Will you buy it?
>Price is currently $399.99 they were discussing a better CPU which would raise the price to $499.99 we were guaranteed the price will be no higher than $499.99 (He mentioned the CPU upgrade quite a bit almost as if they haven't really decided on a final spec could be a pricing issue.) also there is currently no plan for any type of trade in program for current PS4 users but that could change.
>They stated that the GPU is twice as powerful as standard PS4 and much faster. They did not say exactly how fast but that is was running at a higher clock speed while being much smaller than the original.
>It will have a 4k blu ray player and will upscale games that are not natively 4k.
>>332779181
If they're going to make a PS4K, they may as well not cheap out on the CPU. That's the PS4's bottleneck.
Probably not, im fine with the old model since ill only be playing bloodborne, Dark souls III and the last Guardian. Everthing else will be on PC. Though if I get a discount for trading in old one, sure why not.
>>332779181
Tell me your Price Frederick.
>>332779504Five Hundred And Nintey Nine US Dollars
>>332779181
Nope. Fuck Sony I got a PS4 and now they put this bullshit? How about no.
No. I have a PC that can actually play games in native 4k
>>332779181
Fake. They wouldn't be doing R&D at this point if it were releasing this year.
>>332780074
Rumor said next year, and Microsoft was still finalizing XBO's specs several months before it went into production.
>>332779181
Yes.
I love Sony.
>>332780795
New leaker said this year, which makes me think that there is some giant misunderstanding about this whole thing.
>>332779181
I'm fairly sure the leaks are bullshit or at least inaccurate, but if it turns out to be real sure, I don't have one and was waiting for the next revision before buying one.
>>332781853
Where's your "m" Adam?
I've been looking into buying a PS4 anyway for fighting games and JRPGs. Just means I hold off until E3 to see how accurate these leaks are.
Of course not. I didn't even buy a PS4 because I was waiting for a line up to appear but they already shit out new hardware before even considering adding software to this piece of shit
>>332781853
There are discrepancies between multiple leaks, there is definitely some kind of misunderstanding going on, I think.
>>332779181
I might buy a used ps4 after it releases because fuck sony but theres no way i join ps+. Only gonna buy used shit to make sure i dont support their faggotry they've been pulling. Seriously dont understand how you fucking faggots fell for the pay for online play meme.
>sony gets hacked and is down for nearly a year
>trust them with your credit card info and pay for that same hacked service
What is fucking wrong with people?
>>332779181
my gpu already does 4k at 30fps, so no
>>332782582
>at 30fps
wow so this is... the power of pc
I might, but it depends on a few things:
- The issues people report (noise, overheating, or the many widespread HDD errors like the CE 34878-0...)
- The fucking games. PS4 has nothing outside of Bloodborne and games that already run much better on my PC. Still waiting for Nier Automata, NiOh, Toukiden 2, Ace Combat 7, FFXV... Plus, I have the sneaking suspicion that most of these games will be on PC (AC7 because bamco, Nier because "exclusive for now", FFXV because "maybe pc release later, but here's this public demonstration which we will play with a Logitech PC gamepad", Toukiden 2 because Kiwami is on PC...)
- The price/performance
- The raw performance. Even if the price/performance ratio is insane, there is only so much I'm willing to sacrifice in terms of framerate.
- How many games actually take proper advantage of the hardware
>>332779181
>they were discussing a better CPU which would raise the price to $499.99
This is the best part and shows whoever spread this rumor has no fucking idea what they're talking about.
This is an APU and a $100 increase in cost for each APU would mean a massive increase in die size, one that would simply not be logical for a mid-generation upgrade. The majority of the current PS4 APU's die space is GPU logic and cache.
I hope Sony's not going to make it a habit to rush out incremental upgrades every few years. I doubt the market will respond positively to this.
>>332782710
4k is literally 4 times as demanding as Full HD. Even games that do over 200 fps will be sub-60 at 4k using the same settings.
In other words there's no way in hell anything on PS4.5 will be 4k other than mobile game ports and the like.
>>332779181
Wait, so my vanilla ps4 on my 4k TV will not output 4k. They want me to buy another fucking console instead of putting out 4k games? Are you fucking kidding me?
