>R.U.S.E. has been pulled from Steam and its website deleted due to licensing issues
http://www.pcgamesn.com/ruse/ruse-has-been-pulled-from-steam-and-its-website-deleted-due-to-licensing-issues
So far people who have already purchased it can still play it, but the developer says they have no idea if this will last.
Basically there is a big risk that a game you may have paid money for will be taken away from you because of some 80 year old tank's licensing rights.
>supporting Ubisoft
>trusting Steam
>video games
>>332654628
>renting digital games
What the fuck did you expect pcfats?
>>332654628
>shit game gets deleted
who cares?
>copyright infringement
Redesign it?
>>332654805
>Doesn't know that a updated patch from Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft can do the same to consoles
There is a reason consoles aren't backwards compatible, it's not because it isn't possible. It's because of licensing.
>>332654628
nigga, this shit happens all the time. you can still play it if you own it.
>>332654891
The PC version of GTA regularly has a song patched out of the game by the latest update, because the license is over.
The console version suffers no such issue. Yet. If the trend continues and offline consoles become rare, I imagine we will join you in the cuckshed.
>Not buying physical copies
I wouldn't worry though, I doubt Gabe would allow it and even if he did, he'd probably compensate the owners in some way. I have a host of games that have been pulled from steam but still work fine
>>332655015
link
>>332654891
>>332655015
It would be better if companies avoided licensing issues completely, anyway. Write your own songs, design your own tanks, invent your own sports. Quit taking from real life and be fucking creative for once.
>>332654886
>paying money to patch an unprofitable game
>for the benefit of Steam users
>Ubisoft
>>332655069
In this case, the physical copies are being taken off the shelves.
>>332655075
One song was removed from GTAV, cant find the info.
17 songs were removed from San Andreas.
10 songs were removed from Vice City.
You can just google it, plenty of articles.
>>332655015
As shitty as it is, at least we can mod it back in in a matter of minutes. Besides I have the PS2 disc, an iso for emu and the PC version. The problem will be once they start removing shit from online games because then it will get a lot harder to mod stuff back in.
>>332655265
Its just fine on my shelf.
>>332655175
>write your own songs
>use original music for the radio in a game that is a period piece satire of american pop culture
nice idea dingus
>>332654628
There are a handful of games that were removed from Steam years ago. You can still redownload them if you already bought them.
This just means you can't buy them anymore. Consolefags are retarded though
>>332655372
You can't write songs satirizing American pop culture?
>>332654628
Oh cool, the Amplitude guys made RUSE? Never played it but their games are great.
>>332655370
and steam games that are no longer for sale are still available for you to download and play
>>332655370
It's just fine on everyone's shelf, except the store's.
>>332655175
>football game with fake team and player names and leagues
>realistic military shooter with fake guns and vehicles
>atmospheric time period dependent game with fake music
>>332655015
PC users don't care because everybody has custom playlists anyway. Console users are stuck with the shit GTAV soundtrack.
>>332655325
http://www.pcgamer.com/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-steam-update-removes-songs-resolution-options/
>17 songs
>removed from mobile version
>also removed from 360 version
Cool story m8.
>>332654628
I want to get off Kojima's ruse cruise
>>332654628
>tfw didn't buy it because ubisoft
>>332654628
There is no reason why they can't go in and swap out the offending tank's model for a fictional but similarly shaped and sized model of a tank. This is a non-issue unless they want it to be one.
>>332654886
>Ubisoft
>Giving paying customers anything after they already paid
>>332655325
atleast gta games have custom radios, just add all the missing songs
>>332655623
see >>332655192
It costs money to make a new model and implement it.
The game is old and not selling anymore.
Basically spending money without hope of return.
>>332655459
I think you miss the fundamental point in having hit songs from the time period in games like GTA.
>hey its that song I remember from the 80s!
Oh wait, it isn't that song I remember from the 80s. Its some song no one remembers from the 80s because it was written by some composer 6 months ago for a game.
>>332655703
>>332655576
>just pirate the music lol
And that is why PC players will always be second class.
>>332655574
You say that like none of it's ever been done before.
>>332655893
What realistic military shooter has all fake guns and vehicles that aren't just real guns with generic names?
>>332655850
As opposed to not being able to do anything about it?
>>332655843
But it's LIKE some song from the 80s, just like the game is LIKE the 80s.
It's fake from top to bottom anyway, so why is it a problem to have fake songs?
THANKS DISNEY!!!
