IT'S ALL FUCKING OVER
FINAL FANTASY IS FUCKED
>>332664392
Calm down, kid.
It's gonna sell that and more, anon.
How the fuck does this cunt even knows that, shitty clickbait shitty thread fuck off.
>>332664482
Nothing personnel.
I assume 15 mil worldwide. It'll be fine
>>332664392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgoqrgc_0cM
PC ver. at release could have helped quite a bit. Now it's too late Square, enjoy your bankruptcy
>>332664392
So a PC release is inevitable then, aight, fair enough
>>332664392
should be fine my cousin literally went today and bought a PS4 for FF15
This could sell 2 million or 20 million. Nothing would shock me anymore. I don't know where the playerbase for half the games these days comes from. I assume a shit rpg is a harder sell than a shit shooter though.
Well the graphics are gorgeous so it will probably be the best FF ever
>>332664392
PC and NX will help, you don't worry.
>>332664392
Cool. I hope FF finally crashes and burns and they go back to make good games again. The Bravely games were a step in the right direction.
>>332664773
I'm going to pop in my vote for worst graphics so far this gen.
>>332664392
So they expect half of Skyirm's lifetime total sales
Skyrim sold 20 mil right?
>>332664867
>NX
Can we get a FFVII reMASTER instead? Please?
>>332665013
It seems likely with Cloud in Smash
>>332664615
>PC ver. at release could have helped quite a bit.
Literally 500k copies
>>332664491
This. They could literally have released no information on the game at all other than its FF15 and it would still sell millions of copies on the name alone. That's how branding works.
Well, I guess that's the Final Fantasy.
>FF won't sell
lol
>skyrim > FF
I may be wrong but I doubt asia plays elder scrolls.
>>332664392
Looking at the hordes of starving Sonyggers this doesn't seem so unrealistic.
>>332665190
Oh yeah, because normies absolutely love Final Fantasy don't they? Yeah it's just like Assassins Creed and Call of Duty
>>332664615
they make more money this way, hold off on pc and people will eventually cave and buy a console and the game then double down by the eventual pc release whilst avoiding pirates
>>332664392
with how FF sales tanked they should be very happy if they ever reach the half
>>332665231
>I may be wrong but I doubt asia plays elder scrolls.
You are wrong.
>>332665098
Not necessarily, but it'd be really damn cool. I mean, fuck that remake.
>>332664392
>It's fucked
>The 270$ editions were sold out in less than an hour after opening the preorders.
>>332665246
I don't see dudebros wanting to buy a game so gay looking though.
IT'S A KOTAKU ARTICLE
I REPEAT
IT IS A KOTAKU ARTICLE
AAA games can't even sell that much.
Even when they do, they're STILL fucked.
FFXV, in development hell for a decade, is gonna be a fucking financial disaster.
>>332664392
>10 million to succeed
That's more realistic then I thought. I figured with all the other media elements, they would need like 20 million to break even. If it's just 10 to make a profit, then that's realistic. Might take 5 years to accomplish though, I have hesitation to believe a JRPG will be able to sell as well as Destiny, or GTA in a short amount of time.
>>332665542
why won't they die
Probably doomed. Not many games hit those numbers. At this point they may expect a loss and are trying to just get the game out so they can move on after a literal decade.
>>332665437
That happens with literally everything that has a CE or SE
I'm expecting it will break 10M pretty easily.
This is great news
It will flop so hard SE will go back to small budget games
>>332665231
same thing people said about Street Fighter
>IT'S SF BRO OF COURSE IT WILL SELL
TIP TOP KEK
>>332665612
Hulkster hasn't hit up his ATM yet.
It will probably sell 25M.
>>332665647
But dude...270 fucking $ for a fucking videogame...and it's sold out.
What's wrong with people?
Is this really supposed to be Luna?
>>332665363
yes casuals who buy final fantasy are literally just one tier lower than those who buy call of duty, it the "nerd" game where they want to feel special for playing something less popular
>>332664392
It will easily sell that many copies on ps4 in the first week after launch.
>>332665367
>consolefags actually believe this
If they didn't cave to bloodborne they certainly won't for this crap.
>>332664615
You'd be surprised at the number of people willing to buy it a second time.
