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God tier;
>Xbone elite

Top tier:
>Xbone
>wii u pro

Mid tier:
>Steam controller

Poo tier:
>Ds4
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Why is the Ds4 not in top tier?
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>>332948613

>from a Xbone fan boys point of view
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Ds4 is amazing is this bait
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>>332948613
Xbone has fucking horrific LB/RB buttons.

360 = DS4 > Wii U pro > Xbone >>>>>>>> Steam
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>>332949043
>>332949104
>>332949223
Unironically liking ds4
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i swear to GOD if i dont get a gf in the next 5 years im gonna start sucking dicks
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>ULTIMATE GOD TIER
Xbox 360

>Not 360 tier
everything else

nothing will ever beat the 360 controller
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>>332949423
this, you can't really fix perfection
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>>332949423
>>332949581
>perfection
>worst d-pad ever put on a controller
Leave, underage.
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>>332949581
but you can give it a better dpad
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>>332949423
Anything without a dogshit dpad automatically beats the 360 controller.
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>>332949581
Steam controller is better.

t. masterrace
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>2D gaming elder god holy shit are 3D gaming controllers even trying?
Sega Satarn
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>>332948613
Never liked the xbox layout, even when they first launched the Xbox.

I still remember wondering wtf were they thinking when they made that abomination.
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>>332948613
>Steam controller not shit tier
>DS4 not top tier
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>>332949640
>>332949715
>if my dpad isn't a clacky piece of shit that cuts your finger tips it sucks!

360 dpad is probably the best one in history.
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>>332949728
I've never gotten the chance to try this, is it really good to play something like GTA V or any shooters?
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>>332949919
>360 dpad is probably the best one in history.
Not nearly subtle enough to hook anyone.
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>>332949816
>xbox layout
You mean the logical layout?
Sony's symmetrical layout is a product of being lazy and just slapping a pair of sticks onto the existing controller without changing anything else.
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>microsoft literally had to make an upgraded version of the xbone controller to compete with DS4
>It's still shit

and no, I don't mean the elite controller.
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>>332948613
I believe you are in the wrong, my friend. The only input devices worthy of God tier title are trusty keyboard and mouse :)
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>>332949945
Remember Arcade trackballs? It's kinda like that mixed with a laptop pad
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>true elder god tier
DS3

shortcomings aside, it's the most responsive controller I've ever played with, as well as one of the most sturdy. Not one button or part is designed so terrible to utterly deny them functionality. Meanwhile, while I prefer the 360 formfactor, it has

>shit dpad
>awful bumpers
>so-so digital facebuttons
>cross-eyed analog stick placement, of which its so-called benefits have never been proven, nor have I found it any better than a symmetrical layout
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Nigger, what the fuck are you doing tier:

>KB+m
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>only controller that can be recharged
>bluetooth so I can easily hook it up to my pc
>big and comfy
I dont get why you guys dont like the DS4
probably because of all the Mustard Race fags who need to do their holy autism crusade against Sonyggers
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>>332948613
>Wii U Pro on par with Xbone

>Digital Triggers
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>>332948613

God tier;
>Mouse and Keyboard
>Duelshock 4

Top tier:
>wii u pro

Mid tier:
>Xbone

Poo tier:
>Steam controller
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Whoever came up with the DS3 l2/r2 triggers should be publicly hanged.

Does anyone actually like these pieces of shit? They are somehow worse than the gamecube controller triggers.
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>>332950047
Sony's layout always made sense.

They only made that abomination because they couldn't copy Sony. It's shit and it was shit from the first time it launched.
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>>332950069
That filenames tho
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>>332950305
They are the worst part about ds3, i mean even shooters used r1 l1 instead of the triggers because they where so terrible
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>>332950152

