They were the kings. They were the masters. They dominated for so long. But now people couldn't care less. Why?
>>332694561
Nintendo only dominated the Wii and the NES era.
>>332694561
Iwata died
>>332694913
and the snes era
and every handled era
>>332694561
Not a big deal...
>>332694561
They were only "kings" through SNES
They were only a good company when we were kids
However, they've shat into the mouths of their fans for the past decade, and enough people are finally sick of it.
Their terrible decisions have led to them being completely irrelevant now.
>>332695159
>and the snes era
They barely won against Sega. They didn't dominate anything.
>>332694561
There are cheaper and more available nintendo-esque games on mobile. Also sony happened, tough luck.
>>332694561
They keep making their marketing look "kiddy".
>Miitomo is one of the top trends on Twitter right now, along with "Nintendo"
Yeah, people sure don't care about them alright
they relied on their prior success (wii) to sell a new console, what they must've forgot was the fact that the Wii was actually selling like garbage from 2010-2012. The Wii was over, yet they tried to sell another console with 10 year old tech and pass it off as new because of a gimmicky low-tech touch screen controller.
They are cleaning out from the inside now.
Just today they finally fired Alison.
We did it, boys.
Nintendo is back.
>>332695623
http://trends24.in/
I don't see it
>>332695837
>Nintendo is back
They can't even produce GOOD Mario spin-offs anymore
>>332695837
>Just today
you new m8?
>>332694561
CD-ROMs happened.
>>332695159
>and every handled era
It's not like they have so much competition
>>332694561
You changed demographics. The core was replaced by casuals and nongamers (PEOPLE WHO DONT EVEN PLAY FUCKING VIDEOGAMES) as the main audience. Just let that sink in, people who don't play videogames are catered to more than their original core.
You cant claim or damage control this either, this was their official announced strategy for and since the Wii. Look up Nintendo blue ocean if you wanna deny reality.
Money and shareholders became more important than their fans.
This is what happens when you market to trendhoppers and piss over the enthusiast market for more than a decade.
Once a fad dies, without that core audience to fall back on, you die too.
>>332696248
Why does everyone keep going doing this? Every fucking game company keeps catering to people who do NOT give a shit about video games.
It fucking pisses me off.
>>332694561
Iwata Died essentially, it seemed he was the force making sure games get released unaltered in their content and really cared for the brand and product, as he stated that their was room for the casual and hardcore in their products.
The new boss is a business manager and looking ways to shut down outlying and money wasting ideas, I wouldn't be surprised if they shut things down like NOA soon.
>>332696756
Money>us. The masses are braindead and casual, and they're easier money. Why cater to a non profitable group when you got masses of drooling retard consumers with no taste or standard you could get easy money from?
>>332695623
wew
>>332696756
Because Nintendo is the only company that has made it an almost exclusive focus for every product they make.
It's like Nintendo thinks "family friendly" means everything needs to be PG as opposed to making a diverse collection of products that cater to every niche.
>>332696248
They don't need to change demographics, they need to drop their draconic policies and allow 3rd party to develop for the machine in the first place.
They aren't the Disney of the Gaming world, as Disney movies now regular feature M and even MA rated movies as movie for children so we can cut out their aim and it has changed since Iwata died.
Now they aiming for the Fisher Price model where nothing really hurts anyone.
>>332697538
It honestly makes me want to quit video games if that's their standard. I don't even care if I lose "friends" in the process.
>>332696756
Money.
It's the only thing that matters to most people. I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't so destructive.
>>332697591
They want to be Disney but they are more like the Fisher Price brand of Video gaming.
There is more than enough room for Mature games and Kids-like games on the console and if they released these games unaltered.
Nintendo unlike Sony, Microsoft and Disney realised that the audience they have been with since the 80s have grown up and are missing out a potential market, without releasing mature games/movies unaltered unlike the later 3 means they have no idea what their audience is now.
Non-stop smear campaigns by viral marketers and retards
>>332696756
It's hard to understate how much of a shock the Wii was to the suits. Business types are still drooling over finding the perfect technique to get that "untapped market" of retirees, soccer moms, and people on disability payments rather than video game players and enthusiasts. They don't consider the fact that it isn't worth their time or not possible, they just figure they haven't found the right way yet.
So now, almost a decade after an unprecedented flash-in-the-pan fad went against market history (and still didn't push said console to #1 for that gen), there companies are, shoveling shit into the mouths of their core customers in hopes of striking normie gold.