>>332655850
If you purchase a game with licensed music after said license has expired, you're effectively pirating it
sausauga plebs
>>332655850
>option to mod in the tracks again
>no option to mod in the tracks again
Gee I wonder which one is better.
>>332655992
...Halo?
>>332655576
>Soundtrack is shit because I have to defend myself somehow when my pcgame gets content removed
Really? Can't you just act like a normal human being and say "Yeah it's a shame but licensing is licensing i guess".
But no, let's take this opportunity to bash at another entertainment module as well, since that will defenitely improve everything you're bitter about in life.
Jesus christ
>>332656207
>Realistic military shooter
>>332656207
>Halo is realistic
>>332656207
So you are just shitposting then, okay.
>>332656301
>>332656375
Just because it isn't modern warfare doesn't mean it isn't realistic.
>>332656080
>>332655997
>>332656128
I purchased it in advance, and I didnt have my music removed at all.
No need to pirate music, because it isnt missing, because I own the copy of the game.
>>332656435
you're copy of the game exists in violation of the copyright owner's wishes
reported to the RIAA
>>332656432
>alien guns that shoot pink needles
>realistic
>>332656575
Are you telling me alien guns wouldn't shoot pink needles? Because I believe they'd shoot pink needles.
>>332656435
A disc copy on PC is exactly the same. You realize you won't have the option in the future since console distribution is going digital too.
The 360 version got the songs removed too you fucking idiot, difference is you can't patch them back in.
>>332654891
>a software patch can remove your physical DVD/bluray game from existence
How fucking retarded are you sperglord?
>>332656432
>Get shot in the head 50 times
>Thats okay because I have a magic shield
>Throw a grenade that sticks to someone
>Punch a warhog to make it magically flip around
By your logic, no shooter is unrealistic.
>>332655372
Gta3 did it.
>>332656735
>doesn't know a software patch can prevent a disk from actually launching
Enjoy spending 600+ dollars on a second console.
>>332656781
Power armor does that shit, yo.
![1407509953024[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/w38fbyE.png "1407509953024[1].png")
>>332654628
>Game named R.U.S.E has shady shit going on around it
I'm not even going to say anything.
>>332656837
it didn't m8, at best they did a couple, have you already forgotten the radio station that is literally the scarface soundtrack
>>332656435
>>332655850
>>332654805
>this is the average person on /v/
>this brain dead faggot will shitpost till the day he dies
>he will never do anything productive
>all the valuable water and food he's consumed over his pathetic life will never be returned
>all the trash he's accumulated over his life is just taking up space on earth, killing sea creatures
>there are billions just like him
what kind of civilization you want, senpai???
>>332656886
>power armor
>Realistic
Annnnd im done.
>>332654628
>but the developer says they have no idea if this will last.
steam makes it a huge point that if you paid for it, you'll be able to play it.
>>332654628
I guess people who purchased it gotrused.
I guess it was just aTRICK
>>332656985
Are you saying aliens wouldn't have power armor? Because I believe they'd have power armor.
>>332657060
>thinks aliens are advanced
Sorry to break it to you, but all life off earth is just micro level still.
We are the most advance species in existed in all space.
>>332657060
>Are you saying aliens..
Are you 12?
>>332656982
>getting so butthurt and btfo you break down on 4chan
Sounds like they got rused.
>>332656867
No it can't. Your image doesn't even back up your argument. Someone clinging on to a demo doesn't mean anything at all, it is not a "patch that stop discs playing". Literal retardation.
>>332657191
But if we weren't, they'd totally have power armor and guns that shoot pink needles. That's realistic.
>>332656982
>cherry pick 3 posts out of the many in the thread
>from the many threads on the board right now
>from the many threads through the day
>declare they represent the average /v/ poster
You are the brain dead faggot.
>>332656435
You can't do anything about V unless you settle with the original playlist without the newer tracks as you can't pick what updates to install. You can't do anything at all about digital games like the last release of SA.
>>332657427
>why can't I play certain Xbox games on my Xbox 360
>why can't I play certain ps2 games on my backwards ps3
Yea sure thing dumb fuck.
>>332656982
Dumb Fraserposter
>>332656970
PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT
>>332657018
>steam makes it a huge point that if you paid for it, you'll be able to play it.
>Arkham Knight
>>332657653
360 was like that from Day 1 though. Not sure what you're talking about with the PS3.
>>332657427
can you show me the way to get the songs back on the 360 version of san andreas pls anon
>>332657653
Are you just pretending to be retarded? What has backwards compatibility got to do with this? You dumb shit hahaha!!!!
>>332657018
>steam makes it a huge point that if you paid for it, you'll be able to play it.