>DS3
>Elder God

>Sloping L2+R2 which causes your fingers to slip off
>Domed thumbsticks your thumbs slip off
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>>332950128
Trackballs are the bees knees for specific things.
But who the fuck thought it would be a good idea emulating that feeling for an all purpose controller?
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I really want to like the steam controller, but it seems like a pain in the ass to set up for games that don't have community configs already.
That and you can only use it with games launched through steam.
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>>332950529
>Sloping L2+R2 which causes your fingers to slip off
you don't use the triggers for shooters and use the R1/L1 buttons, like it was intended

you use em for riding/ racing

>Domed thumbsticks your thumbs slip off
stop being a literal retard
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A lot of people argue about symmetrical and asymmetrical design but I don't really notice and never have problems going between the two.
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>>332950274
Digital triggers are better for everything but driving games.
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>>332950243
>controller that can be recharged
>easily hook it up to my pc
>big and comfy
DURRR
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>>332950243
Being able to use the touch pad to control the mouse is nice too.
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>>332950335
>because they couldn't copy Sony
More like because Sony couldn't copy Sega.
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>>332950682
>you don't use the triggers for shooters
What kind of fucking retard are you?
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i'ma give the truest fucking fact in this thread right now that absolutely no one can disagree with.

the DS4 with the 360's triggers would bt the GOAT controller.
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>>332949383
I mean it's okay. It's certainly better than steam controller.
Wii u pro is maybe a bit worse depending on preference.
360 is pretty good. I think it's better than xbone but eh.

Although I've been using PlayStation controllers mainly for a while now, so I'm used to em
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>>332949383

Did I say I liked the DS4 no just it's very biased to the Xbone
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>>332950682

>fingers slipping off sloped triggers is perfectly understandable
>thumbs slipping off domed sticks is literal retard

Is that extra chromosome burdening you anon?
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posting worst controller
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>>332950853
>using DS3 triggers in shooters

I should ask you the same
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YOU WILL NEVER GET:
>a controller the shape of a DS4
>same material as a DS3
>weight of a 360 controller
>trigger shapes of a 360 controller
>analog stick of a 360 controller
>buttons of a wii u pro controller
>dpad of a DS4 controller

;___;
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>>332950998
It's only bad if you're too retarded to use it.
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>>332948978
Speaking as someone who uses one for his PC, it's not the best controller I've ever used. The shoulder buttons are stickier than I'd like and the rubber on the right joystick is already coming off.
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>>332950530
I must be in the minority. I really like my steam controller.

Oh well. Great thing is that people can use whatever they want
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Steam Controller owner here. Awful, awful thing, but it's so goofy that we feel the need to adapt to it and try and claim superiority over the masses.

If you see a Steam Controller rated highly, it's someone who's cucked themselves into buying one.
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>>332948613

ds4 is great. in the past i've used xbox 360 controller for stuff like dark souls on my PC, but the dpad is fucking dogshit.
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The Xbone controller is probably my favorite controller since it basically is a 360 controller but a bit lighter and with a better D-Pad.

I don't like DS3 or DS4 - they feel terrible for anything that aren't slow-pased JRPGs because the triggers are fuckawful marshmallows.
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What's so great about the 360 controller? It's uncomfortably bulky and it looks like shit compared to literally any PS controller.
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>>332950998

>he doesn't have 3 arms
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>>332950295
this pham
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>>332951127
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>>332949423
Modified gamecube with second bumper beats it for action games 2bh.
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>>332951296
It doesn't have clicky sticks.
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>no one makes clear controllers anymore
why
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>>332949945
It's good for Steam,but it falls apart with non-Steam games. GTA V non steam is especially buggy.
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>>332951246
>uncomfortably bulky

Manlet or small child detected.
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>>332950989
>thumbs slipping off domed sticks is literal retard

here's the thing, retard; triggers fucking suck in shooters

digital buttons are more responsive

the bumpers on the 360 are worse than a licking a hobo's tainted asshole, so they were forced to make use of the triggers, but it's a retarded option to use when you have well-designed shoulder buttons, which what the DS1-3 controller's shoulder buttons were
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@332948613

1/10

you dont even deserve a (you)
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>>332951127
Sorry pal, the n64 controller did suck
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>>332951127
Is it retarded to only have 2 hands?
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>>332949919
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>>332951246
>It's uncomfortably bulky

what?
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I get that Sony want to keep the DualShock controller because it's recognisable and shit but really they should have just went with a different design for the PS4 that accomodates the touch pad and that much better
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>>332951127
it has nothing to do with intelligence anon, thats just a shit controller.
i remember reading somewhere that japs dont like have an extra stick for looking around, which explains the horrid middle stick with a fucking prong designed to block your hand. that fucking controller ruined the n64 for me
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>>332949419
You mean keep suckin dicks?