Good thing they skipped the PC version, pirates would've halved their sales.
Honestly this is only because the development went so fucking stupid
>>332664392
>people will preorder this and buy it at launch after XIII happened
I hope it's good, but I'm never buying another Square game game at launch.
Noctis design is going to sink it all for potential new fans in the west.
People will see his emo attire and think "gay" and not pick it up. No seriously, I think that's going to have an absolutely huge impact on the mainstream success in the west.
>>332665246
You have to remember that the big PS4 exclusive that's always at the top of everyone's list (Bloodborne) didn't even break 3 million sales.
The vast hordes of PS4 owners really only play multiplat dudebro shit like CoD, Madden, Fifa, etc. They don't give a shit about Final Fantasy.
Why should I care about this game? Someone explain this to me.
Never played Final Fantasy never gave a single fuck about this series and from what they've shown so far it still does not interest me at all.
I like RPGs, I like big crazy games just fyi
I know at least 30 people getting the game.
>>332665808
Yeah and how many of those people ordered it so they can resell it on ebay for $400-$500?
>>332664392
it will do that easy
the entire of japan will have like 3 copies per household
>>332665584
>Might take 5 years to accomplish though,
That doesn't sound good, m8
cute?
10 million isn't that many for a AAA GRAFIX action game that's coming out on every platform
>>332665808
>270 fucking $ for a fucking videogame...and it's sold out.
The problem is 270 fucking $ for THIS fucking videogame. The level of delusion is off the charts. FF fags have surpassed Sonic fags in that regard.
>>332665808
Not him but I bought the 270$ edition to resell later at higher price.
>>332666032
>I like RPGs, I like big crazy games
those are literally reasons to get FFXV, which you would know if you gave yourself a chance to watch a sub-two minutes trailer
>>332666170
>Axel in a fedora
sure I guess?
>>332664491
13 only sold like 7 million across two platforms i dont think the FF name has that kind of appeal anymore since they keep doing retarded shit
>>332665821
Nah.
Even when you account for the fact that there is fuck all else to buy on the PS4 it will still only sell 5 or 6 million tops due to the fact that it's a faggoty ass looking JRPG and most people have too much self respect to buy something so gay.
>>332666178
XIII sold like half of that, though.
>>332665808
I know right?.
I bought two.To profit in eBay.
>>332666178
That's actually very sizeable
>>332664392
Frankly its probably 10m sales at full price. They keep adding shit like the cgi movie and increasing the cost of the product.
It will sell 5m at most. Sonyggers will say that it was enough because they started working on the game last week, and its an indie game made by 15 people. Funny thing, they will defend it like it was a ps exclusive when its in fact available on xbox too.
Expect at least 2 sequels reusing assets.
They put Max in it.
>>332666254
You also have to take into account how many of those 7 million people deeply regretted their purchase. It doesn't bode well.
how long until they announce the whole game will be split into 3 parts?
>>332664392
I assumed this after seeing an entire live event and a FUCKING CAR for a single video game.
It needs to sell about the same amount as The Witcher 3 and MGSV combined.
>>332666257
>people have too much self respect to buy something so gay
You know so little about your fellow man I'm happy you're stuck in /v/
>>332666178
Very few games sell that much. Even amongst the AAA multiplats they rarely see numbers like that.
I'm downloading the demo now to play for the first time. I'm thinking I'm probaly going to like it if its like Kingdom Hearts. So thats one sale from me.
>>332665820
This.
FF is on the same level as overrated triple AAA garbage western shit and FF15 will be just as bad as those games.
>>332664392
I'll be more than glad to be 1 in those 10M but I'm not sure if my PC will even manage to play that game on lowest resolution.
>>332665246
>Dudebros that largely ignored BB, when Dark Souls youtuber meme what at its peak, and having actually higher quality combat than ffxv and western appeal will for some reason buy ffxv
Bro adventure instead of whiny cunt feminist leads.
Cidney semen demon
Awesome open world.
Awesome battle system
Amazing production values
If you don't think this will sell like nuts you're crazy.
>>332666178
Yes it is. Especially for a JRPG.
It has to sell twice as much as The Witcher and Metal Gear Solid V to even be considered worth Square's time.
