What are some other games where you basically cannot die?
Let me guess, you didn't even touch GRs. Bet you play on babby difficulty.
Club Penguin
"I'm fucking invincible" - Principal Armstrong
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>>332778747
Why do the current builds for the new patch suck so badly there so boring
>Thorns is OP now so just get smacked the fuck up
>>332778873
started on normal and quickly switched to hard. the game didn't let me further increase the difficulty on my first playthrough
fallout 4. i have to basically just sell all my stimpacks and bobby pins otherwise there's no threat
>>332779108
Yes it did
You have to do it from the character screen
>>332778747
diablo 2
>>332778747
killer7
>>332778873
>Pick mage
>Farm Tal Rasha set
>steamroll Torment 9
Alright.
>>332779447
You mean
>Pick mage
>Read online what the most min-max lazy shitter would do
>Do that
>Complain game is easy
:^)
>>332778747
Dragon's Dogma
>>332779447
>min/max
>lazy
lol
>>332779512
Tal Rasha is the first full dropped set I got nigger.
>>332779312
but the increase difficulty button was disabled after I'd switched it to hard
Well, obviously.
>>332779751
I think if I remember right torment is locked until you Beat the story and the difficulties used too bee different/ different locks depending on when you tried so you're probably right.
As for not dying in diablo 3 I do GR leaderboards and yes you do die. A fucking lot actually and it requires a bit of skill (mostly time) but still some skill. The game is as hard as you want it to be just like every arpg. I can t10 rift in about 2-3 minutes though.
>>332778747
i bet you didn't even play on hardcore
faggot
>>332779447
>Torment 9
Whats your highest Grift?
>>332780365
level 75 bud
>>332779447
>Torment 9
That's cute.
>>332779108
So basically you've done nothing yet, congrats
>>332779447
>steamroll torment anything
nigga go fucking rifting already
Soul Reaver
>>332778747
>>332782346
>>332778873
M8, even on hardcore there's a trait that makes it impossible for you to die by literally making the game say "lol nevermind come back to like with some invincibility and this trait will have a really short cool down"
What the fuck were the devs thinking?
>Blizzard
Oh that explains a lot
>>332782737
>Thinking second wind is exclusive to Blizzard
Do you only play Diablo and phone games?
>>332782737
>>332782928
Also, trying running non bitch tier Grifts and see how long you live with your second wind ability.
Staying on topic with the thread here, if you died from anything besides fall damage in Skyrim you're a fucking idiot.
>>332782928
Name one other ARPG with a hardcore mode currently competing with D3 that has it.
I'll wait, because it will take you a while.
>>332783082
>and see how long you live with second wind
M8 this game is easy. It's possibly the easiest ARPG ever made. Second wind only makes it easier.
>b-but muh grifts
They've made it so fucking easy to get gear in D3 that you're fitted in a few days if you know what you're doing.
>>332783018
This is correct. Reaper of Souls is by far the best game.
>>332782726
objectively incorrect
>>332783235
>dying from fall damage in a Gamebryo game
You are the retard
>>332783235
Wtf? Dragons would two-shot you early on in skyrim and that was at normal difficulty.
>take 50% less damage for 4 seconds: the game
such unique and creative legendary design
>>332783480
Yeah. If you modded
>>332778747
Mount and Blade: Warband
>>332783305
>It's easy, so easy, I'm so good at it
Words are cheap. Show me your 100+ GR hardcore character.
Saying the game is easy because you can run T10 is like saying Doom is easy on "I'm too young to die difficulty". Bringing up gear is irrelevant as well as nobody claimed that the difficulty came from gear.
>>332783585
>play game
>press button
Such creative design.
Crypt of the Necrodancer. Because if you die, you lose. So you cant die if you want to keep playing.
>>332783735
>nobody claimed the difficulty came from gear
The only reason levels of torment or rifts are more difficult than one another is because the enemies in one have higher numbers than others. The entire difficulty in D3 comes from your character's numbers (gear) compared to the monster's. Don't be an idiot. Additionally, high levels of life on hit mean you facetank all attacks in D3 with proper gear. The only sort of damaging attack type that required the player to show at least some awareness of what's going on used to be arcane but now they've nerfed it. Second wind requires even less awareness from the player because you pop back to life in hardcore if you die.
Awful game. Not hard to see why casuals love it, though.