Ubisoft and EA have withdrawn games from Steam before. People paid for them, and couldn't play them.
>>332657762
>>332657787
>(you)
>>332657774
The 360 release never had them to start with, your argument is pointless.
>>332657804
>Ubisoft and EA have withdrawn games from Steam before. People paid for them, and couldn't play them.
Nope, you can still download them, I have games in my library removed from sale that still work. Please show otherwise shitposter
>>332657867
I don't understand.
>>332657885
can you show me the way to get the songs back on the 360 version of san andreas pls anon
>>332657950
He has literally no argument, so to make himself feel better be is calling you bait. Ignore him.
>>332657895
Batman™: Arkham Knight was unplayable for months.
>>332657989
Reported for double posting. Enjoy the pokey faggot :')
>>332657989
You cant get back what was never there. Stop pretending to be retarded and accept that you are wrong.
You made a mistake starting this argument you cant win, and you made a mistake when you picked your gaming platform. Grow up and live with it.
>>332658000
>No argument
>"you can't remove playback"
>certain titles can be added with software updates to work on disk
>thinks it can't be taken away
>place code for registered disk number
>prevent from launching disk
>>332657804
The same happened to that Deadpool game and i think 007 legends. You can't buy them, but you can play them just fine if you bought them.
>>332658000
>Ps2/ps3/ps4/xbox360/xboxone
>has rating block for disks and games
And you think it can't be taken away completely?
>>332655850
Did he say anything about pirating them, you fucking mong?
>>332658231
http://timekillerz.eu/removed/games.php
Its a long list, not just those two.
>>332658034
How is that in any way the same thing, the game was removed from sale not from download and everyone was entitled to a refund, are you just shitposting for replies?
>>332658193
>>certain titles can be added with software updates to work on disk
Explain.
>>332658345
You have disgraced our family, son.
Shame, I actually kind of liked this game but never really got a chance to play much multiplayer.
>>332658373
Is English your first language?
>>332658430
Xbox 360 had titles being added to its backwards compatibility list with firmware updates.
Games that wouldn't work on release when you put the disk in(they wouldn't launch), would work after the patches.
Games have a licensing codes built into them, block the code, block the launch. It's fucking simple.
>>332658480
>he doesn't buy vinyls or discs with badass art and sweet booklets
What are you, a fucking faggot?
>>332658034
It was still in my library.
>>332655015
>regularly
nope, it's just SA players that go fucked over.
For Vice City it only affected game purchaised after licences expired, they are considered different product, than full version. No idea, why they downgraded already sold copies when it came to SA.
>>332654628
>80 year old tank
please let that tank be some shitty 3rd world country tank and not some us slav, brit or german tank
>mafia II is still missing in action
>mafia III is right around the corner
>>332658806
Probably because they didn't pull the SA version like they did the VC one.
Also because they know we will just patch it in ourselves and saves them the PR trouble with the studios.
>>332658429
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/30/steam-removes-game-order-of-war-challenge-from-user-libraries/#3d96a08f32e7
Ha ha! I got you! Game removed from users libraries. Steam is shit, consoles win again!
>>332658626
But can they do that if the game worked by default?
>>332659025
kek
>>332659067
It's not different then setting parental controls. Games (especially now) all release with what rating they are as a code instead of just an image. You can block movies/games based on their age rating from launching on a certain account.
It would be no different blocking a license from launching on the entire system with an update.
>>332656930
You know what's good for you
You little shit.
>>332654805
http://www.destructoid.com/irem-removing-pretty-much-all-of-its-content-from-psn-206834.phtml
>I'm retarded please rape my face
>>332659168
That would essentially be hacking the console though, right? The console doesn't update itself, it needs permission to do so.
>>332655850
>buying music
>>332658937
Rockstar had no legal obligation to remove songs from copies already sold. That's why in case of Vice City only new purchases were stripped off songs.
That's also why you can redownload games from Steam, even after their licences expire, and are no longer avaliable in steam shop.
>>332658430
Consoles have the ability to block discs based on age rating, serial code, invalid signature or checksum etc so they could block the game completely if they wanted to.
Consoles will not launch the game if you don't update your system to the minimum OS version for the game.
Console games (increasigly) have online check DRM for first launch/launches.
Consoles auto update games.
If a developer wanted to they could block anything they wanted.
Short of having a disc version of a game that doesn't need an OS update, and running the console in completely offline state each time you launch it you will have to update the game. This is all while you have the option of buying on disc which will likely not be around next gen.
