade Chronicles

>If you have nothing else:

-Chrono Cross
-Final Fantasy IV
-Final Fantasy V
-Final Fantasy VIII
-Final Fantasy IX
-Final Fantasy X
-Final Fantasy XII
-Grandia
-The Legend of Dragoon
-Lost Odyssey
-Lunar
-Nier
-Radiant Historia
-SMT Devil Survivor
-Star Ocean 2
-The World Ends With You
-Xenogears (because translation/second half)

>Not worth it:

-Disgaea (too much of a time sink, will socially retard you)
-Kingdom Hearts (what are you, 12/gay?)
-LOH: Trails in the Sky (Nothing happens: The Wall of Text)
-Star Ocean 3 (pants on head retarded plot)
-Tales of Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia
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>>332966656
>>If you have nothing else:
>-The World Ends With You
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>>332966656
>Paper Mario in must play
>Radiant Historia and TWEWY in if you have nothing else
Fuck you mate.
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>>332966656
>Disgaea (too much of a time sink, will socially retard you)

>implying people aren't playing such games to escape the reality
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>>332966501
Yeah personally I wouldn't call JRPGs roleplaying games at all, but that's the term they used back in the day to describe their games so that's what stuck so nothing we can do about it. Same with MOBAs now.
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>>332966773
>Nomura
Yeah, it should be dropped to not worth it.
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>>332967032
>Yeah personally I wouldn't call JRPGs roleplaying games at all
Curious as to what you would call them.
"Visual novel with turn-based combat"?
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>>332958408
why are there objectively bad final fantasy games on there
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>>332962495
>my first day on vee
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>>332966773
>>332966869
Radiant Historia is a good, but not an essential JRPG.
TWEWY is sort of the hot topic of JRPGs. It's a fine game, yet something you wouldn't be caught playing or talking about.

>>332967004
Not to that extent. I'd like to have some reality left to go with my autism.
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>>332967202
If I got to choose I would probably pick "Turn Based Adventure Games".

Speaking of which, I dislike that "Adventure games" are point-and-click games because they coined the phrase first but many other games fit the term better now.
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>Mfw yet to play a single JRPG
Recommend me some JRPGs with good gameplay, not gorillion hours long and progressing through the story doesn't require grinding.
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>>332961670
This. It isn't for everyone but I love that game.
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>>332958408
>Nier
>RPG
I don't think I would've liked it as much if it was one.
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>>332967032
Most jRPGs are pure turn-based tactics gameplay-wise. The closest western example would be XCOM, which no one's calling an RPG.
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>>332967524
A short JRPG is not really what you want if you actually wanna play a good JRPG.

And what is "good gameplay" to you? If you dislike standard turn based combat I guess you could try The World Ends With You, it's very unique and not too long, but it's not a very good introduction to JRPGs because of how unique it is.
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>>332958408
>Star Ocean 3

kek.
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>>332967524
You fine with 16-bit gaming?
Chrono Trigger.

Want something a little more recent?
Skies of Arcadia.
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I don't think I'd recommend FF8 to anyone ever but other than that it's alright.
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>>332967838
Yeah that's one of my arguments, and the fact that most JRPGS have no actual ROLEPLAYING elements. Following a linear story with pre-determined characters without any dialogue choices or branching story paths is not roleplaying to me.
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>>332967960
>Skies of Arcadia.
As much as I love that game, I would never recommend that to someone who wants to get into the genre and specifically requests "not too long and has good gameplay". The combat in SoA is just awful really and the encounter rate would make him never want to touch another JRPG.
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>>332967524
Growlanser 2.
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>>332959002
Truly the forgotten Megaten.
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>>332968317
I agree with the encounter rate in vanilla SoA, but the GameCube version sort of remedied that. But the combat is fun and it isn't overly long compared to most JRPGs. And whatever other faults it might have, its charms and setting is likely to win most people over.
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>>332959424
>implying Persona 4 isn't an improvement on P3 in every single possible way
I want the P3 meme to end
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>>332968617
>GameCube version sort of remedied that
>the combat is fun
>it isn't overly long
I respect your opinion, but I disagree.
Still one of my personal favorite JRPGs though.
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>>332968743
And i want the Scooby doo adventures 4 is good meme to end
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>>332968743
This.