>>332783735
Pretty much this. While I don't play hardcore for anything other then casual fun I love when people say a game with endless difficulty is "easy". In some aspects sure but you can make the game hard by pressing forward.
>>332783305
I think the game is less confusing and more streamlined then other ARPGs but not necessarily easier. Not having to spend hours trying to figure out a spec only to have it be shit and not able to respec is just an additional time sink not difficult.
>>332784287
>Nobody claimed the difficulty came from OBTAINING gear
Sorry, I forgot spoonfeeding is necessary for some people. Getting the gear is not the difficult part. Everyone has similar gear, does everyone have similar Grift clears? No. Gear isn't everything.
>>332784287
Are you retarded?
>>332784287
Not him but doing higher rifts aren't just gear dependant. If you physically play better then someone else you will get farther with less gear. Second wind doesn't change that much but it's nice so that you aren't ticking time off the click in a grift but there are builds that don't even use it. The only damaging attack thing is wrong, you ever try stutter stepping and trying to keep stacks of taegok up? It's a bitch and requires actual effort to get the timing correct. Or how about positioning for different mob types and tile sets so that you don't die and maximize damage output. Stacking LoH does nothing for nearly everyone actually. I don't think anyone besides a thorns set works off life regen in solo play.
If you want to claim it's easy and casual at least know what you're talking about.
>>332784678
And now the backpedaling begins.
Blizzdrones are hilarious.
>does everyone have similar grift clears? No. Gear isn't everything.
There aren't similar clears only because classes have different clear times because of balance, not because the game is any more or less difficult. How fast a grift clears is entirely based upon class and gear.
>>332784889
>Grifts are hard because I have to position mobs correctly
Kek. Also you have 3 seconds to keep Taeguk applied, not hard. You don't even have to fucking hit anything to keep taeguk applied.
ARPG are not really known to be hard in any sense of the word.
ARPG pretty much are meant to make you feel empowered.
Diablo 3 just make it too much and make you feel like a demi god.
>>332785358
but you are a demi god in diablo 3
Try Darksouls
>>332785620
Well not really. You have a Nephalym. A half angel/demon. Angels and Demons are not gods.
>>332785271
I'm still saying it's not the easiest thing to time with movement. Yes you don't have to hit something but if your trying to pull mobs into each other while keeping it up you can drop it easily. Or getting hit by frost or knockback.
I'm not saying the game is hard but it's not just so fucking easy a retard can do it. It's as hard as you want it to be by going up leaderboards
>>332784678
you mean how much infinite paragon you farmed/botted?
>>332785620
Zing
>>332785831
>it's just not so fucking easy a retard can do it
Except it is. You do it, after all.
>>332785358
fuck that dungeon. my friends and i were trying to farm the steps of torment only to have it crash ad infinitum when we were nearly done. haven't played since early access, have they fixed the crashes?
>>332786217
No idea. First time here, going there for the Book quest.
>>332778747
Wow diablo is such a good game
>>332785271
>backpedaling
Go ahead and point to where I backpedaled if it's so obvious. You know what would do a better job of proving me wrong?Having a real argunment
>>332785271
>Classes
Good try, but I never said that the classes differed. People with the same class and same gear do not hold the same Grift level. Try to make relevant arguments.
>>332785271
>Gear is all that matters
>kek all you need to do is these other things
Why don't you just show me how easy it is? Would shut me up
>>332779447
>T9
>Tal Rasha memer
Call me when you decide to git gud.Delsere's Magnum Opus with Energy Twister is a far better set this patch. Especially if you use Etched Sigil
>>332786542
>the difficulty doesn't come from gear
>w-wait I actually meant that the d-difficulty doesn't come from OBTAINING gear
It's time for you to stop posting.
>>332786701
I'm not saying that you're saying anything. I'm telling you where the "difficulty" in Diablo comes from.
Some people are retards and play like regards/not as efficiently as possible, like the anon who thinks keeping taeguk applied is hard.
Animal Crossing
>>332786920
see
>>332783305
>They've made it so fucking easy to get gear in D3 that you're fitted in a few days if you know what you're doing.
Like I said, I figured I wouldn't need to spoonfeed the context of your own posts. You brought up obtaining gear, I replied directly to that post saying that gear isn't the difficulty, and you throw out what you said earlier (likely because it was a shit argument)
Your entire argument for me backpedaling is you being so stupid that you can't follow your own argument.
