I just finished the "platinum" demo and this game is a steaming pile of garbage.
>shitty combat (even worse than TW3 combat)
>characters movement is clunky, imprecise, and feel too artificial
>game looks and runs like shit
>main character looks like he belongs to a k-bob fuckboy band
I can't believe the amount of shilling this shitty game is getting on /v/.
>inb4 muh open world
Welcome to 10 years ago, weebs.
>inb4 git gud
Holding circle is not really hard. The game is so easy that you can play it blind. Find a better meme, shill.
>inb4 t-t-the combat is d-d-deep but you have to move the stick slightly by 66 degrees to see how cool it is
Yeah it's still shit. No one care that you can do flashy moves if you move the left stick to different directions.
>inb4 muh shield
The combat is shit, a shield is not going to fix it. fuck off.
all that mad
enjoy being a total loser when it comes to video games
Trap thread
>>332919875
I know it's gonna be shit but I'm still gonna get it because why not, what else am I gonna play on the ps4 anyways
>>332919875
Anon, are you retarded? Everyone has already played the demo, you aren't warning anyone
/v/ loves Witcher 3 which has combat just as bad as FFXV so yeah, everyone will shill it here.
>>332919875
lol retard. get a life.
>>332919875
>autist sperglord opinion
>if i use buzzwords/stutter speech and memes it validates my reasoning haha!
ff15 might be a huge flop but pls tone it down and move on with your day
>>332919875
>k-bob
Kabob?
>>332919875
I don't think anyone fell for it.
It's a classic trainreck waiting to happen.
>>332919875
/v/ is full of weebs who have no standards. They will buy this game and like it just because it's made by nips.
>>332919875
>I can't believe the amount of shilling this shitty game is getting on /v/.
what you expect? 4chan is mainstream now
ebin shitpost OP
>"ALL I DID WAS HOLD CIRCLE THAT'S HOW I KNOW THIS COMBAT SUCKS"
Except it's been confirmed multiple times that using directions with your buttons literally changes the move being performed and that holding circle is just for trash mobs
>"T-THEY LOOK LIKE A J-POP BAND"
Yes and? Are you somehow upset that the initial party is all guys because you wanted a "waifu", give me a fucking break
>"OPEN WORLD IS SO 2001"
Yet this is a first for a Final Fantasy game which, after FFXIII is a welcome change so I don't get your whining
>"T-The framerate is like at 2 FPS, HAHA!"
The framedrops are there but like Episode Duscae we can't really be able to tell if the full game will be like this because the demos aren't meant to be optimized.
>"S-Shield won't fix the gameplay..."
Except it adds more options to your defense, and as previously stated, just because you didn't feel like learning how combat works doesn't make it bad, it just means you personally didn't feel like actually playing the game before shitposting on /v/.
The game has more going on to it but as it stands we also don't have much to go off of until the combat demo closer to release, stop adding to the five or so FFXV threads we already have going on just to spew hot memes
>by playing the demo I can clarify the full game is shit
wew
>>332924140
>"OPEN WORLD IS SO 2001"
>Yet this is a first for a Final Fantasy game
Anon we need to talk.
>>332920016
This is exactly the kind of mindset killing gaming
man.... I wish the combat was better. That was the one thing I was hyped about
at least there is still Persona 5
>>332924140
>Yet this is a first for a Final Fantasy game
MODS!!!!!!
>>332920029
>/v/ loves Witcher 3 which has combat just as bad as FFXV so yeah, everyone will shill it here.
maybe its because the TW3 combat was the weakest part of the game and everthing else was really good, unless FF15 pull something like that (which it doubt after all the japs still insist on puting fuccbois as MCs) the game is going to suck ass.
Even though I've waited for FF15 for 10 years, I'm not about to go buy a PS4 just for this, Persona 5 and possibly Uncharted 4. I know after I finish these games, it will collect dust as a paperweight.
I hope FF15 turns out to be a good game, sells well and makes me regret not buying it though. Being hyped for 10 years for a game that turns out to be shit is soul crushing.
>>332919875
sounds like you have a bad case of needing to get some taste
you'll fit in here fine, though.
>Hold button to stand there auto attacking
>You don't even attack whats infront of you, your character locks onto the nearest enemy and goes flying towards them
>Hold dodge button to auto dodge around
>But there are some attacks you can't dodge!! So we give you a QTE instead.
>Heres a mana bar and some nicely animated magic spells
>But its FF8 style where casts are finite unless you get more pick ups for them.
>Play getting guided around by floating mcguffins like this is a fucking platformer.
>This heavily furfag influenced carbuncle shit
I have no words. 50 years of development time and this is all they have to show
>WAH WHY ARE THE WEEB GAMES GETTING MORE ATTENTION THAN MY CLEARLY SUPERIOR WESTERN SWORDY SHIELDY SHIT IN A FIELDY 7
>>332919875
>I just finished the "platinum" demo
Stand back people, we have a pro critic here
>>332924589
Good thing you're here to point the flaws in the system, how else are we gonna learn
>>332925754
But Dark Souls is a JRPG and it does combat 100 times better than any other title.
