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Mass Effect leaked footage from some progress report.
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>>332923052
Video here, from reddit.
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>>332923052
they really need to create better fonts
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It'll just be another gay pandering linear shitpile
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>>332923052
>origin
>denuvo
>sjw
no thanks
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>>332923052
tl;dw It's just the fucking Frostbite engine doing it's thing. Battlefront looked better.
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>>332923191
Which part of the leaked information led you to believe it will be a gay pandering linear shitpile?

>>332923231
Which part of the leaked information led you to believe it will be Denuvo protected or SJW?
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>>332923231
what the fuck is sjw?
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>>332923339
EA game developed by bioware

keep shilling son
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>>332923339
>Which part of the leaked information led you to believe it will be a gay pandering linear shitpile?
The part about it being made by BioWare.
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>>332923339
Their track record
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>>332923412
>>332923412
>Their track record

In that case The Talos Principle is a fast paced shooter about dodging bullets and spitting cannonballs at huge aliens?
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>>332923492
The Talos Principle wasn't supposed to be more of the same shit the dev had made before.
Mass Effect Andromeda is marketed as more of the same shit.
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>>332923096
HUD looks alright there
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>>332923052
Just a stupid tech demo for their engine. Again.
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>>332923052

graphically, this looks like mass effect 3. bravo
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>>332923492
you're pathetic
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>>332923052
webm with its original sound, just kinda generic music

https://u.pomf.is/jksrro.mp4

Also relevant, BioWare has seen a steady stream of high-profile resignations recently. Prominent members of the studio, including Senior Editor Cameron Harris, Senior Development Director Chris Wynn, and long-time BioWare writer David Gaider all stepped down in the last year. The team behind the upcoming game Mass Effect Andromeda has been particularly hard hit. Following this week’s resignation of head narrative designer, Gary Vakarian, the studio has lost all of its chief members.
As of April 1st the senior-most member of the staff is BioWare intern Connie Verner, who joined the studio in September 2015.

Not only is old BioWare gone, but second wave BioWare is also gone, and third wave BioWare is also gone.
We have hit fourth wave Bioware. This will be their first ever released game. Lets see if it will be any good.
If not, I assume EA will junk the studio completely.
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>>332923052
So, what kind of shit excuse are they going to come up with to justify rehashing old races in another galaxy?
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>>332923613
Progress report. Shit's not done.
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>>332923782

>inb4 they shut Bioware down after this and shit can Mass Effect for good
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>>332923052
look at those dumb bioware jank animations.
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>>332923782
>As of April 1st the senior-most member of the staff is BioWare intern Connie Verner, who joined the studio in September 2015.
Any proof of that? That sounds too awful to be true.
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>>332923827
A bunch of them are traveling with you in a huge colony ship.
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>>332923827

The fact they traveled there with you in a ship?
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>>332923052
>different galaxy
>same species
if that ain't lazy, I don't know what is
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Looks like all the other MEs with better particle effects.
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>>332924001
The whole point is that you're in a huge colony ship with populations of each of the Citadel races trying to find a new home. Why WOULDN'T the old races be around?
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>>332923404

>EA game developed by bioware

But none of their games are gay pandering?
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>>332924001
You, for making assumptions on a single video that's just an engine showcase from an early alpha.
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>these animations

Jesus
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>>332923997
They literally didnt yet show one official gameplay
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>>332923934
>>332923939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up8oW65AjBQ
It doesn't seem to be that massive, certainly not Noah's Ark. It would make sense to have companions of old species, but enemies? That doesn't make much sense.
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>>332923052
looks like shit
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>>332924192

Reaction images aren't points. Having gay characters isn't gay pandering.
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>pollen grenade
tiptopkek
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>>332924347
this, it's million times worse than what I expected
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>>332923930
>Connie Verner
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Conrad_Verner
>Gary Vakarian
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Garrus_Vakarian
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>>332923930
>Any proof of that? That sounds too awful to be true.

It's a joke. The 1st april thing should've made it obvious.
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>>332923782
>As of April 1st the senior-most member of the staff is BioWare intern Connie Verner, who joined the studio in September 2015.
Bullshit
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>>332923052
These are engine features, Bioware didn't create them.
Also, this doesn't look any better than Mass Effect 3.
And even if it did, Bioware models and animation would ruin any graphics.

Still, I don't care about graphics that much, but the fact that this will be a pseudo-MMO filler fest like DA:I will definately keep me away
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>>332924075
>It has lazy as fuck plot. Why WOULDN'T the old races be around?
ftfy
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>>332923997
It's not even beta yet, its just the video they gave to EA so they can receive more money.
Its a "what we have done in the last two weeks" type of report card.
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>>332924584
You guys are all fucking retarded. Look.
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>>332924563
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>>332923930
>>332924584
“We’re also bringing in some of the biggest Mass Effect fans in the world to fill out the team,” said Verner. “We’ve done a good job getting them up to speed, too. The new Art Director, Danny — his parents wouldn’t let him play the first Mass Effect game when it came out, but he’s got an old Xbox 360 in his room now, so the whole team will be ready to go by the end of the month.”
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>>332923096
Jetpacks huh? Could be interesting.
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>>332924947
they've just ripped it from the battlefront, it's safe to assume since it's on the same engine
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>>332925048
And hopefully they rip the squad management from Republic Commando while they are at it.
I have no problems whatsoever with the good parts of one game finding their way into another.
Video games are iterative to begin with, might as well wear that on their sleeves.
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>>332924352
Having them the way bioware does is.