>>332666415
Which isn't unlikely. Literally no casual knew about witcher before 3 got 10/10 reviews and MGS has always been fairly niche for a AAA blockbuster.
>>332666475
It's not. You're going to be disappointed if you're expecting an action game.
>>332666475
Well its not. The gameplay is slow and controlling Noctis feel very sluggish and not responsive at all.
Also FPS drop like crazy.
JUST KEEP THROWING MONEY AT IT.
DON'T STOP. EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT IF WE JUST KEEP THROWING MONEY AT IT.
WHAT? SPIRITS WITHIN? WHAT'S THAT? KEEP THROWING.
>>332665907
I bought Collector's, Deluxe, and Standard Editions. I plan to buy the PC version when that comes out too.
>>332666178
>every platform
>>332666553
It's gay as fuck. Sure, it looks shiny, but casuals like action games, not games with numbers in them with clunky combat systems.
>>332666629
This. I don't know where /v/ got the idea that MGS was a gaming icon.
Everyone looks fugly in the movie.
>>332664392
That's a little high considering FFVII didn't even break that. Its not impossible or anything, but there might be moderate backlash for it changing the gameplay style so much if the story's not great that could hold it back to 7 or 8 million even with the hype.
>>332666553
Except Japs want cute girls doing cute things
Westerners dont want the Thailand Backstreet boys
If BB didnt sell well to the ps4 audience this will never sell.
>>332664491
This.
Just testing if "this" triggers the upboat
>>332665924
SE's new PC releases now use Denuvo
>>332666451
If my only experience of the world was /v/ I'd think everyone on the planet was a weaboo who couldn't wait to buy 10 copies of this game.
"Normies" don't want to play games about gay Japanese pop stars and their retarded "nothing personal, kid" anime fights.
But will it take full advantage of my PS4K?
What people don't seem to understand is that 80% of PS4/Xbone owners are just like the Wii owner base. People who bought the console for one/two mainstream games (FIFA, GTA, CoD) or for something unrelated to videogames. They're casuals so they won't give a fuck about FFXV.
>>332666778
>where /v/ got the idea that MGS was a gaming icon
MGS is most definitely a gaming icon, but being a gaming icon doesnt really mean anything in this discussion. Its about sales and MGS doesn't really sell compared to most other AAA games. You can be an icon and still sell poorly.
>>332664491
unless it gets the fifa lixense for the sport minigame it's impossible to sell more than 3M copies of anything on the PS4
>>332664392
this is a console seller in Japan so I would not shock me if they would sell console down there over this game.
>>332664935
nips are into FF so it would not shock me, if it became a console seller. why do you think Bravely even sold a dime in Japan? Because of the name Flying Fairy at the end, which is a nod to Final Fantasy the name alone.
if this and Persona 5 don't sell, I am certain that there will be an effect, so next to non jrpg in the west for a long time to come from these big companies.
>>332666778
>This. I don't know where /v/ got the idea that MGS was a gaming icon.
It is.
Metal Gear Solid 1 came along at the right time and place and become absolutely huge with a massive following, even after a lot of fans felt betrayed with MGS2 the franchise is still huge.
I think MGSV is the best selling MGS yet, it raked in more money than the Avengers at launch.
I smell another commercial failure.
they probably dont actually need to sell anywhere near that much since sony are most likely giving them hand jobs with wads of cash to make it exclusive
>>332666032
Just download the demo and see if anything catches your attention. It might turn you off a bit playing as young Noctis, but you can get a general idea of the new combat. Its free so you have nothing to lose but your time.
>>332665808
every limited edition of anything is sold out because of the scalper market whih allow not only easy laundering, but benefits at that
>>332666973
Id still argue that the MGS name carried more weight than mainline FF these days though.
Final Fantasy hasn't had a huge success since FFX and the sales show it.
>>332664392
it's been in development for at least 10 years. Considering it was announced as Versus XIII in 2006, there's a good chance it was at least in a pre-development phase before then. I'm not surprised they're looking for 10 million units in order for it to make money. This is exactly why if a game gets past 5 years in development and isn't ready for release it should just be scrapped, or salvage what you can and make a new game out of it.