>>332925716
>furfag influenced carbuncle shit
The fuck am I reading.
>>332925716
The biggest condemnation is how long they have been working on it for and how little innovation they have to show for it. It's fucking cringeworthy.
>still working on optimization
>still working on input lag
>still working on basic combat mechanics
>MFW 10 years wasn't enough time
>>332925358
It's a shame they don't pander to your bald space marine tastes, the game would be so much better
>>332926047
>meanwhile the Enix part of your company still makes great games
how embarassing
>>332925970
>DS
>Better than cuhrayzee
I hate neo new /v/
>>332926159
>cuhrayzee
>literally holding down a button for combos
so crazy bro
so crazy
>>332924140
>"ALL I DID WAS HOLD CIRCLE THAT'S HOW I KNOW THIS COMBAT SUCKS"
It doesn't matter. If all you need to do to win is hold down circle, then it doesn't matter how intricate or deep the combat is/can be. Because you can coast through it. It's nice that there is style and fun, but theres no point.
>>"OPEN WORLD IS SO 2001"
No it's not
Did people expect a arpg? Button smashing game?
>>332926247
MUSIC
PEOPLE
GOOD VIBRATIONS
>>332919875
>I just finished the demo
>and this game
what game?
I only have a demo
>>332919941
>>332926293
it's not even a button mashing game because you hold down the button to attack automatically
AGREED
>>332919875
>I just finished the "platinum" demo
Why do you act like you're some special person for doing so?
>>332925970
According to some idiots here Dark Souls in in fact not a JRPG,
FIGHT!!!! FIGHT!!!
>>332926047
the game hasn't been in development for 10 years, they even admitted that during its vs 13 phase it was all just tech demo shit and real development didn't start on the game until like 2011
Spurge harder I guess
>>332926159
>Dark Souls
>Not curhhayyzeee
You haven't seen the DS3 weapon arts have you?
>>332926247
This post is so cancerous that i actually want to kill myself.
>>332919875
What an autist you are, OP
>>332926519
>it's not real development
oh my fuck
>>332926528
>DS3 weapon arts
>cuhrayzee
please don't be ignorant
>>332926440
It's not. Its a wrpg made by the Japanese. Like how south park sot is a jrpg made by the west.
>>332926440
how is dark souls a jrpg lmao, its a japanese made action game, that translates to a jrpg now with turn based combat and power of friendship plotline?
Neo /v/ is a garbage pile
>>332926531
please do
>truthposting is shitposting
>>332926570
spurging harder I see
>>332919875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxSwEL7SPo0
i like it
>>332926635
found the retard
>10 years waiting for a mediocre game
>KH3 got delayed for this garbage
>>332926635
>jrpg now with turn based combat and power of friendship plotline?
>>332926790
silky smooth
sub 30 fps
>>332919875
lol so mad xD
>>332926790
it looks so fun
>tfw no PC port
>>332926819
>>332926882
so its a jrpg cause its japanese and has rpg elements, k
So is DMC I guess, I mean its japanese and you can level up your shit so
>>332926790
>90% is just the player holding a single button down
What happened to video games?
Haven't played it yet going to get the chance on Monday.
Despite peoples concerns about combat how does everything else hold up?
>>332927003
this fucking guy
>>332927003
You literally have to roleplay something in dark souls, it's the only way to play it.
>>332927037
>Graphics
Steller
>Art direction
Okay
>Framerate
Mostly stable, occasional drops
>Animations
Very fluid
>Story, tone and atmosphere
Cringy JRPG stuff about the power of friendship
>>332925358
>everything else was really good
Like?
>quests all revolved around following red shit
>dialogue options had literally 2-3 options at most
>less choices than Fallout 4
>story was a generic "GOTTA SAVE MUH BABEH WHO" who was always in "ANOTHER CASTLE"
>Underwritten main villains (Wild Hunt) who were cartoonishly evil
>literally a worse ending than Mass Effect 3 (Ciri dies if you didn't snowball fight her because, White Frost out of nowhere who the star chi- I mean "Ciri" is somehow able to defeat with zero explanation)
Witcher 3 was mediocre on all fronts. People liked it for the same reasons they liked the other 2 mediocre games. They liked the world and they liked the characters, not the games themselves.
Why do you think the playercount is in the single digits now?
>>332926898
Hey now! That's against a single enemy without your party clogging up the screen. Don't judge - just wait until the full game releases and your party of 4 needs to go up against multiple highly detailed enemies in a more graphically interesting environment - with more spells and particle effects going on.
Don't worry, we will get your Sony approved PS4 compatible "Final Fantasy Themed" Windows Powerpoint.
>>332927092
The best way to play it is throw it in the trash because it's a shit game.
Other anon has a point tho It's not a jrpg if DMC isn't.