>>332786920
I don't know how often I have to say it. Keeping it up is not hard but there are factors in which it drops or is easier to drop. For you to say there is literally no form of skill in this game you are just wrong. Diablo isn't hard but it isn't just easy. But apparently that concept is too difficult to understand.
Also as a side note do you personally think any ARPG is harder then the next? I personally feel that they are equal in difficulty just different from each other.
>>332786701
its from paragon and fishing not because the game is hard retard.
>>332787235
Obtaining gear carries the implication that the new gear will have better stats and make higher tiers easier. Are you being dense on purpose?
>>332787256
Path of Exile is harder.
>>332786920
>"Gear is everything"
>people have same gear and don't have the same Grift
>"gear and class is everything"
>people have the same gear and class and don't have the same grift"
>"people are stupid"
I feel like you're just making shit up as you go along. First it was gear is all that mattered, than gear and class, now gear doesn't matter, and class doesn't matter. Skill matters (aka playing efficiently). You've basically come around to the side you were arguing.
>>332785797
the lore says nephalem have the potential to be greater than both angels and demons. oh and it also says youre a fag
>>332787515
Feel free to read through the reply chain as we've already been over this. You might need to if you can't follow your own arguments to the extent that you accuse others of backpedaling for replying to points you forgot you made
>>332787583
Gear is ultimately all that matters. Class difference are minute and people ony bring them up to nitpick. The game is so easy that player skill shouldn't even be an issue, but as with all games (especially Blizzard games) you're going to get retards playing it like the guy who can't keep Taeguk applied.
>>332787515
Alright now that you say that is there any reason you think it is harder? It's not the skill tree, that can just be min maxed like anything else. And time is not a factor for difficulty.
I see all ARPGs the same in difficulty when you factor out time spent. They all boil down to positioning/timing and knowledge about the game.
>>332787852
>stop backpedaling
>n-no anon you stop backpedaling
It's time for you to stop posting now.
>>332787315
If you legitimately think that player performance is not a factor you're a fucking idiot. I don't know if it's a coping mechanism for others being above you in Grifts but difference in ability is always a factor.
>>332787856
If you read any of my taeguk posts you would know I said it's not hard to keep it up but that is an instance of a required skill to the game. You have to learn it to progress in certain aspects. But it's cool continue saying that I don't know how to deal with it when I've said before several times that I do.
>>332787856
>player skill shouldn't be an issue
>but it is
Take any game, take out the retards, leave only the people that find it easy. Game is now easy.
If you can say game X is easy because the people who aren't good are retards, why can't I say game Y is easy because the people who aren't good are retards. It's all subjective at that point. All you're saying is player skill
>>332787515
>Path of Exile is harder.
>>332778747
>beat game solo in two sittings
>realize I was offline the entire time
>play torment 1, try out a rift
>some guy joins up and clears the entire rift in thirty seconds
>makes a 150 greater rift and walks through it, netting me >1000 paragon levels
Well, I guess that was diablo 3
>>332788031
>Replied to with actual reasoning and proof
>"I don't have a retort so I'll try insulting him"
That's just pathetic. It's blatantly obvious that you can't argue my point. Try actually countering what I brought up before you throw insults in your post. Otherwise it's just stomping your feet
>>332788001
PoE is harder from both a gameplay and technical standpoint.
Bosses require movement because they will one shot you on higher difficulties and have mechanics other than whack it until it dies. The damaging abilities bosses use are all telegraphed they're avoidable. The newest update added a new random dungeon you do for class upgrades that introduce different kinds of traps that you need to navigate while fighting mobs as well. All these bosses are only not fought in the story but also appear in maps, PoE's version of rifts, sometimes with different abilities.
I could go into detail on any aspect of PoE but it would be a long post. If you have any question about it compared to D3 I'll answer.
>>332788735
>console
but kek
>>332788891
this is bait
>>332788758
>it's entirely obvious that you cant argue my point
Your points been addressed. Just because you continue to disagree with doesn't make it not so. By all means though, please continue.
>Jump on D3 every now and again
>Run through a few rifts with friends
>Shoot the shit, hope for gear we're looking for
>Do a Grift to see where our builds are at
I'm not sure why people have such a hard time having fun with the game. It's not supposed to be some intense, competitive dungeon crawler. You put on some music and run through rifts hoping for shiny items.
>>332788891no one actually likes the labyrinth
>>332789138
>If I say I'm right, I'm right
What ever makes you feel better. I already linked you the post that goes 100% against the point you were trying to make.