That's why we're all here right?
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>>332950530
There's tactical feedback, so it's not just a trackpad.
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>>332951416

If you think 360 triggers are bad for shooters then you're a literal retard UwU :3
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>>332951384
My wife uses a 360 controller and she's 5'2 with small hands. I've never heard her complain
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>>332951367
Still the only modern style controller to have a button layout designed around playing games over looking symmetrical and pretty. It beats out every other controller for games that don't require the 3 buttons it doesn't have.
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A real controller for real men.
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>>332949919
Sorry I like having the choice to not move diagonally.
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>>332951416
Fuck off
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>>332949919
>>332949715
>>332949640
>>332949714

>playing dark souls
>fighting manus
>he's doing magic attack, better get my pendant out
>shitty dpad thinks i clicked left
>by by shield
>chug flask instead of instead of using pendant since it didn't register me pressing down
>killed in one shot by magic

GEE THANKS MICROSHIT
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>>332951618
Four buttons.
The d-pad isn't that great either.
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>>332951636
>for Bigfoot
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>>332951416
I don't agree with you, I never had a problem with the triggers or the bumpers in the 360 controller, but the elite option to be able to put a physical stop to the triggers make's it absolutely perfect.
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>>332951613
What about your wife's son?
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>>332951668
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>>332951668
>being so fat you have sausage fingers

Fitting for a sonygger I guess.
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>>332950295
I'm ok with this list, I've never used a Steam pad though but they look awful
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>>332948613
shit tier taste confirmed
ps4 is the best on that list with wii u and xbone being the exact same.
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>>332948613

>DS4 bottom tier

shit taste

>fucking WiiU pad top tier

pffffffffhahaha
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>>332951636
nah 360 is still better
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>>332951667

I rest my fucking case
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>>332951636
>6 face buttons
Perfect. All it needed was a pair of bumpers and a better d-pad.
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>>332951668
Literally, you just suck
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>>332948613
literally the only problem in the DS4's design are the flimsy materials
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>>332951668
your fault for playing garbage games
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>It's a "that's not on my console" thread

In terms of it being on PC, which is the only thing that matters its;

God tier;
>Xbox 360

Top tier:
>Xbone elite

Mid tier:
>Steam controller

Poo tier:
>Ds4


Steam controller has mouse support but is just too hard to use and makes zero sense.
Dd4 just doesn't work fullstop when it comes to most games.

360 will always be the best.
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Is there any good 3rd party version of the WiiU Pro Controller? How compatible are they with PC?
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>>332949945
It's such a huge piece of shit, I'm legit sad I was ever hyped for it.
Fucking feels like some cheap chinese knock-off controller.
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>>332951379
They're clear, just don't drop one.
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>>332952131
DS4 works for me with literally any game
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>>332949728
Literally the shittiest controller.
I've tried them all, and although I have my preferences and ones i don't like, it doesn't take much to get used to any of them, even if some take more time than others.
But this controller...it sucks, everything is all over the place, and is the only controller that makes my hands physically hurt after 30-40 minutes.
Since dual analog sticks are a thing, i've always preferred the symmetrical design, but as far as asymmetrical design goes, the Xbox design is the way to go, literally perfect...the steam controller is the exact opposite, both physically and conceptually.
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>>332952132
The Pro Controller can work on the Steam Link so I think it's more of a software thing than hardware.

Maybe someone could come up with a mod that let's you use them.
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>bought an xbone controller when I have a perfectly good 360 controller
>bumpers hard to actuate or keep pressed down, have to relearn how to hold it
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>>332952131
DS4 not working on most games isn't the controllers fault anon, its the devs. If the DS4 had the same universal support as the 360 controller did, we both know it'd be top tier
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>>332952290
dude how

i used a 360 controller for literal years and didn't have any trouble picking up a one

they're the same controller only the one is lighter and ever so slilghtly smaller
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>>332948613

>being this upset the DS4 is the best

Seriously. It has Bluetooth for easy PC pairing, it's comfy, it's design is perfect for both 2D and 3D games unlike Xbone controllers, amazing dpad; the only reason this thread was made was to confirm that the DS4 controller was the pinnacle.