>Shepard I'm gay.
>Did I mention I'm gay Shepard?
>My husband died Shepard.
>My HUSBAND Shepard.
>I'm a man who once had a Husband Shepard.
>I'm gay btw.

If a character feels the need to remind you every few minutes of an aspect of their character, then you aren't writing them very well. Also Bioware openly pandered for ME3 and DAI. Have you forgotten how they claimed that all of the complaints for their games just came from homophobics?

Bioware is shit and dead to me.
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So this is what making AIDs looks like.
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>>332925152
>And hopefully they rip the squad management from Republic Commando while they are at it.
You're asking for way too much.
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>>332925152
I said it years ago and i'll say it again: ME3 with ME1 approach to story and meaningful choices would have turned this turd into a goldbar laced with diamonds.
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>>332925193
Do you think Baldurs Gate featured hamster pandering?

>My hamster told me to kill that guy.
>My hamster, boss!
>Did I mention my hamster talks to me?
>My hamster from out of space is my best friend.
>I have a hamster by the way.

If it was anything other than "gay", people would just ignore it as bad writing.
When its "gay", people assume there is an agenda and a conspiracy.
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>leaked info

Nope. Not from bioshart.

"Leaked info" just means they wanted it to circulate but are too pussy to take real criticism on it and will have an excuse when nobody gives a fuck.
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>>332923997
The beta one is right and it always has been. You can't judge something unless it's finished or close to completion, and this doesn't look like it is.
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>>332923880
They won't, but Bioware is already at that point they're just doing whatever EA wants them to and they've lost most of their old lead developers who knew what they were doing. EA will keep them around because A) Bioware's name still carries some weight and B) because they always wanted in-house RPG studio of their own.
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>>332925294
What did he mean by this?
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>>332923096
Only thing I like of it is that this will show the potential of the frostbite engine in enviroments
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>>332923339
The last 3 games as well as all of the Dragon Age shit.

I feel pretty safe in this bet
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>>332925487
Did you even look at the fucking thing? Its just progress report. They are reusing Battlefront and Mass Effect 3 assets for it.Its not something you want seen.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, anon. Leaks happen.
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>>332925597
You actually can with about 90% certainty. If something is in beta it's not going through any major changes. Yeah, assets might change and it might be polished more but what's there systems-wise is what you're getting. Except for small indie teams which I guess can pull off 180s, but for big projects that's practically impossible because development plan has been written and executed for years before you got the chance to try the game or before it even reached beta stage. Game's don't happen overnight, basically.
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>>332923052
lmao, that looks like a Bioware cutscene right there

stiff animations, greasy skin and "whatever" camera
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>>332925392
The should have gone down the New Vegas route. There the final mission and ending slides did a great job of reflecting your choices.
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>>332925803
it boggles my mind how shitty their cutscene directors are. like, was every game since dragon age origins someone's debut or something? because sweet jesus. don't make me post those inquisition or tor webms.
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>>332925830
>The should have gone down the New Vegas route. There the final mission and ending slides did a great job of reflecting your choices.

They did do that in Neverwinter Nights. After each chapter there was a slide show of drawn images with narration.
The Witcher 1 did it too, in their Aurora engine.

They just chose to have it done differently.
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They are going to improve the character models, right?

RIGHT?
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>>332923052
>Jetpack
>Seems like exploration / ME1 style could be back
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Best not to be excited because modern EA will find a way to fuck this up somehow. I'll have to wait for the announcement and see how many times someone says "Diverse", and "inclusive" before deciding if it's shit.
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>>332926010
>ugly face
>great ass

They knew how to allocate money.
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>>332926087
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>tfw no synthesis
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>>332926164
Would've looked good if she were just colored black.
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>>332925830
I don't think that would have worked, not with that fanbase they cultivated. Bioware made the mistake of giving their fans the expectation that the third game would tied up all the choices they made in previous games and the endings would be radically different based on those rewarding you, not with slides, but full blown cinematics and interactive dialogue for each semi-important choice. A game like that could never ship because no producer would ever sign off on a 10 year schedule where most players won't get to see 90% of the content in a single playthrough all for the price of measly 60 bucks + DLC. Bioware was after the success of ME1 flying high and dreaming only to hit rock bottom when they realized they could never deliver.
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>>332923052

fuck off with this gay pandering sjw bullshit.
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>>332926010
That's the just the actor they picked.
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>>332926010
Strahovski looks like MJ with the black hair and pale skin. They should have gone with the lightly tanned blonde or red headed version.
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>>332926397

buzzwords
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>>332926404
Yeah I don't think yvonne strahovski or jessica chobot really look this ugly
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>>332926397
How is it gay pandering SJW bullshit?
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>>332926397
Here's your reply.
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weebm related plus terrible artists and designers
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>>332926323
The worst part is, they nailed the final mission in ME2, crappy boss aside. The game was character-oriented and they made the suicide mission in such a way that would make it a logical conclusion. You got to know those characters, now properly coordinate them based on their strengths and weaknesses or they will die.
And yet with ME3 they just ate shit. Perhaps the game could have used another delay or two. I wonder how bad it would be if not for the delay.
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>created jetpack
>not just stole the code from DICE and battlefront and give it a new paint job
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>>332927006
Do the two games actually have a common audience?
I know they are both sci-fi shooters, but the gameplay and focus is so different that I don't think many players who liked Battlefront would also like Mass Effect 4, or vice versa.
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>>332923492
The Talos Principle is already out and has 100% of it's content available to anyone at any time.