>>332919875
So this is it huh? /v/ filled with Casuals? While most of the demo IS filler tech demo shit, that final fight with the golem and the vastly improved combat system makes it all worth it.
Seriously, you niggas can do aerial combat, all sorts of blocks and dodges, each weapon has multiple special moves, and a surprising amount of depth for a stripped down demo.
Oh, and if you do use the right timing, YOU CAN perfect dodge cancel from MOST attack animations- there are some that you can't (mostly great sword), air attacks you must use an aerial rave dodge, which has more strict timing and doesn't require any presses of square at all. Not every attack can be dodged by holding down square. Some attacks you must have pressed square within a certain time frame of the enemies attack.
I uploaded some videos of me doing fun stuff in the fight, maybe it can inspire you fags to not be total casuals and to try and learn the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbNCiVzzYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UqiPl5laU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYanAX2AlVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcQLsRRMLQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxSwEL7SPo0
>be 15
>at lunch with my nerd friends
>they talk about Final Fantasy vs 13
>sounds interesting
>fast forward ten years later
>i'm engaged with a child on the way
>get home from work after downloading demo via PS4 app
>beat it 30 mins later
>bored, distraught, concerned, angry, feel abused
>>332926969
they already hinted at one, but I fear they're aiming for DX12
Honestly, the Platinum demo really is terrible.
>It's a tech demo!
Most people won't understand that, what people will experience is a braindead combat system, dated graphics and shit performance.
Even if the final game has none of the above, this demo has already damaged the FFXV image. From a marketing standpoint, this was a terrible idea.
>>332927630
>they already hinted at one
>>332919875
kill yourself flex
>>332927008
No it isn't you fucking shitposter.
Sword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Stab
Circle + Down: Backflip strike
Circle + Left: Left spin strike
Circle + Right: Right spin strike
Air Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Air + Down: Downwards strike
Triangle: Warp strike
Greatsword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
: Charge up strike
Shuriken -
Circle: Combo (hold=fast combo, tap=slow combo)
Circle + Up: -
Circle + Down: Early combo finisher
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
Air + Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Traingle: Warp strike (multiple hits)
Shield -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Slow spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right -
Circle, pause, hold circle (Circle, back step, hold circle): Forward charge (works mid range)
Square (hold): Keep shield up, take less damage
Square (at impact of attack): stuns enemy shortly, prevents taking damage
>>332927552
>married at 25 with a kid
Lemme guess, she was your first?
>>332927698
go be a platform warring retarded somewhere else
>>332927662
the combat is only braindead if you play it like you're braindead
>>332927741
if i married my first, i would have a STD living in some shit neighborhood supporting her ass and her 2 kids
>>332925716
>This heavily furfag influenced carbuncle shit
I know your post is all about bait but have you ever seen FFXIV Carbuncle?
>>332927831
>"may"
http://www.gamepur.com/news/21551-final-fantasy-xv-not-coming-pc-square-enix.html
>""Really?! Where did you hear this? If anything, it is a misunderstanding. There will be no PC port. We never planned for it. "
>>332927003
I swear this board gets more retarded by the hour.
>>332925970
>Dark Souls combat
>Good
wew
>>332928034
>2015
Nice try retard.
This thread is just dogshit.
>>332919914
Anon..if he is this mad over a justdemo he is more than just a loser when it comes to video games.
>>332928153
>getting this madNEVER EVER
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>>332928186
Get a life dude, seriously.
>>332928279
>he can't handle the bantz>just like he can't handle the fact that he will never EVER play FFXV
>>332928061
While I don't want to argue whether Souls games are RPGs or not people do think that having one single RPG element is enough to make an RPG which is funny because games without something like leveling up / ranking up are far and between nowadays.
Best FFXV footage on the net right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YiVWlRi9E
>>332928393
I have a PS4 you fucking idiot.
Not everyone here is a poorfag like you who does nothing but shitpost constantly.
>>332928393
>he can't handle the bantz
>consolefags
>handling bantz
Can't wait for you to whine about how PC "ruined the community"
>>332928467
man the full game is going to be fun as fuck
>>332928524
>I have a PS4 you fucking idiot.
Sure thing,singleplatform PCuck
>>332928535
PC won't get to ruin the FFXV community
>>332919875
After FFXIII I've learned to not take anyone's opinion on a Final Fantasy game seriously.
I fucking loved FFXIII.
>>332927502
So this is it huh? /v/ filled with a bunch of Copy pasta? While most of this post is filler carbs and shit, that final "v" in the CTRL-V has been vastly improved. With a new system of copying and pasting it makes it all worth reading again.
Seriously, you niggas can do real original posting, all sorts of exposition and commentary. Each post can have multiple opinions and a surprising amount of logic and nuance for a stripped down autist.