Steam controller is a hunk of shit, the Wii U Pro controller has digital triggers meaning it's worthless for anything racing, and the Xbone/360 controller are only good for 3D games and absolute shit for 2D.

The DS4 does everything those controllers do and more.
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>>332952210
are the Rock Candy controllers actually good for basic playing?
kinda want to get another controller for PC games and they seem fairly cheap
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>>332949223
Here we can observe the "I have never used the Wii U Pro Controller" type poster.

No way is it worse than a 360 or a fucking DS4 of all controllers.
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>>332949383
Been a sonypony all my life, only owned the first xbox, on which I only played halo and halo 2, but the xbone controller hands down is the best one out there. I use one for my PC.
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Bone > 360 > Wii U >>> DS4 >>>>>>>> Steam

Xbone bumpers are fine now, but I never had a problem with them in the first place. Never used a Pro controller, just the gamepad.
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>>332951379
I just had this bad boy shipped to my house with DOAX3

the back is solid white tho yuck!
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Steam controller is superior for Euro/American Truck simulator and Farming simulator but kinda meh for anything that needs a right stick.
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>>332949581
>shittiest D-Pad in existence
>Obtrusive annoying battery pack location
>sticks lose crispness and get squeaky over time

Only real flaws. Still good but the XBO elite outdoes it.
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>>332952376

Didn't rest my index fingers flat along the bumpers. Taking a few days to get accustomed to that but I'll get over it
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>>332952626
where did you buy it?
i want to buy one but most places have it for like 70-100€
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>>332948613
That's okay. My DS4 plays bloodborne and that's all I ask of it.
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>>332952661
>using wireless
It's not 2004 anymore, the gimmick has worn off.
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>>332952131

>open DS4Windows
>DS4 works with any game that requires Xinput

that was hard
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>>332950696
IS THAT AN ACTUAL D-PAD ON A 360 CONTROLLER!?

Pls respond
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>>332949728
Biggest failure I'd ever been excited for.
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>>332952834

It's the last kind that you could twist the Dpad for and have it switch between the disc and the actual dpad. Still sucked dick.
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God Hand tier
>Wii U Pro controller
>Xbox Elite

God tier
>360
>Dualshock 2

Mid tier
>Dualshock 3

Shit tier
>Dualshock 4

Corkus tier
>Steam controller
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The DS4 thumbsticks are better than the Xbone
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>>332948613
asymmetric sticks make my thumbs hurt so I prefer the DS4

it's not as good as the DS3 though
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>>332952405
They're honestly not bad for the price. They just feel really light and flimsy. Room mate broke the L2 on his PS3 controller, not sure how that happened.

I chucked one at a wall while playing had games and it exploded, but hey they're like 8 bucks so fuck it!
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If the DS4's thumbsticks were set lower/deeper into the frame of the controller (possibly requiring everything else to shift), it would be the perfect controller layout. Only fat people holding it improperly would have problems.

Still, the loss of multi-stage pressure sensitive buttons and the squishy triggers does hold it back. The Microsoft layout can still be said to be better for games that primarily use the left analog and right face buttons in a 3D environment with only minimal camera adjustment during gameplay, but such games are really rare.
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>>332949945
It's so light, the plastic and the entire thing feels so cheap. Small buttons, Dpad is useless and taking out the batteries is a pain. The only positive is button remapping
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>>332949728
T. Gyromite
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>>332949383
when did the DS4 is bad meme start?

I bought one to replace my 360 pad for PC vidya and its pretty good
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Xbone>Wii U>360>Steam>DS4
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>>332952758
>wireless
>gimmick
Do you honestly enjoy making everything else shitty and a hassle to achieve such a slight difference in input lag it's not even perceivable? Or are you so bad at vidya "even the slightest advantage" is required for you play?
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>>332949945
Probably the best controller ever for shooters, if you don't mind fucking about with configurations since the number of games that have built-in SC support can be counted on 2 hands.
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>>332952929
Fuck, I raised my hopes for nothing.