You fucking idiot.
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wow, the graphics look just as shitty as before. also what happened to that "whole new galaxy" shit, this just looks exactly the same as vanilla ME, even has a fucking krogan.
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>>332927180
Yes, but looking at Croteam's past record you would make an inaccurate guess as to what that game would be like.
Similar with the Alien game from Creative Assembly.

You cant judge a game based on what the developer has made in the past. Often good games follow bad ones, or bad follow good ones.
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>>332927141
I'm basing that on the fact that EA is pushing for all their subsidiaries to use Frostbite and that Bioware are ridiculously lazy.
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>>332926323
This is more of a general commentary but I think execs greatly underestimate the value of prestige. Just because your elaborate branching storyline or ridiculous attention to detail will only be accessed and/or appreciated by 2% of the population doesn't mean it has no value to everyone else.

Those with taste gradually influence others in a sort of "trickle-down" fashion so that a given work obtains a reputation and people purchase/consume a piece of media based on that reputation alone. It has and will always be this way; thinking that all the great masterpieces of art and literature were preserved and revered because people actually appreciated them rather than pretending to in a vain attempt to appear more sophisticated or powerful are fools.
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>>332927312
Oh, I don't doubt what you said.
I am just implying that its not in any way bad, since they aren't stealing DICE's thunder or anything.
Mass Effect having jetpacks wont make Battlefront sell less copies or get worse reviews.
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>>332927369
>execs greatly underestimate the value of prestige

Prestige matters in privately held businesses.
In shareholder ran ones what matters is the here and now, and prestige isnt important short term.

This is why you see Valve very worried about their image, while EA is not working too hard to fight their bad guy image.
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>>332926836
That's why i said they set their fans expectations too high. Bioware should have gone with the Witcher where only a handful choices carried over from game to game but actually mattered in the end. ME had a gigantic gallery of characters by the third game and very few actually had much screen time.
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>>332927369
>>332927486
Google "1000 true fans", it is a strategy that games like Dwarf Fortress employ when it comes to making money.
This will NOT work for a several hundred million dollar game like Mass Effect.
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>>332924075
All im saying is, for every number of old species, there better be the same amount of new species. + the old ones
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>>332927369
>Just because your elaborate branching storyline or ridiculous attention to detail will only be accessed and/or appreciated by 2% of the population doesn't mean it has no value to everyone else.
Yeah, it's just a question of design philosophy. Some devs are very afraid that players will miss out on some content.
Others say fuck it, you'll have to work for it, explore, experiment with branching paths and make some content not only missable, but also unobtainable depending on your choices. I respect that and I like that. People still say "holy shit, didn't know you can do this or that in Deus Ex, time to reinstall".
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>>332927654
>i want double the amount of models and animations

Not possible. I very much doubt EA will risk giving Bioware some record high amount of cash to make this one. Plus they will want to ship it before Cyberpunk 2077 and Bethesda's next project.
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>>332927302
>You cant judge a game based on what the developer has made in the past.
Yes you can, and you do. THEN you MAY get surprised, pleasantly or otherwise when their next game is something different from their track record. That is the entire point of a track record - to build up expectations.

Besides, The Talos Principle was marketed as a puzzle game from the beginning, despite it being made by Croteam. If you got the impression that it was SS4 then that is your fault really. Bioware are marketing this as Mass Effect 4... so no shit people are expecting more of the same.

If they DON'T pull a ME3, then I will be pleasantly surprised. Until then, I'll be a cynical piece of shit.
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>>332923052
god, it really looks like a bioware game to me.
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>>332927486
You didn't read my whole post. Business prestige/reputation is a slightly different concept to what I'm talking about. I suppose with games the distinction is a bit blurrier, but generally there's a difference between the reputation of the generative entity and the work itself -- so, for example, a film might come out by a director/producer that has a good track record, but then the film ITSELF acquires a reputation in addition to, and in some cases opposition to, the preexisting reputation given by its "lineage". In other words I'm describing word-of-mouth.
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>>332927369
Prestige matters when you're selling a status symbol like a car or handcrafted furniture. Not so much when you're selling a 60 dollar game. Especially not when the value of your work and the level of skill needed to create it are highly subjective. What little details and quirks you might notice, 75% of their customers won't give a shit about and vice versa.
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>>332927830
Name a game that has a reputation distinctly separate from that of its developer.
I honestly cant think of any. Games are generally a good reflection of the developer's ideas and ethics, and unless that developer changes their entire stuff after each game, the prestige a game creates is attributed to the developer.
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>>332927842
Yet Bioware continues to put books and descriptions in their Dragon Age games that probably 10% of players ever look at.
Look at The Witcher 3 achievements, most people didnt finish the game at all, yet the ending is there, and its well crafted.

Just because most people wont care doesnt mean its not worthwhile having these. The people who DO care are exactly the ones who set trends, who make long blogposts and angry rant videos on youtube, who create fan art for your game or reference it in their indie project or shill it on reddit.
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>>332923052
>lets go with unreal engine 4, we got experience with 3 and it will be easy to transition and the engien itself shows amazing promise
>lol no, lets try the one from ea
im really not impressed with the shading and the renderer
for a differed physical based renderer their results look like fucking ass, all the post processing battlefield 4 used shows now what will happen when a different unexperienced studio gets its hand on it, nothing good
comparing it to star wars battlefield is like night and day
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>>332925048
All EA games are on the same engine now.
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>>332928190
>Just because most people wont care doesnt mean its not worthwhile having these.