Perfect example is LBP for PS3, if you wanted the removed song in the first patch to stay you would have to buy the disc version and play it offline forever and turn off auto patching in PS3 settings. With the digital download version you NEVER have any option and will always be given the most recent version at the time.
Hence why having the option to mod/patch back an older version on PC is a good thing
>>332659373
Support the artist, anon!
>>332654628
>playing games with licensed content
>not just pirating yourself a copy to keep it in case it gets removed
LMAO
>>332659347
>hacking the console
Actually no, you don't own the software the console is run on, and you don't own the software the game itself is, you own some pieces of plastic and light metals.
Read your ToA with the console. Tampering with files to let your console play the game again, or modifying the codes in the game actually goes against the ToA. They also state the company reserves the right to make the game stop working at any time they want.
Been like that since at least 6th gen. It's just no one bothers to read the ToA that pops up when you first launch the system, or the manuals that come with your games.
>>332655481
I have RUSE on console, and it's pretty good.
>>332659025
Nice goalpost moving, but if you read the shit you'd posted you'd see that they only disabled the multiplayer because the servers were taken down, i.e. exactly the same as the hundreds of console games that have their servers taken down.
>>332659347
They can push updates whenever they want to your console, you don't own the OS or the games.
If you mod your game and/or console they can ban AND brick your console entirely legally.
>>332659643
You paid money to put a game in your library, and it was removed from your library.
You paid to be able to access it, and you no longer could access it.
It is a game Valve removed from your library.
>b-b-but the singleplayer
The multiplayer was removed. You paid for it, it was in your library, and it isnt anymore.
Valve removed your license to play, despite you paying for the privilege.
>>332659346
>from psn
Hurr durr you dumb faggot. What part of "physical media" don't you understand?
>>332659768
Read your ToA, the developer has the right to make any software stop working at any given time.
Few actually do it though, but it is legal. Funny enough, world wide too.
>>332656982
>all the valuable water and food he's consumed over his pathetic life will never be returned
>>332659434
Then just don't do the title update? Its not rocket science anon
>>332659768
http://www.ea.com/1/service-updates
Look at all those console games that got their online taken down too you fucking retard
>>332659643
don't remind me. I put *easily* 1k hours in OFP:Elite on XBOX, then puff, no XBL for it.
I ended up just buying PC version, but damn,Then gamespy diedGod bless direct conection to IP, and private servers
>>332659979
But EA cant send someone to take my boxed copy.
>>332654628
Just pirate it if you can't play it anymore problem solved.
>>332659995
Try gameranger (i think it's called that) too anon, loads of old games with small active communities with servers. I look at my old console games and it's depressing to see that once the online is removed it's dead, at least with PC there are workarounds to play games 20 years later even if the entire server structure was removed
>>332659934
>don't do the updates
>can't play anymore games
There are games on ps2/ps3/ps4/psp/psvita/360/xbone that have the update on the disk for newer titles. This update can be a full system update and will prevent your game from launching.
So essentially you have to own 2 or more consoles depending on the patch to play the games you want.
>>332656781
>>332657060
>>332656575
>>332660149
but your boxed copy doesn't work anymore, so not like you have a point.
>>332660246
No there isn't. There are no system updates that block any game. And I was referring to title updates, which you do not need to play the games.
>>332654628
This game is singleplayer right?
I was looking to buy it last month because I am terrible bored. Couldn't find it anywhere.
Can we say this whole thing has been... a RUSE?
>>332660360
>There are none
This isn't about if there are, or are not. It's about that it is possible. And all companies are in legal right to do if it they please.
>>332660330
>removing the multiplayer stops the single player working
Wew lad
>>332659934
Assuming you have a disc and don't mind never being able to play online then you have two options, play the disc version totally unpatched (which isn't always possible), or play the latest version. So if patch 1,2,3 add something good and fix gamebreaking bugs, and I buy the game when shitty evil patch 4 comes out or my game autoupdates (which you can't turn off with this gen) to it, I can either a) go back to the totally unpatched game or b) take shitty patch 4
>>332660508
>battlefield 2
>singleplayer
>>332660452
No, it isn't possible. Show me the schematic which shows this.
>>332660149
Your useless disk is as useless as the files that remain on my HDD if I had owned that game then?
>>332660550
>cherry picking one game from the entire list, which can actually still be played via private servers and ip forwarding
Super kek
>>332660590
>Show me the schematic which shows this.
http://doc.dl.playstation.net/doc/ps4-eula/ps4_eula_en.html
>>332660330
>>332660610
I can play the singleplayer component.