Thanks for responding though.
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>>332948613
I fucking love the steam controller. The functionality alone puts it leagues above everything else. It's not quire as comfortable as the DS4 but I still put it above it just because of the pads and grips.
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>>332951296
any pics of said modification?
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>>332951706
Not counting select
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>>332952753
I got mine for $60 USD at Play Asia

you can get Asian version there for like $10 cheaper but you might have to wait an extra week for shipping.
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>>332953259
Only normies play on their 60 inch screens halfway across their living rooms, and I like never having to change or charge batteries.
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>>332953183
I don't own a PS4 and think it's garbage but the DS4 is pretty comfy tbqh. It feels solid it's just not sturdy and the rubber feels like it's specifically engineered to fall off the sticks as fast as possible
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>>332951153
New iterations already fixed that issue
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>>332953183
even if the DS4 gets or has already gotten better build quality, for me it's its short as fuck lifespan of a batterylife that's the real dealbreaker
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>>332953420
thanks, totally forgot about that site for some reason
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>>332953183
>Kind of small
>Mushy triggers
>D-pad still segmented above the casing
>Left stick STILL in the wrong fucking place
>LED and touchpad taking up space while adding little
>Awful, awful battery life

The D-pad is better than the 360's, but that's about all it has going for it. Xbone is probably the best controller right now. Wii U Pro would be up there with it if the face buttons and right stick weren't swapped.
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Are steam controllers really that bad? I was gonna get one tomorrow but all these negatives are making me rethink.
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In terms of a general pc primary controller, I'd say DS4 is the best you can do right now. It gets perfect compatibility since there's great ds4-to-360pad wrappers you can use, its has improved build quality over the ds3, and the d-pad makes it /vr/ approved. The touchpad can be used as a mouse too, but thats more of a gimmick then a feature I guess.
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>>332951982
Dark Souls is literally the only reason to get a controller, any other game had a proper dev making the port
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>>332953459
Didn't fix the dpad or stick placement or remove the LED and touchpad.
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why is everyone rating wiiu pro controller so high? it has that shitty glossy finish, feels "cheap" in the button and triggers, and its annoying as fuck after using xbox/ds4 controllers to have to buttons below the right thumbstick
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>>332953705
Dpad is fine and definitely better than the 360's excuse of a dpad, stick placement is contrarily the only sensible one as it allows for clawing which no controller this gen allows, you can turn off the LED with PS4Windows and the touchpad is perfect as a mouse for couchplay
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>>332953606
The dpad is mediocre at best. Always hated that segmented shit, its not as bad as the OG Xbox or 360's but its still less precise than others I've used over the years. Nintendo are the only ones that seem to know how to make a Dpad, and it's a shame since the Vita had such a good one.
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>>332948613
XBO=DS4>360>DS3

No xbox controller will be perfect until they fix the fucking dpad.
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>>332948613
>wireless
trash
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>>332953605
Depends on what you want to use it for. For shooters, definitely not. It's good for racing/casual games but don't expect any good build quality
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>>332953964
>Dpad is fine and definitely better than the 360's excuse of a dpad
Yes but its still not great. It'd be near-impossible to make a dpad as awful as those.
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>people hating digital triggers
>useless for shit other than racing games
Why would anyone want analog triggers
It made the GoW collection on ps3 pretty shit with those L2R2 mash QTEs
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Who /vitabestcontroller/ here?
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>>332953595
>wrong place
I'm really quite curious how this ever came to pass. Is it because there was a generation of kids who grew up with their patriotic American console and learned to love the mutant asymmetrical layout out of some misguided sense of loyalty?

In what world is asymmetrical useful for anything but the most niche games?
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360 controller was so much better than PS3 so I got my multiplatform games for 360. Is it the same for this generation? The resistance of the 360 controller's sticks was the main thing I enjoyed about it.
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>>332953605
It's not for everyone, but I love it. It takes getting used to, but that's no fault of the controller itself. Analog and dual analog also took some getting used to when they first came along. But it's miles better than any other controller for shooters and games that would normally require KB+M. It also works surprisingly well for just using your computer from the couch, not at all frustrating or finicky once you get used to it. Not sure why everyone in this thread is shitting on it, most places I've looked people have liked it (or at least been just indifferent towards it).
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>>332948613
Objectively correct ranking. Good job, OP.