>Batman vs Superman
>Pepsi vs Coke
>Orange vs Lemon-Lime

What happened to being able to like both?
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>>332967524
Mother 3, Paper Mario, or Chrono Trigger is what you're looking for.

I personally recommend Mother 3
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>>332969102
>liking pepsi and superman
Fuck off
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>>332969064
>Preferring Stardust Crusaders to Diamond is Unbreakable
Now that's shit taste
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This list was never good.
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>>332960104
This.

The game is great.
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>>332960458
>flash
>transportation
>torrents
I wouldn't consider papercraft Jap either, but whatever. You're a retard.
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>>332969874
>Sigma Star Saga
>JRPG
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>>332969874
Garbage list.
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>>332959507
Don't do that. Digital Devil Saga was abysmal.
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Pick which JRPG I should finish.

http://strawpoll.me/7262577
http://strawpoll.me/7262577
http://strawpoll.me/7262577
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>Golden Sun included
>Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals not included

That list is 100% garbage for those choices alone.
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>>332960458
>transportation

Is that really even weeb?

>including torrents in your circle

That is NOT a weeb board.
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>>332971595
Just gonna put this out there so you don't have to waste your time with that awful game: Bravely Default has you repeat the same scenario FOUR TIMES. That is the entire game, you repeat the same even over and over because that's what the story is about. There is a decent payoff at the end if you actually do it, but it sure as hell isn't worth it.

Also you repeat the same bosses over and over, except that they group up in the later phases of the game to make "new" boss encounters.

The class system and music are the only redeemable points about BD.
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>>332972128
I'm not sure what you mean by repeating the same scenario? Like I get the story is about awakening four crystals so obviously that's what is going to happen.

Do you have to awaken all four of them a second time or is it just one time.
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>>332972440
kek
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>>332972440
You go on a quest to awaken crystals, and when you do the timeline resets. So the party says "oh time reset. I guess we have to do it all over again." So they do it again, 3 more times. The same enviroments again, the same bosses, almost everything is the same but sort of warped later in the game.
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>>332972737
Holy fuck. You're kidding.
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>>332958408
>Recommends FFVII
Into the trash it goes
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>>332972871
I really wish I was. I spent 100 hours on that game, and that was all there was to it. All that tedium and repetition for a decent punchline at the end. I would not recommend that game to ANYONE.
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>>332960458
Those 17 video game boards sure look great.
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>>332973064
This is the only time I've been legitimately mad at /v/ over their opinions, when they say bravely default was a good polished game.
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>>332959614
>Name one non weaboo JRPG.
All of them, retard. Weaboo isn't a synonym for Japanese.
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>>332958408
Okay gonna try one of this anime RPGs

Tales of Zestiria, Dragon Quest Heroes, Disgaea, Valkyria Chronicles or Tales of Symphonia?

Would like one with heavy customization in terms of equip and party.
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>>332973621
We all wanted it to be the glorious return of classic JRPGs, but it just wasn't. The first few hours were glorious though when none of the repeated timeline bullshit had started yet.
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>jrpg
>anime faggotry video games being 'recommended' in any pretense
zozzle
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>>332973920
Valkyria Chronicles is a strategy game with next to no RPG mechanics. I have no idea why people would say that it's an RPG.
>B-but you can kinda level up the classes after battles!
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>>332974115
But how good is the game? Seems like WWII so is a nice and different setting.
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>>332958408
>FFVIII
>Nier
>Lost Odyssey

the rest is great tho
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>>332974030
Welcome, you seem to be confused as to where you are! You are on the website 4chan.org, created by Christopher Poole as a means of otakus (weeaboos) to discuss subjects with other otakus. Have no fear though, reddit.com is neutral and isn't aimed towards a demographic, /r/gaming might be more your speed.

No need to thank me, just your friendly neighborhood anonymous keeping the streets clean.
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>>332959614
Child of Light
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>>332974337
The game is fantastic, I didn't want the game to end.

Shame about the sequels though.
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>>332974668
Wait the game is from 2014, it as already sequels?
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>>332972871
You can get the true ending in 2 or 3 hours after the first loop or just beat the first boss after the first loop, break one of the crystals and get the normal ending.
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WHAT
THE
FUCK
ARE
SOME
GOOD
PS1
JRPGS
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>>332974847
>the game is from 2014
Nope
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>>332975112
>>332958408
>>332969874
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