And even if there isnt one, I can still install the game I bought, it working or not. I am not being robbed of something I paid for.
>>332660538
Yes true, but very few games aside from Bethesda ones are horrific out of the box. And as an aside games shouldn't fucking come out needing patches, it was pc that started all this patch bullshit
>>332660721
Did you even read the article you are using to shitpost, the singleplayer is still there.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/34600/
Not to mention I still would have the multiplayer files from the download in
>>332660590
>games require licenses to work
>system reads the license to make sure its a legal copy
>launches game
>version 2.0 of firmware hits console
>game license is expired/company doesn't want the game operating anymore, so on and so on
>game no longer launches
Also PsP had system firmware updates install on the disks, Since a lot of users did not have wifi access. These updates would patch the operating system to improve some games.
You could prevent games launching by their license code.
Why do you think you can't just make a copy of an ISO and get the game to launch, The license code is separate.
I get that you think it isn't possible, but it very much is, and is as simple as flipping on parental controls.
>>332660870
>Not to mention I still would have the multiplayer files from the download in
Only if you had it installed on the day it was removed. If it wasnt installed, you couldnt download it anymore. It is removed from the library.
>>332654628
>Basically there is a big risk that a game you may have paid money for will be taken away from you because of some 80 year old tank's licensing rights.
Did you even read your own link?
>"This does not, in anyway, affect players who already have the game in their library.”
I have several games like NWN2 Platinum Edition that haven't been sold on Steam for years due to licenses expiring, but I can still download them just fine.
>>332660703
>ctrl+f "block"
>0 results found
I have at least 10 games that aren't sold anymore on Steam and none of them vanished, so don't freak out.
>>332660696
>private servers
>consoles
>>332659557
But being that they sold the license to that software to you, doesn't that mean you get final say on what's done to your copy? They own the source code and can do whatever they want with it, sure, but the most they can do is take away your license.
>>332659837
>physical
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/262120072674?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-117182-37290-0%252F2%253Fmtid%253D1588%2526kwid%253D1%2526crlp%253D53601919689_324272%2526itemid%253D262120072674%2526targetid%253D173528694489%2526rpc%253D0.12%2526rpc_upld_id%253D67155%2526device%253Dm%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fulk%25252Fitm%25252Flike%25252F262120072674%25253Flpid%25253D82%252526chn%25253Dps%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D9011286%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D239125209%2526adgroupid%253D14978428809%2526rlsatarget%253Dpla-173528694489%2526gclid%253DCImz8s2268sCFQhkhgod3kAPqg%2526srcrot%253D711-117182-37290-0%2526rvr_id%253D1007350283938&ul_noapp=true
Here you go, anon. :^)
>>332660791
Cool perfect world. You're going to have to disable your WiFi every time you want to play the game, then endlessly pause the auto update which you can't turn off, delete it if it ever finishes downloading (which makes you reinstall the entire game). Over and over again. And if you ever want to compromise and play with any patch while not downloading the one that removes content you can't. Any attempt at modifying it is then punishable by a bricking legally.
>>332661010
>what is x-link
>>332660974
>ctrl + f "termination"
>entire section dedicated to saying how much they can fuck you over if you don't let them fuck you in the ass
>>332660974
>This Agreement applies to any system software, firmware and Internet browser software and other application software included in your PS4 system and any patches, updates, upgrades or new versions of that system software, firmware and Internet browser software and other application software provided to or made available for your PS4 system through any SCE or Sony service or online network, PlayStation™Network, SCE website or PS4 game media. All software and firmware described in this paragraph is referred to collectively as "System Software" throughout this Agreement.
>If SCE determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SCE may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS4 system online or offline
This is why you read, and not skim.
>>332660974
IN NO EVENT ARE SCE, ITS AFFILIATES AND LICENSORS LIABLE FOR ANY LOSS OF DATA, LOSS OF PROFIT, OR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE, WHETHER DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL, HOWEVER ARISING, AS A RESULT OF ACCESSING OR USING SYSTEM SOFTWARE. SO LONG AS THIS PROVISION IS ENFORCEABLE IN YOUR JURISDICTION, THE FOREGOING LIMITATIONS, EXCLUSIONS AND DISCLAIMERS APPLY TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW EVEN IF ANY REMEDY FAILS OF ITS ESSENTIAL PURPOSE.
7. VIOLATION OF AGREEMENT; TERMINATION OF RIGHTS AND SCE REMEDIES
If SCE determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SCE may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS4 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation™Network, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS4 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.