>>332949383
It's fucking weird, isn't it? Some people just prefer mushy D-pads, I guess.
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>>332954171
Is it good for dark souls type games? I'm thinking of getting it for DaS 3 since my 360 pad is bust.
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>>332954171
>For shooters, definitely not.
How to tell someone hasn't used the Steam controller for more than 30 minutes. What were you using it for? You weren't using the emulated joystick, were you? You used the mouse emulation, right?
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>>332953595
I use my xbone controller the most, but the ds4 has way better triggers, your fingers feel really relaxed sitting on them.
Also, why does the 360 have better triggers than the XBO?
MS really fucked that up.
>left stick in the wrong place
why is this still a meme?
If you're playing a 3D game like a shooter or an action game like Dark Souls you're going to be using both sticks most of the time.
If you're playing a 2D game like a platformer you're going to be using the dpad and face buttons at all times.
There is no situation where the xbox style stick layout makes sense.

if it weren't for XBO's godly battery life I'd probably stick to DS4, but since DS4 can barely last a single session I only use it for emulation.
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>>332952626
Jesus that's so sexy. Where did you buy it?
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>>332950295
>ds4
>god tier
please kill yourself in from of your parents senpai
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>>332949043
You're aware that you can use almost any gamepad on PC, right? It has nothing to do with brand loyalty.
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>>332953980
I disagree about nintendo d-pads, they've been frankly awful for the longest time now. It was an abortion on the 64 pad, outdid themselves with an even worse d-pad on the GC pad, then maybe slightly improved from shit to mediocre on wii (although I've had a terrible experience with the responsiveness on wii remote d-pads), and they've stuck to mediocrity again with the wii u d-pads. It goes back to total ass on the 3ds side of things, especially when you factor in the position of the d-pad.
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>Vita has literally the best D-Pad
>DS4 doesn't use it

For what purpose?
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>>332954443
You will have to rely on the touchpad to move the camera. If you can get used to that then yes
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The latest Xbone pads are the best controllers by a long shot, since they fixed the annoying bumpers the original production Xbone pads had.
Although I still use my DS3 when playing Dark Souls, it just doesn't feel right using the Xbone or 360 controller for Souls games.

The DS4 would have been nice if the sticks didn't suck so hard. The rubber just disintegrates as soon as you look at it.
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God tier:
>steam controller
Top tier:
Xbox 360 controller
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>>332954415
>Some people just prefer mushy D-pads, I guess.
the DS4 dpad is usable for 2D games.
The XBO and 360's are not.
XBO is clacky like a shitty 3DS dpad, and 360 is just a mushy circle.
I mean it's not MS's fault, they never designed their controllers to be used for 2D games, the dpad to XBOX is basically the designated weapon select controls.
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>>332954646
What? I can't comment on the older 3DS systems, but my New 3DS XL has a fantastic D-pad. It's very nice and clicky.
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>>332948613
>xbone elite is god tier
>not featured in op
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>>332954071
The Xbone has a great Dpad.

>>332948613
What puts the Elite over the regular Xbone, anyways? Really doesn't seem worth the price.
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>>332948613
>unironicly thinking the steam controller is anything other than into the trash tier
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>>332954838
>Clicky
>Shitty
>3DS D-pad
>Shitty

Get a load of this guy.
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>>332954696
Sony are retards
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>>332954838
>the dpad to XBOX is basically the designated weapon select controls.
Which is NOT helped by an ambiguous circular "directional" pad. 2D platformers can still be played with a D-pad that acts more like a faux analog stick, but things that require precise input like equipment or menu selections are hurt the MOST.
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>>332954709
I might get it. It seems that people are either really in love with it or hate it almost on principle.
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>>332954920
>The Xbone has a great Dpad.
really does not.
It's in the wrong place to be used for platformers and even ignoring that it's really stiff and imprecise like the 3DS.
It was never meant to be used to actually control your character.
Try playing SMB with it and you'll immediately see what I mean.
>>332955038
I said clacky, not clicky.
It's all in how precise and the travel distance.
3DS dpad doesn't feel right when you try to play VC games with it.
The DS original has the GOAT dpad, and then they fucked it up with the DS lite.
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>>332953305
You can look up the Hyperkin procube if you want. It's a wiiu pro controller in gamecube style, but with the extra buttons and clicky sticks.