Oh, and if you do use the right kind of sentence structure YOU CAN pass 8th grade English with the SMALLEST of effort on your part. There are some that will say that no matter what you do (mostly shitposters) you will always come off as a desperate sonygger hanging your hat on finally getting more gaems with a shit tier decade old developmental train wreck that's not even an exclusive. Sometimes you just need to listen and believe.
I uploaded some videos of you doing fun stuff in the fight, maybe it can inspire you fags to not be total shills and to try and learn the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nr5iSbVFk
https://youtu.be/fxfIp14-6Ww?t=7m24s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7rw8zvNv3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
>>332928393
what bantz
you were just shut down then started acting extremely retarded (and still are)
>>332928626
you must lead a really sad life
>>332928623
I'm not sure. It's so easy to do this stuff that I get little satisfaction from it. They need to remove that auto buffer air dashing for it to be challenging.
>>332919875
Autism is a terrible condition.
>>332919875
>open world
>10 years ago
Open world games are now more popular than ever, so I have no idea what the fuck you're on about.
>>332919875
The world looks nice and I'll enjoy exploring it, also I won't comment about the story since it's not out.
That said, the gameplay is just not good. It's incredibly clunky and unresponsive and the combat system is DmC tier simple.
>>332928034
They need to sell 10 million copies to break even.
The game runs like shit on current gen consoles
SE have had close ties with Nvidia in developing their new game engine.
>tfw neither console uses nvidia hardware.
Enjoy your 15fps train wreck.
>>332928995
Good thing it's an ARPG and not an action game, then.
>>332929142
That didn't stop Dragon's Dogma, another open-world party based game.
>>332929142
KH and the souls series are both arpgs and they have combat that isn't shit.
This game has no excuse.
>>332929142
>It's an arpg so it's okay if the combat is shit
>>332929012
>They need to sell 10 million copies to break even.
No they don't. That's just Tabata's personal goal.
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2016/04/final-fantasy-xv-needs-to-sell-10-million-units-to-be-a-success/
>>332929194
dragon's dogma combat is good in every way besides having combat variety. There is no creative freedom because of the small skill sets.
>>332919875
Where's FFXV-Kuns damage control these days?
Has he admitted defeat after the latest downgrade?
>>332925430
>was 16 when it got announced
>am now 26
>play the demo last night
>10 years of disappointment all come crushing down
It was hard for me to accept that Tabata really made the gameplay shit.
>>332920016
>what else am I gonna play on the ps4 anyways
There are plenty of good games this year. You are just a shit eating casual
>>332919941
Sauce please, I've never been able to find what this is.
>>332929765
>not knowing asanagi
![[BFS]_Bakuman_S3_-_12_[720p][F6ACB307].mkv_snapshot_09.13_[2012.12.30_13.02.38].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AZv9IQi.jpg "[BFS]_Bakuman_S3_-_12_[720p][F6ACB307].mkv_snapshot_09.13_[2012.12.30_13.02.38].jpg")
>no air launcher
>no air linker
>almost no cancelling
>input lag
>hold down button and move analog stick for "combos"
PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS GOOD COMBAT
Dragon Dogma 2 when Capcom?s
>>332929012
>to break even
Incorrect
>runs like shit
It does, my standard is 60fps and it doesn't reach that. However, in comparison to a whole slew of other immensely popular console games, it runs perfectly fine.
>close ties with Nvidia
This doesn't imply it'll run shit on consoles retard.
Just stop posting on 4chan, I highly recommend finishing high school.
>>332930006
>it's not Devil May Cry with muh juggles so it's bad
playing final fantasy
post 2001
shiggity diggity
>>332930006
>talking shit about the combat
>likes Dragon's Dogma
kek
Also we've seen an air launcher in the trailers.
>>332930006
There's already DDO
>>332930006
So wait let me get this straight, you're complaining about all those things and yet are begging for a sequel to a game with HORRENDOUS combat mechanics? What a retard.
>>332930006
Get back to me after you master the Aerial Rave dodges and consistently chain into warpstrikes.
>>332926047
>The biggest condemnation is how long they have been working on it for and how little innovation they have to show for it. It's fucking cringeworthy.
>10 FUCKING YEARS
>>332930268
>>332930236
>FF15fags trying to claim DD has bad combat
>>332926878
It's time to grow up!
>>332927724
>Aethetic changes to combos
Let me know when directional inputs significantly change hitboxes, timing, or add new properties to attacks.
>>332930268
leave this board
>>332930347
You are talking to people who are completely unaware of how input demand and reactive complexity improve action gameplay by leagues.
They simply cannot understand.
>>332930347
It does. The only reason anyone gives a single shit about DD is because of the climbing mechanic.
>>332929645
Good PS4 games this year?
Could you give more examples? I'm going to buy new Guilty Gear and Nier.
>>332929765
Just by glancing at it, it's clearly a genderbent Kancolle doujin.
>shill shill shill shill shill
Plenty of fucking people have called out the flaws of the game. Hell, most threads are full of it. You're not a special snowflake, fuck off.