SCE, its affiliates and licensors reserve the right to bring legal action in the event of a violation of this Agreement. SCE may participate in governmental or private legal action or investigation relating to your use of System Software.
Eat shit.
>>332661082
So basically what you're saying is, we should all bend over and take whatever they want to shove, just because pc started it off? Nice
>>332661187
Too bad the EULA is most likely non-enforceable in any court due to its nature of literally-nobody-reads-this-shit-and-literally-everybody-knows-it.
>>332661187
This applies to hackers
>>332661026
>license of the software
Actually they didn't sell you a license to the software, they sold you the ability to play the software.
You actually don't own the software, you legally own a piece of plastic disk. This is why Sony has won court cases fucking over people who modded their software.
Why do you think George Hotz can't even legally own a Sony product anymore.
>>332661396
If you block something you are a hacker. You change software that you dont own.
>>332661298
>implying i said anything of that nature
Besides, your option is deal with it or stop playing vidya on anything but pre gen 7 consoles.
>>332661093
Shit. And worthless for anything that relies on servers.
>>332661228
Jesus Christ you thick count. HOW DOES THIS DESTROY THE OHYSICAL COPY OF A DISC? Jesus Christ how retarded are school kids these days.
>>332661376
>George Hotz
>>332661446
Because he is a Frodo Baggins looking faggot
>>332661376
Literally retards don't do this.
It's equivalent to not reading the document you're fucking signing, you could be selling your ass to a bunch of chinese slavers.
>>332661446
>Actually they didn't sell you a license to the software, they sold you the ability to play the software.
That's a license.
>>332661396
This applies to ANYONE who owns a license or PS4 for ANY REASON at all. Read you dense fucking dribbling retard. They could brick your shit accidentally and it's not their fault, or they could intentionally break your console for swearing on PSN and that's completely within their legal rights, what the fuck are you gonna do, sue them?
>>332661376
is that a thing? can you just ignore terms that you've legally bound yourself to (that aren't illegal themselves, of course) because "i didn't read it lol"?
>>332661504
>can't play the game anymore
>I STILL HAVE THE DISK!
yup, you sure win this argument.
>>332661479
>system link requires servers
Kys
>>332661376
I can smell the underage off you since you clearly weren't even around for the massive PS3 court case a few years ago about this exact thing
>>332661504
Holy shit, you're one dense fuck
>>332661614
That is a license to play, not a license to the software.
Completely different. It's like a student license for Maya, sure you can make 3D shit, but you can't sell it.
>>332661681
I do, because there is no way that every single console in the entire world will be unable to play it, even if Sony flipped the switch on this theoretical "disc blocking" shit. There will be consoles not updated.
>>332661504
>they can stop me from playing the game
>they can brick my console
>BUT I STILL HAVE A PIECE OF PLASTIC I WIN THE ARGUMENT UNLESS SOMEONE FROM SONY FLIES OUT AND STEALS IT FROM ME
Think about how you sound.
>"Hahaha digicucks getting cucked Gaben COULD take all your games away these 5 games you bought for 5$ 10 years ago PROVES IT"
>"So what about Banned/bricked consoles and preventing a disc launch"
>"W-what's that got to do with anything?!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?"
You fucking faggots are delusional.
It's the same game.
You agree to the same fucking EULA.
>"B-but no one would come to my house and take my disc"
Isn't that the same argument you use on Steam?
>"THEY COULD TOTALLY PULL EVERY GAME OUT OF YOUR LIBRARY"
So they could, legally, come to your house and take your disc if you broke the Eula.
>>332661639
No. There are a handful of cases worldwide, iirc germany that basically say EULA can't override your legal consumer rights, but other than that you are totally fucked.
>>332661856
>it's impossible to get a different console and continue playing
Top meme lad
>>332661842
>spending $800 on a console
>to play 1 game
and we are back to this >>332657427
>>332661716
Not many games have LAN.
>>332661829
I didn't say anything about selling it, I'm saying that the company that sold you the license no longer has the license to your copy. You can't do shit to the software because that's in the license agreement, but the company that sold you the license can't either.
>>332657427
Umm? Yes they can. The same way they can prevent pirated copies from playing.
>>332661986
>company blocks my game, bricks my console, lose my online games, dlc, saves and levels/xp etc
>oh what will i do, i'll give them more money
Consolefags.
>>332661986
>I just got fucked in the ass so I'll go back and let them fuck me in the ass again
>>332661986
>Pay another 500$ to get a 60$ game to run
>"Feasible"
>Game I got for 5$ on sale is lost
>"LOILOLOLLOLOL DAY TOOK ALL UR MONEY"
>>332662034
>the company that sold you the license can't do anything to the license
read your ToS, you will find out how wrong you are.