They also make retro style usb controllers for use in emulation if you're interested in that stuff.
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>>332954596
>>332953420
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>>332954861
On n3ds it really just comes down to where the d-pad is located. It's just in such an offensively bad spot that's designed to agitate your hands. There's just no excuse for it when vita provides comfortable d-pad AND analog controls.
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>>332955171
That's a good idea. I'll try SMB and like, Aria of Sorrow. The only games I've played with primarily the Dpad are 999 and AW: Days of Ruin. I feel like those two don't really portray it too well, since even the shitty 360 Dpad could pass for them.
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The Wii U controller's triggers suck ass, they aren't even pressure sensitive. PS4 controller feels better IMO.
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>>332949104
you're probably bad with every controller and only got into online gaming with the ps3
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>>332955445
I'm sure you can beat a lot of games with a 360 dpad, it still feels awful though.

And I wish it didn't, because I've spent way too much money on PC controllers over time.
I own a DS3, DS4 and XBO controller without owning ANY of those consoles.
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I have an xbone elite controller, and I like it better than anything else, sans m&kb. The dpad attachment is awesome, although the paddles get in the way until you get used to them.
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>>332948613
switch the Xbone and DS4 and you've got a good list
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>>332950692
I always preferred asymmetrical ever since trying it but after using the Wii U pro controlled I realized symmetrical isn't the problem. It's Sony's symmetrical analog placement that is the problem.

Unless you position your thumbs on a Sony controller in a non-standard way, your thumbs will touch and it's just not a comfortable layout for long playing sessions. Sony has just never made good controllers. I'm glad they finally made a more modern ergonomic controller after using the same design for almost 20 years but it just isn't a good controller (and their are also build quality and battery life issues)
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>>332955171
What the fuck is clacky? I have never seen anyone use that term before.

>3DS dpad doesn't feel right when you try to play VC games with it.
I use it to play retro games all the time. Feels perfectly fine to me.

>The DS original has the GOAT dpad, and then they fucked it up with the DS lite.
Agreed. Though I still think the Vita has the best D-pad on a handheld.
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>>332952626
Those are Japan only, right? Will they work on a US PS4? I haven't had a clear controller since the N64 days, and that one looks so good.
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>>332953305
PDP fightpad and Hori battlepad are also wii u classic controllers that are modeled after the gamecube controller, but to get them working with a PC you need to buy a Wii Classic controller adapter.
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>>332955724
>I use it to play retro games all the time. Feels perfectly fine to me.
which 3DS do you use?
I have the original and the dpad feels really bad.
>What the fuck is clacky? I have never seen anyone use that term before.
I guess when the button makes more of a clack than a click.
>I still think the Vita has the best D-pad on a handheld.
interesting, I've never tried a Vita.

I think one of the reasons the DS fat's dpad was so exceptional was because it had to be.
That system had almost equal 2D and 3D games and only the dpad to control the entire library.
Somehow they managed to make a dpad that felt good for 2D platformers but also remarkably very comfortable for 3D games like Mariokart and SM64.
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>Wanted to buy a Wii U Pro controller
>The triggers aren't analog


Sigh..
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>>332955678
>Unless you position your thumbs on a Sony controller in a non-standard way, your thumbs will touch and it's just not a comfortable layout for long playing sessions.
I found this to be an issue with the Dual Shock 3, but I've never had any problems like that with the DS4. It's all a matter of opinion, of course, but the DS4 quickly surpassed the 360 controller as my favorite.
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>>332953595
>Left stick STILL in the wrong fucking place
>having autism
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>>332952626
That looks pretty bad to me. I did like the 20th anniversary grey though.
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>>332955678
What kind of disgustingly oversided hands do you have that this is happening? Only fat people have this problem.
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>>332955678