>When PS4 and XBone came out everyone and their mother thought it was pointless gen because of such meager upgrades to graphics
>Now they have to release a subgen console because they realized it at this point
Fucking idiots.
>>332783906
Your vanilla PS4 can't output 4K. Or rather, it can, but with some major limitations. It was not made to be UHD compliant.
>>332784153
I assume it was too costly at the time to make it UHD compliant.
>>332779181
>source: neogays
yeah sure
>>332783906
4theplayers
>>332779181
Maybe if they do something like Nintendo did for the New 3DS where you trade in your old one and get it at a lower price.
Doubt they will though.
>>332783954
>2013 graphics technology was shit
>2016 graphcis technology makes a huge jump
>somehow this makes Sony idiots
>>332779912
having fun with stardew valley and undermeme?
>>332784153
But that is the whole point of having a console. If I wanted to update my hardware every few years, I would just buy a fucking pc
>>332779181
Heh, "Price"
>>332779181
Depends on how different the price is to the regular model when I decide it's time for a PS4.
>>332784826
More games than the PS4 has.
I still don't think it's even real, because keep in mind fucking Kotaku started this rumor, and it started suspiciously close to Kotaku's owner losing tens of millions of dollars.
I have no reason to upgrade, I don't have a 4k TV or monitor, and literally every game I own for PS4 is Japanese anyways, le graphics aren't really a big deal to me. If it raises the framerate of existing games (I still haven't played Bloodborne) I'd consider buying one in 2 or 3 years.
>>332784816
This is exactly what makes them idiots. They should have waited and kept supporting PS3 until releasing PS4 now for the first time.
>>332783563
They did with cell phones so who the fuck knows.
>>332785345
>What is competition
They wouldn't have sold a single console for 3 years because nobody would have bought a PS3 while the xbone is out.
PS3/xbox360 were woefully outdated and needed an upgrade. There was no way around that.
>>332783795
I'm convinced that it's just a PS4 slim with 4k video playback capabilities for movies and tv shows.
>ps4 sonygger forced into buying their console twice
oh im laffin
So is this really starting to get traction as a real thing, or is it just /v/ pushing a meme to troll?
>>332779181
No because it has no exclusives I'm interested in.
>>332786690
It's real. Some people just are in denial
>>332786690
Multiple different sources have confirmed it, it's a thing. The details from these sources are all over the fucking place though, so it's kind of hard to tell what it actually is.
If I can play Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne at 1080p, with some good antialiasing and 60FPS then yes. I much prefer playing multiplayer on consoles since the fanbase isn't as cancerous, there's no hackers and you don't have to fight M+K shitters.
>>332786965
>>332787224
Ok thanks
4k console huh? That doesn't sound too bad, if it's less than $500 that's kind of a steal considering how much the xbone elite is
>>332786690
It's a meme pushed by asspained mustards. There's going to be an updated PS4 at some point (no shit) but it's not going to be an upgrade like some people are saying.
nope. I don't buy nintendo handhelds anymore out of principal for abusing this shit, I guess I won't be buying sony consoles anymore either, that leaves microsoft and PC, so I may as well just quit playing games cause I don't really care about stuff PC does best and i'd rather die than play an xbone.
I'd buy it if it improves bloodbourne framerate
>>332787642
>upgrading the ps4
>Sony won't release the details on what they're upgrading
That's a fucking slap in the face to its consumers lel
I just bought a ps4, so no, obviously not and fuck this shit if it's true. I already feel ass raped by Nintendo and the Wii U. I don't need Sony getting sloppy seconds on me too. This gen of gaming is the absolute worst.
I moved to Sony because of Nintendo putting out jewmiibos.
Now this.
Hm. You think theyd focus on reviving their Vita line. It still has more sales than the WiiU at this point.
>>332787604
It's only 4K for media like movies, not games
>>332787642
It's real no matter how much you want to deny it, famicom
I think it'd be bullshit for them not to do some kind of trade/upgrade deal with the original PS4. Why the fuck would I pay $400 to play a game I already own like Bloodborne at 60fps (assuming that becomes a thing) when I already own both a PS4 and a highish-end PC?