They hold the right to stop online services, updates, and also the game from working at all if they please. Legally. Since you launched the game, you agreed.
>>332662146
>to the license
Pay the fuck attention, I said that earlier. The most they can do is revoke your license. As far as the copy itself, they can't do shit.
>>332661842
Well good luck on your adventure to find one. You dense cuck.
>>332655850
Patches aren't mandatory. You can simply not patch. Not everyone leaves auto patching on.
>>332662289
Then your point is moot, Congrats, you argued the fact that you get to keep your piece of unworking plastic.
>>332654628
>people who have already purchased it can still play it
>there is a big risk that a game you may have paid money for will be taken away from you
>>332654628
>Basically there is a big risk that a game you may have paid money for will be taken away from you
"This does not, in anyway, affect players who already have the game in their library." - Ubisoft in your own source
Ubisoft isn't as retarded as Rockstar.
>>332655325
>update removes Tom Petty
>update removes Dazz Band
>update removes NWA
JUST
>>332662289
>they can remove my ability to play entirely but it's ok because i still have a plastic disc so i win
Can we go back a few posts to where everybody BTFO of you for this exact same point anon?
>>332654875
>calling ruse shit
End yourself. Sure the campaign is shit, but when it comes to multiplayer it was the best RTS in that time.
>people don't read ToS
>YOU ACQUIRE NO OWNERSHIP OR PROPERTY RIGHTS IN ANY CHARACTER OR OTHER IN-GAME VIRTUAL GOOD, AND ARE ONLY LICENSED TO USE SUCH CHARACTERS AND ASSETS ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE AGREEMENTS. YOU AGREE THAT YOUR FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNT AND ANY VIRTUAL GOODS AND CHARACTERS DO NOT HAVE ANY MONETARY VALUE. SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU.
http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=5382&tag=users_en
They even put it near the top for you.
>>332662107
>this game requires yet another gpu and cpu upgrade for the Nth time this year
>better give Intel and nVidia more money
Pcfags
>>332661959
>EULA can't override your legal consumer rights
i think that's true of pretty much any agreement you sign though. when you rent a place and sign the lease, even if you sign for some ridiculous thing you didn't read, it won't hold up in court if it infringes upon your rights as a tenant.
>>332662289
yeah but we live in the age where platforms can (and some do) require you to be online at all times when using it, allowing them to have network coding to block you from a game as they wish. it doesn't matter if you have the disc or not if you can't play offline and are forced to go through a server-side validation first.
OP is a sensationalist dipshit and dishonest at that, too.
Stuff like this happens all the time. Prey got pulled from Steam for licensing reasons and so did Mafia. People who already own those games can play them just fine, however nobody can purchase them. That's all there is to it.
Anyone peddling this hysterical bullshit needs to kill himself.
>>332662519
Lad come on this is embarrassing, just leave the thread rather than lose what little dignity you have left.
>>332662519
You can always tell who doesn't know shit about computers when they act like folks need to upgrade more than once every 5 years.
>>332662519
>I have to upgrade every month
>graphics cards come out every 2 years
Can this ill informed meme please stop.
>>332662416
Nice try.
>>332662460
>>332662392
They can't make it unwork though. That would either require editing the software which they're not allowed to do without your permission, or revoking your license which requires physical enforcement. Actually revoking your license is ineffective.
>>332662638
>gets btfo
>"l-leave my ch-chan senpai!"
>>332662704
Refer to >>332662510
>>332662718
You've lost, anon. Just leave. You're seriously just embarrassing yourself.
>>332662661
So you are happy to play the latest pc games in sub 1080p at 30fps with 5 year old hardware? The same reason you belittle console owners for? Wow, sure is hypocrisy in here!
>>332662519
>can't refute the point three people made about rewarding a company that banned your account and removed all your digital purchases/online progress with hundreds more dollars
>just change the topic and shitpost instead
Keep digging yourself into that hole
>>332661856
The difference is, that doesn't happen to consoles, and it happens time and time again on PC.
>>332662850
>"I s-said leave! Stop owning me!"
>licensing rights over certain military items within the game
Why the fuck do you need a license for WW2 equipment?
They don't even use brand names like Jeep. They just call it a Willys.
>>332662851
>goal posts
>>332662556
Online DRM is arguably the only legal way to do it. In that case, they're editing their own software and not yours.
>>332662791
License, you illiterate faggot.