Will it be the final Fantasy?
If the division did numbers I'm sure ff xv will also. It doesn't look like a FF game in the trailers; it looks like a crazy cyberpunk action game that all the kiddies will want.
> people think this wont sell fallout 4 numbers on ff7 hype alone
This place is delusional. Even battlefront moved 10 million copies
all 3 final fantasy 13 games barely sold a million worldwide.... shooting a little high arent ya SE?
I mean, GTAV had sold 11 million copies within 24 hours of release. Seeing FFXV's marketing budget, this shit will pass 10 million sales easily. Not as fast as GTAV, but will pass it. Plus with the eventual PC release will provide a boost in sales.
Its not unrealistic
>>332667139
The PoS that was FFXIII manage to sell 7.5m copies. I think XV can at least manage that.
>>332667218
>comparing gay backstreet boys to star normies
lol
>>332667218
Did battlefront really?
>>332666823
>otaku's are japan
stop
The fact that the whole cast looks like a boy band will kill this game in the west
>/v/ honestly believes FF isn't mainstream as fuck and that it won't sell at least 10mil.
Look my best friend is as normie as you get, he genuinely believes Skyrim is the best TES, he loves FO4 and thinks it is the best RPG ever made, and mostly plays Halo and CoD. He is hyped as fuck for this game, so you can believe that this is the average response most people will have. The game will sell a lot, I mean didn't the CE already sellout? It was $270 for fucks sake, that's almost FO4 levels of hype right there.
>>332666823
>If BB didnt sell well to the ps4 audience this will never sell.
Bloodborne sold extremely well because it was a game with a modest budget and it knew its audience. It rehashes tons of shit from Souls and no super expensive cutscene set-piece bullshit.
It was a huge success at just 2 million for Sony back during release, and I wouldn't be suprised if it has moved like 3 million at this point. Good word of mouth and being the only PS4 exlusive that's worth a shit gives it a slow burn aswell.
>>332666945
>What people don't seem to understand is that 80% of PS4/Xbone owners are just like the Wii owner base. People who bought the console for one/two mainstream games
This is a myth. The 360 had the highest attachment rate followed by the Wii. The console for casuals who just wanted one or two games last gen was the PS3, it had the lowest attachment rate.
>>332667307
>backstreet boys
>gay
To release it before the ps4k is a shit tactic. I would release it along the ps4k. Right now I dont have a ps4 and I wont buy a regular ps4 with the ps4k around the corner. Im pretty sure a lot of people share my dilemma.
I was planning on buying a ps4 and the game. But now I would prefer to wait for the ps4k some months later. Im not going to buy a ps4 and ffxv, just so 4 months later Sony releases a new console. But if Im going to wait then might as well just buy a new gpu for my pc and wait for the pc release. The game will be propobably re released on ps4k with more shit.
This will eat sales away.
>>332664392
Wow talk about a money sink, I woner if this will be the Spirits Within of Squenix.
10M for a game radically different from the original formula on console only ? Not happening, maybe they could with a PC release as well.
>>332667248
The desperate console cucks will snatch this game up because they have literally nothing else to play on their pathetic immobile laptops.
>>332667192
>>332667218
Those are games that the current normie audience was excited about.
What the fuck is Final Fantasy and why are those fags looking such fags.
They will need an NX & PC release to help that
FF isn't COD/GTA
>>332667139
Final Fantasy XIII is SE's fourth best selling game of all time, selling about 7m between two platforms. MGSV still hasn't sold 7m between FIVE platforms.
>>332667331
According to EA, yes. Think it was 12
>>332667248
>I mean, GTAV had sold 11 million copies within 24 hours of release.
It's also a much bigger series. Since III, GTA has regularly sold in the tens of millions, while only one Final Fantasy has been able to sell as well as they hope XV will.
>>332666945
>Source : my ass
Is this the most bloated release of all time?
Absolutely retarded numbers, and they're setting themselves up for a RE6 scenario. That said, XV has a shot in hell of pulling it off if it ends up being as good as it looks.
>>332667537
Look at the software sale charts dummy.
As someone with no investment in the series, it's gonna be fun to watch the ride no matter what happens.
