What went wrong?
>>332949642
too easy game
Dead in PC Bangs and everyone was expecting RO instead of Diablo
Jews
>>332949642
BRs
Too grindy for its own good.
When the grind kicks in at level 25 in a 300-500 level game, you've fucked up ROYALLY
>>332950957
They really dont understand people wanted to try this game for the class system
But it takes like 30 hours to even get to tier 3 classes
>>332949642
They had absolutely no understanding of what was good about RO.
>Tree of Savior is an MMORPG
That's where.
>>332949642
nostalgia mmorpg
I dont get why people complain that this game is too "grindy", you guys forget how fucking tedious was leveling up on clasic ro?, you had to kill mobs for 5 days straight to level up.
>>332949642
clueless fanboys with the all-faithful "it will be good" chant. the koreans know better.
>>332951397
and most of them are garbage.
>"but it's okay, not everything must be good. variety."
>>332949642
People thought it was going to be the spiritual successor to RO.
BDO is better
>>332952973
>That pic
They look like children what the hell
>>332955092
>>332952973
She has a dick right?
>>332955076
>better
I can't say it's better. Slightly more than average would be a better statement.
>>332955092
Oh look, anons first day after the he saw the hilarious events of the 1st April on reddit.
>no trade for free players, token players ($18 a month) can trade only with other token players and limited to 30 times/month
>can only list one item if free, 5 if token on marketplace, takes 48 hours to receive money after item sells
>items placed on MP appear 30 minutes - 2 hours on confirmation, it's a feature and you also lose 30% as tax
>no team storage if free, token gets one slot. One fucking slot.
>can't transfer money between characters
>monster respawn times increased a lot, can't grind in a korean grind MMO what
>laggy as fuck servers
>bugged dungeons
Just a few things I have experienced firsthand, I'm sure there a lot more issues.
>>332955310
>the 1st April on reddit
Something happened?
BRs
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with it I haven't played it I have to wait until it goes F2P.
>>332949642
People not trusting nexon and IMC publishing it.
Tokens.
Worse grind then pre bang maple story
Worst release in general ''teasing'' a free to play model and basically creating a single player experience where everyone steals your kills
Overall i cant understand why the game has 20000 fucking people playing.
>>332951397
Pretty much this, I really wanted to do cool builds but there's no info on them, most suck, you can't have all skills and you can't reset your build. So fuck that I ain't griding a million hours to get some gimped character and have to start again.
>>332955640
America, Mexico, Canada and Alaska are 30% of the total population.
Brazil is the other 30%.
Rest is europe+Asia.
Played it for around 16 hours and I am at level 36. I'm actually enjoying it quite a bit and havent had to grind at all thusfar. Not sure exactly what has people so mad.
>>332955568
>not trusting NEXON
Enjoy your shitty RO spiritual successor dead in 2 years.
>>332956073
Just casuals who are used to WoW's hitting level cap in a day model.
How can you make a MMO in 2016 and release it with less cities and a less open world than something like WoW or RO more than a decade ago.
MMO worlds are actually getting smaller for some fucking reason. And it doesnt even lead to superior focused design. Its just less and thats it.
>>332955076
Seriously
I wanted to try both since forever, I played ToS for like 3 hours then just went back to BDO goodness
>>332956228
But i will be able to enjoy it for those 2 years.
Nexon can be jews but they sure know how publish and manage games.
IMC went full retarded and tried to jew it right from the start.
>>332956073
>>332956229
>anime image
>>332956441
>>332955878
>want to do cool build
>can't make a cool build without being spoonfed a cookie cutter build
Kill yourself retard
>>332956697
>cant tell if the class even works
>put in hundreds of hours
>find out its useless
>all the time wasted
Game is designed by retards.
Either speed the leveling process up like in some DIablo type of game if you want people to experiment or give them an option to respec.