>>332697929
Sorry typo I meant to say "haven't realized". then it makes more sense.
>>332694561
People grow up and realize Nintendo games are designed for children.
>>332694561
they made the same mistake twice, which let sony and microsoft get a strong foothold in the industry. Then they pissed away any momentum they had managed to recap with the outrageously terrible release of the wii u. Basically it's been 2 decades of incompetence barring 1 fluke
>>332697380
Iwata is the reason Nintendo is the way it is today. He caused so much cancer, he died of it.
Yeah Yamauchi was stubborn and scared off third parties, but he knew what the fans wanted, he knew treated regional branches as equals and valued their opinions, he didn't assume direct control over them and tell them what they could advertise like Iwata.
>>332697968
overstate, whatever
>>332697629
>They dont need to change demographics
yet they actually did already before the Wii released. It's reflected on their development style and decisions since then with the Wii, WiiU, and 3DS. Everythings become casualized and oversimplified to accommodate people who suck at videogames and the gimmicks that are shoehorned into those titles.
>>332694561
They got super arrogant and refused to follow market trends.
Also chasing the casual demographic when that was a flash in the pan. No really, it was quite fucking stupid.
>>332698061
ARE THE CRYSTAL GEMS
>>332694561
>But now people couldn't care less
>at lest 10 threads per day even thou they have been shit fo the last 8 years
>>332698168
WE'LL ALWAYS SAVE THE DAY
>>332698157
>They got super arrogant and refused to follow market trends.
Sounds awfully familiar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_asset_price_bubble
>>332695837
>fire some no name PR rep
>They're back!
Fucking delusional. Get off this site and go experience the real world, you goddam board obsessed goon.
>>332696248
>muh hardcore vs casual
2016 and people still spout this nonsense. and you site blue ocean like you know what you're talking about.
It was never "us" versus "them." Nintendo just made GOOD games everyone wanted (yes, that includes wii sports). Then they started making games no one wants. That's the entire reasons Wii U tanked. The games suck.
>>332697380
>I wouldn't be surprised if they shut things down like NOA soon.
They could at least axe the Threehouse. I don't think any publisher needs TWO English localization teams.
>>332698270
AND IF YOU THINK WE CAN'T
>>332694561
They went after the casual money
>>332698412
WE'LL ALWAYS FIND A WAY
>>332698369
>axe the Threehouse
CARLOS
>>332698369
This. First thing to go should be the redundant most disposable people starting with Treehouse.
>>332698359
Nintendo abandoned the core, you cant damage control this. It's a real thing you fucking drone. God I hate the modern fans, you're literally sucking Nintendo's cock and allowing them to fuck their old fans in the butt. Kill yourself.
>>332695837
Call me back when they make a not shit mario tennis
Since the NES, every home console Nintendo had released has had fewer and fewer total sales outside of the Wii, the Wii's success, coupled with the DS being a fuckhuge success convinced Nintendo that gimmicks were the future, that's the the DS's successor console would be tied to a 3D gimmick and the Wii's success would use a fucking tablet
Nintendo's convinced they'll be able to still use gimmicks to sell
>>332698359
>That's the entire reasons Wii U tanked. The games suck.
Actually if anything, I'd say the Wii U has had a bunch of fantastic games. Problem is, they completely fucked up with marketing the Wii U so relatively no one bought it.
Honestly so far, the Wii U probably has better games than the PS4 or the Xbone.
And true to what they said, they have targeted actual hardcore gamers and Nintendo enthusiasts this time, but it's just not really enough. Where's the Metroid game? Where's F-Zero?
>>332698237
>/v/ autism relates to market success
Hate to break it to you anon...
They where basically the only game in town in the NES games, since other companies just couldn't compete.They came back as reigning champions in the SNES era, but they didn't have as big a lead as you make it out to be. Ever since the N64 days they've been thrown out of the top spot. At this point they've been in their current, niche state longer than their golden days at the top. As far as things are concerned, their current predicament is what Nintendo is. the NES was a flashin the pan fad
>B-but the Wii's sales
If the Wii's era was a short one like the Gamecube's it could've saved face. And arguably it was due to the Wii U's release. But as far as most people where concerned, that 7th gen didn't really end until 2014; an 8 year era.and the last half of that era was absolutely embarrassing for Nintendo. Yes everyone was buying the Wii, but by 2010 sales started dropping. At that point Ps3 and 360 where both cheap, both had a wide amount of games, and both got big name games the Wii just wasn't getting. Even though it won as far as unit sales, it still fell into embarrassing irrelevance for the last 2 years of its life, to the point where people didn't know it was dead until months later.