It all depends on how much more work is needed to implement something that most people will never see and how important it is to the whole story and concept. You would have a point if the codex was acted out in cut scenes and not just text(i think the codex in DA3 was voiced, could be wrong tho) but the implementation is very low fi and low effort.

But letting Letho survive W2 and just stumble upon him in, what seemed to be, a very minor sidequest in W3 which then turned out to be massive and even somewhat important to the story is, unfortunately, the exception to the rule.
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>>332928190
>ending of Witcher 3
>well crafted
I just came to this thread and what is this bullshit?
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>>332928460
Frostbyte is an in-house engine for them, why wouldn't they use it?
You have to pay money to use Unreal 4 Engine, and it is constantly being updated (so it isn't stable), and by using Frostbyte they also promote its use by others, which makes their boss money.

You shouldn't forget who owns BioWare, and who owns Frostbyte. I am sure EA don't want all that research and development cash for Frostbyte going to waste if it dies like the CryEngine engine. That one practically took the whole company down with its failure to gain wide adoption.
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>literally DA cisquisition in space
gee, absolutely nobody could have foreseen this
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>>332926264
>wanting based Ash to be a dindu.
Kill yourself niggerlover.
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>>332924085
spotted the shitposter
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>there are people that somehow expect this to be any good
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>>332928976
Which one of their games are gay pandering?
Are you going to list 3-4 NPCs out of 500 and conclude that the game is a homo RPG?
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>>332924085
Jesus fucking Christ man.
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>>332928857
>literally DA cisquisition in space

We have seen like 20 seconds of footage, and NOTHING in these 20 seconds leads me to think of Inquisition.
How did you come to that conclusion?
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>>332925405
Minsc really did not refer to Boo all that much and he's his pet hamster that he thinks talks to him so of course he pops up in his dialogue, that's pretty natural. People talk about their dogs all the time even if they're not mental, but how often do people constantly remind you of their sexuality in general conversation? Fuck off.
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>>332928691
its inhouse for dice, and while its licensed for free due to them being a subsidiary of the same publisher they still are taking an engine they have little experience with
but to be fair i totally forgot dragon age inquisition even exists, so i guess they made something with it already, dunno about the results, never played it

also squre has no qualms with licensing unreal 4 even if they got their own next gen engine, like any big publisher, point is to optimize the development process and make sure the team actually can use the tools

regardless the gif looks like ass rom shading and post side

as for crytec, what took them down is a series of commercial failures and awful decision by the retard brothers owning it
starting with a bizarre licensing system for their engine, retarded console focus after making their name on pc with a risking huge investment transition with crysis 2, and microsoft exclusive deal for ryse that was in development hell for years due to kinect integration, that and starting like fucking 10 other studios across the globe while producing shit all of note
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>>332929460
People remind me of their sexual orientation more often than they remind me of their talking hamsters.
Its just bad writing of that one NPC in Mass Effect, and you use that badly written dialogue to write off the whole game as gay propaganda.

You are the one with an agenda to sell here, so you nitpick as hard as possible.
How many NPCs are there in Mass Effect? How many of them talk about their gay husbands?
Gay relationships pop up on /v/ more often than they do in Mass Effect. Homo.
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I really hope i can roleplay as a conquistador and massacre the shit out of the indigenous races with superior technology.
But that's never going to happen, because Bioware.
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YOU NO TARK BAD ABOUT NEW MASS EFFECT
YOU TARK BAD YOU GET BANNU
MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA IS NO GAY
MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA HAVE ARR INCRUSIVE CAST
END OF RINE
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↑rine ends here↑
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>>332929609
Kill yourself nigger, a characters sexual preferences should only come up if you are trying to fuck them.
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>>332929561
Reminds me of the way THQ died. Was it them actually? i dont remember.
There was one studio which was making B tier games for years, doing great with middle budget stuff, then suddenly deciding they want to rival Activision and Ubisoft, taking huge loans, buying patents and licenses, opening studios everywhere, and declaring bankruptcy a few years later.
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>>332929845

In the case of other ME games, even not trying anything could get you stuck in a gay relationship
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>Kill yourself nigger

Good arguments, you addressed my points nicely.
Typical agenda pushing drone. One character in hundreds mention homosex and the whole game is now gay, because you personally dislike homos.
Not only the game, in fact the whole studio is now gay. How there they have homo characters, what a bunch of degenerates.
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>>332923782
>Connie Verner
>Conrad Verner