>>332779181
yes I'll buy it, as long as it is like the original PS4 and doesn't require an internet setup before you can play games on it(like the XB1 does).
otherwise it's useless as a collector's console and my collecting days will end this gen, PC only from then on
Is all of /v/ a bunch of poorfags that save their allowances to buy shit?
>>332789057
You really want to drop another $500 for a console that most of us have had for a year tops?
You nigger rich cull.
>>332789368
>can't afford to freely spend the money you make
get rich son
>>332789572
It's not about freely spending cash, it is about getting value. That is why you will always be nigger rich.
I guarantee I have more money then you and it is because I don't waist it on shit
>>332782868
>The fucking games. PS4 has nothing outside of Bloodborne
Monica, I always knew you were a good meme poster
>>332789572
you probably think youre mature and cool for being a corporate cockslave who "has money" to afford it whenever you need anal surgery, but have a newsflash retard: everyone else can too
everyone else simply isnt as fucking stupid as you and doesnt want to get fucked over, which I hope SONY is smart enough to realize, because it will be laughable if they think their momentum will keep on instead of receiving a horrific amount of infamy and angry people shitting on them for this, jumping shift, and never buying another sony console in the first 5 years its out
>>332790049
Then stop complaining about the price.
If it's less than $500 it's a fucking steal. High end graphics cards cost more than that, and you're only buying the card
>getting value
Any console is a fucking value bargain compared to a high end gaming pc, you frugal fuck.
No. Even the PS4 isn't worth buying.
>>332790913
Not when you have to buy 2 in a year.
Are you really this retarded, or do you just play one on tv?
>>332790913
A 970 is around 300 dollars. That's not a steal.
>>332779181
It won't magically make my PC stop existing, so no.
I hope this is true, would splinter the user base and piss people off. Either devs target the new model and piss off all the current PS4 owners or they don't and games won't make use of the better hardware, making it pointless.
>>332790785
>corporate cockslave
I fucking wish. better pay and health benefits depending. Private sector dont pay as well as people think.
Sony is upgrading the hardware of a console in less than 5 years, how is that bad? if anything, it shows them try to be one step ahead in competition, with all their 4k TVs and shit
>>332791278
TV pays well but I cant act.
And you mean to tell me you can't sell your old ps4 or give it to a young family member
>cheap, and a scummy shit
you need Jesus man
>>332787564
>M+K shitters
GIT GUD
>>332791708
>buying a 970
980 ti or bust anon.
>>332785558
Xbone would have pulled its not insane DRM shit and no one would have bought it anyway.
Seeing as I already own a ps4 no way, unless there's some kind of trade up program where I'd get the newer console for under $100. Otherwise. No thanks. I'll wait for the PS5.5.
>>332792076
Jesus is telling you to buy more shit, you wouldn't want to be against Jesus now, would you?
>>332791898
Splits user base, devs either target the new specs and leave out all existing owners or they target the old model making the upgrade largely pointless.
>>332779181
already sold my ps4.
ps4 games barely run, so this is the only way they can get away with making them better. they run well on the 4k and barely on the 4. some of them will be 4k exclusive depending on sales.
I'm not completely convinced its a dick move yet but the odds of this being in favor of more $$$ instead of consumer happiness is way more likely.
>>332792076
Again, it's about value.
My time is valuable, do I really want to spend it selling a console? You really have no clue do you?
>>332792805
Not only that, but there are still jaggies in games. Played Bloodborne with my cousin and holy shit, it was like my eyes were getting stabbed.
>>332779715
>Not Dollarydooes
>>332789572
A fool and his money are soon parted.
>>332779181
No, because what you posted isn't real.
I might buy the PS4 Slim with built in UHD BR play and a HDMI2 port, though.
I'll repeat what I've always said.
Never buy hardware unless it already has the software to make it worth it.
The big reason this will cause asspain is because the only people satisfied with the ps4s library already are the people that buy every acti-ubi-EA title. the ones who will be upset are the people who bought a ps4 for that giant list of games, only one of which actually existed.