>>332662718
This is tragic, pls reply to the posts destroying your argument back there anon
>>332662974
>gets btfo, used goalpost fake
>>332662851
>Consoles
>1080p
Yeah those 10 games that can run it at 30 FPS sure are the same as every game insured to have it if you aren't poor, retard.
I don't max shit out but 1080p 60fps is fine if you aren't some retard that needs to spend thousands at the drop of a frame per second.
Get outta my face.
>>332662978
>I have the plastic disk
>I win
You aren't shit posting, you are literally this retarded.
>>332661639
In the EU, yes, because you cant sign away your basic consumer rights.
In the States, who fucking knows.
Anywhere else, who fucking cares.
>>332654628
Copyright length is fucking retarded. Seriously, a tank from 80 years ago? All the designers are long dead, who is benefiting here?
>>332663042
>insured
>>332662952
>Owning
Lol are you 12? You're not "owning" me you're simply making a fool out of yourself. I can walk away from a sperging 12 year old because I'm an adult and not autistic.
>>332663074
Name one time a console has banned someone from playing a physical version of the game.
Not online, but the game itself.
>>332663074
Don't bother anon, he's been running in circles with his retarded argument over and over, he is a dribbling retard at best
>>332663074
No one is allowed to edit the plastic disk or the plastic box that runs it.
>>332663235
Go on then, walk away. After all you are the big man right? Its not because I completely rekt you and you will be admitting it by walking away :)
> a game you may have paid money for will be taken away from you
no
>>332663331
Epic meme
I still win
>>332663385
>:)
Man please reply to the posts BTFO of you up there. You're just ignoring it and passively aggressively posting emoticons because you're buttmad and it's getting really pathetic.
>>332663075
>In EU
>PLEASE READ CAREFULLY: YOU DO NOT OWN YOUR ACCOUNT OR CHARACTER, OR HAVE ANY PROPERTY RIGHTS TO YOUR CHARACTER OR ITS VIRTUAL ASSETS OR DATA, ALL OF WHICH YOU AGREE ARE MONETARILY WITHOUT VALUE. YOU MAY NOT SELL, RENT, OR REPRODUCE ANY CHARACTER OR ANY VIRTUAL ASSETS ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH CHARACTER OR WITH ANY ACCOUNT CONTROLLED BY YOU FOR ANY COMMERCIAL PURPOSE. IF YOU DO SO, THIS LICENSE IS IMMEDIATELY TERMINATED.
> Right to Change or Terminate the Service. The Service is provided by SQUARE ENIX for so long as SQUARE ENIX wishes to operate the Service in its sole discretion. The Service may be modified, suspended, restricted, or terminated, or otherwise discontinued by SQUARE ENIX without liability to you.
http://support.eu.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=5383&la=2&tag=software
Why do you people not read your ToS?
>>332663464
Maybe actually read before you post. It's not being taken away from you, it's just not being sold anymore.
>>332663497
Nah
>>332663242
George Hotz
>>332663497
Damn, if you had a reaction image I could have won.
I shall bow out gracefully and let the consolecucks revel in buying 3 more consoles if they get bricked because Sony/Msoft can do NO wrong.It's okay when Nintendo does it though
>>332663569
OP:
>Basically there is a big risk that a game you may have paid money for will be taken away from you because of some 80 year old tank's licensing rights.
This is wrong.
>>332663702
So you took the bait instead. Are you proud?
>>332663658
>implying he doesn't secretly play them
>>332663803
More proud than someone pretending to be retarded.
>>332663534
>MMO
nice try. Now try make a real argument
>>332663658
PC KEKS BEAT US
AGAIN
>>332663075
you can't sign away your rights in the us when you get a job, buy/rent a house, sign up for a service, etc... if you agree to a job that pays below minimum wage it's still not legal for the employer to pay you that.
>>332663658
But that a court case involving modifying the firmware of a device, and he was just 'banned' from doing it again.
Next.
>>332663940
>secretly play them
>can't even legally purchase the products
>using drm
>ever
lol that's why you pirate games that won't release DRM free versions.
>>332664001
>friend buys a game for him
>gives it to him
Herp de derp
>>332663949
>MMO
Physical copies, on consoles at that.
>>332663991
>banned from doing it again
He is actually banned from owning any Sony product.
Meaning he can't play any Sony exclusive games.
>>332663946
How can one be more proud than oneself?
>>332664061
Also, you pirate DRM-free games since they're obviously okay with you pirating the game. Otherwise they would have put DRM in there. :)
>>332664078
>friend risking life in prison
good friend.
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