>>332666990
>nips
Yeah, I can tell they want the fujo audience. Hopefully they'll fail.
P5 is cool as fuck though. This is lame.
>>332667347
>extremely well
>Literally nothing to play on the fucking console when it was released
>Dark medieval atmosphere with no weeb stuff, appeals to westerners
>Riding on Le super dificulty youtube meme
>Stellar reviews
>Follow up to the cult hit Demons Souls
>Playerbase already on the 20m by then
>2m
>Outsold by weird borderline indie shit like Splatoon on a dead console, also new ip
>Sold extremely well
No, no it didnt.
RANDOM HEADLINE OF SHITTY GAME JOURNALISM
HOLLLLLLLY FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>332666823
>underestimating the fujoshi crowd
>>332667474
> implying normies don't know about 7 remake, and by default this
Just put the flying car in a trailer at release and its golden. Or add in a 7 mini demo
>>332666363
>Sonyggers
It's multiplatform and if any group will say this are the XV fags.
>>332664940
OOOF SPICY MEME THERE FELLA
>>332667558
It might very well be now that I think about it.
>>332666032
I don't really give a shit if you care about it or not, dude.
>>332667605
FFXV is casual pandering baka. Why the hell would they jump the open world meme bandwagon with this entry.
>>332667657
Enjoy your vaporware then. Fucking Atlus. What happen with P5 anyway?
Weren't people saying the Japanese console industry hinges on this game being successful? Good, I hope it bombs.
>>332667684
are you retarded?
>>332664392
Square is done
>>332667826
To be fair FF alway had "open world" mentality with its world maps, this only westernizes the concept.
>>332667484
>still hasn't sold 7m
It's been out for six months. It took years for XIII to sell 7 million.
>>332665231
>I doubt asia plays elder scrolls.
you're 100% wrong, Skyrim was very well received in Japan
they just liked 3rd person mode more than the west
They canceled 10 of my UCE on the website. Just letting you guys know.
>>332664392
Game developers need to chill the fuck down. How fucking hard would it be to make games with reasonable budgets? Oh right, impossible from a business point of view.
>>332667347
Bloodborne was a very high profile release for the PS4 and it had fuck all competition. It doesn't matter what the budget of the game was or whether Sony was still able to turn a profit, a couple of million is not a great sales figures.
Bloodborne may have been a financial success but it was not a sales success.
It's a shit franchise and deserves to die.
>>332668015
sorry but it's <current year> games sell 90% of their lifetime units in 3 weeks.
YOU SEE THIS?
This is your future.
Was at the gym yesterday and two of the trainers were talking about the new demo. I don't know where you college nerds socialize, but I hang around plenty of normal dudes in their late 20s who already preordered XV or are just excited for a new FF game. On the other hand my best gay friend thinks the characters look too faggy (but he loves Cor and Hime).
>>332668205
Trying too hard to fit in there, kid.
>>332668163
This is just a case of devevolpment hell because someone didn't want to scrap his pet project no matter how much money it wasted.
>>332667684
Bloodborne sold well over Sony's expectations you cuck.
>XV has to sell more than every game besides VII
>off the back of XII, Type-0 and a bunch of other average as fuck games
>in an environment where Japanese games popularity is on a continual downward slope among the main stream
Uh.. good luck with that.
>>332667684
>No, no it didnt.
Hmmm, oh boy, some Anon on an imageboard, or Sony's offical statement, who am I supposed to trust here?
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bloodborne-sales-surprised-sony/1100-6427389/
>>332668132
Works fine for me senpai.
My 3 preorders are still there.
>>332668015
you don't understand how sales work I see.
When did they add an anime series to it? Holy shit SE
STOP WASTING FUCKING MONEY
Now we have the anime series, the movie, the game, the car. This is stupid. At this rate this needs 15m sales
>>332667481
>PC
Just wait a few years after the console release. Also square uses Denuvo so you can bet there will be some booty blasted "potential customers" if it's announced.
>>332668163
Square already does modest budget games with franchises like Drakengard/Nier, Bravely, Star Ocean and Dragon Quest.
They just have a really weird relationship with the Final Fantasy franchise.
>>332668163
>developers
are a very little part of the budget. a third is sank into marketing. and half into out sourcing the graphics and assets(including voices).