Either you're shitposting and lying or this is some grade A pottery.
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>>332929960
Now this would be an argument against the game if it actually happened.
I dont think it does, and you basically have to move towards a gay relationship to get into one.
It was Dragon Age 2 that had the "incidental" homo relationship because the dialogue system didnt make the choice implications obvious in one case.
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>>332929960
Name one example where that's true.
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>>332923096
Wait did they shorten the quickslots even more?
Good job Bioware.
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>>332930005
>what is a joke
Anon...
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>>332929989
So EA does market on /v/ it looks like. All these chuckle fucks in this thread are either trying way too hard for (You)'s, or have no idea where they are.
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>>332930521
>All these chuckle fucks
It's only one person
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>>332923827
can't have a whole new galaxy for humans only lad. i mean common, it's 2187!
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>>332926818
That girl looks pretty in all of those lighting situations though
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>>332930521
It's only one libercuck that shills for faggots in games.
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>>332929846
THQ got killed by creating shitty gimmicks when the kinect and wii waggle shit was popular, some crappya ddod that tanked so hard nobody heard of it
it pretty much was what killed them, they had to sell some assets and then homefront happened, another nail and it was over
they neglected their popular brands and had no money to recover

a huge list of problems, everybody knew they are going bankrupt years in advance due to how many times they fucked up
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>>332930521

Watch what you post or Stanley Woo will find you and you'll get the ding dong bannu
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>>332930135
>I dont think it does,

To be fair, there really was mostly just the option to choose between "faraway, not noteworthy friend-y type) and "let's fuck", as far as "romance" goes in Mass Effect.
So, really, if you hit the first two flags, which sounded like normal answers, instead of romance flags, you were in that path.
It was handled bad, but not unavoidable.
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>>332930521
Argue me then. All you do is insult. Ur gay, ur shill, ur nigger.
The fact is that a very, very small portion of Mass Effect NPCs ever mention their relationships, and a small portion of them mention a gay relationship.
How does this make it a gay game, pushed to gays, and gay pandering?

A game with one black character isnt negro pandering.
A game with one female character isnt girl pandering.
A game with one pirate character isnt pirate pandering.
A game with one dog character isnt dog pandering.
A game with one gay character IS GAY PANDERING call the cops holy shit SJW game alert.

Grow up. You dont like gays, thats fine, feel free to go post about it on /pol/.
Dismissing a game because it has a gay character is dumb. Dismissing a developer because they had a gay character is dumb. Dismissing a series of games because they featured a gay character is dumb. Dont be dumb.
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if only they could just release the mp seperate. for all the flak me3 got, the dev team that handled mp did a pretty good job.
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>>332930802
So we are back to incompetence, not gay propaganda.
I wont argue Bioware has many moments of incompetence, their games often deliver full of questionable design choices and writing.
What I am arguing is the paranoid people who think the games are gay pandering and that they are written to push gay propaganda to players.
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Bioware cannot ever make a good character animation.
It's almost like no-one on their team has ever spent time around a real human to see how they move and behave.

And you know, after Gaider left Bioware I actually had a tiny sliver of hope that Andromeda wouldn't be shit.
Now I realize it'll be the same old, only with more denuvo crashes and probably a forced gay protag like they were threatening.
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>>332930882
>dev team that handled mp did a pretty good job
The MP team is in charge of ME:A.
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>>332930826
You've convinced me to buy ME:Homo Quest, Mr. riggitoni. How could I have been so blind.
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>>332930953
>Now I realize it'll be the same old

How will it be the same old when none of the old people are working on it?
Do you expect DooM 4 to also be the same old id shooter? Doesn't look like it, because its new people making it.

I expect Andromeda to be a typical third person shooter made for PlayStation 4, like Uncharted. The difference being you make some dialogue choices during cutscenes.
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>>332930826
Does the black character mentions a hundred times that he is a negro without you asking him?
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Ah yes, Mass Effect.

I can't wait for,
>Bioware level animation
>bad dialogue
>bad RPG mechanics
>boring easy as fuck TPS
>artificial difficulty
>SJWs
>"Choices and Consequences™"
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>>332931138
Same old just means it'll be shit because Bioware only makes shit games.
The consistency, thickness and shade of the shit is inconsequential.
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>>332923339
>Which part of the leaked information led you to believe it will be a gay pandering linear shitpile?


Bioware is doing it.
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>rehashing these dead games
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>>332931156
You forgot characters dipped in oil and hair physics that would have looked shameful in 2002.
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>>332930938
I wasn't the guy you quoted the last few times. Just chiming in.
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>>332931139
No, the afro-sporting, gold chain wearing, chest showing, break dancing, ebonics talking black character doesnt ever mention being black. He is a normal human being who happens to be colored differently.
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>>332926010
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>>332931281
BioWare is a brand. The people who made the last game arent making this one. They just work in the same building.
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>>332931406

When did Jacob do all this?
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>>332931406
Shiiiieeeettt
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Does it mean there's a chance that this game won't be SJW shit given that it's an entirely new studio essentially?
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>Frostbite
What is it with EA shoehorning this shit engine into EVERYTHING
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>>332931647
How were the previous games SJW shit?
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>>332931567
Jacob was never much of a black stereotype. But he was a horribly shit character. Dat romance...good fucking god.
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>>332931610
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>>332931693
No point in wasting money on developing a new engine when you have one already

TL;DR: money
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>>332923880
>inb4 they sell it to Bethesda
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>>332931697
Oh fuck off already.
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>>332931406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P4bh2UQsqs

>>332931567
Jacob wasnt black at all. He was just a white guy with the wrong texture on him.
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>>332931736

But the priiiiiiiice.
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>>332931567
When his loyalty mission was literally finding his rapist father and after the game he abandons FemShep's romance to knock up some slut.
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>>332931809
*priiiiiiize
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>>332931406
>>332931139

Why the fuck were there even different races in ME
I know it was only a couple hundred years in the future, but we'd all still probably be a pretty uniform shade of brown by then

>>332931537

Not him, but if we're talking brands Bioware has prided themselves on "diversity" and romance options for a while now, and their fans (ever been to the echochamber that is the BioWare forums?) expect this
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>>332931802
Well answer me already. I've asked 20 times now over the two threads, and I've gotten nothing but insults and deflection.