>>332792857
Selling does not take up that much time m8. I can tell you right now that a lot of family members and friends would buy a ps4 off you. Ebay and amazon would also gladly take a ps4 off your hands
Time is valuable, I agree. But that doesn't refute why a PS 4.5 or w/e is a steal at less than $500, if it's even real
>>332779181
I thought only PC cucks needed to upgrade their shitty toasters? Now you will need to buy new ps4 to play those 20 exclusives they'll maybe release in next 3 years?
>>332793563
>only one of which actually existed
Nigga, the rest come out THIS YEAR.
Fucking Ratchet & Clank comes out in 11 days. Stop with your one game meme already.
>>332792758
Ahh, well that might be a problem. But if it's less than $500, why not? Innovation requires some semblance of sacrifice
>>332793684
Console revisions aren't anything new. OPs post is conjecture from fucking Neogaf.
PS4K will just be a slim with 4K video playback.
>>332793909
This year is not this day, friend.
I owned a ps4 as well, but I knew that there were only 3 games I knew would be on it for me to play when i did.
They bought the console now, but theres now another one coming. the people who waited got the better deal. if you already had all the games and there was a better ps4 coming itd be fine.
>>332792743
>Bennie Sanders
>anti-capitalist
checks out
>>332792758
Exactly why anyone who believes this shit is 100% retarded.
Sony aren't going to abandon 40m consumers after 2 years.
>>332793909
Cool, so PS4 will finally have a second game, assuming R&C is actually good and doesn't suffer from the casualization, lack of meaningful content and poor performance most PS4 have so far. I don't have high hopes given its not even 60fps and was rushed out to coincide with the movie.
>>332794256
>They bought the console now, but theres now another one coming
There's a fucking slim coming, if you think the PS4K is a whole new console or a significant upgrade you're deluded.
>>332794454
>was rushed out to coincide with the movie
It was finished over a year ago, but was delayed to coincide with the movie.
At least look up the game before you shitpost about it.
Depends entirely on performance. If games still run at 20 fps then no.It's just going to play 4k blurays
>>332793909
Cool, a rehash. NSMB got 4 games over a decade and is the prime example of shameless rehashing, but a dozen R&C games in that many years? Perfectly fine! #4therehashes
>>332794740
>anything I don't like is a rehash
+(You)
>>332779181
I have no intention of buying a 4k tv.
>>332779181
I'd buy it, if I had a use for a console.
>>332792758
damn, you are a stupid person, Wesley.
>devs either target the new specs and leave out all existing owners
Why would you even put that on the table. how can you possibly think that would ever happen? Are you mentally deficient? I worry for you.
By Xmas 2017 there will be 60-70million PS4's and 1-2 million PS4K's. Why would any dev ignore 95% of the market? The base model will become even cheaper and pull in even more newcommers. The base PS4 will be the biggest market forever, even agter PS4K's release.
>or they target the old model making the upgrade largely pointless
Exactly how can you be this stupid? I don't get it. Is retardation in your bloodline?
EVERY dev targets for the lowest configs, whenever possible, even on PC.
This is as stupid as saying that StarOcean5 and other ports running on double the resolution and framerate on the PS4 relative to PS3 is "largely pointless"
God damn this post..
>>332779181
Games already released at 30fps will continue to run at sub-30fps. This new version doesn't change anything.
>>332785345
And miss out on all this 35 million sold OG PS4? Oh, no Sony played their cards juuust right, it's their customers that got fucked. All those early adopters GOT FUCKED. They sat around with no games for 2 years, got one Souls type exclusive with mediocre performance and replayability and when games are finally coming on the horizon just barely their console is getting superseded.
L.O.L
>>332779181
>buying a $400 paperweight
>>332779181
So the next generation of consoles, are going to be the same as the alienware pre builds?
Ie -$ model1, model 2, model 3 $+
Sort of removes the aspect of simplicity, that people like when getting a console.
>>332787564
Stop thinking that the old games will magically run at 60 fps.
It is not because a game runs at 30 it will automatically require the processor 'space' to run the 60. That is not solved by the hardware, but by programming the game.