>>332668295
He's right.
As soon as they merged with Enix, everything went to shit.
>>332668331
good goy, buy the damage control bullshit.
>>332668317
Why is this still up for discussion ?
For the amount of marketing BB received, the utter lack of competition in its gameplay and its sales windows and the massive viral marketing from fans, it sold like shit.
>>332668390
I do wonder how much they would need if they just kept it all to a game.
>>332664392
Where the hell do they get the number anyhow? Did SE literally said they need 10m sales? Or this is just another one of those clickbait article.
>>332668323
I like how they set the target so high but also decided to release a FF7 spinoff the same year so people will just go for the "safe" game instead of the new one.
>>332668567
Tabata interview
>>332666006
the game is on xboxone az well
>>332668396
>Spirits Within
What a huge fucking blunder.
>yfw SE meets their sales goal and then drops the episodic VII remake to solidify their future business for years
>Releasing game with incredibly high sales target
>money getting pumped into cgi and anime
>building a fucking car
It's happening again...
Look forward to Square-Enix-Atlus in 2018
>>332668623
If it's true then, 7R is their final trump card, or they could also whip up another MMO just to recoup the sale. Man, how fucking ambitious Tabata is.
>>332668496
>against all factual evidence, i am right
/v/ everyone
>>332668267
I don't know if Capcom wasn't expecting this. SFV's launch seemed geared towards the hardcore/competitive scene rather than the casual scene.
>>332668132
10 out of how many? NA or Europe?
>>332668395
Reminder that everytime SE launches an old game on pc it launchs at really low prices. You are just salty we will get the definitive version one year later for just 20 bucks
>>332664392
>exclusive
kek
>>332668402
> Marketing and assets are only bloated thing in modern gaming developement
Do your research, man. Dev teams have grown tenfold for an average AAA game from PS2 era, from 30-60 to +400 regulars and part time staff for end crunch. FFXV has had at least 150 people working on it for nearly a decade - of course the sales expectations are going to be high.
>>332665963
Dude, FF13 actually was very successful. Why do you think it was able to get as far as it did
>>332667484
>Fourth best selling
No, it's actually the 3rd
FF7: 10 million
FF10: 6.7million
FF13: 6.2 million
FF8: 6 million
The profitable sales to a game are only prominent in the year that the game is released.
>>332668396
Final Fantasy is just a big seller. Those games you named are lower budget and therefore don't need to sell millions of copies.
Kingdom Hearts is in that same boat with Final Fantasy.
>>332668734
Honestly, I was hoping for this. Just so I can get the 7R with just one purchase. Fuck the multipart bullshit.
>>332668487
>confronted with facts and sources.
>resorts to memes.
Disappointed but not surprised Anon.
>>332668656
Still a better film than Advent Children.
Plebs gonna pleb.
>>332664392
XIII sold 25mil
>>332666178
even for a triple A game its rare to sell more than 10 million copies
>>332664392
10 mil is nothing.
how many did gta V sell? a lot.
>>332664392
There is no way FF XV will sell 10 million on ps4 alone. We all know dudebros on xbone won't buy more like 1 million and pc is a fucking joke and pcuck don't buy games. Square is in deep shit - they are releasing multiplatform game and has to count on sales on single exclusively platform... They are screwed as fuck.
>>332668937
FF8 was around 8 million wasn't it?
>>332668902
Multiplats dumbass. There's going to be a PC release, ones they need the extra sales figures. Just be patient you cuck.
I was playing the demo and was severely underwhelmed by how simple the gameplay is. Why are we hyped for this?
Black Ops 3 made more than 550 million I don't see why Final Fantasy can't
>>332668173
>Bloodborne may have been a financial success but it was not a sales success.
Yes it was?
It was obviously made as a game to move consoles, it did that and then some, as Sony themselves have stated.
>>332669091
if you're going to use one of the best selling games of all time I guess it is pretty low
>>332669050
*7.5
>>332668567
>Did SE literally said they need 10m sales?
Yes, they did. But they did specify this is the required sales from it's lifetime, not the release window.
I sure hope they have accounted for the fact that they can't sell it at full price forever otherwise they have severely underestimated the lifetime sales numbers they need.