>>332789178
>I'm not sure why people are having trouble having fun with a such a mindless slog
>>332789350
>softcore players don't like labyrinth
FIFY
>>332788891
Fantastic so the same thing as Diablo 3 then? Random class specific dungeons with different tasks and difficulties for you. Bosses that don't appear in the story (rift guardians) that will 1shot you if you don't move properly with telegraphed abilities like perendies hit or afixs on the boss.
It's literally the same thing with minor differences. Like I said every ARPG is equal with minute differences but they all boil down to the same difficulty standpoint when time is factored out. Thanks for proving what every single person who claims one is harder then the other says when I ask why they think that.
>>332789351
>If I say I'm right, I'm right
Literally what you've been doing as well.
Is there anything to do after beating the game without the RoS expansion?
>>332789647
>nou
Seriously, if you can't counter my points just stop posting. It's embarrassing.
>>332789583
You're specifically leaving out the nuance and simplifying things. It's clear that you've never even played PoE before.
>rift guardians will one shot you
Good one
>you have to move in D3
Good one
>>332789375
>It's not supposed to be some intense, competitive dungeon crawler.
If you're playing Diablo III and you're actually focused on what is going on, you're doing it wrong. It is mindless. That's the point
>>332789840
All this butthurt over getting called out on backpedaling
>>332789868
>I play on a difficulty easier than what is capable of one shotting me
That is your own fault? You don't fight the first boss of rpgs at level 100, do you?
>>332789973
>it's supposed to be mindless so it's immune from criticism
>>332778747
Cleared GR 53 when I still played and GRs were still pretty fresh. The highest I'd seen online was a DH 76 solo. I had a lot of ancient talent rash, meteor boots, ancient aether walker and such but around 40+ you can easily get OHKO by some of the mobs. If you think the game was too easy you literally did not play high rank GRs. If you say otherwise you're fuggin lying and that's real gay, anon.
>>332789995
>Get blown the fuck out with logic
>So upset that can't stop replying even without any argument
I almost feel bad. I didn't think pointing out your earlier posts would upset you this much.
>>332790102
>not doing grifts at a difficulty you can farm quickly because not only are the leaderboards based on clear time but you also get loot quicker
Retard alert
>>332790132
That's a strange argument anon. Where did you pick that up?
>>332789868
Maybe I should have clarified grift guardians since you didn't understand. I leaderboard and yes they will 1 shot you and break through the second wind with no difficulty. Dying at the end of an 80+ is very common actually. For movement are you seriously trying to claim that you can stand perfectly still while doing progression? Go watch a video as be proven wrong.
I said there are subtle differences but it boils down to the same difficulty.
>>332779751
You have to switch from the character menu.
>game has like 16 difficulty modes
>play on 2nd easiest
>complain game is too easy
Holy fuck you're beyond retarded
The best game ever made without a real objective.
>>332790140
>you can easily get OHKO'd by mobs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O40e7UzfXNw
>>332790294
>not testing your ability/new specs on the hardest difficulty possible for you
Casuals, when will they learn?
>>332790294
That person sure would be a retard. You should tell me who said that so we can laugh at them together. I was laughing at the retard who was stating that easy mode is easy like it matters when harder difficulties are readily available.
>>332790487
I played when GRs first came out. Played for a month or two after.
>>332790382
>dying at the end of 80+ is very common
If you're an idiot
>>332790524
diablo 3 is literally designed entirely around casual play. everything from the skills, gear and stats. That's why they even have a console version.
>>332790487
>merely pretending.jpg
>>332788615
>there's actually people who think d3 is more difficult
Please provide ip so I can turn off Internet fag
>internet tough guys who cleared grift 200 with no gear, their eyes closed, and in 3 seconds
It feels like I'm on Second life. Saying something doesn't make it true.
>>332790862
>there's actually people who think PoS is more difficult
>>332790753
Can you solo the highest rank GR?
>>332790676
Even the "pro's" do so if you're saying the entire playerbase is retarded that's your opinion not fact. Death happens in them and again go watch them clear progression and see it happen.
>>332790952
Give one reason d3 is more difficult.
>>332790997
It's not every ARPG minus time is equal to each other.
>>332790973
Pros die in league of legends to getting ganked, in rainbow six to outside window gib, and sc2 to 4 gate rush.