>>332930395
see
>>332930323
>>332927324
>That pic
Yeah, let's compare a game which is steam only and notorious for it's longevity due to autistic modder that fap to naked elf and another game that have been release on multiple plateform sur as GoG in addition to Steam. That way, comparing biased number will TOTALLY give us an clue of quality
That's retarded as fuck.
Then again, the rest of the post being equally retarded, I wasn't expecting much of the picture.
how the fuck do I get to do the charged greatsword attack?
>>332930472
>The only reason anyone gives a single shit about DD is because of the climbing mechanic
Yep, that and the magic looks awesome. The game itself isn't that great.
>>332930656
attack - waiting until weapon is about to disappear - press and hold attack - let it go when particles disappear for max damage
let go too soon or charge too long and the attack will be weak
>>332930391
Fuck you, KH has solid gameplay
>>332930006
Don't forget
>Directional attacks only change aesthetics
>Air "resets" are done with a one button fixes all warp after moves are done instead of cancelling with a real dodge or jump
>No magic traps or linkers
>No grapples or throw type finishers/linkers
>>332930586
>Get back to me after you master a one button reset through warp
Are you fucking kidding me? Get back to me when you actually manage your first jump cancel in a real action game.
>>332930586
Holy fuck how'd you pull a multiple air dodge like that? Could only do once at a time during a combo.
>>332927502
Why would you play this? It seems just like a much easier, shittier DMC.
>>332930814
>in a real action game.
oh boy here we go
let me guess, you're going to bring up DMC aren't you?
>>332925716
>Hold button to stand there auto attacking
>You don't even attack whats infront of you, your character locks onto the nearest enemy and goes flying towards them
Thanks for ruining all high budget action games in the foreseeable future, Rocksteady.
>>332930936
This shit game doesn't even compare to mediocre shit like KH
>people complaining that the combat in an FF game isn't Devil May Cry
>people complaining that the combat in an FF game is easy
over 25 games. over 29 years.
>>332930936
>>332930883
haha here we fucking go the obnoxious dmc retardds who think every game should be a dmc cloneas a dmc fan myself it hurts to be associated with these tards[/spoilers]
>>332930936
>Pretend the game has good combat and people can't pull of simple moves
>People say that for anyone who's played a real action game the moves are simple and boring
>Hurr durr why are you bringing up action games!
I'm talking about button inputs and how hard they are to pull off. Stop fucking talking about incredibly basic gameplay like it's some high skill ceiling shit that people besides you can't do.
>>332925716
>You don't even attack whats infront of you, your character locks onto the nearest enemy and goes flying towards them
BAMHAM COMBAT
fuck that
I wish they'd just turn off the combat, the game would work as a walking sim sort of thing but with more exploration.
Or replace it with XIII's or LR's.
>>332931058
Haha here we fucking go, the "DMC fan" in name only who can't find his shift key pretends his opinion matters.
People expected the game to play like KH but better. KH is an action rpg by the same studio. This plays like shit, and there's no fucking excuse.
>>332930767
They need to have listed each combo in the demo desu.
>>332930395
They do, to use his own list
>Circle + Up: Stab
high critical hit chance.
>Circle + Down: Backflip strike
Complete Invincibility during the backflip, can even use it to dodge otherwise undodgable attacks.
>spin strikes
Cancels out current animations- can be used for combos
Greatsword charge strike adds superarmor to 1 hit, lets you charge up for big damage
Greatsword spin strike hits 5 times, hits around you in a big AOE circle
>Shield
Perfect timed blocks, stun attacks, long range shield charge attack
>>332931184
you know you're a cuck when you want more XIII
>>332930064
Reading comprehension
The Nvidia link means it will come to PC since neither console uses Nvidia hardware.
>>332931263
You know you're a fedora tipping meme meister when you pretend XIII is bad and actually uses the work cuck.
>hurr turnbased sucks
>baaaww why are action game fans shitting on this braindead basic as fuck game
>>332927037
Get the shield and shuriken, and read this >>332927724
>>332931208
I think they wanted people to discover shit for themselves until they release a full gameplay demo.
>>332931338
>I think they wanted people to discover shit
That's exactly what we discovered. So mission accomplished.
>>332931206
Oh now it has to play like KH. Is there any single original thought in your brain? Not everything has to be a clone of something else.
>>332931216
>high critical hit chance.
>Complete Invincibility during the backflip, can even use it to dodge otherwise undodgable attacks.
Is there actual source on this or is it speculation?
>Cancels out current animations- can be used for combos
What's the actual startup time on it, if it's going to be used as a cancel?
The last two just say that the big slow weapon has a big slow heavy hitter, and the shield can block. That's what they're supposed to do.
>>332931404
clever girl
>>332931424
>Oh now it has to play like KH.
>2013 trailer gets everyone hyped
>Looks like KH on steroids
>At that time, being directed by KH director
>KH is an action rpg as well
Yes, the combat should have been as good, if not better than KH, not this clunky slow shit.