>i'm a fucking retard that can't hold an object

What the actual fuck. Nobody, literally nobody, has ever had their thumbs touch when using a DS controller. You have to be a fucking idiot to have that happen.
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>Ds4 poo tier
Piss off nigger the only reason ppl belive the Ds4 is shit is because it isnt as heavy as the xbox's.
>but muh shit quality thumbsticks
That was a collosal error from sony but they ended up fixing it. Newer controllers dont have this problem.
>but xbox's controller has better placed thumbsticks
Again , piss off mate. Xbox's controller literally hates all lefties because of its shit placement.
At least with Ds4 everybody can play.
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>>332955535
The only benefit of analog triggers are driving games, one of the stalest genres.
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Why did Sony and Microsoft fuck up so bad this gen when it comes to start and select?

DS4: Garbage button shape, garbage placement, "share" and "option"

XB1: I've had my bone for almost two years and I still have no clue what to call the buttons. Boxes and lines? I just say start and select when talking to friends and they know exactly what I mean.

+ and - are retarded, but at least they make a little bit of sense.
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>>332957569
I think the Bone buttons are called Menu and View, but they will always be Start and Select because that's just how they function. Having a dedicated Facebook button is retarded.
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>>332957569
Who the heck cares about these buttons ?
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this is the xboxfag's Achilles heel.
they have no answer to this game.
show an eggsbonker this screen and he will drop to the floor with his mouth agape.
there is no way to defend the xbox controller in the face of Ape Escape, it simply can't be done.
There is actually footage online of a man trying to play the rowing segment of Ape Escape with a 360 controller, and the asymmetry of the sticks confuses him so much that he actually got nauseous and had to go lay down.
Asymmetryfags don't want people to know this, don't believe their lies.
They are the enemy.
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Why is the 360 controller so good?
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>>332955621
I managed to get as far as beating 1-5 on the SMB: All Stars version of the first game. Seemed fine to me.

The original Mega Man Zero I decided to try on a whim and holy shit, it's an absolute joy with the d-pad. Beat Aztec Falcon in two tries.

I didn't play a lot of Aria of Sorrow, but enough to level up and get back to my save point. Seems fine. I kinda forgot where I was in the game, which is why.

Gotta say, on the whole, I disagree with you. I'm glad I did this, though.
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>>332957798
Because it fills your hands. Just wish the d-pad was better.
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>people playing 2d games on controllers

If you're typing an angry reply to this on the same machine you play those 2d games on, you can use that thing you're typing on for a much better experience than a controller
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>>332957778
Who tf cares about Ape Escape lmao
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>>332958196
see I told you.
ex-boob-fuckers have no defense.
they're like the robots on a show where you tell them a parabler and they go electric and explode.
Ape Escape is a red pill for the truth of control stick, they don't want you to take the red pill they want you to eat pretend steak and play Fifa on a shitty controller.
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Oh shit, I was about to buy a steam controller with the dark souls 3 bundle! My 360 ones getting bad sticks. Hmmm.
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>>332949223
>Xbone has fucking horrific LB/RB buttons.

They fixed them on newer models. Check if the controller has a headphone jack if you're not sure if the one you're using is the revised model.
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>>332958458
Open it and put some tape around the things that hold the sticks.
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>>332958458
Just accept you are a gyromite, and it will be cool.
Good steam controller config:
1. You map everything to the surfaces, so you don't need to leave them. A broken config is one where you have to leave the surfaces to hit a button
2. Gyro is amazing
3. Mouse joystick emulation is amazing
4. Mouse region is amazing
5. In many games, Keyboard + Mouse > Joystick, for what you emulate. Because direct mouse input > emulated mouse input
6. Trackball shit is amazing
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>>332958458
What the fuck is wrong with you
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DS4 shape and buttons, XO triggers, Vita d-pad, Elite paddles

Literally the ultimate controller
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>>332958880

>Not Xbone analog

I love the feeling of the PS4 controller in my hands, but fuck those sticks to death.
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>>332958880
XO triggers aren't very comfy, both 360 and DS4 are better.
Otherwise yeah.
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>>332958458
lurk for 2 years before posting you cancerous nigger
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>>332949383
This. holy fuck how can people stand it? Its so uncomfortable. Do these people have manlet hands?
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>>332959239
At least I can do this, can you newfriend?

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