>>332695837
Not a single thread about it on /v/
I guess it was really her trying to falseflag a lot here for drama attention.
>>332698616
Get a hobby, please.
>>332699179
Reach the age of 18, please.
>>332698168
WE ARE SOCIALY DIVERSE
>>332699179
I had one, until Nintendo changed.
>>332698141
They did, but they still allowed Mature games on their systems unlike the latter parts of the last year like the Wii U.
They haven't realized that their audience who are still with them and grown up. They need to cater to that demographic as well, kinda a shame when the mobile games THAT they are accusing of being casual are more mature and challenging then the fucking games Nintendo spent millions on producing themselves.
They lost all their spagil because of based Sony, good riddance. Nintendo's never really been good for third-party devs, even back in the NES days.
>>332694561
motion controls happened. All these VR people are about to find out the same thing too
Their success in the 7th gen with the Wii and DS sent them the wrong message.
>Miitomo is the no 1 trending twitter topic in the US
>people could not care less
>>332694561
You grew up, they stood the same... Nintendo main audience is KIDS yes CHILDREN if your age is not on the clock its already time to fuck off
>>332700346
A shitty social app is in ifrst place
Wew lad
>>332694561
Little kids just have horrible taste in games, and they don't have the patience, money, or intelligence to build a PC. This alone explains all of Sony and Microsoft's success.
>>332694561
Nothing, third parties can't admit that they can't race against nintendo. Releasing a game in same week as nintendo game is suicide.
I mean, most Nintendo IPs are still pretty big and popular and they barely do something, hell even xenoblade despite being a "new" IP got a lot of praise with barely have marketing.
A lot of third party or devs would kill for that, on the other side we have Sony and microsoft dicksucking and doing everything to keep third parties on their consoles, cod deals, sony owning part of squeenix for some time etc.
The problem is, nintedo have too much marketshare on their consoles, this could be a bit frustrating for some publishers or devs since it's quite hard a nintendo game having bad score, on the bright side, nintendo consoles don't have AAA games devouring sales.
I dunno what they should do, but I think that they need be more agressive on third party deals, and I'm not talking about dewritos, but new blood, new IPs or make bethsda to make skyrim 2 exclusive to NX.
Honestly I dunno what they are doing.
They threw their hardcore fans under the bus when they discovered massive success with the DS and Wii. They only realized at the last second that the Wii was a one time thing and that the casuals wouldn't return to buy a Wii U, and by that point they had not only burned bridges with every publisher (excluding a couple) but also some of their most core fans.
They expected the third parties to make games for them because they asked nicely, it doesn't work like that and it's ridiculous that Nintendo still doesn't know that despite being in the industry longer than either of the other two.
They could still bounce back but it's impossible when they've got so many old, stubborn men making the decisions. They've been late to the party on HD games, online play and DLC. They still put a region lock on their consoles. For some reason they thought a good idea was to tie digital purchases to the console rather than your account. When it comes to games, they don't care what their fans think and instead of taking feedback and improving them, they insist that they know better than you do, Paper Mario isn't an RPG, there's nothing wrong with Federation Force, you just don't understand the value of the Gamepad.
>>332694561
gimmicks instead of games.
blame waggle.
Wii gave them false hope that has ended up making them too confident and too sure of themselves. They should have realized that motion control thingy was just a temporary (albeit successful) fad, and accept the fact that they just can't hold onto the ultracasual wiisports crowd for more than a few years.
Of course the downfall became even before that, but that was when the downslope became really, really steep.
>>332700984
and now motion controls are back again, and will show some brief false hope but ultimately fail again
>>332700446
>>332700398
The fuck is the story of that picture.
>>332700923
>you just don't understand the value of the Gamepad.
They are quite right on this, anyone could shove hud and battle menu on gamepad screen, or map, shortcuts, hell gamepad even have gyro, it not just a screen with some buttons.
I still wonder why we dont have a EO for WiiU. It's fucking perfect for it.