Are you shills fucking retarded?
>>332931467
>Is there actual source on this or is it speculation?
Try playing the fucking demo you imbecile. That flip dodge was in ED too.
>>332919875
>even worse then TW3 combat
Come on, 155 replies to this awful bait.
>>332931308
XIII is fucking bad you retard. The gameplay was the worst part of the whole game. The hallways were better. XIII was Square's first show of "muh graphics and cinematics" and it showed. Even XIII existed in tech demo format ahead of actually having real gameplay for it's trailers.
XI and XII were way better in the gameplay department for getting away from random "Battle" scenes so you could actually just fight in the real open world.
>>332931568
The combat isn't clunky at all, nor is it slow.
Go shitpost somewhere else.
Every time one of you assblasted manbabies make one of these threads shitting on FF15, you only make me more smug about my purchase. I like video games and I like making idiots mad on the internet, so when my purchasing and playing video games makes idiots on the internet mad, it's like fucking Christmas.
Keep crying.
>>332931604
>Comment on stat changes on frames in a move
>PLAY THE DEMO
Next level retardation.
>>332931086
For once the challenge is the enemies themselves and not fighting the controller.
>>332931718
why do you care at all though
>>332931710
>The combat isn't clunky at all, nor is it slow.
You've never played a game with real time combat in your life, have you?
>>332931718
>I'm 12!
I hope your mom's boyfriend gives you enough allowance to buy the game when it comes out!
>>332931568
>Looks like KH on steroids
Whoever ever said this is a massive retard, and I'm going to take a wild guess and say you were one of them.
>>332931338
The majority of people won't discover it themselves so they never get the satisfaction of enjoying it so they dislike the combat and prefer duscae
I still feel would have like a few different enemies to try again or even just a training dummy to practice on.
>>332931890
again with this comparison shit - not every game has to be the exact same
the combat in the demo is nowhere near clunky nor is it slow
>>332931718
You think you wasting your money on garbage makes us mad?
Are you 12?
>>332931206
>KH combat
You mean mashing X to attack, Square to block/dodge roll, Triangle to QTE, and everything else being menu based? There aren't advanced techniques in KH either. Nothing like this aerial rave, or the greatsword charge attack. You know what an Air Combo in KH is? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>>332931676
Well, you're beyond help. Don't you dare reply to my posts ever again.
>>332931752
>and not fighting the controller
You're right, by removing focus on the actual gameplay and player input, we can instead focus on those sweet cinematics!
>>332931904
I know you're not old enough to remember watching with 2013 demo, but you should give it a watch.
>>332931890
>You've never played a game with real time combat in your life, have you?
Yes, I have. I'm not saying this game is like any other game, I'm saying it isn't clunky. Stop changing the subject.
>>332919875
>Welcome to 10 years ago, weebs.
Well, it DID start development 10 years ago, so.......
>>332931424
The problem is all I see you fags doing is warping in and out over and over and over again. To be frank, it looksboring.It doesn't have to be the same as DMC or KH, but if the combat is bad why would you play it
>>332931467
The greatsword is actually a good combo tool if you know how to work it in. each hit with it recharge MP, and most of your combo extending moves cost MP. The greatsword spin attack is really fast, and its charge attack has super armor.
Even if the gameplay was good I still wouldn't play this fujoshi pandering trash.
>>332931991
>You can't have standards!
>The game is great if you don't compare it to anything!
The shilling is getting pathetic.
>>332932020
I mean a responsive character, an air launcher, an air linker, magic that can be linked into combos and a guard button that responds to me in a timely fashion.
The more I look at it, the more I think the graphics are damn good.
>>332932114
have you even tried playing it for yourself or do you just enjoy shitposting about shit you've never played
>>332932038
wew lad cool enjoy being an angry minority of a minority of people who won't play FF15 cause it's not like FF13.
I'm sure there are at least 9 other people on earth that share your opinion so don't feel too alone.
>>332926284
>if all you need to do to win is hold down circle
>demo
>can't die
The difficulty is obviously supposed to be reflective of the actual game.
>>332930586
I don't get it, yure you can do all that shit, but is it supposed to impressive?
Because you stunt stunned the enemy before you did all that shit
>>332931467
>source
I have done the flip dodge multiple times. During attacks with longer hit boxes, you will still take the latter end of the attack. But with correct timing, you can dodge almost anyone of the IG attacks.
>start up time
I dont count frames bro, but it instantly cancels any attack animation currently happening and goes straight into the spin.
>Nomura/Kojima: finely honed cinematic sense; tired of anime bullshit and wanted to do something serious
>Tabata: capable only of weeb-tier melodrama
Look at the trailers: all the ones Nomura was involved in were meticulously designed and edited and feature epic, operatic musical themes. All of Tabata's are meh gameplay that replaces Shimomura's best pieces with her eh and STAND BY ME.
We could have gotten a Shakespearean tragedy and instead we're getting a daddy issues ripoff of a sappy 90s flick.