"All BioWare games are SJW gay pandering" is a /v/ meme. Nobody else thinks so, and there is no reason to think so.
Homosexual characters are always a small minority, and you are never forced into gay relationships.
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>>332930826
>the assistant is gay
>the random engine worker is gay
>a large portion of the main party is either gay or bi
>shepherd is bi
>edi is a fucking robot
>you're a nigger
>everybody who played the game was gay
Gg
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>>332931908
>ever been to the echochamber that is the BioWare forums?

Or the echochamber that is Battlenet? Or the echochamber that is the CDPR forums?
All of these one-purpose forums are always circlejerks.
Cant have a proper discussion on X, unless X is only a small part of what the community has in common. The X forums are always the worst place to talk about X.
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>>332931693

>Frostbite
>Shit engine

Is this a new meme?
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>>332930993
Source? This would actually make me buy this game.
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>>332931697
They made every character bi because >diversity
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>>332931928
Well there are a couple of things in Inquisition which suggest a new audience rather than the old Crpg fans

>Desire demons gone because "not everyone likes breasts"
>Sloth demons retconned and turned into "Despair" demons
>Quanari female warriors
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>>332931995
>i'l mention a few gay characters and proceed to shitpost to bad my message to a respectable size

Take the total number of NPCs. Divide them by the number of gay NPCs. See how many non-gay characters per gay characters.
After you are done with this simple math try to justify calling it a gay game.
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>>332932049
>best engine in games today
>IT"S TOTAL SHIT MAN

kekekeke
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>>332932120
You just said there was only 1 gay character. In a ship consisting of what maybe a 30 man crew 15 of them just about are gay or bi. Thats infuckingsane. Less than 4% of people are actually gay.
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>>332931693
>it has something to do with EA so it has to be shit
Nigger fuck off, that engine is fucking amazing.
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>>332932078
>Desire demons gone because "not everyone likes breasts"
>Sloth demons retconned and turned into "Despair" demons
>Quanari female warriors

All bad things that I disliked. None of them are gay pandering.
They are getting on with the times. Like it or hate it (and I hate it), but the pop culture is such that we cant have these things anymore.
I wish BioWare would stand against the critics, same as they did with the original Mass Effect (if you remember the big scandal around lesbian kiss cutscenes and popular media saying video games are turning kids gay), but they are now part of EA and need to take things safe.
I really wish we had the Origins models for the desire demons, and I really liked the sloth demon and the boss fight in the tower. I am sad to see them changed, as I am sad to see the quanari lore retconed, but that isnt gay pandering. Its just reading the market.
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>>332932029

The difference is that Blizz and CDPR didn't obsessively lurk their own forums for kudos and accolades like the BioWare devs used to and take certain suggestions to heart.
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>>332932120
>>332932251
So 15 are gay or bi, about 10 dont mention which way they swing and as far as I can remember the only time someone claimed to be straight was the one guy saying he was worried about his fucking wife and kids on a border planet.
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>>332932251

If you go to DA:I it's even worse. In a party of like 10 people you have a gay, a lesbian, a bi and a trans. I can see Bioware people yelling "LOOK AT US!! WE LOVE WEIRD PEOPLE AND PUT THEM INTO OUR GAMES!!"
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>>332931537
>brand
Bioware is a company. A company with a very poor track record and a terrible reputation for making games which has extremely awkward and forced gay romances solely as LGBTQO+ pandering for NO REASON relevant to the plot, and only to grab the attention of people who believe they cannot play a game unless they can sexually identify with the characters in it. Which is the worst pile of dogshit imaginable and makes you wonder just how insane the actual people at Bioware are to think this is a good justification for sacrificing time, resources and effort that always ends up being sorely missed in other areas of their very poorly made games.

>The people who made the last game arent making this one
There's no way the people who made the last terrible offerings wont meddle in this one to make sure their "artistic vision" remains untouched, and if they use the same engine, it's just going to be more of the same down to your squad mates trying to initiate a homosexual romance with you and you being labelled literal space Hitler should you refuse their advances. No hope for this franchise.
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>>332932251
>You just said there was only 1 gay character.
I said very small portion. Later I made an example of a theoretical game featuring one of this or that. You will notice Mass Effect doesnt have a dog or a pirate character either.

>half the people are gay or be
Only if you make them such. Your choices determine that.
You will never hear if Miranda is bisexual unless you explicitly work towards it.
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>>332932029
>echo chamber
To be fair, /v/ is one of the only boards left where you can tell someone that their taste is shit without getting banhammered. Just check out the threads on the BSN about how ugly the women in Cisqusition are, the OP gets either shitcanned right off the bat or shouted down by faggots with waifus in their signature.
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>>332932428
Adding on to this less than .3 percent of americans are trans. So WHAT ARE THE FUCKING CHANCES IN A MYTHICAL REALM WERE YOU HAVE PREJUDICES OF HAVING POINTY FUCKING EARS OR HAVING THE ABILITY TO USE MAGIC WOULD IT BE OKAY TO BE TRANS?