The games that run 30 will remain 30 in the same manner, except that the developer decides to re write the new CPU.
>>332793563
> the only people satisfied with the ps4s library already are the people that buy every acti-ubi-EA title
The only people who think this are cucks like you
I'm FLOODED with games from this first half of 2016 alone, I barely have time to play them all, especially for the next 3 months
But of course AA games never count and if I were to post a list I'd get
>literally who?
>I don't know what game
>shit indie
>weebshit
So on and so forth because apparently /v/ is in love with AAA games
>>332794072
I explained why not, it splinters the user base and the appeal of consoles is accessibility, ease of use and price. You buy knowing any and all games will work on it. Incremental upgrades devalue that, people might be less willing to buy if they know a better model is coming soon.
>>332794883
>It's okay when Sony does it!
That's the point genius. NSMB is a rehash because it fits the narrative, R&C isn't because it's made by Sony even though they churned out as many games as years the franchise had existed.
>>332792758
>>332795762
>EVERY dev targets for the lowest configs, whenever possible, even on PC.
Yeah, except, buddy, according to some reports all future games will be made with PS4k in mind and then done with "heavy compromises" on OG PS4, which automatically delegates OGs to second rate customers. It's comparable to PS3 vs PS4. Both platforms get the same games sometimes, for example MGSV but there is a big difference and we both know the PS4 version is the definite version out of the two even though the user/install base of the PS3 is much, much larger.
>>332779181
Yes. I will do the one of many trade in deals to get a pretty decent amount taken off the upgraded hardware machine to enjoy full 4k movies and maybe future games on my 4k TV. Literally 0 reason to complain. Not like it'll be a whole new gen.
>>332795762
You didn't read past that sentence, did you?
If 95% of users won't even buy the new model, then why make it? It's a waste of time and resources. I said as much in that post, dipshit. Incremental upgrades conflict with what makes consoles appealing in the first place, which are ease of use, accessibility and price. People buy consoles because they're cheap, easy to use and will play any and all games released for the platform.
Make more games instead of another version of your console that's already selling well.
>>332796338
Well, I'm happy if "you" are happy with your purchase, friend, but that kinda makes you an anecdotal evidence case. PS4 for lots more people is a NO GAMES/Bloodborne machine.
>>332796797
>according to some reports
Thanks for the hot tip, Sammy! Sounds legit!
>>332782515
Because companies fix stuff to keep people spending money. You sound like you have 0 idea how business works. I'm not a Sony fanboy by any means, infact I haven't touched my ps4 in months, but this statement along with 90% of posts here is just bitching to bitch and ignorance.
>>332796658
It's okay when Nintendo does it too, so long as the games are good.
I don't know why you're bringing Nintendo into this, assuming that I somehow dislike Mario. I enjoy Mario Bros, even NSMB.
Reach harder, cuck
>>332796797
That's my point shitwit, it shits on current PS4 owners of devs decide to target the new specs. OG PS4 will run the games like shit.
Jewny shot themselves on the foot with this one.
VR is fucking dead on arrival.
>>332797407
Just kind of hypocritical to see Sonyponies hyping up a new game in a franchise with per a dozen entries in that many years while simultaneously shitting on other platforms for offending in less severe ways. Yes, I know /v/ is not one person.
I'm not gonna buy another PS4. Can hey just upgrade our current ps4's?
>>332797118
>Make more games
You mean like all the games coming out this year, exclusive to the PS4?
>instead of another version of your console that's already selling well
Did you really not expect a PS4 slim? Despite the PS3 slim, PS3 ultra slim, PS2 slim, and PSOne?
PS4K isn't going to be a whole new console, it'll be a slim with a 4K blu ray player and maaaybe a few better internals.
You said it yourself; if 95% of users won't even buy the new model, then why make it?
>>332796658
NSMB is a series designed to appeal to the 2D retro mario games fans.
It's a series of 4 games, one per console, and it's over.
That's hardly a rehash compared to uninspired garbage like uncharted or other sony trash that also gets HD remasters the next year.