>>332930472
>>332930659
>Likes ARPG
>hate Dragon Dogma.
What is wrong with you people?
>>332932173
>shill shill shill shill
Fuck off OP.
>>332932267
It's just to show people there's more to the combat than just standing there holding O
>>332919875
>game clearly has combat much more detailed than holding down a button
>people completely disregard it and assume that holding down the button will be the standard
Take any game, give your an infinite health bar, and only use light attack. Is the combat in the game now bad?
>>332932040
No, instead of focusing on the player interacting with controller inputs, the player can focus on reacting to enemy attacks.
>>332932361
Dragon's Dogma is insanely overrated here.
>>332932090
>Stop changing the subject.
Some games have smooth input and responsive controls. This is not one of them. You need a fucking basis for comparison to make statements like that.
There are videos of people showing the input lag in this game, and it's ridiculous. The gameplay is slow and clunky. There is massive input lag and delay, this is not up for debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP2qZoKBSMM&feature=youtu.be
>>332932310
>I dont count frames bro, but it instantly cancels
Fucking. Bullshit.
>>332932419
How do you even get up there? Warp barely did anything for me.
>>332932334
>Nomura/Kojima: tired of anime bullshit and wanted to do something serious
One look at the original trailers for this game proves this to be a joke. The first trailer for this shit game was Sasuke coming out of a building and nothing personel kidding some knights then his eyes flash red.
It was straight up Naruto that if it was in America, the manga author could likely sue him
>>332932420
>game clearly has combat much more detailed than holding down a button
>people completely disregard it and assume that holding down the button will be the standard
When that's exactly what the fucking demo of the game gives you, can you really blame them?
If square-enix didn't want to jump to conclusions then they shouldn't have put out such a misleading demo, period.
>>332932419
o fuk
>>332932487
I don't think you tried going there.
>>332924589
so buying games is gonna kill the system?
>>332929645
yea and I'll buy those games too when they come out
>>332928703
>you were just shut down
Shut down? Based on what? All I saw was a PCuck post a tweet saying "maybe" and then the sonygger completely blow him the fuck out by posting a source thta essentially said FFXV was never EVER tier
>>332932473
I've never experienced input lag that bad. It's either his wireless controller, or shit TV. Maybe his PS4 is crapping out.
>>332932442
>instead of focusing on the player interacting with controller inputs
If I'm going to react to enemy attacks, I need the controller to read my inputs in a timely manner.
>>332932559
I looked up in that general area for several minutes.
>>332932565
>yea and I'll buy those games too
No, you won't.
>>332929012
>SE have had close ties with Nvidia in developing their new game engine.
PhysX, consoles use PhysX.
>Enjoy your 15fps train wreck.
Enjoy your 0fps and pixeltrash exclusives
>>332932568
Get over it already.
>>332932584
>I've never experienced input lag that bad
The video is slowed down to show it off so you can see the delay between his thumb moving and the character moving.
The fact that you don't know how an input lag test works but are still insisting the game is responsive says about all I need to hear. You have no idea what responsive controllers feel and play like.
Sure the aerial combat is cool, but why does no one talk about the rest?
The holding circle normal combos will surely get it's use in the full game against many enemies at once and normal ground combos too
And even the normal dodge or the shield block is probably one of the best tools that the demo has to offer and will probably end up way more useful than any air combo yet no one fucking talks about it because haha gotta go cuhrazy
I hope the game will have some 1 vs 1 human boss fights that take advantage of the shield
Does Duscae threads fare any better than this? Did the event and the free demo actually pulled more retard that never bothered about the game in the first place, but played the demo just to shitpost on 4chan. Man, I guess free demo's are just as bad as the paid ones.
>inb4 Duscae is free
There's a $30 paywall, that will turn off retards from actually trying the demo
>>332932584
Sure, whatever you say.
>>332932664
how come?
The combat is fun for what style of game it is, but aerial combat and the greatsword's stun are OP.
>>332932173
>responsive character
He responds to my inputs. You can even perfect dodge when in the middle of attack animations. Character is a hell lot more responsive and interactive than in Monster Hunter, and /v/ is all over that games dick constantly.
>an air launcher
Shit, Monster Hunter, Souls, Bloodborne, ect all have fucking shit combat systems now- Even Senran Fucking Kagura has air launchers and air linkers- The combat in Senran Kagura is obviously loads better than all of those games, right?
>Magic that can be linked into combos
Magic can be linked into combos. aiming the magic actually cancels a lot of animations (not unlike blade mode cancel in Metal Gear Rising) and opens a lot of possibilities.
>>332932473
Played the demo extensively, not that i was impressed at all but holy shit the input i have is nowhere near as bad as that guy's
>>332932419
>>332932746
Type-0 WAS the FFXV demo. Surprise, it sucks.
>>332932609
Did you get warp yet?
>>332932715
I know it's slowed down you fucking moron. I just said I never experienced input lag that delayed in the game.