>>332665116
Fallout 4 has sold over 3 million in 4 months, GTA V at least 4 million in less than a year on Steam alone not counting retail copies, Witcher 3 1.5 million on Steam and not counting GOG/retail copies.
FFXV would've been at least an easy 2 million sold within the first year, assuming the game is any good and they had bothered releasing a competent port the same day as consoles.
>>332669105
Xbone will be the other 5 mililon. back in the day, Xbox wasn't well known for having a Final Fantasy game. FF13 established this easily and it's become a norm now.
Plus, Xbone has at least gotten better since it's terrible launch.
desu I cant believe delusional sedrones think this will come close to selling 10m, the room wasn't even full for fucks sake.
>>332669091
I don't know if you're pretending to be retarded but...
GTA V is the fastest selling entertainment (not just games) product in history
FF XV is a blemish compared to it
http://www.ibtimes.com/ps4-vs-xbox-one-sony-has-sold-over-35-million-playstation-4-consoles-2013-launch-2250196
Reminder that Sony sold 35 MILLION playstation 4s without releasing a single game worth owning on the system.
>>332666178
It actually is, unless you're talking about GTA or Call of Duty, 10 million units is a fuck load.
>>332665098
And Ryu for Street Fighter V and Snake for MGS 4? ;-)
>>332669205
>sameshit the game made more than 550 million
Gaming has truly gone to shit. compared to this FFXV sales expectations are reasonable
>>332668937
8 sold more than that senpai
>>332666681
>implying you would actually pay for it anyway if it was on PC
fuck off mustard race
>>332669412
denuvo has more or less stopped pirates from stealing games anon
Assuming it is shit, but has good marketing, it'll selll.
Casuals love bad games with good marketing.
>>332669252
This is just my gut feeling regarding what Tabata actually said. “10M sales for it to be successful”. I think this actually points to that one of the goal of XV was to surpass VII. How do you know if XV actually surpasses VII? Answer is, sales figures. But, I could be wrong though
>>332668163
in addition to modern marketing budgets ballooning cutting away at actual game funding
modern AAA games everyone! make sure you pre-order your mountain dewritos!
>>332665817DELETE THIS
>>332669227
>It was obviously made as a game to move consoles, it did that and then some
Roughly 5% of PS4 owners also own Bloodborne.
This is not just not a significant console seller figure, it's a failure as a console seller figure.
>>332664392
>>332669397
>>332669142
FF8 only has sold 7.85 million right now due to how many years it's been out.
FF8 came out in 1999 and it's 2016. That's at least 17 years. FF8 sold most of it's sales back in 1999-2000.
FF13 sold 7.25 million in 2016. FF13 sold most of it's sales back in 2010 with 6.2 million copies. That is only 6 years.
FF8 has had WAY too much time to build up while FF13 has only had about a little over a 3rd of that time
>people seriously comparing Bloodborne, an undermarketed game aimed for a niche audience, to fucking Final Fantasy: Metal Gear Brojob Edition
>>332669650
Still sold more than XIII :^)
>>332669650
its a videogame anon most of the sales occur with their first year
>Anime
>Movie
>Car
>Famous actors dubbing
Gee, I wonder why. All they need now is a FF XV launch party with supermodels.
>>332669650
Maybe because 13 had female lead and sexist westerners couldn't appreciate it?
VII: 9.72 mil
VIII: 8.15 mil
X: 6.6 mil
IX: 5.30 mil
XII: 5.2 mil
>anyone seriously expecting this shit to sell anywhere near 10
If there was no f7 remake on sight it would be possible to sell 10 millions, but now that f7 its on his way I see no point in wasting my money on final fantasy: boys love edition.
>ten million copies
>when only a hundred thousand people have a nogamestation4
>no pc release
L to the MAO
>>332669265
Saving this post for later use. Hope you don't mind. ;)
Easy. Release on Steam.