>>332797216
No problem, Wendy! I would do it again for a fair maiden. Will you be my girlfriend?
I think it was one of the original leaks or something. Look it up but it depends on sales I would assume. They are hoping the PS4 will sell like hotcakes and create a large userbase like OG PS4 then they can easily do their "target PS4k and heavy compromises of OG" and I can understand their desire to do that if they intend to push VR along with PS4k they need it to succeed. In the event that it is a flop tho, they might reconsider.
>>332797694
Stop referring to neogaf outsider scum as /v/.
>>332797694
/v/ has always loved R&C
If a series is good, then it's good. Who cares about consolewar bullshit?
Have you seen the desperate VR shilling sticky on dumbgaf?
PS VR will have a shorter life than the move.
>>332779181
>upscale rez to 4k
How about upscaling frame rates? Anything for that.
>>332797445
I know, fuckmunch. I know what I said too. Thanks for pointing it out, Sherlock. I was talking to the second quote maybe, dumbfuck?
>>332797979
Agreed, consolewars are for fags. I have the same reaction when I see/hear people arguing over iPhone and android. It's fucking stupid, stop it.
>>332798146
>Anything for that.
It's called a personal computer.
>>332797845
Except the performance of PS3 slim and a super slim and Phat is one and the same, only power consumption and temperatures/form factor got better.
In the case of the PS4k we are talking increased performance and an upgrade to the GPU, possibly CPU as well. Everyone was expecting a PS4 slim yes. No one was expecting this but it makes sense if you consider that VR and the 4k standard is coming into the equation.
>>332792758
Completely retarded logic. A PS4K will have better hardware but will be the same in architecture making it very easy to optimize for both consoles. Much easier than the plethora of PC configs devs have to optimise for.
>>332800212
>same in architecture
>plethora of PC configs devs have to optimise for.
This guy.
>>332798862
>In the case of the PS4k we are talking increased performance and an upgrade to the GPU, possibly CPU as well
Yeah, I highly doubt that.
PS4K is a slim revision with a UHD blu ray player and maybe a few better internals at push.
It's not going to be as drastic a revision as you're making it out to be.
>>332798862
>upgrade to the GPU, possibly CPU as well.
What could this improve?
I really don't know this stuff.
>>332800643
Graphics. Framerates. Potentially loading times.
>>332800635
>PS4K is a slim revision with a UHD blu ray player and maybe a few better internals at push
This is the same thing I thought and was saying but more and more reports talk about improved hardware and not just a die shrink but xSomithing increase in GPU power and a new CPU as in a whole new model APU I would assume.
>>332800643
Well future games will look better, old ones probably won't improve without dev patches and VR stuff could be exclusive to the new model. Expect TV+Console bungles as well as Sony has done that in the past. 4k console? Here have this Sony 4k TV with a discount.
In all honestly as this is possibly Sony's reaction to Microsoft's announced "upgradeability" of the Xbone and the upcoming Nintendo NX. Possibly even to not lag too much behind new PC GPU advancements like Pascal and so on that are yet to be seen how much of a leap they are but allegedly: significant.
>>332792857
>My time is valuable
If it's so valuable, why are you wasting it arguing on 4chan?
1440p rendering upscaled to 4K similar to 360 and PS3 on 1080p TVs.
>>332800841
>>332801642
Alright, thanks.
I hope Sony let's us know what's up soon, many people are going to hold off buying none until they do.
I hope they say something before E3.
>>332779181
Can I pull my 2tb hdd out of my current PS4 and stick in my new PS4k and keep all my games and data on it? It's a very important point for me since I'm only allow 60gb of data on my $200+ a month internet out here in the middle of shithole Alaska.
>>332802171
>I hope Sony let's us know what's up soon, many people are going to hold off buying none until they do.
YES! Which all these leaks without an official response from them is stupid as fuck. If it leaked they should just come out with it and tell people
Then again no one knows about it apart from some Neogaf shills who won't turn their back on Sony no matter what and a few autists on /v/. Or is this catching wind?
>>332802601
No. The new PS4 will want to format that shit.
You'll have to get PS+ or use a USB and back all your shit up.
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