Fucking condescending retard.
>>332932227
>those shadows
Post your face when they didn't censor Cidney.
>>332932845
>two different game
>suddenly one of them is the demo
What?
>>332932584
You can think whatever you want, but if you have by any chance a PC or a PS2 or PS3 with Kingdom Hearts 2, play it for 1 minute and notice how the character reacts to the inputs right away, then go back to FFXV
I'm not saying ti should be like KH2, but you can feel the slight input lag and too much weigt
Hopefully the final game will be balanced around it
>>332932932
Who cares? She's a bimbo with a horrible looking outfit
>>332932487
Are you trying to warp with the great sword?
>>332932798
>Character is a hell lot more responsive and interactive than in Monster Hunter, and /v/ is all over that games dick constantly.
This shit is even more bizarre, and i fucking played hated the shit out of he combat in 3 & 4 yet had a ball with the demo's.
What the fuck /v/.
>>332932594
they do. Like I said, you can even perfect dodge an enemy attack when you are MID ATTACK animation.
>>332933054
Found the european.
The combat isn't perfect, but it's still very enjoyable enough for me to get the game. The input lag is no worse than something like the Souls games.
>>332919875
I rather enjoyed it, light hearted and fun. Not sure why you think you can just hold down the attack or defend buttons, as there were several enemy attacks that would break your attack sequence and could easily kill you if you only held down attack. Just the same, if you only ever held down defend, you'd run out of mana, and on top of that the demo showed there were going to be attack types in the full game that you couldn't auto dodge.
>>332932746
This demo improved the combat but for some reason the framerate is worse even though Duscse had huge areas with grass and more shit going on, you'd think that they actually improve their engine instead of making it worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikCNN9rm0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nr5iSbVFk
>>332933118
Found the underage boy.
>>332919914
>Having an opinion is being a loser
>>332932798
>He responds to my inputs
see
>>332932473
No he doesn't. You're just shit at games so you think he does.
>Souls, Bloodborne, ect all have fucking shit combat systems now
They don't have aerial combat. If you have aerial combat, you should have an aerial fucking launcher.
>and opens a lot of possibilities.
I don't think you understand what combos are. Nothing changes about casting the magic, you just stop swinging and then cast it. The animation isn't changed, and you can't build traps or anything.
>>332932873
>I just said I never experienced input lag that delayed in the game.
You're an idiot. That's the standard input lag. Make a video of you testing the input lag if you've convinced there's no lag.
>>332933083
>they do
They don't. Objectively.
>>332933054
Eurocuck alert
>>332932820
b-but no recovery moves!
>>332932473
The lag in the first forest area is terrible. I think Luminous 2 + fauna just rapes consoles too hard.
I hope in the final version we can actually use more than just 4 weapons/magic at a time.
>>332933078
oh no son you better watch what you saying dont know know where you are? /v/ loves autism mash buttons unresponsively hunter. hitting enemies with attacks that phase right through them while getting locked in animations is one of /v/'s favorite things.
>>332920016
>Being this conformist
Anon, why don't you respect yourself a little more
>>332919875
>this pissy over a game not even out yet
Silly memers, see name.
>>332933224
I didn't say there's no lag, I just said I didn't experience a delay that long before you angry faggot. Then again I don't use wireless controls like a retard.
>>332933240
Nice meme kiddo. Totally proves her ZR anime schoolgirl pandering shit isn't forced, that her tits don't look fake and a mechanic not protecting their skin isn't retarded.
>>332933078
I love both. I love Monster Hunter Combat. I love the combat in platinum demo. I love the combat in DMC 4. Combat in Ninja Gaiden is really fun too. KH combat is also fun.
I dont get why niggas have to take sides and act like its life or death- like only one is the right and proper way to do combat and everything else is shit. Its completely strange.
>tfw no cool greatsword air combo
>>332933263
Well for getting hit on the ground or in the air, at least in the demo, there're no actual recovery moves, which i hope they fix.
Just make it cost some MP or something if they want to balance it
>>332933224
Gladio has an air launcher in ED.
>>332919875
I enjoyed le demo. I expect much more from the full game of course. DESU it's not a day 1 buy for me though I'll be waiting till its like 30 bucks. My biggest complaint was the frame rate.
>"OPEN WORLD IS SO 2001"
Why do people think open worlds are new to FF?
>FPS
Yeah. They need to fix the FPS.
>Shield
Was fun to play with. So were the throwing stat whatsit things.
>Jpop
Over designed male characters that are effeminate or look like spikey haired pop or rock stars is nothing new to JRPGs or FF. Pretty typical.
>hold attack/defend
Honestly more complex than those functions would imply on the surface. The auto attack seems to be in place for trash mobs that you've out leveled, sort of a replacement for auto resolve.
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I won't act like the game is flawless, because it's not, but I had fun with it.
>>332933054
Shut up, Ahmed.
>>332933448
>I like apple pie AND dogturds