Sony happened
>>332701790
whoever made this pic related needs to quit this website
>>332700346
>caring about twitter
>tweets correlate to game/hardware sales
Truly, a drone clutching at straws
You can see the same disaster with pokemon. Its been 20 Years and Ash is still 10. Where the Character Development is you may ask? In the Same state as the main Audience. 10 year olds.
I think they really stunted a lot of their internal development by making Wii an overclocked Gamecube and going all in on the motion controls.
They could have made an affordable system with reasonable power [maybe not targeting full HD] and bundled it with two controllers. That way core game players are still satisfied with the system and maybe the non-gamers would have had a more logical path to getting into more games since they would everything in the box.
>>332702698
The Market Overflowing with Shitty Casual Games or Movie Games somehow reminds me of Atari in the 80s
ET 2 on Wii U anyone?
>>332700984
It's like alcoholic gambler that wins a huge one-time jackpots, uses that to justify his lifestyle, and keeps doing the same life-destroying shit even harder after that.
>>332700578
>That first paragraph
You are the most desilusional faggot in this thread
>>332694561
Somewhere around the release of the Wii they realized they didn't have to make better games they just needed to find dumber customers. Now they insist on making products for a customer base that no longer exists because they moved on to cell phone games.
>>332698489
THAT'S WHY THE PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD
>>332695062
More like Yamauchi died
All Iwata did was pander the audience, let Satarfoz and Fzero rot and casualize Mario main series
RUNNING IN THE 90s
>>332696020
To be fair, Hudson Soft's been dead for 4 years.
They fucked up royally with the N64 and the cartridge decision, losing most of the core and 3rd party developers alike. It should have been the end for them then, but realizing this, they turned their attention to the casual market and hit it big with the Wii.
Casuals have since fucked off to the next fad, and the Wii U was way late to the tablet game. Nintendo will probably try to win them over again with the next big gimmick, but it's unlikely they'll ever return to the core gaming system paradigm. They probably think it's not a winnable market space for them, and they're right.
N64 basically killed Nintendo
The games stopped being interesting. Plain and simple.
Ever since fully transitioning into 3D they've stagnated. All the Mario games have the same art style and play out basically the same.
They take risks only in the hardware department instead of trying to shell out risky games.
>>332698616
I bought every system until Wii U and 3DS came out. I am not alone. The numbers speak for themselves. and like others have said >>332698680 they actually targeted "the core" this time. Nintendo didn't abandon you. They abandoned all the Wii fans, that includes both your "hardcore and casual" gamers. That's the kicker. There's never been a divide. Don't buy into the industry's red herring.
>blaming marketing
Wii didn't win because of marketing. Virtual Boy didn't fail because of marketing. It's Another fucking scapegoat.
HOW NINTENDO WINS THE NEXT GENERATION
1) Rename the NX to "The Nintendo" because that's what every mother and grandmother calls it, i.e. the people who make up 90% of hardware sales.
2) Have at least two launch titles. One must be named "Mario" with no subtitles or any bullshit like that. "Mario" is completely free to download and stores will hand out physical copies with download codes on them that will handhold these same mothers and grandmothers into downloading Mario.
3) Mario is a difficult as fuck game. It consists of level designsstoleninspired by levels that Nintendo liked from Mario Maker. You only get three lives. Buying an additional life costs 99 cents, or you can wait a full day to get 3 more free lives.
4) The other launch game is a remake of original Metroid in Prime style with absolutely no story besides "Go kill Mother Brain" and logs. It will show off whatever new graphical capabilities the Nintendo is capable of. It costs 40 bucks.
Gratz I just won Nintendo the next generation.
>>332707395
>HOW TO COMPLETELY RUIN NINTENDO
Fixed
idgi, whats with the no games meme
>>332704520
DO THE DUCKWALK
>>332695837
>fired alison rapp
what does this fix or create? I never got an answer last thread
>>332697774
Better get quittin' anon
>>332694561
Gamecube made them butthurt about R&D and Miyamoto's mid-life crisis shatted on life saving ideas.
>>332708234
Absolutely nothing. It's just SJWs and faGGots playing devil's advocate
>>332708234
It's a major victory against SJW dominion on vidya
>>332697538
and what happens when the casual fucktards move on to the next shiny thing?
>>332694561
We grew up.
All shit games. Even Game Cube had more and better games than that.
WE WUZ KINGS AND SHIT
>>332708039
>All Nintendo and two Sega games
And this is the reason why Nintendo consoles keep failing.. no third party support.