I dont mind grinding. What I hated about the game was the cooldown times and the lack of useful skills. I was using the same skill since lvl 1 and had to wait 50 seconds to use it again...
>>332949642
Shit class system
Shit skill system
Shit balance
Shit maps
Shit stat system
Music doesn't come any close to the comfy RO soundtrack
>tl;dr: developers are retarded
>>332950354
RO was heavily inspired by Diablo. And expecting RO is fair considering it was called Project R1 for years.
>>332955527
It's not really f2p.
If you don't buy the premium token monthly you are extremely limited, it's more like a demo.
>>332950354
RO was better at being diablo than this.
RO was always a much superior Diablo with a hundred times the content and a non garbage artstyle.
>>332956892
>speed leveling process up
>game hasn't been out for a week and people are already over level 100
Git gud
>>332952778
What made RO good?
>>332957276
Not being ToS
>>332957220
You forgot a class/stat system that actually incentivized some variety. Why on 2016 developers still insist on garbage such as "strenght/dex/int/vit" is beyond me.
>>332957276
Developers didn't gave a shit about certain classes being crazy overpowered in some areas, that allowed for a LOT of diversity in terms of build.
>>332957556
>shitting on stats
>stats were a huge part of RO builds
>>332956314
I mean if this leads to Dot Hack with
>Comfy as fuck hub town
>Portal to dungeon fields with keywords
Minimalist but fun enough to playsolo? I'm down.
Less grind than ToS too.
>>332955430
>Can't even play the trade / jew minigame that appears in every MMO to date
At least I can try to have fun in DFO that way.
>>332957727
I'm shitting on basic shit, such ad D2, torchligh 2 or ToS stat system. RO had the best one and was ONLY game with a good stat system.
>>332957276
World design for one.
Rather than following one linear path to max level from the bottom left corner of the map to the upper right you actually had multiple city hubs and level areas to visit.
Enemy design felt much more varied too, which allowed certain classes to prefer specific leveling areas.
At any given time you had at the very least three different zones to level up in.
It was always nice to go down a dungeon and see how far you could make it before you get stomped/your resources run out.
Some shit like Glastheim was really complex and cool too.
The quests were fucking garbage, but they were also rare so you wouldnt have to put up with that shit all that often.
>>332957556
str dex int vit was all RO shit. really essential too.
>>332957879
Basic shit is still better than nothing. I'll take D2's stats over D3 that doesn't have any. Instead of adding more options they just removed stats entirely.
Shit mouse control.
There are even classes that become completely unplayable with it.
>>332950957
>When the grind kicks in at level 25
>>332958095
>Basic shit is still better than nothing.
Sure but that's like saying "even if it's contaminated with aids piped water is still better than no water at all". Both no stat system and braindead stats shouldn't be accepted by people anymore, not when a fucking old game did better.
People going on about grind haven't really played much. Zero grinding only doing quests has led me to level 110. (they don't really stop after a questline finishes, you just need to find the next maps)
The issue is that it's basically a single-player game and all the MMO aspects like dungeon instances and crafting feel like an afterthought.
>>332949642
Cash shop that makes BDO look fair.
Game turned into a theme park whereas RO was always more of a sandbox.
Character balance and damage calculation are fucked.
Way too much hype and advertising to pander to nostalgia, leading people to get the wrong impression.
>Complaining about grinding
Because you are doing it wrong, you are supposed to grind with friends.
>>332950957
>When the grind kicks in at level 25
>>332958619
>quests give experience
Unacceptable.
>>332950957
>grinding at 25
How did you fuck up THAT badly?
>>332949642
Koreans doing what they do best.
>>332958040
>str dex int vit was all RO shit. really essential too.
Yeah but it really didn't work like on other MMos, Dex for example reduced casting time and there as NO cooldown even for crazy skills such as azura's strike.
Besides, tell me a game where you can directly influence your attack speed using the stat system, or a game with crafting classes that need a fucking party to level up, or a game with a stat as crazy as luck.