>>332666985
Good thing it's coming to PC then
>>332669807
the anime itself probably isnt that expensive to make since its being made by a-1
>>332669671
I think you're overestimating the popularity of FF
I'd imagine it'll sell around 7 million
>>332669860
dumb animeposter
>>332669168
Again, the demo strips the combat to it bare bones. There's no techniques, no party combos, no cross combos, and no summon. Watch the Niflheim footage again, and you'll see the combat is actually similar. But, performance was horrible. But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt since they've only announce the Umbra software use just 2 weeks ago
>>332669832
now look the sales for 13
>>332669607
>Roughly 5% of PS4 owners also own Bloodborne.
Which is fucking great? Most people who own a PS4 has like Call of Duty and Fifa for it. Bloodborne was designed to make more dedicated players want a PS4, not the dudebro audience.
>>332669924
And poorly animated, of course. But even then it's a cost. Also, I forgot Florence and the Machine singing Stand by Me.
>>332664392
Honestly the only way they could sell 10 mil is if they release for PC as well.
>>332664392
it really is over, they need to just scrap the game at this point
from the looks of things literally nobody is going to buy the game
everyone probably just wants kingdom hearts 3
>>332669263
>xbone will sell 5 m
TOP KUK. This isn't fucking COD, this is japanese game - look at their sales on xbone, fuck - look at the sales of type 0 HD
>>332670041
Final Fantasy XIII: 6.5 million
Final Fantasy XIII-2: 3.1 million
Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII: 1.4 million
That was in 2014 and you can probably add a few million to those numbers now that they're all out on Steam as well.
>>332664392
Already failed since they are making "video game products"
>>332664392
You could say it will be their *puts on sunglasses* final final fantasy
>>332669834
A lot of people are going to buy a ps4 just for this title but might wait for the ps4k. I know I do.
>>332670041
>Final Fantasy XIII: 6.5 million
>Final Fantasy XIII-2: 3.1 million
>Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII: 1.4 million
Yeah, things sure look good now, don't they?
>>332669736
>>332669750
>>332669827
Not really, timeline wise, FF8 still has sold less due to the fact that that FF8 has had way much more time than FF13. If we compared the same time frame with FF13, then FF8 still is inferior to the sales
>FF8: 6 million in 1999-2000
>FF13: 6.2 million in 2010
>Every year, FF8 sells 115,625 after
>Every year, FF13 sells 208,333 after
>FF13 sold 7.25 million in 2016
>FF8 sold 6.578 million in 2005
It's still inferior.
10 million is about half the average sales for a call of duty game. GTA4 sold 2.5 times that amount with tons of controversy no less. Considering how vidya has boomed in popularity since 2008 and how marketing has become even more powerful with how twitter, facebook and youtube exploded, I'd image GTA4 would sell way, way more than that. These things would have also affect FF13's 6.5 million units sold.
Aaron Paul has 2.57 million followers on Twitter alone. He will shill this game most likely.
PlayStation has 10.6 million followers on Twitter. The PS4 has sold +35 million units, about a third of the lifetime sales of the Wii, the fastest selling console of all time. And the PS4 is only one of two platforms the game will be released on. Xbone will pretty much always have somewhere between a half to a third of the sold units of the PS4 (according to the wiki page, its at >10 million). If the console sales ratio reflects game sold, then for every three copies sold on the PS4, one will sell on the xbone.
and WHO is going to buy it?
The japs don't have PS4's to make a difference.
The artstyle and character that they've shown they don't appeal to western audiences.
FF as a franchise is washed up. FF is not something that the mainstream vidya pleb cares about not anymore.
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>>332670276
>>332670397
7 million anon keep up
A random journalist on the internet knows the exact figure needed to recoup costs for the game. WOAH
>>332670324
There's still the long awaied 7Remake though.
>>332670276
>you can probably add a few million to those numbers now that they're all out on Steam as well
If you said "add a few hundred thousand" more you'd be a lot closer to the truth.
>>332670397
>>332670276
FF13 is the number title
FF13-2 and LR are the spinoff games
>X-2 sold 3.4 million
>FF10 HD remaster: 1.6 million
>Crisis Core: 2.57 million
>Dirge of Cerberus: 1.2 million
>Before Crisis: 1 million
>Advent Children: 2.6 million physical + ticket sales
Spinoff games don't sell anywhere as much
>>332667337
japanese people who play ff are though
fuck weebs tho
>>332670416
I mean sure if you want to be that autistic about it