>>332932504
Now you're just moving goalposts anon fuck off.
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>>332932536
>To be fair, /v/ is one of the only boards left where you can tell someone that their taste is shit without getting banhammered.

Yeah, the circlejerk here is more vulgar than the circlejerk at the Bioware forums.
Doesnt change the fact that if you are against the popular opinion you wont be allowed to properly discuss anything.
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>>332932062
Look up Bioware Montreal. They handled ME2's dlcs, ME3MP and, now, ME:A.
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>>332932583
Stop giving him replies. He's a pathetic bored shitposter.
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>>332932656

More like desperate marketer
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>>332932583
You misread my post. I corrected you. And I am moving goalposts?
In that line of thought, your previous post is a strawman, since you attacked a claim I never made.

Learn to read, lad.
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>>332932656

Faggot detected.
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FUCKING KROGAN? SERIOUSLY!?
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>>332932636
Neat, shadow broker and overlord were great.
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>>332932617
It's not even much of a circle jerk. Even the fallout generals are, much to my surprise, almost completely free from waifu shitposting and general circle jerking. There's tons of head butting going on. The worst that can happen is that a tripfag had a bad day and starts attention whoring, luckily they are easily filtered.
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>>332931808
>He was just a white guy with the wrong texture on him.
Actually his texture was just the regular white human texture darkened in photoshop. As evidenced by letting him fuck male shepard in the asshole, you can see the exact same birthmarks on their rears and backs.
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>FEMALE TURIAN ROMANCE
FEMALE TURIAN ROMANCE
>FEMALE TURIAN ROMANCE
FEMALE TURIAN ROMANCE
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>>332932049
Look at that leg floating.
Amazing.
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>>332932924
Trying to imply Bioware's game design philosophy doesnt revolve around gay sex gets you nothing but insults and strawmen.
Good luck getting serious replies on any topic that /v/ in general has some set in stone opinion on.
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>>332932741
>>332923404
>>332930705
>>332932741

I'm not that anon, nor do I like the recent games put out from bioware, but I find it weird how he displays arguments yet all of you reply with "shill" or "marketer".

That kind of stuff is only possible in an echo chamber/hivemind
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>>332932965
Wasn't that a different black guy?
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>>332933072

>I can't into perspective
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>>332932504
>You will notice Mass Effect doesnt have a dog or a pirate character either.
WHAT?! BUT I IDENTIFY AS A PIRATE DOG
BIOWARE FUCKING FIX THIS OR I WILL BOYCOTT YOUR GAME!
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>>332931358
>that webm
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>>332923997
It's so funny how people fall for that shit everytime. "It's just a beta!" If I had a fucking dollar for everytime I heard that.

I remember following that logic like one or two times about 6 or 7 years ago, but quickly corrected myself. It's funny that people STILL do this.
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>>332933131
The game design doesn't revolve around their characters sexuality, that'd be absurd. But much of their character design and side content does. Add to that the general terrible nature of Biowares writing staff trying to check off a diversity box and you get a recipe for disaster.
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>>332932772
This is why nobody will ever take you seriously anon. You were wrong. You never refuted any of my points and just pretended like you were right anyway. You are a close minded idiot.
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>>332923052
It looks like shit
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Has the diversity quota been filled in yet? Where is the black, arab, asian, tranmisogonicfurryxirnoncisgenderedotherkin at?
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>>332933326
It isnt beta. It isnt alpha. It is literally just showing off particle effects done in the engine. There is nothing else shown. Its reused Battlefront and Mass Effect 3 models showing off the jetpack code and the particles.

The "its just beta" shitpost doesnt apply.
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>>332933225
You're not serious, right? You're just pretending to be retarded?
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>>332932536
>To be fair, /v/ is one of the only boards left where you can tell someone that their taste is shit without getting banhammered.

Doesn't change the fact that factual arguments are dismissed by personal preference.
It's all well and fine for someone to like shit, as long as they are aware that and why it's shit. And that shit is hurting the quality of things.
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>>332933371
You never made any points.
What is there to refute?

My post >>332930826 reads:
>The fact is that a very, very small portion of Mass Effect NPCs ever mention their relationships, and a small portion of them mention a gay relationship.

You take that to mean ONE GAY CHARACTER, which wasnt implied at all. You created a strawman, attacked it, and act as if you won the argument.
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I don't think anyone who liked Dragon Age Origins or Mass Effect would be dumb enough to ever buy another Bioware product, so I sure hope the SJW's are bringing in the big bucks because they are going to need it.
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>>332926264
>space racist
>literally turned her into a race-mixing abomination in the third game

Biowhores everybody
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>>332933585
Retards will get hyped and disappointed again, vow to never buy another Bioware title again for the 5th time.
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Who was in the wrong here?
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>>332925635
Is there any gaming-related companies CEO who actually looks like they play, or are at least interested in making good video games?

Only one I can think of is Gabe.
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>>332933659
She wasn't even racist, though. Just had distrust of formerly hostile aliens on an Alliance ship.
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>MASS EFFECT IS SJW SHIT REEEEEEEEEE

You idiots are thinking of Dragon Age. It took the Mass Effect devs three games to include a single gay romance. The games are leaning /pol/ if anything, the main themes include nationalism, the different species are actually different from each other instead of just being weird-looking humans, and you have the options to go full space Hitler at points.
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>>332933585
I liked Origins and Mass Effect and I never bought any of them. I have made it a point to not pay for EA games after Spore, and I have never done so.
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>>332933795
No option to kill both or just let the strongest win.