Are you saying pros don't make mistakes ? Fact is game is easier than other arpgs, not that it's easy. I'm not the guy you're arguing with by the way.
>>332779221
Hopefully the new survival mode fixes this.
Even playing on the base survival mode, the only time I ever died was accidently running through a minefield.
>>332791156
Diablo 2 end game is PvP or rare/perfect hunting
The game is phenomenally well-made. The only issue is spam/hacks.
>>332790409
learn to read, you fucking idiot. it's impossible to switch on my current playthrough
test
>>332791149
They do make mistakes but that guy is claiming you can literally not move and never die to a grift boss which in higher difficulty is not possible.
They are equal and no one has given me a solid reason why one is "harder" then the other. Time spent is the only arguement that I get that I haven't already proven wrong.
>>332791361
>The game is phenomenally well-made.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>332791361
>Diablo 2
>end game
Pick one
>>332791701
Couldn't think of anything to say?
>>332791948
Dispute PvP not being end game
>>332791701
Feel better?
This is why you should never trust internet reviews. Unless you have beaten a game and understand the end game your opinion is invalid.
>>332786217
Update : Just finished it. No bug or anything. I guess they fixed the crashes, never had one in 30 hours. And I alt Tab all the time.
>>332778747
bioshock
>>332787769
Sure, but that does not make you a half god.
Also, Diablo 1 and 2 protagonists were Nephalems too and they are no where as powerful as Diablo 3 Protagonists.
>>332794857
Thanks. Those crashes were specifically in hosted multiplayer. They might not even be present in singleplayer. I'll have to try it again here soon when it's off the backlog.
>>332783357
I agree. It was somehow far worse than the first game.
>>332790809
>progressively more bait the further the image goes
this is a pretty dank meme you have here
>>332796671
Yeah, the backlog is horrible on my side. I have around 1049 games left to beat on my Backlog. And I know I'm missing some new games I bought.
>>332797563
Why don't you just play games that sound fun right now and play your backlog when you can't think of one?
> IF YOU THINK DIABLO III IS TOO EASY, THEN TRY BEATING THE GAME ON TORMENT 37, AND IF YOU DO THAT, THEN TRY BEATING IT ON TORMENT 38, AND IF YOU DO THAT, THEN TRY BEATING IT ON TORMENT 39
Ahahahah, what a disgusting pile of shit this game is. There's no actual proper difficulty curve, and the base game is dirt fucking easy/boring when compared to any proper 3D brawler, so they had to give you a Choose Your Own Difficulty Level that you losers would savage if it wasn't attached to the Skinner Box.
If Diablo III was compared to 3D brawlers, like it actually should be, then even those bottom-shitter Dynasty Warriors clones would be considered equals.
>>332799729
That's what I'm doing. I'm finishing Grim Dawn today and will start Ori next. I have to finish Pokemon Black 2 as I just gotten the last badge, but they filled my Pokemans with so much damn story and hand holding it's annoying to play.
>>332800347
Also, what kind of name is Beulah.
>>332799829
Well, Alisha.. the idea is to test builds at the highest difficulty level you can, and to do that you would essentially need a never-ending skill-cap. That's why D3 is programmed this way. Now, they need to tweak PvP and bring trading back and it will be amazing.
>>332800496
BLACK GALLAGHER BITCH
>>332795250
still scary as shit.
>>332800347
Wish I had all those games. I'm stuck with a Wii/GCN, Genesis, and NES right now. Shitposting on mobile atm as my PC is kill.
>>332801119
Too many games is not really good because even I have choices I cant really play all of them. I really need to get on the older stuff like Saturn games though.
>>332779546
Nigga you never touched Bitterblack Isle, did you?
>>332790409
go to the main menu to switch it retard holy fuck
>>332801573
Older games are fun in that you could sit down for 12 hours and play one start to finish if you wanted to. I like the idea of devoting an entire day to a game.. with proper, munchies/sips/drugs(if you're into that). Newer games are fun too though (can't wait to play SFV, Bloodborne & Minecraft on console for maximum comfy) ..I just don't have them so I find the fun in what I've got. Can't go wrong with Saturn.
>>332802661
Yeah, but the problem is that I always leave pretty soon to check on stuff online. If I play console games, I bring my tablet for that. I never go full on game mode for some reason.
>>332791156
>>332796065
I think commanding an army of permanent skeletons and golems requires more power than commanding an army of temporary midgets
Wario land games