Meanwhile if you look at the average PS or Xbox library, you'll see games from many different publishers.
>>332694561
Last year's kiddies grew up. This year's kiddies play mobile games.
>Dominated for so long
You see the problem is that you children think Nintendo was profiting from N64 and GC and your strung to them because they have your favorite games, except they weren't, they sold like shit
Fuck off
>>332708615
>>>332697538
>and what happens when the casual fucktards move on to the next shiny thing?
I used to like nintendo a lot, but recent policy and decline in quality has lead me to just pirating DS and SNES games now.
>>332694561
They were only the kings during the NES/SNES days. They have always been hated by everybody who develops games. The Wii wasn't a success because of any sort of strong software library, it was just a gimmick casuals bought into because it was new at the time. The Wii U was clear evidence that its time they stopped shitting on third parties
>>332708076
GARNET
>>332708039
>HD Remakes
>Sonic games
>Super Mario Bros/World rehashes
So there is nothing but Splatoon
>>332714256
AND KNUCKLES
>>332694561
They made a lot of mistakes.
The Wii was a weird gamble that paid of as some fluke, and the compamy's been trying and failing to replicate that ever since.
Nintendo needs one to test the waters with a traditional console.
>>332695358
>They barely won against Sega
lel
They just don't have a good lineup of games for their latest consoles.
>>332694561
Kiddieshit company.
>>332715636
Amerifag detected.
>>332696248
I see that copypasta. You can't hide it from me.
>>332700398
If the age is on the clock its good enough to fuck
>>332716304
Eurocuck detected
How's it feel getting cucked by a bunch of Syrians you loser ;^)
>>332698141
>Everythings become casualized and oversimplified to accommodate people who suck at videogames and the gimmicks that are shoehorned into those titles.
So basically 99.9% of Sony and Microsoft's output, then.
>>332694561
>couldn't care less
>couldn't
People are tired of games designed for literal retards. Modern Nintendo design philosophy is to give you a circular hole, a peg, to forcibly grab your hand and guide you to that hole.
>>332698652
They kind of have no choice. Chasing the market Sony and Microsoft inhabit would be suicide at this point. Hell MS is basically hanging on for dear life at this point; we could very well see a $ony monopoly that dwarfs the Nintendo empire of the '80s within our lifetime.
>>332694561
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>>332700398
Spotted the 13-year old GTA player.
>>332694561
They had/have something else to offer other than generic First Person/Third Person shooters. That's it for me.
Nintendo still try to bring some fresh, unique games. They are in a deep and obnoxious moment of stupidity but I have faith things may get better with their new machine. Honestly, amiibo is a cancer. Their approach on digital services are lackluster (shitty desu) and there's lots of DRM scattered everywhere. They started fucking it up with Wii and now things are much, much worse with U. My opinion? Fix those ASAP. Because there's nothing wrong with their high budget games, it's just their stupid policies and market practices helping to bury their image.
>>332694561
Was naming it a "Wii U" a poor decision? It sounded like an add on to the Wii, and rymes with Pii U, so not so good.
>>332716595
It feels pretty bad actually :(
>>332718034
They believed the Wii brand could help to bring more attention to their new system.
What a big mistake. It was exactly the opposite.
>>332716595
I'm American. Just happen to be one of the educated ones. :^)
>has the best selling system this gen
>chased sony out of the handheld market
>first mobile game already number one
>Nintendo
>Kings of anything
They started their own death spiral since the 64, ever since their consoles have had a tiny amount of exclusives and nothing more, granted those exclusives where VERY good games but a platform needs more than that to really prosper, I mean a lot of real good games on Nintendo platforms came from other companies, something Nintendo clearly forgot.
They've also had a history of treating their 3rd party developers like garbage, once other companies popped up most of em said, go fuck yourself Nintendo.
>>332718581
Wii U is the worst selling system this gen anon.
>>332718728
3ds you lil shit
The Nintendo 64 and that entire era is responsible for almost everything wrong with the company today
>>332694561
>they dominated so long
uhhh just the NES/SNES era, they've been shit ever since.
>>332718830
Wii and every handheld gen including this one dominated
>>332718804
Specify next time nigger.
>>332719096
The Wii was nothing more than a flash in the pan, they didn't dominate shit.
>>332719096
Handhelds dont count faggot
>>332695159
>and the snes era
Not at all. It was more like 360-ps3 between snes-genesis.