NICE CHOICES BIOWARE.
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>>332933550
>you never made any points
I pointed out that 50% of the crew will openly admit to being bi or gay while gays make up less than 4% of the population. I pointed out that only 1, let me type it again ONE, member of the crew admits to being straight. That is a gross missrepresentation. In more recent games its only gotten worse as other anon said where in DA:I you have trans, gays, and fucking hippokin bullshit going on. Fuck off. You don't want to debate you want to preach and nobody here is eating your bullshit. If you want to be taken seriously learn to be open fucking minded. Normally I wouldnt waste time on a shotposter like you but i was a dick to somebody earlier on accident and owe one to karma just take the help or dont. Just at least stop being a fucking idiot.
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>>332931358
SWEDEN NO
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>>332933795
Bioware.
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>>332923052

The MP in ME3 was great. I am hoping they make Andromeda single player and take the ME3 MP team to make a free to play co op shooter like Warframe.
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>>332933858
You had gay romances in the first Mass Effect game though.
TV and newspapers were all over it saying it is teaching out kids to be gay, there was a lot of talk about it outside the vidya industry.
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>>332933585
There are not enough big budget RPGs and too many RPG fans to ever have a big budget RPG fail. As long as it looks somewhat shiny, offers a boat load of seemingly important choices and a core gameplay loop that isn't too boring people will buy it. If they weren't so expensive to make, we'd be drowning in them.
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>>332933858
>single gay romance
>not miranda
>not half the fucking crew of the normandy in 3
Go wash your face anon. Use cold water.
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>>332923052

>Already looks outdated and it isnt even out

Never change Bioware.
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>>332933795

Both had good and bad points.

Morith
>She's a Space Vampire
>She never decided to become one.

Samara
>She's a Space Vampire hunter
>It's not very moral to hunt down people for being born in a diferent way than the others.
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>>332934029
>I am hoping they make Andromeda single player and take the ME3 MP team to make a free to play co op shooter like Warframe.

>A mix of ME3 multiplayer and Warframe
I've dreamt of this. It would be fucking awesome.
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>>332923052
Well at least the faces don't look like melting plastic dolls
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>>332934000
This
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>>332933858
>the different species are actually different from each other instead of just being weird-looking humans
Have you ever played any of the Mass Effect games? 99% of the aliens are PRECISELY that, blue lesbian humans, insectoid humans, little fat Hebrew humans. Almost every single race has two legs and two feet and the head in the same place as a human would. The only exception in the Hanar and they are just so terribly written it hurts.
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>>332933585
Sadly DA:I was my last hope. I believe that story is their main strength but they either dont pay attention to what they write or add in progressive elements to destroy characters and story. I love the combat but its so hard to play a game that is centered around a story that begs to be taken seroiusly and then completely miss points, again and again.
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>>332923782
>Gary Vakarian
People need to learn to read.
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>>332933946
>50% of the crew
This number is wrong, even if you take all possible gay romances at the same time, which you cant.
In any one given playthrough this will be even lower.
And lower still if you dont go out of your way and work towards making a character have a homo relationship with the protagonist.

Using your logic you can say that all characters in Harvest Moon are gay, making the game full on homo propaganda.
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>>332934197
Hanar and the quadriped heavy things.

Having arms > Not having arms.
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>>332934119
>Never change Bioware.
You say that as if they could change even if they wanted to.
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>>332923052
>krogans confirmed to return
Based, krogans are bro-tier
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>>332934197
Name a space anything where aliens arent space humans 90% of the time.
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>>332934135
>It's not very moral to hunt down people for being born in a diferent way than the others.
Not very moral to murder people for the adrenaline rush either. Real vampires need it to survive but blue space vampires just get orgasms from it.
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>>332934232
You are assuming that people posting in this thread have played the game.
Protip: since GamerGate half the posters on /v/ are not into video games at all, which is why non-vidya threads are always the most popular.
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>>332934330
>have to gas them again
Fuck's sake.
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>>332923052
This is the alpha from 2014. I assume the graphics and gameplay will be different after two whole years.
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>Krogans are still fucking assholes

I like it.
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>>332934330
I thought I got rid of those frogniggers. Can you kill them and sell their parts for traditional aay medicine?
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>>332934295
>quadriped heavy things.
Literally gorillas without necks, which is still humanoids.
You know why all aliens tend to look the same in films? Because there needs to be room for a guy inside a suit. Video games don't need this but the concept artists still decide to design the characters as if they did.
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>>332934441
>alpha

For fucks sake, its not alpha. It is literally a few prefabs dragged into an empty level in the editor.
Have you fags never used a game engine before?

Its like doodling two characters on a white piece of paper and saying thats the alpha for your new graphics novel.
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>>332934197
>Almost every single race has two legs and two feet and the head in the same place as a human would.

That's called biolocical consistency. Every mammal on Earth has 4 tips and we all evolved in diferent enviroments with diferent needs.
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>>332923052
To be fair, you should mention that that stuff is old as fuck, pre-alfa gameplay from 2013-2014. We should not expect this at E3, but something better.

At least, the facial animations are already different and more realistic in that footage.
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>>332934509
A humanoid form is vastly superior to non-humanoids though. If you can't use tools, you won't get to space. Well, maybe some kind of octopus things could work, but that's essentially the Hanar.
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